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Trinity verses
Posted:Mar 18, 2024 8:31 am
Last Updated:May 9, 2024 8:52 am

Large posts can have a habit of being a bit jumbled. I hope this is not the case. I pray this may bless and edify.

This can be used as a Bible Study though it's by no means complete, do your own study as well and remember to always consider the source as there's a lot of 'junk' online as we are all well aware. To deny the Trinity is to deny the very nature of God Himself.

2 John 1.7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

Let Jesus do the talking through His Word and let the Holy Spirit convict, then ask, "What do the verses mean?"

There is the constant theme of the Angel being with Israel, it's Jesus if we look at the verses.

Trinity Verses in the O.T.

Gen 3:8 And they heard the voice of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God amongst the trees of the garden.

Is the voice of God the Word of God; Jesus?

Gen 16.7-14 And the angel of the Lord found her by a fountain of water in the wilderness, 10 And the angel of the Lord said unto her, I will multiply thy seed exceedingly, that it shall not be numbered for multitude. 11 And the angel of the Lord said unto her, Behold, thou art with and shalt bear a , and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the Lord hath heard thy affliction. 12 And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren. 13 And she called the name of the Lord that spake unto her, Thou God seest me: for she said, Have I also here looked after him that seeth me?

It is the Angel who will multiply 'thy seed exceedingly' He can only be God. He also prophesies a multitude and a , Ishmael.

Gen 31:13 I am the God of Bethel

Gen 35.1 And God (Elohim) said unto Jacob, Arise, go up to Bethel, and dwell there: and make there an altar unto God,(El) that appeared unto thee

The Godhead said make an altar unto the angel who appeared to him; Jesus! He did not say, "Make an altar unto Me."

Gen 35.7 Elbethel: because there God appeared unto him,
Who was that God? The Angel, Jesus; a Christophany.

Gen 35:11 And God said unto him, I am God Almighty: be fruitful and multiply ..... Speaking to Jacob.

Gen 48:15-16 The Angel which redeemed me It is God alone who can redeem.

Ex 14:19-20 And the angel of God, which went before .... the pillar of the cloud went from before their face, and stood behind them:

Ex 23:20-21 I send an Angel before thee, my name is in him.
This Angel (Jesus) condemns for sin, only God can judge sin.

Ex 24:9-11 Moses, and Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel: 10 And they saw the God of Israel: and there was under his feet ... 11 also they saw God, and did eat and drink.

Humans saw God; they ate and drank with Him. He came close to man, became personal.

Ex 33:2 And I will send an angel before thee; and I will drive out the Canaanite, the Amorite .... V14 And he said, My presence shall go with thee, and I will give thee rest.

The angel is the presence of God Himself.

V15 And he said unto him, If thy presence go not with me, carry us not up hence.

Num 20:16 and sent an angel, and hath brought us forth out of Egypt: Who brought out of Egypt an Angel? God; there is one God: (Deut 6:4, Isa 44:6, 24)

Judges 13:3-24 And the angel of the Lord appeared unto the woman, and said unto her, Behold now, thou art barren, and bearest not: but thou shalt conceive, and bear a . 4 Now therefore beware, I pray thee, and drink not wine nor strong drink, and eat not any unclean thing: 5 For, lo, thou shalt conceive, and bear a ; and no razor shall come on his head: for the shall be a Nazarite unto God from the womb: and he shall begin to deliver Israel out of the hand of the Philistines. 6 Then the woman came and told her husband.... and said unto him, Behold, the man hath appeared unto me, that came unto me the other day. 17 And Manoah said unto the angel of the Lord, What is thy name, that when thy sayings come to pass we may do thee honour? 18 And the angel of the Lord said unto him, Why askest thou thus after my name, seeing it is secret? (Some translations say 'Wonderful'; The Hebrews often named their , by their character. Pre-named for Jesus; Isaiah 9:6) 19 So Manoah took a with a meat offering, and offered it upon a rock unto the Lord: and the angel did wonderously; and Manoah and his wife looked on. 20 For it came to pass, when the flame went up toward heaven from off the altar, that the angel of the Lord ascended in the flame of the altar. And Manoah and his wife looked on it, and fell on their faces to the ground. 21 But the angel of the Lord did no more appear to Manoah and to his wife. Then Manoah knew that he was an angel of the Lord. 22 And Manoah said unto his wife, We shall surely die, because we have seen God.

