For Claudia
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Posted:Aug 17, 2009 3:49 pm
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Quoting you:
"well anyway, I know Im stupid for even doing this because some of the IDIOTS out there at BC will probably use it against me somehow. But I just dont care today, I need to do some writing, because Im just feeling so sad."
The truth is this :
Although I strongly disagree with your doctrine, I would never use a personal bad experiance against you to further my own agenda.
I read your post and thought that is a very big thing for someone to have to deal with.
I've have some friends, brothers that experianced much the same thing . Grown men with families of their own.
And it was absolutely devastating for them.
I've had a similar sort of experiance personally but just not to the extreme that you have.
The truth is Claudia, is that it gets pretty heated in here at times.
And the truth is that I don't hate you.
In fact, your story touched my heart and I will pray that it all gets worked out and that you find peace about it all and some answers.
And Claudia, Happy Birthday.
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Forgetting who we are and what we came from.
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Posted:Aug 7, 2009 12:04 pm
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The problem today with much of the church world today,is that once we become saved we tend to forget that we are saved by and ONLY by the death , burial , and resurrection of Jesus Christ and trusting and believing what He accomplished on that cross FOR us by His precious blood and sacrifice, and resurection from the grave.
And we tend to forget that God has concluded ALL guilty under sin , ALL . NO EXCEPTIONS .
Ga:3:22: But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.
1Co:6:9: Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
1Co:6:10: Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
PRETTY WELL COVERS IT ALL DOES IT NOT ?
1Co:6:11: And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
Do you not know that there is not ONE thing in any man or woman that is redeemable in the eyes of a righteous God ?
Why is it that you judge or condemn the sinner ? Is he/she not condemned already by the law of God ? Is his or her sin less grevious in Gods eyes than yours was , or is ?
Or have you forgotten the bonds of slavery to sin that were yours before you were delivered from them by our Lords precious blood ?
( I speak to those here that have been saved by grace through faith and not to those who preach and trust a works or performance based salvation )
Oh , why is it that so many of us upon getting saved , forget and assume such an air of religiousness and self righteousness ?
( maybe because of the influence of those who are trusting a works based salvation. Maybe some of their heretical teachings rubbed off on you )
Why is it that we after being saved , now wish to come under and put others under the law for justification when that law is what condemned us in the first place?
( maybe you have joined a church where those who attend are generational christians who are trusting that my daddy and momma did it this way and their daddy and momma before them did it this way and have never come to personally see themselves as lost and see their way of doing things making them more righteous THAN THOSE SINNERS OVER THERE.)
Don't you know that the law is to declare ALL men guilty and include ALL under sin so that ALL men will know that in His presence NO FLESH SHALL BE JUSTIFIED ?
Do you not know that it was put there to show men their NEED for a saviour ?
Ro:3:20: Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
Ga:3:24: Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
Ga:3:25: But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
Ga:3:3: Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?
Why is it we forget that WHILE WE WERE YET sinners Christ died for us and paid the price for our sins ?
Ro:5:8: But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
And why is it that after we get saved we somehow come to think of the righteous lives we now have the LIBERTY to live , is somehow of ourselves ?
Why do we adopt the attitude that righteousness is by OUR works ?
Do you not know that the ONLY righteousness that we possess is the righteousness that belongs to Jesus Christ and is given freely TO you ?
Have you forgotten that YOUR sins were the reason that He had to pay that price on the cross to satisfy Gods justice and judgement ?
You know , Ive actually have heard people preach or teach that the homosexual or the drunk or the adulterer or the , put in the choice of your sin here ________1Co:6:9 and 10_________ must first turn away from their sin and THEN God can save them . This is the most self righteous thing I've ever heard from one who is SUPPOSEDLY saved from his/her sins by the precious blood of Jesus Christ .
WHAT ?
HOW LUDICROUS !
Do you not know that men are SLAVES to sin ? That they have NO power in and of themselves to overcome it ?
Do you not know that is why our Lord had to pay the price on that cross ?
Because they/we are NOT ABLE to ?
The problem today is that men are not willing to acknowledge their sin and want to rather justify it and say its not a sin but a lifestyle choice or a sickness or an orientation, ect.
What men need to do today is change their way of thinking . They need to change their minds and see themselves as the word of God says they are .
LOST .
2Co:4:3: But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
2Co:4:4: In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
1Co:1:18: For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
Yes , homosexuality,drunkedness,theft,etc. IS sin . Why do we constantly debate it ? Because the world INSISTS that its NOT sin ?
