hubal and allah the Moon God?
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Posted:Mar 21, 2008 5:39 am
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Hubal and Allah the Moon God?
Islam: Truth or Myth? start page
Introduction to basic facts of history:
Moon worship has been practiced in Arabia since 2000 BC. The crescent moon is the most common symbol of this pagan moon worship as far back as 2000 BC.
In Mecca, there was a god named Hubal who was Lord of the Kabah.
This Hubal was a moon god.
One Muslim apologist confessed that the idol of moon god Hubal was placed upon the roof of the Kaba about 400 years before Muhammad.
This may in fact be the origin of why the crescent moon is on top of every minaret at the Kaba today and the central symbol of Islam atop of every mosque throughout the world:
About four hundred years before the birth of Muhammad one Amr bin Lahyo ... a descendant of Qahtan and king of Hijaz, had put an idol called Hubal on the roof of the Kaba. This was one of the chief deities of the Quraish before Islam. (Muhammad The Holy Prophet, Hafiz Ghulam Sarwar (Pakistan), p 18-19, Muslim)
The moon god was also referred to as "al-ilah". This is not a proper name of a single specific god, but a generic reference meaning "the god". Each local pagan Arab tribe would refer to their own local tribal pagan god as "al-ilah".
"al-ilah" was later shortened to Allah before Muhammad began promoting his new religion in 610 AD.
There is evidence that Hubal was referred to as "Allah".
When Muhammad came along, he dropped all references to the name "Hubal" but retained the generic "Allah".
Muhammad retained almost all the pagan rituals of the Arabs at the Kaba and redefined them in monotheistic terms.
Regardless of the specifics of the facts, it is clear that Islam is derived from paganism that once worshiped a moon-god.
Although Islam is today a monotheist religion, its roots are in paganism.
Hubal the moon god of the Kabah
Allah the moon god of the Kabah
Remnants of pagan Moon god worship in the Koran
Pre-Islamic Origin of the word Allah
Photogallery of the ancient history of Moon god worship
Modern usage of moon god symbols in Islam today.
The Bible condemns moon god worship
Islam is repackaged polytheism.
Islam is paganism in monotheistic wrapping paper.
Islam is veiled neo-polytheism.
Written by Brother Andrew
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allah
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Posted:Mar 21, 2008 5:22 am
Last Updated:May 10, 2024 11:19 am 503 Views
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"Allah, the Supreme Being of the Mussulmans: Before Islam. That the Arabs, before the time of Muhammed, accepted and worshipped, after a fashion, a supreme god called Allah,--"the Ilah, or the god, if the form is of genuine Arabic source; if of Aramaic, from Alaha, "the god"–seems absolutely certain.
Whether he was an abstraction or a development from some individual god, such as Hubal, need not here be considered...
But they also recognized and tended to worship more fervently and directly other strictly subordinate gods...It is certain that they regarded particular deities (mentioned in 1iii. 19-20 are al-‘Uzza, Manat or Manah, al-Lat’; some have interpreted vii, 179 as a reference to a perversion of Allah to Allat as daughters of Allah (vi. 100; xvi, 59; xxxvii, 149; 1iii, 21); they also asserted that he had sons (vi. 100)..."There was no god save Allah". This meant, for Muhammed and the Meccans, that of all the gods whom they worshipped, Allah was the only real deity. It took no account of the nature of God in the abstract, only of the personal position of Allah. ...ilah, the common noun from which Allah is probably derived..." (First Encyclopedia of Islam, E.J. Brill, 1987, Islam, p. 302)
Allah. Islamic name for God. Is derived from Semitic El, and [Allah] originally applied to the Moon; he [Allah] seems to have been preceded by Ilmaqah, the Moon-god. Allat is the female counterpart of Allah. (Everyman’s Dictionary of Non-Classical Mythology, Egerton Sykes, Godspeed, Allah)
The Bedouin's astral beliefs centred upon the moon, in whose light he grazed his flocks.