He became part of the sacrifice and went up in the flame.

Ps 82:8 Arise, O God, judge the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations.

How can God inherit anything? He already possesses the nations. The Father who owns everything is saying He will give all to the in the future, probably as a reward for His sufferings and the other reward is, "For the joy set before Him he faced the cross." (Heb 12:2). That's His church. Jesus inherits us, we are co-heirs in His inheritance (Rom 8:17).

Isa 9:6 For unto us a is born, unto us a is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

The Counsellor is the Holy Spirit, also called Comforter in other translations
Isaiah declares the Lord is their Saviour before Jesus became incarnate.

Isa 43:10 Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord God, and his Spirit, hath sent me.

Who is talking? Jesus. V11 I, even I, am the Lord; and beside me there is no saviour. (One God)

Isa 44:6 Thus saith the Lord the King of Israel, and his redeemer the Lord of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. (First and the last also, Isa 41:4, Isa 48:12. Rev 22:13, Rev 1:11, Rev 1:17)

Isaiah 44:24 - Thus saith the Lord, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the Lord that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;

Isa 48:16 Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord God, and his Spirit, hath sent me.

Again who is speaking? Jesus. This is not 3 'modes' but 3 separate persons.

Isa 54:5 For thy Maker is thine husband; the Lord of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called.

Isa 63.7-9 so he was their Saviour. the angel of his presence saved them: he redeemed them; vexed his holy Spirit: he fought against them. V14 As a beast goeth down into the valley, the Spirit of the Lord caused him to rest: so didst thou lead thy people,

Isa 33:10 Now will I rise, saith the Lord; now will I be exalted; now will I lift up myself.

Isa 52:13 Behold, my servant shall deal prudently, he shall be exalted and extolled, and be very high.

God is the High and exalted One, here 'His Servant' is exalted, extolled and very high, this can only be Jesus as God Himself.

Isa 57:15 For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones.

Isa 63.7-10 I will mention the lovingkindnesses of the Lord,: so he was their Saviour. 9 In all their affliction he was afflicted, and the angel of his presence saved them: in his love and in his pity he redeemed them; and he bare them, and carried them all the days of old. 10 But they rebelled, and vexed his holy Spirit: therefore he was turned to be their enemy, and he fought against them. 11 Then he remembered the days of old, Moses, and his people, saying, Where is he that brought them up out of the sea with the shepherd of his flock? where is he that put his holy Spirit within him? V14 the Spirit of the Lord caused him to rest: so didst thou lead thy people, V16 Doubtless thou art our father, though Abraham be ignorant of us, and Israel acknowledge us not: thou, O Lord, art our father, our redeemer; thy name is from everlasting.

Isaiah declares before Jesus' birth that the Lord was their Saviour, Redeemer and His Holy Spirit was being 'vexed.' Only a person can be vexed and because of this vexing He (God) became their enemy. In V14, the Spirit of the Lord caused him to rest, He led the people, this can only be a Person. A spirit is a being; the Holy Spirit is a Holy Being.

Dan 5:11-12* There is a man in thy kingdom, in whom is the spirit of the holy gods; and in the days of thy father light and understanding and wisdom, like the wisdom of the gods, was found in him; whom the king Nebuchadnezzar thy father, the king, I say, thy father, made master of the magicians, astrologers, Chaldeans, and soothsayers; 12 Forasmuch as an excellent spirit, and knowledge, and understanding, interpreting of dreams, and shewing of hard sentences, and dissolving of doubts, were found in the same Daniel, whom the king named Belteshazzar: now let Daniel be called, and he will shew the interpretation. V14 I have even heard of thee, that the spirit of the gods is in thee, and that light and understanding and excellent wisdom is found in thee.

They realised there was a Spirit of God in Daniel as he knew things no man could know, his knowledge was supernatural but as they were pagans they thought there was more than one god. So we can see the Trinity here. It's interesting it says twice the 'spirit of the gods' - singular, not 'spirits' plural, nor 'spirit of a god'.

Dan 7:9-10* I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire. 10 A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened.

The Ancient of Days is God the Father.

V13-14 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him. 14 And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.

Jesus, of Man, has dominion over all nations (Rev 7:9, 13.7, 15:4 also Psalm 82:8, Psalm 86:9, Psalm 96:1 etc.)