Why should that influence us in the body of Christ in the least ?
How in the world do you expect the world to see that sin is sin based on what Gods word says it is and not by mans opinion of what it is ?
If we are not sure about and believe what God clearly states , how is it that we think they should ?
You know, we treat the homosexual as though he has a sin that is less redeemable or more grevious than any other sin.
Ro:3:23: For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
The word of God says that homosexuality is the RESULT of a people that have turned their back on God and dont want to retain thoughts of Him in their minds.
Why is it the we always see postings along the lines of ; Is homosexuality wrong ?
The sin is a people that have put God out of their minds and have seared their consciences with an hot iron.
This is the RESULT. God has turned them over to their perversions and rebrobate minds because they wouldn't acknowledge God.
Read Romans chapter 1
What are they teaching in our churches today that this is even up for question ?
Do they think upon their repeateded questioning of it that some how God will change His mind that it is sin ?
The word of God says it to be so .
But it ALSO says that ALL men have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God .
And if you leave this life without trusting and believing that Jesus Christ paid the price for YOUR sin in full with HIS life and by His blood , then you WILL stand before God at the great judgement of the unredeemed .
And the only thing you will possess will be the only thing from this life that is truly YOURS , that which you REFUSED to let Jesus Christ pay for FOR you .
YOUR SIN .
And you will then pay for in FULL for that which is yours .
But if you place your trust in the finished work of the cross ONLY , for your salvation , and in what HE SECURED there FOR you , then you will appear before the judgement seat of Christ in possesion of THAT which He gave to you . HIS RIGHTEOUISNESS !
Are you staggering at the promise of God ? Or, are you fully persuaded that, what God has promised to us, He is able also to perform ?
Ro:4:20: He staggered not at the promise of God through unbelief; but was strong in faith, giving glory to God;
Ro:4:21: And being fully persuaded that, what he had promised, he was able also to perform.
Ro:4:22: And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness.
Ro:4:23: Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was imputed to him;
Ro:4:24: But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead;
Ro:4:25: Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.
2Co:5:21: For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
Some say Ill show them sinners by my actions, my works, my law keeping . Thats what will get them saved .
Wrong !
What makes you think that your life of self righteousness will lead anyone to the knowledge of the truth that will save them ? The bible says that TODAY is the day of salvation .
This isn't about your so called righteousness. It's about the righteousness of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.
Salvation is about what HE did.
Not what you do.
This is what the bible says about what happens when one gets saved :
Eph:1:12: That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.
Eph:1:13: In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
Do you see it ? IN WHOM YE ALSO TRUSTED , AFTER YE HEARD . heard what ? THE GOSPEL OF YOUR SALVATION.
And what happened when you heard and believed and trusted ?
The moment you did, you WERE sealed by that holy Spirit of PROMISE.
And how does one hear ? You gotta open your mouth and tell them ! Thats how !
Tell them what ? Tell them about HIM. Tell them about how HE paid for their sins and yours.
Tell them that:
Ro:5:8: But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
Ro:5:9: Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
Ro:5:10: For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his , much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
Ro:5:11: And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement.
Now dont twist what Im saying , any of you . There is nothing wrong with leading an honorable and righteous life before God and before men .
In fact we SHOULD .
And some MIGHT come to the knowledge of the truth upon watching you live a life honorable to God , AFTER you tell them of good news of how Jesus Christ took their sin upon Himself nailing them to the tree .
The life you lead SHOULD show men the grace of God . Some out there think that if they act perfect that that will lead men to the truth , or once they have their act all together , THEN they can tell them .
I say to you ; be real with people and tell them of His wonderful grace no matter where in your walk you happen to be .
What do you do when men point their finger at you to justify themselves and say , yeah look at you you hyprocrite , when you slip up and they see it ?
I see it as the PERFECT opportunity to show them from Gods word the gospel of salvation . I agree with them and show them that Im not one bit righteous in my own righteousness than they are in theirs .
And that it is ONLY by trusting in the finished work of the cross that ANYONE can be saved .
And I tell them if Christ paid the price for someone as unworthy as me , that He paid it for them also . And if the likes of me can be saved , then so can they , by believing that He paid the price FOR them .
By trusting in what He accomplished by His shed blood .
How do you know that that person that has been put in your life hasnt yet but a day in this world left to live ? You want to see them sinners get saved ?
Then climb down from , rather JUMP off of your ivory towers of self righteousness religiosity , and let them KNOW about HIS righteousness .
