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apostle2day 82M
1406 posts
9/1/2007 10:13 am
If they found Jesus' body...what would that do to your faith ?


This guy has some interesting views, and is partially correct theologically. OTOH, Jesus did rise from the dead in the same, but 'glorified' spiritual and physical body, for He was and is a spirit being too...and much more, as we believers know. The ascension into heaven term could well be misconstrued, ever since back then. We can ascend within also. That's what Jesus meant and said....'the kingdom of heaven is within you'.

Some of you won't like this areticle at all, while others might get something from it:

Finding Jesus' body OK by me
By Michael E. Tymn

In a 2001 movie, "The Body," the bones of Jesus were supposedly discovered by an archeologist in a tomb in Jerusalem. A Vatican priest was dispatched to investigate and concluded that the body was indeed that of Jesus of Nazareth, of Joseph. He was so shattered by the finding that he lost all faith and committed suicide.

And now we have a real claim being made by "Titanic" filmmaker James Cameron that the tomb of Jesus has been found. Cameron called the evidence compelling.

Fifty years ago, when I was a Catholic, the story might have caused me some concern. Forty years ago, when I was an admirer of the Rev. Billy Graham, the foundations of my faith would have been shaken at least a little, although I would have curled my nose and called the story a hoax.

Today, however, even if scientists happened to link up the DNA in the bones found in the tomb with blood residue found on the Shroud of Turin, it wouldn't affect my faith in Christ in the least. In fact, I would rejoice at the news. That's because my brand of Christianity rejects any literal interpretation given to a physical body rising from the dead, either by Jesus, or by the masses on some far-off day of resurrection.

Paul said in the 15th chapter of 1 Corinthians that the body that has to be "raised" is not the body that was buried. He used the analogy of a grain of wheat, pointing out that the grain of wheat that is planted is not the grain of wheat that is raised. Of course, like so many other things in the Bible, there can be so many self-serving interpretations.

My faith today is based on psychical research. Such research in the area of the near-death experience strongly suggests that we all have an etheric body that separates from the physical body at the time of death and vibrates so far beyond the physical shell that it is not seen by ordinary eyes. That etheric body has also been referred to as an astral body, spirit body, celestial body, soul and higher self, although these terms are also sometimes given different interpretations.

These and other out-of-body research also suggests a "silver cord" connecting the etheric to the physical body, sort of a counterpart of the umbilical cord. Once that cord is severed, physical death is complete. While undergoing some aspects of dying and death, the near-death experiencer does not feel complete severance of the cord and thus is able to return and tell of encounters with celestial beings.

Ecclesiastes 12:6-7: "Or ever the silver cord be loosed, or the golden bowl be broken, or the pitcher be broken at the fountain, or the wheel broken at the cistern. Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it."

Concomitant with the belief that the physical shell is resurrected is a belief in "soul sleep." However, here again, we run into assumptions that the word "sleep," as used 54 times in the Old Testament and 18 times in the New Testament, should be interpreted to mean total unconsciousness. Indeed, modern psychical research suggests that we awaken on the "other side" in degrees of consciousness equal to the degrees of spirituality achieved in the earthly life. The benevolent and enlightened soul will experience no real "sleep," while the depraved and unenlightened soul may be so unconscious as to not realize he or she is even "dead" and may require years in earth time to regain consciousness, perhaps experiencing a "fire of the mind" while attempting to regain true consciousness.

So why should Christianity fear the discovery of the bones of Jesus? Credible scientific research has revealed that it has absolutely no bearing on the great message of soul immortality that he came to give.
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Michael E. Tymn, a Kailua resident, is vice president of the Academy of Spirituality and Paranormal Studies Inc. and contributor to metaphysical magazines and journals.

Dundeal
(William Watson)
67M
18097 posts
9/1/2007 11:40 am

if they found His body then there is no reason for me to go to church anymore, but i don't have to worry about that happening, but somebody will try to do it as a hoax i am sure, cheers

May the Lord bless you and keep you


apostle2day replies on 9/1/2007 12:42 pm:
...it wouldn't faze me one iota. I know the Lord is real. I'm beyond guessing, PTL !

thanks.....

dianessw
(diane y)
77F
96 posts
9/1/2007 3:31 pm

When Jesus rose it was with his physical body otherwise the gospels would not tell us about the body being missing. The disciples did not see a ghost or mere spirit body. They literally saw his body and Thomas was able to feel his wounds. This only happened once in history so we are not talking about what happens to our spirits and bodies when we die, but what happened to Jesus. If Jesus did not literally rise from the dead then the Bible lies and everything we believe in is based on lies just as we can not believe that Jesus was a prophet but not the messiah. Jesus repeatedly stated that he was the son of God. If we disbelieve that we make him out to be a liar and can't believe onything he says.

Since Jesus body did arise and was ascended into heaven it will be impossible to find a body in a grave.


apostle2day replies on 9/2/2007 4:01 am:
Thanks for your views !

Italian_sister
(Pat I)
70F
1788 posts
9/1/2007 6:55 pm

    Quoting busykydad:
    These stories are of Satan trying to dispel the belief in the risen Savior. My faith will not be affected if someone claims to find His bones - because it will be another lie from the pits of hell! I know that I know that I know MY REDEEMER LIVES - I just spoke to Him this morning (thank you Nicole Mullins for those wonderful words!)
My thoughts exactly!