Zech 3:3-4 Now Joshua was clothed with filthy garments, and stood before the angel. 4 And he answered and spake unto those that stood before him, saying, Take away the filthy garments from him. And unto him he said, Behold, I have caused thine iniquity to pass from thee, and I will clothe thee with change of raiment. Only God can take away iniquity.

Zech 12:1-10 The burden of the word of the Lord for Israel, saith the Lord, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him. 2 Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem. 3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it. 4 In that day, saith the Lord, I will smite every with astonishment, and his rider with madness: and I will open mine eyes upon the house of Judah, and will smite every of the people with blindness. 5 And the governors of Judah shall say in their heart, The inhabitants of Jerusalem shall be my strength in the Lord of hosts their God. 6 In that day will I make the governors of Judah like an hearth of fire among the wood, and like a torch of fire in a sheaf; and they shall devour all the people round about, on the right hand and on the left: and Jerusalem shall be inhabited again in her own place, even in Jerusalem. 7 The Lord also shall save the tents of Judah first, that the glory of the house of David and the glory of the inhabitants of Jerusalem do not magnify themselves against Judah. 8 In that day shall the Lord defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David; and the house of David shall be as God, as the angel of the Lord before them. 9 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem. 10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only , and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn. 11 In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem, as the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddon. 12 And the land shall mourn, every family apart; the family of the house of David apart, and their wives apart; the family of the house of Nathan apart, and their wives apart; 13 The family of the house of Levi apart, and their wives apart; the family of Shimei apart, and their wives apart; 14 All the families that remain, every family apart, and their wives apart.

All the way through, I, Lord, I, Lord. You can ask a Jewish person, "When was and how was Yahweh pierced?"
(The Trinity is 3 distinct Personal expressions of One God, separate yet One in His intrinsic divine essence/nature)

Joshua stands before an Angel, this Angel takes away sin, only God can do that an angel cannot. Then He gives Joshua a change of clothes from filthy garments (filthy rags, Isa 64:6. Similar theme in Phil 3. 8 )

Hosea 12:2-5 The Lord hath also a controversy with Judah, he had power with God: 4 Yea, he had power over the angel, and prevailed: he wept, and made supplication unto him: he found him in Bethel, and there he spake with us; 5 Even the Lord God of hosts; the Lord is his memorial.

Trinity Verses N.T. referring to O.T.

1 Cor 10:1-4 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; 2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea; 3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat; 4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ. 5 But with many of them God was not well pleased: for they were overthrown in the wilderness.

Who was in the cloud leading Israel? God the Father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit. Who is the Rock? Christ. Who punished them for their sin over and over again? Moses struck the Rock instead of speaking to it; a symbol of Christ (as also was the mana and the serpent on a pole) and was forbidden to enter into the Promised Land.

1 Cor 10:9 Neither let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of serpents. (Num 21:6)

Heb 11:24-27 By faith Moses, when he was come to years, refused to be called the of Pharaoh's ; 25 Choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of God, than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a season; 26 Esteeming the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures in Egypt: for he had respect unto the recompence of the reward. 27 By faith he forsook Egypt, not fearing the wrath of the king: for he endured, as seeing him who is invisible.

Jude 4-5 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ. 5 I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not.

Mat 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with , and shall bring forth a , and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. (Isa 9:6)

Matthew 23:34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:

Mat 23:37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!

Philippians 2:10-11 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Isaiah 45:23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.

On the Throne N.T.

Revelation 7:17 For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.

Rev 22:1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb. Rev 22;3 And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:

On the Throne O.T

Kings 22:19 And he said, Hear thou therefore the word of the Lord: I saw the Lord sitting on his throne, and all the host of heaven standing by him on his right hand and on his left.

Psalm 11:4 The Lord is in his holy temple, the Lord's throne is in heaven: his eyes behold, his eyelids try, the of men.

Ps 47:8 God reigneth over the heathen: God sitteth upon the throne of his holiness. (*Dan 7:9-10, 13-14 above)

Trinity Verses N.T.