Stop allowing this politically correct world to lull you into a state of ineffectuality and fear .
And stop letting those who preach a works based salvation, divert you from telling them about His wonderful grace and His free gift of undeserved and unmerited salvation provided soley by the finished work of Jesus Christ by the cross for you.
And stop letting them cast doubts and dispersion upon your salvation, rendering you ineffective in preaching the gospel.
Don't you know that it is satan that wants to silence you. And if his workers can make you doubt your salvation by their false doctrine, then how in the world can you tell anyone else if you're unsure of it yourself ?
Let your most ferverent prayer to God for yourself and for each other be that God may give you the boldness to open your mouth and tell them of the good news of Gods free gift of UNMERITED salvation .
Look at how and what Paul instructed the church on what we are to pray for :
Eph:6:18: Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;
Eph:6:19: And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel,
Eph:6:20: For which I am an ambassador in bonds: that therein I may speak boldly, as I ought to speak.
You want to see results ? Start praying daily for God to give you boldness to speak . And for boldness for your brothers and sisters in Christ to speak also .
And let the unsaved know that there is NOTHING righteous about YOU , as there is also nothing righteous about them and the only righteousness that we will EVER have is the righteousness of THE ONE who paid the price for us and took our sin UPON himself and gave us HIS righteousness as a FREE GIFT .
And then trust the Holy Spirit of the Living God to do the same miracle in their lives that he did in your life and set them FREE from the chains of bondage to sin .
The bottom line is this ; Who's righteousness are you trusting in ? HIS or YOURS ?
Your righteousness will never save any one . But HIS righteousness IS salvation .
2Co:5:21: For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
Let this mind be in you that was in our beloved apostle Paul , who the risen and glorified Lord gave these marching orders to :
Ac:26:18: To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.
2Co:5:18: And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;
2Co:5:19: To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
2Co:5:20: Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.
Stop trying to prove to this world how righteous you are . Try being real with them and start telling them how UNWORTHY you REALLY are.
And then tell them about the ONE who justifies the unrighteous and ungodly .
Ro:4:5: But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
Salvation is in our Lord and ONLY in our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ . And by believing and trusting in HIS finished crosswork is how you get it . But they need to hear it . Let them hear it from you .
And stop thinking that you've got something to offer them, other that the only righteousness you possess . The righteousness of the Lord Jesus Christ that was freely imputed to you, inspite of the wicked sinner you were, before you heard the gospel of your salvation and believed and trusted..
1Co:6:11: And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
Ro:3:25: Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
Ro:5:9: Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
Eph:1 : In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;
Col:1:14: In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:
Think about it .
Grace and Peace , archangel
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Cash for Clunkers ?
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Posted:Aug 5, 2009 10:35 am
Last Updated:Aug 19, 2009 1:46 pm 6664 Views
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Two russian nuclear subs have just been reported to be off the coast of the state of Georgia USA.
Do you think that they are trying to cash in on Obama's cash for clunkers program ? 
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Hey Ladylightwalker a Response about Rewards
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Posted:Jul 31, 2009 12:32 pm
Last Updated:Nov 17, 2009 6:47 pm 6410 Views
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Hi LLW, I started writing this in response to a comment you wrote on someones blog somewhere.
I couldn't find it again when I finished. You'll have to forgive this ole man.
You're right about how you build on the foundation of Christ determines rewards. This is different from salvation.
Paul made it very clear that we are saved by grace through faith and trusting the gospel and not that of our own "works".
That was the foundational truth that Paul laid.
Now notice that when Paul talks about building on that foundation he doesn't say "works" but rather "work".
If folks would be careful to build a house, that would be worthy of the foundation it rests on, then that house will stand.
If folks build a house unworthy of that foundation, it won't stand the test of fire, but the foundation will remain after the fire.
So, what would be examples of this?
One could be like, when Paul came and asked why those who were saved by grace through faith now had come to believe they were now justified by "their works".
And they built a house of wood, hay, stubble of their trust in "their works" on top of the foundation of trusting "Christ's work".
Another example could be, that one didn't go on into a deeper walk with Christ. And they didn't build any type of a ministry on top of that foundation. They just didn't do any service to the Lord and telling anyone of His wonderful gospel of grace.
Another example could be those, who by manipulation and fear control the faith of many. And with the huge amounts of money obtained by having advantage over those, build elaborate churches or mega ministries which in their minds and hearts signify to themselves that surely God must approve because of the great success and sheer size of it.
So, the scripture you were talking about, talks about this.
1Co:3:10: According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.