Moon-worship implies a pastoral society, whereas sun-worship represents a later agricultural stage. In our own day the Moslem Ruwalah Bedouins imagine that their life is regulated by the moon, which condenses the water vapours, distils the beneficent dew on the pasture and makes possible the growth of plants. On the other hand the sun, as they believe, would like to destroy the Bedouins as well as all animal and plant life. (History Of The Arabs, Philip K. Hitti, 1937, p 96-101)
There are stories in the Sira of pagan Meccan praying to Allah while standing beside the image of Hubal. (Muhammad's Mecca, W. Montgomery Watt, Chapter 3: Religion In Pre-Islamic Arabia, p26-45)
"The relation of this name, which in Babylonia and Assyrian became a generic term simply meaning ‘god’, to the Arabian Ilah familiar to us in the form Allah, which is compounded of al, the definite article, and Ilah by eliding the vowel ‘i’, is not clear. Some scholars trace the name to the South Arabian Ilah, a title of the Moon god, but this is a matter of antiquarian interest" (Islam, Alfred Guillaume, 1956, p 6-7)
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Amazing Quotes by Contemplatives
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Posted:Mar 20, 2008 7:44 pm
Last Updated:May 10, 2024 11:19 am 628 Views
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The Outcome of Practicing Contemplative Prayer
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Rick Warren
"With practice, you can develop the habit of praying silent 'breath prayers'"
Rick Warren, from his book (p. 299)
"se 'breath prayers' throughout the day, as many Christians have done for centuries. You choose a brief sentence or a simple phrase that can be repeated to Jesus in one breath."–Rick Warren,
Purpose-Driven Life, p. 89.
See more quotes by Warren
Ken Blanchard
"Does Buddha have anything to offer non-Buddhists in the workplace? My answer is a wholehearted, 'Yes.'–Ken Blanchard, co-author of the One Minute Manager, from the foreword and front cover of
What Would Buddha Do in the Workplace?
Bruce Wilkinson
"We have promoted an unbiblical message that becoming born-again is the answer to everything. It's not. It changes your eternity, but it doesn't change your sexual behaviour, for instance. The gospel does not always have the answer for modern-day dilemmas."
From Youth Specialties
"I built myself a prayer room–a tiny sanctuary in a basement closet filled with books on spiritual disciplines, contemplative prayer, and Christian mysticism. In that space I lit candles, burned incense, hung rosaries, and listened to tapes of Benedictine monks. I meditated for hours on words, images, and sounds. I reached the point of being able to achieve alpha brain patterns..."–Mike Perschon, Youth Specialties Magazine,
December 2004
"Choose a sacred word or phrase. Consistently use the same word throughout the prayer. Begin silently to repeat your sacred word or phrase"
Mark Yaconelli, Youth Specialties
National Pastor's Convention
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"Spiritual ecstasy. The third phase of contemplative prayer ... a supernatural trance state ..."
Charisma magazine, Oct. 2004
"Contemplative prayer is nothing other than coming into consciousness of what is already there."
Brennan Manning, Signature of Jesus
"Brennan (Manning) is my friend, walking ahead of me on the path toward home. As I watch him from behind, I am drawn to more closely follow on the path..."
Larry Crabb, endorsement of Abba's
"I began practicing meditation, specifically breath prayer, once again. I integrated the use of Tai Chi and yoga"
John Michael Talbot,
Interview with Christianity Today 10/22/2001
"Its [visualization] effect is to dissolve our internal barriers to natural harmony and self realization"
Shakti Gawain, Creative Visualization
"[Y]ou and I may have strong opinions on double predestination, supralapsarianism, and biblical inerrancy, but these should not be considered evangelical essentials."
Richard Foster
"We need to become aware of the Cosmic Christ, which means recognizing that every being has within it the light of Christ."
Matthew Fox
What works for me is a combination of disciplines: I do yoga, tai chi which is a Chinese martial art and three kinds of meditation–vipasana, transcendental and mantra (sound) meditation.
