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God DOESNT love everyone! He HATES wicked people! Dont believe me? What is a wicked person? Read proverbs 6:12-19 .... Psalm 64 ... Oppressed by the Wicked but Rejoicing in the Lord .... AND Psalm 58 ... The Just Judgement of the Wicked ...The wicked are estranged from the womb; They go astray as soon as they are born, speaking lies. .... Psalm 59 ... The Assured Judgement of the Wicked ...FOR the sin of their mouth AND the words of their lips, let them even be taken in their pride, AND for the cursing and lying which they speak .... Slander: A false report maliciously uttered .... Defame: To accuse falsely and maliciously .... I have done nothing BUT tell the truth on this site and unfortunatly due to a distinct lack of discernment, people would rather believe lies .... Am I upsetting any one, I dont care, I care what God thinks of me and knowing how much He loves truth, I will keep being honest and tell the truth! |
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This is true but ecumenical people adhere too a different gospel. They think that God loves every one...no...God loves his sheep. Jesus atonement was for the sheep only. Jhn 10:15-30 I am the good shepherd, and know my [sheep], and am known of mine. As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep. And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, [and] one shepherd. Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father. There was a division therefore again among the Jews for these sayings. And many of them said, He hath a devil, and is mad; why hear ye him? Others said, These are not the words of him that hath a devil. Can a devil open the eyes of the blind? And it was at Jerusalem the feast of the dedication, and it was winter. And Jesus walked in the temple in Solomon's porch. Then came the Jews round about him, and said unto him, How long dost thou make us to doubt? If thou be the Christ, tell us plainly. Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me. But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any [man] pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave [them] me, is greater than all; and no [man] is able to pluck [them] out of my Father's hand. I and [my] Father are one. Isaiah 42:8 " I am the Lord; that is my name! And My glory I will not give to another, nor My praise to graven images."
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This is true but ecumenical people adhere too a different gospel. They think that God loves every one...no...God loves his sheep. Jesus atonement was for the sheep only. Jhn 10:15-30 I am the good shepherd, and know my [sheep], and am known of mine. As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep. And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, [and] one shepherd. Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father. There was a division therefore again among the Jews for these sayings. And many of them said, He hath a devil, and is mad; why hear ye him? Others said, These are not the words of him that hath a devil. Can a devil open the eyes of the blind? And it was at Jerusalem the feast of the dedication, and it was winter. And Jesus walked in the temple in Solomon's porch. Then came the Jews round about him, and said unto him, How long dost thou make us to doubt? If thou be the Christ, tell us plainly. Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me. But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any [man] pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave [them] me, is greater than all; and no [man] is able to pluck [them] out of my Father's hand. I and [my] Father are one. 
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Love the sinner, Hate the sin. I do believe that God loves everyone. He most definitly doesn't love the sin, but He loves the sinner and never leaves us even when and if we leave Him. Well, that's what I believe anyway and it get's me thru the day. Knowing and praying for someone even thru the worst times. * Sin is sin. Careful what comes across your lips & out your finger tips!!! * We are all the Body of Christ. Let's treat each other as such, with the same respect we give to HIM!! * Relationship advice: DO NOT make someone a PRIORITY, when they ONLY make you an OPTION!! * A woman's heart should be so lost in God, that a man has to seek HIM in order to find her!!
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Love the sinner, Hate the sin. I do believe that God loves everyone. He most definitly doesn't love the sin, but He loves the sinner and never leaves us even when and if we leave Him. Well, that's what I believe anyway and it get's me thru the day. Knowing and praying for someone even thru the worst times.