1Co:3:11: For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
1Co:3:12: Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
1Co:3:13: Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
The sin issue was dealt with at the cross. Those who received that grace through faith are not being judged here.
This is a judgment of those who are saved. It is a judgment for rewards for the sort of "work" done in His body or the lack thereof.
Of what sort of "work" it was.
Was it the kind that after being saved you trusted in your works for righteousness and put others under the law and works program ?
Was it the kind where you got saved and never moved on into a deeper walk with the Lord ?
Was it the kind where you built a large organization at the expense of the truth, a kingdom carving work of your own doing ?
Or was it the kind where you didn't handle the word deceitfully and kept the simplicity and truth of the gospel of Christ, and presented it as a faithful ambassador to all that you could ?
1Co:3:14: If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
1Co:3:15: If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
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Now, if your foundation is any other than Christ, no matter how religiously grand it appears, then the judgment seat you stand before will be another. It is called the Great White Throne Judgment. But that is different from the judgment seat of Christ where the saved appear.
So, as far as who is saved here and who isn't, that judgment belongs to God alone. I don't know if some here have built a combustible house on top of the true foundation or if their foundation is something other than Christ.
All I can judge on is what comes out of peoples mouths. And what I hear a lot of here is people who seem to trust in their works for salvation, or for keeping their salvation,or as their part in their salvation, mixed together with what Jesus did. A sort of co- redeemer , working together with Christ for their salvation.
If their foundation is Christ, it seems to me, by the witness of their words, to be at the very best, a shaky structure that will be burned .
Now if a saved person does good works as a result of a regenerated and new creature in Christ, then this is a great thing. The bible says that we are furnished unto good works.
( never let it be falsely and slanderously reported that we don't encourage good works) Good works from a heart that is grateful of God's grace.
NOT good works FOR God's grace. Good works that are the result from or produced by our salvation. Not good works that result in our salvation or for our salvation.
And the best I can do is believe this scripture about their attitudes towards grace, for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh :
Ga:5:4: Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.
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Now later on in Corinthians, Paul is dealing specifically with a grievous sin that was being condoned and in fact if allowed to continue, would compromise the whole assembly like a cancer.
It had to be rooted out. It was a man who, had an sexual relationship with the wife of his own father. (we assume this was his step mother) ( God forbid it was his mother in the flesh) ( ewwww)
1Co:5:1: It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's wife.
1Co:5:2: And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from among you.
1Co:5:3: For I verily, as absent in body, but present in spirit, have judged already, as though I were present, concerning him that hath so done this deed,
1Co:5:4: In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ,
1Co:5:5: To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
Paul's instruction to that body of believers was that they were to put this man out for the destruction of his flesh.
But notice also the statement he made in the second half of the verse of 1Co:5:5 :
that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
So, this man it does appear, was indeed saved. But because of his ruined witness by this act both for himself and the assembly and for Christ, he was to be handed over to satan for the destruction of his flesh.
And in the end he would be saved but have no rewards.
But the story doesn't end there.
Later in Corinthians 2 , Paul refers to this man again that had repented of this sin . And he told them that he had them put this man out to see if they would obey him in this. That move led this man to repentance. And Paul then instructed them to forgive this man and to bring him back into fellowship unless the judgment would be too hard for him to bear. The action which they inflicted on him was sufficient and they now needed to comfort him with forgiveness and and confirm their love to him.
2Co:2:6: Sufficient to such a man is this punishment, which was inflicted of many.
2Co:2: So that contrariwise ye ought rather to forgive him, and comfort him, lest perhaps such a one should be swallowed up with overmuch sorrow.
2Co:2:8: Wherefore I beseech you that ye would confirm your love toward him.
2Co:2:9: For to this end also did I write, that I might know the proof of you, whether ye be obedient in all things.
2Co:2:10: To whom ye forgive any thing, I forgive also: for if I forgave any thing, to whom I forgave it, for your sakes forgave I it in the person of Christ;
2Co:2:11: Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices.
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Claudia's deleted song to me.
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Posted:Jul 18, 2009 2:00 pm
Last Updated:Jul 31, 2009 12:38 pm 6416 Views
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Claudia,
Seems as though your post just won't stick and stay for ya.
It's there, then gone. There, then gone. There , then gone .
Gee that sounds familiar.
So here, let me post it for ya. Copied in to a word file for ya the last time it appeared.
It was about the best birthday post I could get . Thank you so much.
Nobody ever wrote me a song on my birthday before !
