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Neet2005
(Anita P.)
61F
2029 posts
7/8/2006 3:04 am

Last Read:
7/26/2006 11:15 am

The Fatherhood of God


The element of Jesus' teaching was that God is the Father of the fatherless and He made this the center of everything.

He showed us that God to us is more than merely a potter and His clay or a Creator and His subjects.

Since God is a Father He is vitally interested in all His 's concerns, no if, ands or buts about it.

Since God is our Father, He equally knows and loves each individual soul.
This is scriptural..., Matt. 10:30; John 3:16; Luke 15:10; and Luke 15:4-7.

As a Father, how can God not forgive?

Since God is our Father pain has a meaning to Him.

As a Father, when anything hurts us it hurts Him.

He sent His only to suffer in order to remedy the issue of the sins of mankind.

Men tend to believe that pain, suffering and trials were a sign of an angry God's condemnation, but it is only God's election of a soul for a higher purpose.

Since God is a Father, all men are brothers.

No man has a right to use Jesus' words "Our Father" in sincerity who is not prepared to treat all men everywhere as members of the same family as himself.

Jesus brought to us the conviction of the Divine Fatherhood, brought us a Royal Law of Love in which we should all be able to say of any other "that person is a of God, just like me, God is his Father."


Jesus gave us the revelation of God as Father and the hope of a unified creation once and for all.

By His teaching and His life Jesus showed that to know that God is in control of everything we can pass from bondage of fear into a liberty and release.

He reached out to the most forsaken individuals.

He brought the remedy for every sin; the coming of Christ was our Father's plan for the mending of a "broken" earth and a "shattered" family.

The teachings and life of Christ exemplified an inclusive faith to which all people are welcomed into one family with God as our Father and the glorious reality of God's unconditional love and forgiveness towards all men.


lonnienord
(Lonnie Nord)
76M
626 posts
7/8/2006 6:33 am

i have this sad sad theory: When Anita speaks many many will disagree with her and so i read this great blog wondering how anyone could disagree then i realized there will be those who are unwilling to see Hitler as their brother and so they will find a way to say that we aren't all brothers and sisters.

But we are!! Anita speaks the truth again!!

is there anyone out there big enough to forgive all their brothers and sisters?


Rebekka 77F

7/8/2006 8:12 am

Oh sister, not all are children of God.

1John 3:10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil[/]: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

Elizabeth


lonnienord
(Lonnie Nord)
76M
626 posts
7/8/2006 8:45 am

see told you. Anita speaks truth and others have to disagree.

We were all created by GOD that makes us all his creation/children. Some of us foolishly choose to follow the devil but ...

The protical son was his FATHER's son even when hanging out with evil people and GOD welcomed him back with open arms. And HE urged his older son (daughters) to join in the clebration. and HE will be so happy when you all welcome the his youngest son (whom HE died for) back into the fold.

you all remember David who committed adultry and covered it up with murder but yet was called a man after GOD's own heart


Isaiah5550 74M
1423 posts
7/8/2006 9:11 am

God grants me His grace, thus I can forgive my brothers and those who are not my brothers. To say that all are children of God is to ignore the obvious, God's Word (I John 3:10).


Neet2005
(Anita P.)
61F
3345 posts
7/8/2006 10:25 am

Lonnie, These things are only revealed by the Holy Spirit to those who have purified their hearts before God. Why do I still try to tell the world even knowing they will hate me for it?

I do remember David, and he's not the only one, I copied this from a very old post I did called - ARE YOU QUALIFED? Love to hear your thoughts on it.

Let's take a look at some of the folks that God chose to lead and carry out His work and examine thier qualifications:

Moses was a murderer. Exodus 2:12
Rahab was a prostitute. Hebrews 11:31
David was a murderer and an adulterer. 2 Samuel 11:4
Isaiah was a smut mouth. Isaiah 6:5
Paul was a murderer. John was in prison.
Jesus was poor, homeless and on death row;
and if you count the fact that He saved me,
then He's a trash picker, too.

These are just a few examples of people God chose to lead His missions. God usually picks the least likely ones. People who appear to be lost because of the hardships they faced. But, they were consistently faithful and followed God's Will all along, although to the human eye it may not have appeard so.

The world has condemned what they "do." They were the ones that were tried by fire and found faithful. They feared God, sought God, then fell in love with God. Like, "David, the son of Jesse, a man after my own heart." God spoke of him in Acts 13:2

So if you think you've done too much to be used by God, you are wrong. The Bible is full of examples of how God chose the least likely ones and raised them to success against incredible odds. This is to demonstrate His desire to use those who are faithful irregardless of how the world may judge them. He's the Ultimate Good Samaritan!