Luke 3:22 And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved ; in thee I am well pleased.(Mat 3:16, John 1:32)

The Father is God: John 17:3, And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. 1 Cor 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

The Father is Eternal: 1 Cor 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him. Mal 3:6 For I am the Lord, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

The Father is not the Holy Spirit: John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

The is God: John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. Heb 1:8 But unto the he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

Col 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
The is Eternal: Heb 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his , whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

Heb 1:10-12 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands: 11 They shall perish; but thou remainest; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment; Col 1:15-17 Who is the image of the invisible God, the ** firstborn of every creature: 16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. (**see footnote on firstborn)

The is not the Father: John 6:38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.

John 8:16 And yet if I judge, my judgment is true: for I am not alone, but I and the Father that sent me.

John 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

The Holy Spirit is God: Acts 5:3-4 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land? 4 Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.

Heb 3.7-11 Wherefore (as the Holy Ghost saith, To day if ye will hear his voice, 8 Harden not your hearts, as in the provocation, in the day of temptation in the wilderness: 9 When your fathers tempted me, proved me, and saw my works forty years. 10 Wherefore I was grieved with that generation, and said, They do alway err in their heart; and they have not known my ways. 11 So I sware in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest.)

The Holy Spirit is Eternal: Heb 9:14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

Job 33:4 The spirit of God hath made me, and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life.

Ps 104:30 Thou sendest forth thy spirit, they are created: and thou renewest the face of the earth.

The Holy Spirit is not the : Acts 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

John 16:13-15 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. 14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you. 15 All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

Three distinct Persons, yet One God.:

Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the , and of the Holy Ghost:

2 Cor 13:14 The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, be with you all. Amen.

Eph 4:4-6 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; 5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all. Deut 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord

Other Deity of Jesus Verses

Matthew 23:37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! (Luke 13:34)

Mark 2:5 When Jesus saw their faith, he said unto the sick of the palsy, , thy sins be forgiven thee.

V10-12 But that ye may know that the of man hath power on earth to forgive sins, (he saith to the sick of the palsy,) 11 I say unto thee, Arise, and take up thy bed, and go thy way into thine house. 12 And immediately he arose, took up the bed, and went forth before them all; insomuch that they were all amazed, and glorified God, saying, We never saw it on this fashion.

Luke 9:35 And there came a voice out of the cloud, saying, This is my beloved : hear him.

John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

John 5:17-18 But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work. 18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.

John 10:30 I and my Father are one.

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Heb 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.

Heb 1:8-10 But unto the he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. 9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. (Ps 45:6-7)

Revelation 1:5-6 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood, 6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

Rev 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Revelation 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

God became Man/Flesh

John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

1 John 1:1-2 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life; 2 (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us; ) 3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Jesus Christ.

John 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?

Col 1:19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;

Col 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
Philippians 2:6-7 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory

Redeemer/Saviour, Judge

John 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the :

John 5:27 And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the of man.

John 9:39 And Jesus said, For judgment I am come into this world, that they which see not might see; and that they which see might be made blind.

Acts 10:42 And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead.

2 Timothy 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom

2 Peter 1:1 Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ:

Luke 2:11 For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.

John 5:21-29 For as the Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth them; even so the quickeneth whom he will. 22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the : 23 That all men should honour the , even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the honoureth not the Father which hath sent him. 24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. 25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the of God: and they that hear shall live. 26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the to have life in himself; 27 And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the of man. 28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Acts 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

Titus 2:13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;

Heb 1:3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:
Hebrews 2:17-18 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people. 18 For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted.

Hebrews 4:15-16 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin. 16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.

1 Peter 2:24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed

1 Timothy 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

Heb 10:10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

Heb 10:14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.

Rev 1:17-18 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: 18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

Rev 2:8 And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive;

Rev 5:9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;

Some O.T. references: 1 Samuel 2:10 The adversaries of the Lord shall be broken to pieces; out of heaven shall he thunder upon them: the Lord shall judge the ends of the earth; and he shall give strength unto his king, and exalt the horn of his anointed. (Who is the Anointed One?)

Psalm 50:6; And the heavens shall declare his righteousness: for God is judge himself. Selah.

Ecclesiastes 12:14 For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.


John 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Col 1:16-17 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist

Jesus - ReCreator

Philippians 3:20-21 For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ: 21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself

1 Corinthians 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

Isaiah 65:17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.

Isaiah 66:22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the Lord, so shall your seed and your name remain.

2 Peter 3:13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

The God of the Bible is jealous, Jesus accepts Worship

Exodus 34:14 For thou shalt worship no other god: for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God:

Deuteronomy 8:19 And it shall be, if thou do at all forget the Lord thy God, and walk after other gods, and serve them, and worship them, I testify against you this day that ye shall surely perish.