Again, thanks. archangel 
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ARCHANGEL 1954 I created a SONG for you in return for your Poem Watch Post | Post a comment
shouldknow 7/18/2009 10:54 am
[post a] NOTICE: I am only doing this because "Archangel1954" created a Poem about me on HIS blog.
(I hope Sabre Fire doesnt see this)
Now this 'Song" I did is really to explain how I see it. If you will just read between the lines, you might see how when I think of all these ISSUES concerning the Law, I cannot understand how any REASONABLE PERSON would think that God has done away with the 10 Commandment Law.
And YES I really really REALLY am leaving, but I suppose that I would just feel better if I were only understood. It messes with my mind, because I cannot see how with the HUNDREDS of Bible texts on keeping the Commandments, people cannot see this. To me, its SO PLAIN.
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IF YOU ONLY HAD A BRAIN
(Sung to the Tune "If I Only Had a Brain" from Wizard of Oz)
Scarecrow
When you see that God has given
a Law for man to live in,
-that He made it very plain
( yes, He made it very plain)
You would think that we should do it
that there's really nothin to it,
...if you only had a Brain
(...if you only had a Brain)
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When you see that God's above you
and you realize He loves you,
...and to keep your life from pain
(...yes, to keep your life from pain)
The law's given to protect you
and not given to reject you,
...if you only had a Brain
(...if you only had a Brain)
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Jesus on the law expanded
it's transgression reprimanded,
to not keep it is insane
(to not keep it is insane)
If you loved Him you'd enjoy it
you'd see He did not destroy it,
...if you only had a Brain
(...if you only had a Brain)
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But they try -His law to kill it
They think they should not fulfill it,
and to flush it down the drain
(Yes, to flush it down the drain)
They should see they're killing Jesus
they think life is just to please us,
...see? they do not have a Brain
(...no they do not have a Brain)
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They are not goin to heaven
while they hold on to sin's leaven,
...this I have tried to explain
(Yes, I have tried to explain)
They would see that they cant take it
and to heaven they wont make it.
...if they only had a Brain
(...if they only had a Brain)
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IF YOU ONLY HAD A HEART
(Sung to the Tune "If I Only Had a Brain" from Wizard of Oz)
Tin Man
Clau-di-a was always tryin'
to keep you folks from lyin'
...should've seen that from the start
(should've seen that from the start)
You would see through her intentions
by the scriptures that she mentions,
...if you only had a heart
(if you only had a heart)
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She was never tryin' to hurt you
...only tryin to alert you,
of the danger you were in
(of the danger you were in)
If she hadnt stopped to tell you
you were on the Road to Hell, -you....
couldnt see the mess you're in
(couldnt see the mess you're in)
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Gal:4:16: Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?
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For one who is so smart you'd think she shouldknow
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Posted:Jul 16, 2009 7:38 pm
Last Updated:May 11, 2010 3:09 pm 9038 Views
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There is one here with wooly hair, so full of quirks
Tells folks to be saved one must trust in their works
Says Christ's sacrifice is but a down payment for sin
The rest by law and works for God to let you in
Says the price Christ payed is but a probation
What He did alone isn't enough for salvation
What He did was but to enable us to claw
Our way to heaven by our works and the law
Says that by faith we can't win the race
Adding our works completes God's grace
Says grace through faith isn't enough alone
But by works and law we must also atone
Oh this one with hair like wool, so full of lies
Only wool she pulls is the wool over her eyes
In the finished work of Christ alone, she says we can't trust
But adding to it, our works of the law is a must
Says that faith alone in grace is great jest
But adding our works to it, is surely the best
Salvation by works is surely her game
I wonder by now, can you tell me her name ?
If not, let me give you more clues
Many times she said , I'm so sick of yous
I'm so outta here you'd think I was a ghost
Oh wait, I think I'll do one more post.
Or says I'm so out of here, you're all full of bull
And the next time you look the blog page is full
With ten more blog posts she made overnight
Just had to come back to set you all right
Still not sure who I'm referring to ?
Here let me give yet another clue
Whenever one posts on The gift of God's grace
She immediately shoves the law in their face
She says Christ's work, is for us, just probation
Must add law and work to retain your salvation
She says to listen, she'll tell you the way
Observe the law of the sabbath day
Listen to me you dumb and stupid heads, and I'll tell you well
Observe the seventh day if you want to stay out of hell
Surely by now ,you've been able to glean
From my clues, just who it is that I mean
If not by now , you probably never will
If so, maybe you've swallowed her swill
According to her, you're just stupid heads, Oh well
Doesn't matter much, she says you're all going to hell
And she thinks you're so stupid and what could be stupider
Than saying folks here are stupider than Jupiter ?