Besides, how could He demonstrate His awesome ability if He only chooses the "easy" ones!
_____________________________________________

There were lots of great comments on that post, especially 4EWE put a lot of really outstanding additions, I won't take up too much space pasting it here, but you can go check out the blog sometime if you like.

Also, I wanted to thank you for your blogs on the Psalms, I can see they touch your heart as much as they touch mine.

My favorite Psalm is Psalm 100, but I also am fond of that line David used - Even if I made my bed in hell, still there He would find me.

GBY Brother.


Neet2005
(Anita P.)
61F
3345 posts
7/8/2006 1:15 pm

That's a good point there, Isaiah. Well, let's take Cain and Abel. Abel did what was right and Cain murdered him out of hate. What did God do? He put a mark of protection on Cain; showed him compassion. Just because someone does not do what is right doesn't mean they cannot eventually be redeemed. We each have sinned until the light of life has shone on us, each and every one, so from that standpoint both you and I were at one time a "child of the devil." I was redeemed and grafted into the family of God, by the spirit of adoption.
Was that not the very thing for which Christ died?
Let's also take the example of Christ, He loved every single person in God's creation. I choose to be like that. Hey, good to see you, always a pleasure, thanks for stopping by.


lonnienord
(Lonnie Nord)
76M
626 posts
7/8/2006 2:29 pm

jjireh i am praying for you!!


lonnienord
(Lonnie Nord)
76M
626 posts
7/8/2006 2:32 pm

Anita said: "My favorite Psalm is Psalm 100, but I also am fond of that line David used - Even if I made my bed in hell, still there He would find me."

i also love the 100th psalm. Where did David say: "if i made my bed in hell, still there HE would find me? is that in Ps. 139?


Robyn2006 55F

7/8/2006 4:39 pm

Neet, I understand that you are a loving person with different thoughts and opinions than the bulk of us here. I honestly feel you are in error and agree with my brothers and sisters that have spoken with you here. I would be remiss if I were not honest with you in that fact.

May I ask you a very direct question and ask you as a quality woman for a very direct and honest answer please?

Are you a Mormon or follower of the LDS faith?

You have a grasp on the words of the bible but you do not apply them in the fashion of a normal believer. It makes me wonder what sort of religious background you come from and/or are presently attached to. I would really appreciate some feed back as to your religious background as it will allow me to understand you better. With understanding all this distention will pass away. I am not looking to judge you, its not my place or desire...it is my desire to understand you so I can relate to you better.

I know you are an upstanding woman and therefore have no thought in my mind that you will not answer me in a honest and forthright manner.

Roberta


Neet2005
(Anita P.)
61F
3345 posts
7/8/2006 9:37 pm

Robyn, I will answer you in an honest and forthright manner. I do not subscribe to any "religion," I did not find God by going to a church*..., I found Him in the bottom of my closet, broken on my knees.
If you would really like a more clear picture of my testimony, here is a link to my testimony blog...,
My Testimony
God Bless You.

(*His Word said we shall be called children of the Living God)


Neet2005
(Anita P.)
61F
3345 posts
7/8/2006 9:42 pm

Here it is Lonnie, Psalm 139:8 What a powerful Psalm!


Neet2005
(Anita P.)
61F
3345 posts
7/8/2006 10:20 pm

Brother Rick, so good to see you.

There is no power above or beside God, the darkness is not dark to Him and the night is as bright as the day.

The revelation by the Holy Spirit of God's omnipotent power IS a result of purifying our hearts before God, shall I go do a scriptural research for you? - though I am not surprised you think it's a lie, you call evil good, and good evil; put darkness for light, and light for darkness; put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter.

You Say:

God’s solution is to regenerate and renew our heart, mind, soul and spirit. Philosophical justification won’t do it. “Fig leaves is to Adam and vegetables is to Cain” all over again...men trying to justify their GOOD works and present them to God as if though it is good enough? It won't do for God.

Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

1 Corinthians 6: 9 You know not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

11 And such WERE some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

I WAS, WE WERE ONCE of those….LOST!

BUT NOW I AM FOUND
WAS BLIND, BUT NOW I SEE!!

AMAZING GRACE…
HOW SWEET THE SOUND!!