Jack Canfield,
Chicken Soup for the Soul
This quote sums it up–
"The contemplative life is often miserable. One must act more, think less, and not watch oneself live." Chamfort[1700s]
"When we go to the center of our being and pass through that center into the very center of God we get in immediate touch with this divine creating energy ... that the divine energy may have the freedom to forward the evolution of consciousness in us and through us, as a part of the whole, in the whole of the creation." –M. Basil Pennington
"Everyone is born a mystic and a lover who experiences the unity of things and all are called to keep this mystic or lover of life alive." -- Matthew Fox
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Contemplative Spirituality Comes to Modern Day Christianity
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Posted:Mar 20, 2008 7:42 pm
Last Updated:Mar 23, 2008 3:26 am 784 Views
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Contemplative Spirituality: A belief system that uses ancient mystical practices to induce altered states of consciousness (the silence) and is rooted in mysticism and the occult but is often wrapped in Christian terminology. The premise of contemplative spirituality is pantheistic (God is all) and panentheistic (God is in all).
How did this non-biblical practice enter the evangelical church?
In the mid-seventies three monks wanted to bring contemplative prayer to Christianity. This is how they did it.»
"They invited to the abbey ecumenically oriented Catholic theologians, an Eastern Zen master, Joshu Roshi Sasaki, who offered week long retreats on Buddhist meditation, and a former Trappist, Paul Marechal, who taught transcendental meditation.
The interaction between these Christian monks and practitioners of Eastern meditation helped distill the practice of Christian contemplative prayer into a form that could be easily practiced by a diverse array of "non-monastic" believers: priests, nuns, brothers and lay men and women." by Joseph G. Sandman (America Magazine 9/9/00)
Buddhism: Doorway to Contemplative Spirituality
Amazing Quotes by Contemplatives
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Tithing Today:God's Plan or Designs of Man?
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Posted:Mar 20, 2008 4:23 pm
Last Updated:Mar 20, 2008 4:36 pm 721 Views
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Tyler S. Ramey
God's Plan or Designs of Man?
The Offensive Nature of Truth
Truth often offends those who believe they already have it. Keep this in mind as you read this exposé. It's not uncommon for those who believe they already know what the Bible teaches about a given subject to be offended (sometimes even angered) about an alternative. Challenging certain teachings that have been accepted as true tends to be agitating. This is sometimes true of many Christian leaders--in virtually any capacity--who generally don't appreciate challenges (cordial or otherwise) to doctrines they sincerely believe and have taught for years. Thankfully, sincerity and time have no effect on scriptural truths. Keep in mind that with regard to all matters of faith and practice the only standard for believers is the Bible.
Some Words About Tradition
Because certain practices have grown to reflect man-made traditions instead of biblical truths, it is important to remember that tradition is good only when it complements Scripture. The old saying: "What's popular isn't always right; what's right isn't always popular" is appropriate here. For many, the subject of tithing is sensitive, hotly contested, and deeply passionate. It is, therefore, important to remember that what we strive for in this endeavor is scriptural truth.
Ground Rules
The ground rules for this study are quite simple. Basic rules of biblical interpretation [1] (the plain meaning of Scripture) [2] is utilized in this work to examine the most common scriptures used to defend modern teaching. If the reader would like to learn about biblical interpretation, a few helpful books are worth mentioning. How to Read the Bible for all its Worth by Gordon Fee and Douglas Stuart, Protestant Biblical Interpretation by Bernard Ramm, and An Introduction to Biblical Hermeneutics by Walter Kaiser and Moisé Silva are excellent resources. Fee and Stuart's text is an excellent primer on biblical interpretation, Ramm's work is a time-tested introduction used at seminary level as is the text by Kaiser and Silva.