Matthew 14:33 Then they that were in the ship came and worshipped him, saying, Of a truth thou art the of God.

Mat 28:9 And as they went to tell his disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, All hail. And they came and held him by the feet, and worshipped him.

John 5:23 That all men should honour the , even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.

Revelation 4:10-11 The four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the throne, and worship him that liveth for ever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying, 11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.

Rev 5:8-9 And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints.

Rev 5:12-14 Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing. 13 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever. 14 And the four beasts said, Amen. And the four and twenty elders fell down and worshipped him that liveth for ever and ever.

Colossians 2:6 As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him

The Church is 'His Body' and He's with every believer, therefore He's omnipresent.

Eph 1:22-23 And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church, Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all.

Colossians 3:11 Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.

Note: Ps 89:20-27 I have found David my servant; with my holy oil have I anointed him: 21 With whom my hand shall be established: mine arm also shall strengthen him. 22 The enemy shall not exact upon him; nor the of wickedness afflict him. 23 And I will beat down his foes before his face, and plague them that hate him. 24 But my faithfulness and my mercy shall be with him: and in my name shall his horn be exalted. 25 I will set his hand also in the sea, and his right hand in the rivers. 26 He shall cry unto me, Thou art my father, my God, and the rock of my salvation. 27 Also I will make him my firstborn, higher than the kings of the earth.

The firstborn had a double inheritance. (Deut 21:17). David here is called 'firstborn' which means in status. He is to rule under Jesus in the Millennium, his status is higher than any other human king. He was not firstborn in family as he was the youngest. Non-Trinitarian cults will try to prove this is a natural birth statement when it's a status statement as this verse in Ps 89 shows. We know Jesus was pre-existent before He became a Man, God incarnate. So Jesus and David are called 'Firstborn' in Scripture, a picture of headship status in the ruling of Israel during the Millennium.

Summary: As Christians we are told by God through His Word who He is. We have no option but to believe a Oneness in His Triune essence: He's a Triune Godhead even though the word Trinity itself is not in the Bible; each Member intrinsically God. He is too big to comprehend so we must accept His explanation of Himself.

A Scottish preacher once said, "To understand the Trinity you'll lose your mind, to reject the Trinity you'll lose your soul."

The Spirit of Jesus is the Spirit of the Father is the Holy Spirit, "Holy, Holy, Holy", is the thrice Holy God. (Rev 4. 8 ).
A bit of humour
Posted:Apr 30, 2020 10:36 pm
Last Updated:Jan 18, 2022 2:39 am

My next door neighbour told that while working at home her husband had found a cockroach in the kitchen. He was incensed and spent an hour or so cleaning the floors and the surfaces.

She said that tomorrow she would put it in the bathroom.
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Is Africa dying?
Posted:Apr 30, 2020 10:33 pm
Last Updated:Jan 18, 2022 2:40 am

I've looked at several clips Africa's situation at the moment. There's the locust plague across East Africa, food is running out.

In Zimbabwe there's no work, food is running out, no money left from corrupt governments. They've appealed the UN for aid but because of the previous corrupt government pocketing the aid money in the past for themselves they have been refused.

Food is running out in South Africa, they killed many farmers who knew how farm the land, food shortages was predicted just because of this when it was happening & now with the virus it's worse; police are forcing people indoors, even whipping that are playing in the streets go back inside their house that has no food. One African lady said she'd rather run roulette with the virus than face certain starvation, she needed go out and find food.

In another clip trucks full of food were not allowed across borders because the markets were closed, they had food but could not deliver it, it was rotting away in the back of the trucks. One lady farmer who grew and sold rice said she couldn't sell it. It wasn't being delivered, she couldn't get paid and so it goes, on and on the ripple effect.

People are desperate. In one clip Nigerian doctors were refusing to work because they were only getting between $3.00-$5.00 per day and it cost them more in transportation costs to get to work than what they were being paid. This is not good. At this point in time I can't see it ending well, I fear for Africa. They need our prayers.
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Pre, Mid or Post Trib?
Posted:Apr 8, 2020 8:48 am
Last Updated:Jan 18, 2022 2:41 am

You have Pre-Tribulational, Mid-Tribulational and Post-Tribulational positions.