I absolutely totally agree with you on all that, 100% Great and Powerful words, couldn't have said it better myself.
Please listen to your own council and also seek out the meaning of these scriptures...,

1Sa 15:22 Hath the LORD as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of the LORD? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to hearken than the fat of rams.

Jhn 13:34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

Jhn 15:12 This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.

Jhn 15:17 These things I command you, that ye love one another.

Rom 13:8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.

1Th 4:9 But as touching brotherly love ye need not that I write unto you: for ye yourselves are taught of God to love one another.

1Pe 1:22 Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently:

1Jo 3:11 For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another.

1Jo 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.

1Jo 4: 7 Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.

1Jo 4:11 Beloved, if God so loved us, we ought also to love one another.

1Jo 4:12 No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.

2Jo 1:5 And now I beseech thee, lady, not as though I wrote a new commandment unto thee, but that which we had from the beginning, that we love one another.

You say:
"this WORD...love are insisted as the basis for everyone to-get-along, which is NOT founded on the God KIND of LOVE" - Really, you're kidding me right? You actually believe this? Mmmm, Mmmmm, Mmmmm.

Be blessed Brother Rick,


TheTropical_Guy
(Dennis )
68M

7/9/2006 5:11 am

Robyn by Christain standards she is not a Christianat all . She is a Universalist. It is her choice to believe this. Ok I can respect that but she needs to understand there is a whole bible to read. If she is going to pronounce it then be ready to defend it. The problem is she can not.

Universalism is a new age belief. It is born the same way as a Mormon or jehovah Witness group. Both started out of an "Angel of Light appearing and speaking. This Angel of light of course is a demonic being portraying itself as Godly. The word says that satan can appear as an Angel of Light. Its pretty clear to Christians that this is amiss. Greatly amiss.

Go to any Christian apologetic site and look up Universalism.


Robyn2006 55F

7/9/2006 6:00 am

    Quoting Neet2005:
    Robyn, I will answer you in an honest and forthright manner. I do not subscribe to any "religion," I did not find God by going to a church*..., I found Him in the bottom of my closet, broken on my knees.
    If you would really like a more clear picture of my testimony, here is a link to my testimony blog...,
    My Testimony
    God Bless You.

    (*His Word said we shall be called children of the Living God)
Neet,

Thank you very much for the reply. I appreciate it. I will indeed follow that link and read what you have to say. Your answer sparked another question in me however. You put religion in quotes and I understand your intent; but often when someone does that they are saying they don't use the term I used for what they follow. Thus I am led to wonder if I simply used poor terminology in my original question.

To better clarify then what faith practice do you follow and/or model your belief structure after? Is it the faith of the LDS church which teaches so much love and teaches that there is no lasting hell ....but three levels of heaven the lowest being the closest approximation to hell and that people whose transgressions have left them there can repent and move up from one to the next until they can reach the highest level of heaven with HIM?


lonnienord
(Lonnie Nord)
76M
626 posts
7/9/2006 9:11 am

Anita, i totally love you my dear sister in CHRIST!! you have shown me some interesting things about our Awesome GOD!!

Where do you find your texts?
is there a list somewhere?

have you read the whole Bible?
How do you study the Bible?
What are you reading / studying now?


Neet2005
(Anita P.)
61F
3345 posts
7/9/2006 2:19 pm

Robyn, I do not follow religion, because to me the term religion carries with it the traditions of man, rituals, seperation based on faith, the Pharisees were religious. The Bible says we shall be called children of the Living God, not catholic, pentecostal, mormon, &tc. As I said before, I did not find God by fulfilling the standards of a church, He found me crying out to Him day and night and seeking His word, begging Him to show me what it all means because this life is only temporary, and if I only got one thing right in this life, having a place with God in eternity was that one thing. You seem to know more about religions than I do, but I can tell you one thing. Jesus said when we touch someone in His name we're touching Him, He said that when we feed someone in His name we are feeding Him, Jesus said when we love someone in His name we're loving Him. I would much rather sit in grubby clothes on the corner and feed a hungry homeless person and pray with and for them than to wear the finest clothes and attend the most beautiful church with the most prestigious people in the world. Jesus went out to those the church rejected as unworthy and so my place is with them.
Levels of hell? dunno anything about that, m'am. I was the scum at the bottom of the septic tank beneath the bowels of hell and God came and rescued me. So, nothing is beyond Him, or too difficult and even hell cannot seperate us from His great and mighty power. Seein's how I was the one at the very bottom of hell, then I suppose I am the most appropriate witness to just how infinate His love truly is.