Scriptural Gymnastics
The interesting things that are done to scriptures commonly used to support a "thou shalt tithe" doctrine are actually quite abusive. These abuses stem from either an ignorance of basic interpretive rules, or a perceived need to manipulate people. I'm sympathetic to the ignorance that often comes with tithing doctrines but not the outright deceit that comes with manipulation. Manipulating people into following modern tithing doctrines seems to be motivated or inspired by one or more of the following: 1) greed; 2) the financial obligations or poor management of a given church or ministry; 3) the pride, ego, or need for recognition of the teacher (usually a pastor), e.g., the "kingdom building" sometimes associated with bigger buildings and flashy programs, and; 4) misplaced faith, i.e., faith in money or faith in a clever teaching to accomplish certain goals rather than faith in God.
Adjusting Causes Agitation
One thing that seems common regarding the matter of tithing is that people who have been manipulated into following modern teachings have the most difficult time adjusting to biblically liberated stewardship. This is generally because they have been manipulated or persuaded into believing something that has no scriptural support. Sadly, the manipulation or persuasion often comes from people they respect who utilize poor Bible interpretation, and weak--but sometimes clever--arguments. Incidentally, those who have been truly manipulated into practicing a tithing doctrine won't know they've been misled, but if they come to realize it, sometimes anger results. This is understandable.
Let's begin our "journey to liberated stewardship" with a definition and history of tithing; then, we'll examine the most common arguments used to defend modern practice.
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Not looking good for Joyce Meyer
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Posted:Mar 20, 2008 4:12 pm
Last Updated:Mar 20, 2008 7:21 pm 850 Views
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Meyer's "Trusted" Board
For the most part, Meyer can spend the ministry's money any way she sees fit because her board of directors is handpicked.
It consists of Meyer, her husband and all four of her – all paid workers – as well as six of Meyer's closest friends. (Ministry officials said that Laura Holtzmann has now resigned; state records still list her on the board.) "Our family is a huge help to us," Meyer said. "We couldn't do this if we didn't have somebody we trusted."
Board members Roxane and Paul Schermann are such close friends that for more than a decade they lived in the Meyers' home. The ministry employed both of them as high-level managers and in 2001 bought them a $334,000 home.
Roxane Schermann no longer works at the ministry; her husband continues as a paid division manager. The Schermanns bought the house at the same price from the ministry in January. Delanie Trusty, the ministry's certified public accountant, also serves as the ministry board's secretary.
The board decides how the ministry's money is spent. The salaries of Meyer and her family are set by those board members who are not family members and are not employed by the ministry, Meyer's lawyer said. The arrangement meets IRS regulations, the lawyer said.
"We certainly wouldn't have enemies and people we don't know" on the board, Meyer said. "That wouldn't make any sense. Anybody who has a board is going to have people in favor of you."
Meyer and her ministry refuse to tell how much the ministry pays Meyer, her husband, her and her 's spouses. "I don't make any more than I'm worth," Meyer said. "We're definitely within IRS guidelines."
Such an overlap between top administrators and board members concerns the IRS because "the opportunity to manipulate and control the organization is easier to accomplish," said Bruce Philipson of St. Paul, Minn., the IRS group manager of tax-exempt organizations for this region. (Carolyn Tuft and Bill Smith St. Louis Post-Dispatch 11/15/2003)
The Investigation: In November 2007 Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa [Senate Finance Committee] launched a an investigation into the financial dealings of six TV evangelists, including Joyce Meyer. His staff has asked Meyer to provide documents detailing the finances of the Joyce Meyer Ministries, including the religious group's compensation to Meyer, her husband and other family members, as well as an accounting of their housing allowances, gifts and credit card statements for the last several years. Five other ministries are also being investigated
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Benny Hinn's Strange Visitors .......
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Posted:Mar 20, 2008 3:57 pm
Last Updated:Mar 26, 2008 10:40 am 899 Views
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By Jackie Alnor
Visions and Revelation Knowledge of Benny Hinn
In a typical visit to the Praise the Lord program on the Trinity Broadcasting Network (TBN), pastor and faith-healer, Benny Hinn, related a series of strange occurrences to which he credited the Holy Spirit that aired on TBN February 11, 1992.
