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RockyG666 63M
1747 posts
6/22/2014 1:14 pm

Last Read:
6/30/2014 5:47 am

a rebuttal to a butthead

According to the Bible, sex is to be reserved for marriage. Period.
So, yes, oral sex is a sin if done before or outside of marriage.



according to the bible?

i don't know that it is accurate to say that. we can say things like "proverbs tell us, or paul says, or the commandments warn against.." but general sweeping statements like "according to the bible" really do NOT apply to anything but the most general sweeping statements. we could say "according to the bible, god loves us" pretty safely. but imagining other sweeping biblical directives which are only briefly mentioned is only self dellusion.

secondly, the bible NEVER clearly says that sex is to be reserved for marriage. (Period). it is NOT a commandment. it IS suggested in the epistles, and it IS godly, but there are NO hard and fast commandments against oral sex, or even against non-marital sex if neither person is married.

there ARE a few dozen commandments about sex. very clear.

no adultery. no homo. no father's lover. no brother sister. etc. NO non-married is NOT one of them. why would god not mention that?

it is really masterful the way you tie all of your incorrect nonsense up at the end as if it somehow proves your ridiculous claim.

the sky is blue so everything in the sky must be blue.

if 4 + 4 = 6, then 6 + 6 = 8.

this is more than just being stupid. you are telling LIES about god. don't be doing that.

butthead. dipwad.

i did not reply to your post on your blog. you have decided not to print my comments once too often. in retaliation, your comments are NOT welcom here. dipwad.




RockyG666 63M
1357 posts
6/22/2014 8:21 pm

the word fornication only appears in the nt in greek: porneia.

4202 porneía (the root of the English terms "pornography, pornographic"; cf. 4205 /pórnos) which is derived from pernaō, "to sell off") – properly, a selling off (surrendering) of sexual purity; promiscuity of any (every) type.

that seems a bit beyond simply just unmarried sex. if 2 people are in love and committed and faithful, that is NOT pornia.

the word doesn't really show up in the OT in hebrew, even though people stretch other words. one hebe word that gets translated most as fornication, is zenunim (Genesis 38:24 , Kings2, ezekial, hosea).

but that word really means whoredom, from zanah; adultery; figuratively, idolatry -- whoredom. not 2 people committed to each other at all.


RockyG666 63M
1357 posts
6/23/2014 12:55 pm

good point. i have always wondered who adam and eve's children must have coupled with? or if the flood story is taken literal, who did noah's family multiply with?

there is a commandment that says if a man boinks an unmarried virgin, and knocks her up, he has to ask her father to marry her. this means:

A) it is ok to oink an unmarried virgin
b) if you don't get her preggo, you don't gotta marry her
3) if you get her preggo and her father says no, you don't gotta marry her.


RockyG666 63M
1357 posts
6/24/2014 9:02 am

back in paul's day, romans were into orgies, gay sex, and EVERY kind of sexual depravity you can imagine. they probably made our porno industry look mild. THAT is what the strive for purity in the NT is fighting against.

NOT two people that love each other and have sex in a committed relationship, but don't have a little piece of legal paper that says they are married. THAT is not a sin.


RockyG666 63M
1357 posts
6/24/2014 3:28 pm

igot rambles on and on and lays it thicker than even i do.

but he is right


RockyG666 63M
1357 posts
6/26/2014 11:06 am

igor.

you can't dismiss paul. his ertitings offer mega insight and he unpacks what it means to follow christ. but paul was an administrator and a preacher. the epistles must be understood in context

paul was not speaking to everyone in all of time, or adding or modifying the commandments. paul was not a prophet and says so himself. paul never met christ other than in a vision.

the epistles were letters that paul wrote to specific churches, addressing specific issues of that church. there is much to be learned by his understandings of the theology of the church of christ. but they are not the rules. they are just one man's very godly attempt at establishing some good church goals and guidelines.

paul doesn't contradict christ in any case though. paul is like tatoo on fantasy island. the christ boss, the christ! i think you are confusing paul with the roman catholic church that came to worship everything he said and turn it into legalistic chains.


RockyG666 63M
1357 posts
6/28/2014 6:33 am

no, the entire purpose of jesus is to forgive the sins of man.

that is THE single act.

paul just tries to explain that and what it means to follow christ.


RockyG666 63M
1357 posts
6/29/2014 9:51 am

i pray that ALL sin and sinners are forgiven through christ.

that is not what i learned, or what i neccesarily believe, it is just something i pray for. my kids won't look to christ. to even bring it up is a battle.

but...when i think about it...

is the blood of god NOT strong enough to forgive ALL?

like christ is only all powerful enuff to forgive these certain people if they behave in these certain manners? we can't be having EVERYBODY in heaven now can we?

that sounds more roman catholic than biblical to me.


RockyG666 63M
1357 posts
6/29/2014 5:04 pm

again. my previous comment was censored by the big chuch facist pigs who are too busy worrying about a joke than maintaining this website in any kind of professional manner.