Stupider than Jupiter. Now isn't that somethin
Coming from this wooly, curly head bumpkin
She knows it all and she will tell what is and what's not
I hereby officially nominate her The BC Blog Snot
You have deceived yourself ,and that's just FINE with me because I don't care anymore.
She keeps on saying that and goodbye, but keeps coming back through the door
That door she is using must be of the revolving kind
Either she doesn't know how they work or she's out of her mind
Says GET A BRAIN... if you have to, you can purchase one at WalMart
Is that where hers came from, that makes her think she's so smart ?
Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth? No it's the lie
You never tell the truth, you say you mean it this time, Now GOOD-BYE!
But to her, we are the stupid ones , surely seems so
But at least I know the difference between to stay and to go
To stay, to go, to stay, to go, to stay, to go
For one who is so smart you'd think she shouldknow
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Instructions from a pesky little fly
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Posted:Jul 13, 2009 8:20 pm
Last Updated:Mar 3, 2010 1:07 pm 6528 Views
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Quoting Claudia :
"INSTRUCTIONS
Go online.
Dig up ANYTHING YOU CAN FIND that sounds bad about the Seventh Day Adventist Church, whether or not its true, because all you're wanting to do is slam my Church...
then post it here."
Funny thing is after that she asked a favor and that was to post to her false church.
Too funny. Wouldn't that be a hoot ?
Advertising for a cult by linking to it ?
I think I'll just follow the instructions ok ?
I'll forsake the false ones and just stick with the true ones though.
Thanks for your permission , in fact, instructions to do this Claudia.
It makes me feel so much better about posting this.
I wouldn't have done it otherwise.
Thank you so much.
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The following information from by David W. Cloud is very well explained...
"Seventh-day Adventism plays the same game in salvation as every other false movement of Christendom. They profess to teach salvation by grace through faith, but they redefine this in a way that is contrary to New Testament doctrine.
Though they often deny this, the Adventist denomination teaches that salvation is by grace plus law, faith plus works. Grace, according to Adventist theology, is the power and forgiveness God gives to enable a sinner to keep the law and to thereby build a holy character fit for Heaven. He who fails to build the right character by God's grace will never see Heaven. Faith and works are the two oars by which the believer is propelled to glory.
The Adventist doctrine of salvation is a subtle mixture of grace and law that can never provide Bible security. Simply stated, this doctrine is as follows: The sinner is powerless to live up to God's holy standards, the law. He does not and cannot possess in himself the character demanded of God. Thus God has come to his aid through the sacrifice of Christ and through the power of the Holy Spirit. God now offers, because of the atonement of His , enablement to the sinner by which he is empowered to keep the law. Christ's blood covers all shortcomings, (only) as long as these are properly confessed and forsaken. God offers the grace and power; the sinner must take these and develop within himself the character demanded by the law, or at least, to put it as the cults would, to allow Jesus to do this work. The believing sinner who fails to properly walk with the Lord in the power of the Holy Spirit shall ultimately be lost, in spite of his faith in Christ.
This doctrine of salvation cannot and does not offer any security for the adherent. There can never be assurance of eternal life for the cultist, because he does not, in practice, believe that eternal salvation is TOTALLY a gift of God through the finished work of Jesus Christ. The cultist, rather, is convinced that he, too, has a part in gaining eternal life. He must properly endure to the end in the law of God and the works of his church. If he fails to develop the proper character, he will never inherit eternal life. Thus, he can have no assurance of salvation until after the examinations of judgment day. The misled cultist cannot "stand and rejoice in hope of the glory of God" (Rom. 5:2). Since works play a role in his salvation, he can never testify with joy, saying, "I am NOW justified by his blood ... I SHALL BE saved from wrath through him" (Rom. 5:9).
Again I must say thank you Claudia for asking...oops! sorry. Instructing us to post this.
Thanks so much !
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Ladylightwalker and godlycook would you show me where claudia says you say it's ok to sin ?
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Posted:Jul 13, 2009 8:01 pm
Last Updated:Jul 31, 2009 1:04 am 6655 Views
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godlycook n ladylightwalker, show me where it is according to Claudia Jul 10, 2009 11:11 pm
I've just read that you two and I are teaching that all people have to do to is believe and that you teach that it is ok for folks to sin.