Hinn is such a popular guest on the Praise the Lord program that TBN has had to stop announcing his visits in advance because the studio cannot contain all the people who come out to the tapings. (An explanation for such a phenomenon can be found in 2 Timothy 4:3-4.)
On the show, host Paul Crouch set the course by asking Benny to relate some of his supernatural experiences. "Late at night, two or three in the morning… many times I would feel someone almost wake me up… I would literally see forms of angels appear in my bedroom… I saw them in different shapes… I actually saw little ones about the size of little boys," Hinn said in a hushed tone.
"One afternoon," he continued, "I saw a man in my bedroom… he was wrapped in fire… He was standing about this high off the floor [motions about one foot up with hand]. His feet never touch the floor, he was wrapped in fire. I screamed, Paul, screamed loud, visibly screamed."
"I don’t blame you!" whispered Paul. Hinn continued to explain in graphic detail how the man on fire tried to beat the flames away. The whole time Benny was terrified. When Benny asked God why, an audible voice came back saying, "Preach the Gospel!"
Later that same night, Benny had a visitor come into his bedroom and while Benny fell deep into a trance, the being (described as blonde-haired, wearing a thick belt and holding a chain in his hand) grabbed Benny by the arm and said, "come with me." "He never said anything else, but ‘come with me,’" Hinn said. Then the angel opened a massive door with the chain attached to the heavens that revealed a multitude of people moving toward a deep valley, pushing each other forward. Those in the front of the line were being shoved into a valley of liquid fire.
"And the angel said to me, ‘if you don’t preach God will count you responsible,’" Hinn said, adding that, "when the Holy Spirit shows up supernatural things happen."
Other highlights of the program included Benny defending blowing on people in his services. [Hinn practices this twist for slaying people in the spirit ‒ a questionable custom used by faith healers usually with the laying on of hands.] "But Jesus put mud on that fellow’s eyes once… He spit on a guy’s tongue once," Hinn said in his defense.
"[Jesus] breathed upon them and said receive thee the Holy Spirit," Crouch added. "But you know they’ll always be somebody who has to criticize."
What they don’t seem to understand, however, is that Jesus is God and the giver of the Holy Spirit. He is also our Creator who made us from the clay of the earth, and so demonstrated that fact by making the clay with His spit. How can Benny attribute such power to himself? To do so is nothing short of blasphemy!
Hinn also explained why he has to have "catchers" stand behind the people who fall at his services. "The reason we have catchers is not for those who fall," said Hinn, "it’s for those who don’t fall… You see some think they have to fall to get it so they fall and they can hurt themselves."
"If they’re doing it in the flesh," said Crouch. "Some people just keel themselves over, don’t they?"
[No doubt this conversation was for the benefit of those who’ve read in the newspapers how Benny was sued for the death of a woman in one of his services when someone fell on her "under the power." Her injury resulted in death.]
The next segment of the show was dedicated to denouncing the news media for exposing televangelists. Crouch referred to Prime Time as "Slime Time," calling their expose "persecution." He directed threats against reporter Diane Sawyer.
"It isn’t just the world," said Hinn. "It’s also these Pharisees on the side who are helping the world."
"I call them heretic hunters," Crouch seethed. "Those that kill you some day will think they have done a service!"
Hinn’s wife, Suzanne, then came onto the set. She related an unsubstantiated story about Pastor Tommy Reid who, while preaching in the Philippines, was bothered by a heckler in the audience who was saying this was not of the Lord. When a sick man was healed in the service, the heckler became stricken with the same disease the man was healed of.
"Some of these people better watch out," warned Suzanne, "because the fear of God is gonna come down on the body of Christ and some of these people are going to come down with the same things they’ve been talking about."
This kind of fear, however, is not the kind of fear of the Lord that the Bible speaks of. The kind of fear the Hinns and Crouches are trying to lay upon Christians is that God will strike dead anyone who questions them and their odd practices. This dishonors God and misrepresents His nature. This false teaching is, however, expedient to those who are bringing leaven into the church. That’s in sharp contrast to the biblical promise that "God has not given us the spirit of fear, but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind" (2 Tim. 1 ).