Which one is it? I used to be pre-Tib because many were preaching it and had not studied it, but then I thought the antichrist would sign the treaty in the middle of the Tribulation and then we would know who he was and get whisked out, (1 Thes 4:16-17; 2 Thes 2:3).

So then I thought it was Mid-Trib because wouldn’t we know who the antichrist was then? The problem is I didn’t think about the timing of 1 Thes 4:16-17.

2 Thes 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the of perdition;

Another problem with Pre-Trib, Mid-Trib and Post-Trib is that no one knows the day nor the hour, so if the antichrist signed the treaty we'd be able to countdown the days. But if Scripture says no one will know the day nor the hour then that door is closed also. After the church age is over there's no indication that the church itself is raptured immediately, it just says the church age is over, He removes His Holy Spirit from the world (not from individuals) and ceases to convict the world of sin, then God deals again with Israel like He did in the Old Testament. Once the Holy Spirit is removed this will make the allowance for Jesus to return.

2 Thes 2 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only he who now restrains will do so until he is taken out of the way

1 Thes 4:16-17 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord

However there are a few verses that seem to indicate we go through the Tribulation but how can that be if we are to come back with Jesus at the end of the Tribulation?

Here are some verses that indicate we go through the Tribulation.

Mat 14:29-31 “But immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 And then the sign of the of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the of Man coming on the clouds of the sky with power and great glory. 31 And He will send forth His angels with a great trumpet and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other.

So this is saying after the Tribulation and so is this verse below

Rev 7:14 I said to him, “My lord, you know.” And he said to me, “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

These verses also say we go through the tribulation.

Rev 20:4-6 Then I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was given to them. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony of Jesus and because of the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received the mark on their forehead and on their hand; and they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. 5 The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were completed. This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy is the one who has a part in the first resurrection; over these the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with Him for a thousand years.

This verse also says that immediately AFTER the tribulation and sends His angels to gather the elect.

Mat 24:29-31 “But immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 And then the sign of the of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the of Man coming on the clouds of the sky with power and great glory. 31 And He will send forth His angels with a great trumpet and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other.

But we are not destined for God's wrath which comes on the world at the end of the Tribulation. However Satan has always persecuted Christians and Jews for millennia.

1 Thes 5:9 For God has not destined us for wrath, but for obtaining salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ

However we all return soon after because God's wrath is poured out upon the earth and Jesus comes back 'with His saints' to destroy the antichrist & the world's armies.

1 Thes 3:13 To the end he may stablish your hearts unblameable in holiness before God, even our Father, at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ with all his saints.

Conclusion: We go through most or all of the Tribulation but as God is about to pour out His wrath at the end we get taken up to be with the Lord and then come back with Him in victory.

For there is one resurrection for the righteous and one for the damned. Therefore both saved Jews and saved Gentiles have to be resurrected (1 Thes 4:16-17) at the same time which seems to be after the Tribulation.

What is your conclusion? Have I missed anything? If I have it must be proven by Scripture and I will accept it. I'm happy to learn.
End of the Age?
Posted:Mar 25, 2020 6:22 am
Last Updated:Jan 29, 2022 3:59 am

Around 1969 prayer was not allowed in schools, capital punishment was banned and abortion legalised allowing murderers live and the innocent die. Lately some branches of the so called church have compromised by allowing the gender thing infiltrate while the true church reels in horror at of this but sadly except for a few have for the most part been silent.

There's always been the odd disaster now and then but after 1969 there seems an increase in; drug use, Aids appeared, volcanic activity increased around the world. Tsunamis, the Chernobyl disaster then Fukushima after the earthquake, locusts in Russia and also going from Pakistan right across Africa with predictions of famine. Contravirus 19 is spreading. Iran released over 80,000 prisoners due the virus. This will crisis change the way society behaves around the world. We can blame China and wet markets for the virus and it may be true but the Bible has predicted these things will happen. The coutnries that have persecuted Israel are now facing big problems.

Wild weather around the world, drought in Australia then floods, wild weather in the Middle East etc. Plagues and pestilence was predicted over 2,000 years ago for the Last Days. I believe we are in the beginning of the End of the Age stage which is called 'the birth pangs' or the 'beginning of sorrows'. It is time for all who genuinely fear God look and unitedly lean Him as never before. There's always a 'remnant' that God helps survive in every age when judgement comes. We must make sure we are part of that remnant, if not the consequence is disastrous.