I've been searching and searching the things you guys have posted and I JUST CAN"T seem to find where either of you have said such a thing.
Why, from the comments that she has made it seems that you are both ENCOURAGING people to sin.
But all I can see is both of you encouraging people to walk in the Spirit and as a result, the mortifying of sin and the results of the good works will be manifest in the believers life
But the accusations must be so, mustn't they ?
It couldn't be that like Paul says about how they falsely accused him of the exact same thing could it ? Because of their offended carnal natures could it ?
Ro:3:8: And not rather, (as we be slanderously reported, and as some affirm that we say,) Let us do evil, that good may come? whose damnation is just.
Claudia couldn't be slanderously reporting and affirming that YOU say that it's ok for people to sin could she?
Well in spite of her many accusations to the fact that you teach such a thing, I can't for the life of me find where you did.
Couldn't be that her offended carnal mind just see's what it wants to see and then she reports it as fact could it ?
It couldn't be that one who's merit is in her law keeping could possibly be bearing false witness against you could it ?
She couldn't be breaking the very law that she justifies herself by could she ?
Maybe it's really her that believes she can break the law when it's convenient for her as long as she repents afterwards.
Or maybe she gets to pick the laws that she must adhere to and gets to pick the ones she gets to break.
I'm not too sure about trusting someone who comes in to this forum and makes statements that she is going to do something and that she is going to not do some things and within minutes does those things she says she won't do and doesn't do the things that she says she will do.
I mean it's ok for people to change their minds occasionally but EVERY TWO MINUTES ?
It's gotta be makin her a bit dizzy wouldn't ya think ?
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THE DUNG PILE OF HUMAN RIGHTEOUSNESS
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Posted:Jul 11, 2009 12:07 pm
Last Updated:Oct 25, 2011 12:48 pm 6558 Views
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THE DUNG PILE
OF HUMAN RIGHTEOUSNESS
by K. R. Blades
It is often heard within the prevailing philosophies of the day that people are basically good by nature. There is in all of us, it is said, a 'core of goodness' which in truth is the 'real us.' People are intrinsically good and this professed 'intrinsic goodness of man' is now fervently being set forth and upheld as a fundamental truth which must finally be acknowledged. It must be acknowledged, we are told, and acted upon. It must come out from behind the shroud of archaic and impeditive thought, like that of Bible believing Christianity, which has stalled the advancement of man and hindered the development of the power of human potential. The fruit of this 'core of goodness' must finally be allowed to spring forth and flourish on the stage of human history. This is a 'new age,' we are told, in which mankind is casting off the shackles of archaic thought that have bound it for so long. The time has come in man's development for man to be able to know and fulfill his destiny through a proper understanding and appreciation for who and what he really is. This is what we are told, and at the center of all of this realization of who and what man really is, is the essential truth of the 'intrinsic goodness of man.'
It should come as no surprise to us that this is the world's thinking and that men by nature fail to see themselves for the sinners and unrighteous beings that they really are. It is the nature of sin itself to contradict God and to 'change the truth of God into a lie.' When God, therefore, declares that men are "dead in trespasses and sins" and that "there is none righteous, no, not one," it is the 'nature of the beast of sin' to deny what God says and to contradict it. And this is just what men do.
It also should come as no surprise to us that the lie about man having an 'intrinsic goodness' is actually the foundation upon which rests every perversion of the Gospel of Christ. The Gospel is perverted when men's good works, of whatever kind, are added to faith in Christ as a requirement for justification. The mixture of good works with faith in Christ "perverts the gospel of Christ," and the result is "another gospel; which is not another." It's a false gospel that can save no one. Men's good works are repulsive to God's Holiness and Righteousness, and His Justice will not accept them. If a man's good works could contribute in any way to his salvation, then, as the apostle Paul declares, the Lord Jesus Christ died on the cross for no reason at all.
"I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, THEN CHRIST IS DEAD IN VAIN." (Galatians 2:21)
But the lie of man having an 'intrinsic goodness' teaming up with the pride of man's heart deceives many into thinking that their works have value to them in God's eyes and that they are acceptable to His Holiness and Righteousness. They, therefore, believe perversions of the Gospel of Christ and reject the gospel of justification by grace through faith without works.
In the light of all of this it would be profitable to briefly remind ourselves of exactly what God says about what men are by nature, and what His own estimate is regarding men's good works. For in the face of the prevalence of 'the lie' it is easy to become desensitized to just how false the idea of man's 'intrinsic goodness' really is.