The program was topped off with a defense of the Catholic doctrine of "Transubstantiation" ‒ the belief that the communion wafer and wine become the literal flesh, blood, and divinity of Jesus Christ.
Hinn related a story of how he was visiting a Catholic convent and a nun invited him to visit her chapel where she had a tabernacle holding the communion elements (Eucharist). She knelt down and began to pray and Hinn, reluctant at first, joined her only to find that the anointing he was so familiar with was present in the room.
Hinn said that God told him that it’s a matter of faith, not doctrine. God said, "To her I’m in the elements, to you I’m in the room, but to Me I’m still here."
"In other words," Hinn said, "according to your faith be it done unto you… You know what I think? I don’t think He cares!"
"He’s in both!" Crouch said. "He’s in everything… But see the heretic hunters get in there and we argue over the doctrine of transubstantiation and all over this garbage… The letter kills!"
"It’s faith that matters," Hinn pontificated. "I think what He did is… He took his flesh in a sense, and turned it into bread which is the most common food… So He made his body become bread," surmised Crouch.
"But, Paul, when we take this bread we are eating the body of Jesus," Benny reiterated. "Yes," whispered Crouch.
This off-the-cuff theology denies the very core of the Reformation and tramples the blood of the reformers who died denying this false doctrine.
The irony is that Crouch, who boasts that he is a direct descendant of the reformer, Huldreich Zwingli, would today brand Zwingli a "heresy hunter" if he were alive today. Zwingli emphasized the biblical teaching that the Lord’s supper was memorial in its character, and denied the bodily presence of Christ in the elements.
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Satan or Soul? You tell me.......
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Posted:Mar 20, 2008 3:23 pm
Last Updated:Mar 20, 2008 7:39 pm 730 Views
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So many people always seem to want to say that everytime something aparently goes awry that its always satan at work and we have to come against him.
Body, Soul and Spirit. Thats what we as people are made of.
Body is our outer shell
Soul is made up of our mind, emotions and will
Spirit is our eternal being formed in God's likeness. It is always in agreement with God
The word says that we have the mind of Christ as a born again believer.
The word says satan has no authority over us as a believer because of the finished work on the cross of Jesus Christ.
does satan have authority over non-born again believers? Yes he does.
We battle our soul. Is our will submissive to the will of God.
Do we allow our emotions to lead us or do we trust in God? That is a battle too.
We battle our flesh. Our mind against the mind of christ which is the spiritual mind that we have.
We need to get away from ourselves.
So when God asks you why you did something wrong are you gonna say it was that nasty satan daddy and break down crying like a does when they are confronted about what they do?
Lets get real
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Its a shame they do not allow links in blogging
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Posted:Mar 20, 2008 5:23 am
Last Updated:May 10, 2024 11:19 am 647 Views
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It would make blogging here much easier. I know they want to be able to restrict people from exchanging personal info unless they are paying accounts.
The truth is if people want to bad enough, other people pass on info that are paying. You can also meet people over the friendfinder messenger. So who is fooling who?
Putting up links would save room and make things much easier. All that would need to happen is it being cleared before it is put up and they use filters now from what I understand.
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The Mark of the Beast.... back then
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Posted:Mar 20, 2008 4:44 am
Last Updated:Mar 20, 2008 5:12 am 664 Views
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It says all those who follow the beast, they are given the mark of the beast, and this mark is 666. What is 6? 7 is the number of fullness, and normally it speaks of God, His fullness and perfection. 6 is certainly the number of man. The day on which man was created ‒ Day number 6. Man who never quite made it to fullness in God. We never reach God’s rest day of 7 except in Christ.
On the coins of the Roman world was the Emperor, with references to his divinity. The early Christians called this the "mark of the beast," and would not handle such coins, and so were excluded from buying and selling, unless they accepted the mark of the beast. Firstly they accepted the mark in their heads, in their thinking, and then they accepted the mark in their hand.
~ A N
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