The whole world is affected now, city crowds, beaches, air travel, cruise ships, hospitality industry, sports, the workplace and the list goes on. Laws are coming into place that will give goverments even more power, they will probably remain even when the treat is gone and be modified to suit their own agenda in the future, this is a concern also.

Many years ago Billy Graham said, "If God doesnt judge Amercia He'll have to appologise to Sodom and Gomorah. That was a statement that got me thinking - but it's not only America.
We must realise God will not be mocked. He gives us time to change but if we dont He'll give us things to think about, things like the fragility of life, our mortality and eternity. Once our comfort zone and easy lifestyle is over and this new era goes into full swing people will have to make a choice, love God and their neighbour or just love themselves. Those that love the light will be brighter, those that love darkness will be darker.

The prediction that many will fall into apostacy has happened, the church cant meet anymore in large numbers. True believers will seek to teach and learn in their homes.

When, not if, persecution comes those who will stand will stand only if they know the Word of God.

This prophesy from Amos is something to ponder;
Amos 8: And they shall wander from sea sea, and from the north even the east, they shall run and fro seek the word of the Lord, and shall not find it.

Will the oil be in your lamp? Remember they were all sleeping when the Bridegroom came, that's food for thought.
What I've been up to lately
Posted:Aug 11, 2019 8:51 am
Last Updated:Dec 14, 2019 11:30 pm

The monthly men's I started with a coulpe of other guys is growing, we started with guys in March and it's now - and that's not all make it each time, there's always a few away which is normal in any . really surprised and very pleased our growth. We have 3 leaders myself included so this makes it an easier workload.

One of us will open with prayer and there's a meet and greet time, then a meal which we provide free, drinks are free also then we have a 'tool time' which anyone nominated can talk about and display their hobbies, or work stuff, it's a show and tell thing. After this we have a gospel message or teaching, then general , more coffee etc & wind up the night. Have had lots of positive feedback so we seem to be doing well.

Sometimes I go into the city and do a bible study with a couple of guys, one has a shop in the markets and we meet there, we do the study with customers coming and going as it's not too busy.

I've been doing a bit of visitation to people in hospital struggling with illness and I visit rest homes.

I am involved with a men's shed on Tuesdays.

making a home solar system of bits and pieces, camping in one room with solar so to speak, my study is running off batteries at night which run a laptop, sound system, modem, lights and I can calibrate a small of recycled batteries as well in the evenings to make the system bigger slowly. Have about 2kw storage so far and should have about 5.6kw when finished. My goal is to be able to run the fridge as well on the system in case there's a power out. The fringe benefit is I'll save as well on power but really after the knowing of how it all works. Using second hand recycled stuff is a challenge and I think I learn more doing it way as the extra problems ascociated with broaden my knowledge of electronics.

A year ago I didnt know anything about electronics but after meeting a guy who built a home solar system at the men's shed, he has shown me how to build mine and lots of other things as well, we've become good friends.

On top of all that involved with a protesting against the late term abortion laws as well as being in another that meets every second Friday morning for lonely pensioner locals that have no real social outlet. I have to organise the study stuff some evenings, practice music and occasionally play music with the Irish Club.

I have very little time for blogs now as so busy but enjoying life.
Men's group starting & named.
Posted:Feb 21, 2019 3:33 am
Last Updated:Feb 21, 2019 6:26 pm


Just getting back as I promised about letting you know the name of the men's group.

It's name is "Just Blokes" a neutral name that doesnt frighten off the unsaved, and our motto will be, Prov 27:17 "Iron sharpens iron, So one man sharpens another."

Thanks for all the suggestions, it is appreciated.
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Name for a Christian men's group?
Posted:Jan 16, 2019 3:58 am
Last Updated:Jan 26, 2020 7:12 am

We are having to fill out paperwork for hall hire soon and our group's name has to be on it. Names that are taken already are "Strong Men" & "Valiant Men" so I don't know if "Men of Strength" is too close to the first one or not? My suggested "Iron sharpens Iron" but I'm not sure what to put on the form. Anyone got some suggestions?
Topics for discussion at men's meeting
Posted:Jan 7, 2019 12:19 am
Last Updated:Mar 18, 2024 9:17 am

This is just some 'thought's on paper' so to speak about in an upcoming men's meeting, probably in a few months time. The feedback.will be interesting.