In Philippians 3 we have a passage in which the apostle Paul through the use of one very particular and descriptive word sets forth for us just how it is that God views men's own righteousness. What makes this testimony of special importance is the fact that Paul sets it forth as one who used to believe he possessed by nature an 'intrinsic goodness.' Paul had been a Pharisee, who in accordance with Pharisaic doctrine believed he possessed a natural righteousness and holiness in God's sight. He, therefore, as he says had "confidence in the flesh." He had confidence that he by nature was good, and that he not only could, but actually did, bring forth works and deeds that God would accept and would be "gain" to him in God's sight. But all this he found out to be untrue. However, not only was it false, it was outlandishly false, as he declares in a very descriptive way when he says...
"But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for Christ.
Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, AND DO COUNT THEM BUT DUNG, that I may win Christ,
And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:" (Philippians 3 9)
"AND DO COUNT THEM BUT DUNG" , that's what Paul realized all his own good works really were in God's sight. They were "dung." They were the waste products of a defiled nature. They were not a sweet smelling savor to God at all. Instead, they had the stinking repulsive odor of manure to Him. They were refuse; a good for nothing accumulated dung pile. What Paul realized about his own good works is just what God had declared to Israel in Isaiah's day.
"But WE ARE ALL AS AN UNCLEAN THING AND ALL OUR RIGHTEOUSNESSES ARE AS FILTHY RAGS; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away." (Isaiah 64:6)
There it is again! Men's righteousnesses; men's good works and deeds; are "as filthy rags" to God. They are not clean and pure with the attractiveness of finely woven cloth or exquisite lace work. They are not beautiful to Him and lovely to behold like a tapestry of fine workmanship. But in stark contrast they are "as filthy rags." They are as rags that have been wiped in some foul and offensive excretion and are therefore filthy and unclean.
( to be continued )
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godlycook n ladylightwalker, show me where it is according to Claudia
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Posted:Jul 10, 2009 8:11 pm
Last Updated:Aug 2, 2009 1:03 pm 5981 Views
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I've just read that you two and I are teaching that all people have to do to is believe and that you teach that it is ok for folks to sin.
I've been searching and searching the things you guys have posted and I JUST CAN"T seem to find where either of you have said such a thing.
Why, from the comments that she has made it seems that you are both ENCOURAGING people to sin.
But all I can see is both of you encouraging people to walk in the Spirit and as a result, the mortifying of sin and the results of the good works will be manifest in the believers life
But the accusations must be so, mustn't they ?
It couldn't be that like Paul says about how they falsely accused him of the exact same thing could it ? Because of their offended carnal natures could it ?
Ro:3:8: And not rather, (as we be slanderously reported, and as some affirm that we say,) Let us do evil, that good may come? whose damnation is just.
Claudia couldn't be slanderously reporting and affirming that YOU say that it's ok for people to sin could she?
Well in spite of her many accusations to the fact that you teach such a thing, I can't for the life of me find where you did.
Couldn't be that her offended carnal mind just see's what it wants to see and then she reports it as fact could it ?
It couldn't be that one who's merit is in her law keeping could possibly be bearing false witness against you could it ?
She couldn't be breaking the very law that she justifies herself by could she ?
Maybe it's really her that believes she can break the law when it's convenient for her as long as she repents afterwards.
Or maybe she gets to pick the laws that she must adhere to and gets to pick the ones she gets to break.
I'm not too sure about trusting someone who comes in to this forum and makes statements that she is going to do something and that she is going to not do some things and within minutes does those things she wishes not to do and doesn't do the things that she wishes to do.
Sound familiar? HAHAHA
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Claudia's threat. Let's see how many times she keeps her word. Oh this is gonna be good. Quote :
Okay I have completely HAD IT
shouldknow
7/10/2009 12:03 pm
I am NEVER going to allow anyone on my Blog again. And never going to go to anyone else's Blog again. And I am not going to even bother to go look to see what anyone else says out there anymore.
Im just so tired of the ignorance and the underhanded dealings.
Thats it for me.
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Hey Claudia, what are you doing here then ? You can't even tell the truth and stick to it for a minute can you ? hahahaha
How many times today have you read other peoples posts AND commented ?
HAHAHAHA
How do you expect anyone to believe you when you aren't even true to yourself ?
Oh, you are just too much.
Repent from your carnal way of thinking and change it to bring every thought into subjection unto the word of God.
You can begin here. :
Ro:4:4: Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.
Ro:4:5: But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
Faith in what ?
Faith in Jesus Christ and in His work and not in your's . ALONE
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