Neet2005
(Anita P.)
61F
3345 posts
7/9/2006 3:12 pm

Well, Lonnie, to be honest, I read the Bible over and over again since I was old enough to read. I never wanted to live in a world without love, couldn't understand how people could be so cruel and if I could have some assurance of my place with God I was going to find a way to exit this place asap. The first hundred times I read it, it just didn't make sense, all I saw was condemnation. I prayed God to show me what it all meant. Finally, I could take this life no more. I just couldn't be good enough to fulfill the image of a godly person, so I locked myself in a closet with my Bible and refused to come out until I had an answer or just lay down and die.
I read the Bible day and night, over and over, and was convicted by the scriptures on forgiveness. If I cannot forgive others, God cannot forgive me. My unforgiveness only seperated me from God. So, I began to just lay it all out, all the pain and hurt, all the shame and guilt, all the blame and disobedience. Once it was all gone I felt clean, I prayed for God to forgive others the same way that He required me to. He came to me and told me I had my place with Him. Then I opened my Bible and the words suddenly came alive, spoke directly to me, it was completely as if I was able to see for the first time.
Since that time I have been doing research concerning the sign of Jonah. God gave me the revelation, but as men will condemn me when I share it, I have been backing it up with every evidence possible (the truth doesn't need to be defended, but I want to present a solid case) The resources I use are numerous.
The Interpreters Bible Collection is an encyclopedic set that offers multiple commentaries, cross references, in depth analysis and is a wonderful resource, though, I do not rely on resources for my faith, I pray the guidance of the Holy Spirit to interpret what is right in the sight of God.
Other resources I use are: Nelson's Collection Concordance, Bible Dictionary, Commentary and Handbook;The Synopsis of the Bible Encyclopedic Collection; The Life and Teaching of Jesus Christ; Basic Christian Beliefs; The Complete Sayings of Jesus; The Made Easy Series which includes Prophecy, Teachings, Bible, Bible Study and Prayer; A number of Books which each do an depth analysis of New Testament Books; The Jew of Tarsus; Christ in Every Book of the Bible; The Bible for The Biblically Inept; 6,000 Years of the Bible; The Five Books of Moses; Meredith's Book of Bible Lists; Where to Find it in the Bible; gosh, the list is endless.
I do enjoy so much John Bunyan's books.
Also, I like to use internet resources such as the Blue Letter Bible, Deuterocanonical Books, Cross Search, Early Christian Writings, the HyperConcordance, Living Web, &ct.
How I study the Bible, I pray and ask God to reveal His word to me, If there is a particular subject I am researching I will pull out my concordance and find every place it occurs, then I will open up my Encyclopedic Editions and do extensive research comparing and contrasting scripture and considering commentaries and additional resources, but only accepting what the Holy Spirit says is real. Needless to say, I have a storage room full of boxes of research on every subject from sin to death to whatever topic you can imagine from years of doing this. I lost my storage unit when I moved to England 9 months ago, but that is okay. The years of study is etched in my heart.
What am I reading/studying now? I am actually reading a book about 100 years old called The Story of the Light That Never Went Out, it is a book about England's break from Popish influence and the individual stories of centuries of martyrs and their persecution by the church. It is inspiring me to be strong for what is to come in relation to the revelation I spoke of earlier.
I am also doing extensive research on the prophets, their faith and the message they were called to deliver along with the history of the split of the Jewish nation and their falling away to the worship of false Gods.
Other than that I am trying to get focused on the piles of research to complete the book I have been writing and spend some time in the Bible each day and what I study on any given day is a matter of what is relevant at the time.
Paul is my favorite New Testament Author, Isaiah is my favorite Old Testament Author but I also am deeply moved by David's Psalms and the Wisdom of Solomon.
My favorite Scripture of all time is The Wisdom of Solomon 5: 1-2 in the Apocrypha.

I grew up being told how stupid I was and I really did believe everyone else was saved but me, so I had to hurry up and catch up with the rest of the world. Reading and praying alone with God was the only time I was ever safe and at peace, so that has always been my favorite things to do.

Thanks for asking.

Please, tell me more about you, I do so enjoy your spirit, and your Psalms blogs make me want to hoot and holler. Who is Lonnie? Where has he come from? God must have given you an incredible testimony. I would be very honored to know more about you.


Neet2005
(Anita P.)
61F
3345 posts
7/26/2006 11:15 am

Mal 2:10 Have we not all one father? hath not one God created us? why do we deal treacherously every man against his brother, by profaning the covenant of our fathers?