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10/20/2008 2:40 am |
"God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son..." {John 3v16} "There is one God and one mediator between God and man, the man Christ Jesus, who gave himself as a ransom for all men..." {2 Timothy 2v6} "We have put our hope in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, and especially of those who believe" {2 Timothy 4v10} So it would seem that according to the Scriptures, GOD DOES LOVE EVERYBODY and Jesus' atonement WAS for everybody, not just those who choose to take advantage of it. Peter  "Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a workman who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth" 2 Timothy 2 v 15
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I agree Noah...that was the verse that came to mind while reading this; John 3:16. None of us has a corner on salvation or His love...it is His undeserved gift to all of us. We are also told to go into all the world and preach the good news to all creation...why...because God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten son. That love and redemption is the crux of the Christian faith. And if that is what is important to God then we should live our lives in such a way as to show that to others...it's all about Him, not us. He is no fool if he should choose to lose the things he cannot keep to gain what he can never lose.....Jim Elliott Deena 
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I am only quoting Gods word, if you have a problem with His word, take it up with Him, amen! God bless you all for your comments ...
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Romans 5:8 "But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were STILL sinners, Christ died for us. Since se have now been justified by his blood, how much more shall we be saved from God's wrath through him! For if, where were God's enemies, we were reconciled to him through the death of his Son, how much more, having been reconciled, shall we be saved through his life. Not only is this so, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation." He loved us while we were STILL sinners...enough to sacrifice His only Son for us. Not many here would sacrifice their son for even someone they loved...yet He did for us...wicked sinners...and in so doing demonstrated His love for wicked sinners. He is no fool if he should choose to lose the things he cannot keep to gain what he can never lose.....Jim Elliott Deena
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You know, that answers some questions I've had before the Lord lately. I see people who I have ministered to and given everything to, sang to, take it on and claim to be christian, go to church, have bibles, but they are not! I know by their actions they are not, there is no change. I KNOW when God comes in there is change, it is inevitable, it is the evidence of salvation, changed lives! And I have thought how can that be, but the revelation I'm having right now is this. You cannot TAKE salvation, it is a gift and can only be given by God! I've actually apologised to God for bringing these people into the church, they do so much harm! God really does come for His own, I experienced it personally! We are called to give the good news of salvation, but it is only for those who believe in Him, really believe in Him! God talks about the lost, we are told to go out and minister to the lost. Ok this is getting too deep, I have to retreat and think on these things. I have a theory that has been forming in my mind for a while now. If God knew us before we were formed in our mothers wombs, we MUST have known Him! God created the earth for us, WHY? Satan is the ruler of this earth, why did He want us to live here? My theory is this... ready for it, it's radical! We are part of those who were banished with satan from heaven, but God is giving us the opportunity to come back to Him, renounce satan and turn back to Him! We are the lost sheep of Israel, you can only return to what you already knew! You can only be redeemed by your Redeemer! Am I making any sense? I am a thinker and I read the word everyday and there is so much in there,a lot of people dont really read it, they just skim over and stick with the familiar, I like answers, I like to go deeper. I WANT to know, amen!
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God comes for His own according to Ezek 34: 11- 31 ... and also Ezek 11:14 -25
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Romans 5:8 "But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were STILL sinners, Christ died for us. Since se have now been justified by his blood, how much more shall we be saved from God's wrath through him! For if, where were God's enemies, we were reconciled to him through the death of his Son, how much more, having been reconciled, shall we be saved through his life. Not only is this so, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation." He loved us while we were STILL sinners...enough to sacrifice His only Son for us. Not many here would sacrifice their son for even someone they loved...yet He did for us...wicked sinners...and in so doing demonstrated His love for wicked sinners.
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Perhaps I should have said it was a thought rather than a theory, but there is a scripture, think its Gen 5 about sons of God mating with the daughters of men? I'll go check my bible ... ( back in 5 ) ...it's in 6 .. I still wonder why God created the earth and satan is ruler and we have to live here, why? Years ago, when life wasnt so good, I used to think in terms of "doing life" ... then I got hold of scripture, Job and Joseph, then I had hope and still have for the future, amen.. I can fit God and the universe in my mind but then I think, ok, so where is all that anyway, what is that, maybe it's my human state to think of boundaries, but even if it is all just ether and spirit, where is it and why and how! I am looking forward to "knowing" when I get to heaven! I think wondering about things like this, is for one, sobering and also humbling, dont you?
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