I said to a pastor recently to accept Jesus into your heart was unscriptural, he agreed and said but it was just a point of entry. He handed me a great line but no! So subtle but that is entry into the 'ism,' the denomination, it's not into Christ. Though a few may wend their way into Christ through His grace and guidance through this deception, it's not Scriptural. Nowhere in the Bible does Jesus say to ask Him into your heart. It's by faith alone in Christ alone, the gospel is repent, confess your sins and He is faithful and just to forgive our sins. The heart is deceitful and desperately wicked, you've got to come on His terms. Eph 1 & 2 talks about it's Christ alone, by Him. It's impertinent and presumptuous to think 'we allow Him in' as if it's ok by us. He comes when we repent.

Falsely telling people they are saved, then they have no power to overcome sin. "Oh, nobody's perfect." I hear the Mansion example, we are like a big house and God cleans out one room at a time, it's out of the pit, an excuse to keep holding onto favorite sins saying, "God hasn't got to that room yet, could take years." No, He comes in and shines His light on many things. Without holiness no man shall see God. (Heb 2:14) Wow. Something to think about.

We renew our mind. Trying to do move in the power of miracles and wonders without ever having overcome the power of sin. What spirit have you received? One of deception? Just as I am? No, you have to believe, have faith and repent first.

You must first believe, to have faith is to act on the belief, the action is repentance, turning from all sin, not just some. It's like power steering, power brakes, there's the power yes, but you must turn the wheel and press the brake, we must act before the Holy Spirit's power will help us. Sure sanctification is a lifetime journey, but beware of the "Hath God said?" in it, we have the power to overcome sin, we just have to understand how God changes us.

Are you silenced in your church? Can you not say anything unless you've been to their brand of bible college, been an 'intern' pastor, made to conform to the 'ism' from the man at the top down to you? The 'ism' will snuff out your flame, quench your fire.

Here you have a voice, orderly, in order, but you can have a voice. I'm not the pulpit person, we all are, no one is left out. No pastor / pew warmer, clergy / laity segregation here.

Have you been bursting with a testimony or word from God but have had it suppressed? Not here, though you'll learn 'brevity' for the sake of others. It's all about Jesus, it's all about your relationship with Jesus, not a church, that's secondary, this is true church - to be about Him and for all to be equal, no overlord pastors/shepherds, just a few 'elders' who are no greater than you and serve for free like Paul.

You will know who are true shepherds, wolves and hirelings, most are hirelings in the 'ism' church world. True shepherds protect the flock from the wolves. They expose them. Paul named names.

We are all equal, just different roles. The bride should not be about herself but about the bridegroom. Don't let your oil run out, they were friends of the bride, not the groom, He didn't know them. Do you feel something is missing in the church? Is Jesus is missing, is worldliness in? Is your church always loud? Why? It's hard to think, share, witness to new comers & listen with all that noise. In the sound of a gentle stillness is the still small voice. Can we be silent together? (I've come from Pentecostal background, that's why I've written this part and I'm tired of hype)

Men are the head of the home, the gate to their home, the door to what comes in. Just as the eyes are the window to the soul, we watch out and are careful what we choose to look at. Satan is trying to crush men with political correctness, feminism and government laws that are anti-man as far as family separations go, he is out to destroy through false marxist education, are not taught to think but follow the 'party line'. Do as they are told. How can they discern corruption? We as men have to warn our families and brothers. The great apostasy is upon us, we are in the age of Laodicea, the church has left its first love yet believes it's rich, but is poor, blind, miserable and naked. The lies that have crept into the church, New Age mysticism, W.O.F. N.A.R. Emergent church, co-exist. True Christians will be the enemy of this false 'unity'. Unity at the expense of the true Gospel of Christ. Their unity is antichrist. Fortunately there are pockets of small churches that still believe and are following Christ.

Bringing up your to be marriable, it's important.

Many men are not marrying, laws and government is against them, they've seen their fathers or father's friends lose their homes in divorce cases. Pre-nups are not legal, but a 'financial agreement' is. The government is the 'new boyfriend' who pays the bills for the woman & when the woman wants to move on. Sure there are some bad guys out there, but a lot of women become professional mothers to leech of the system so they don't have to work.

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