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Dear RockyG I saw your comment on my blog and thanks a lot for visiting. You asked me: 1. do you accept Jesus as your personal Savior and love Him with all your heart and soul? 2. do you believe the Bible is the Word of God and follow it's teachings and directives? Absolutely, positively, most assuredly - YES to these two questions. I released all condemnation and unforgiveness in my heart according to the last command of Christ. Love one another as I have loved you. Well, I do. I cannot subscribe to the theology of others that there are some who deserve to go to hell, we all do. If we are depending on how good we are to make it, not one of us will. If we love our enemy then we cannot even speak a word of condemnation against them. Jesus died for the sinners, so that means everyone qualifies, not just a select few. God is in control, Jesus stole the keys of hell, death and the grave and set the prisoners free. I am of the same mind as Joshua, while others say the enemy cannot be defeated; I see only complete and total VICTORY. The bad news is wrong. The devil is a liar, a deceiver, and a loser. He is utterly and completely defeated. He has no power beside God, but somehow many believe he is actually gonna win this battle. Whatever happened to walking by faith and not by sight? Why give satan any glory, even worse it is the same as worshipping a false god? I am accused of following the devil, by those who are too blind to see that they are doing the very thing they accuse me of. I have said enough already, but I have to add just one last word. I stand on the side of total victory, nothing less than 100% God is Lord of ALL - in heaven, on the earth and under the earth. Even if we make our bed in hell still there He would find us. Nothing is hidden from God, there is nowhere we can go from His presence. To the pure all things are pure. Father, forgive them for they know not what they do. |
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Do you believe that nobody is going to hell? that is what I understood you to believe from something you said at another post? but going by what you have said here I am led to believe that only those who believe in Jesus Christ will be going to Heaven..and is that not a select few compared to those who don't..please sort out my understandings on this matter as Christ's honour is at stake here
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7/6/2006 1:37 pm |
Do you believe that nobody is going to hell? that is what I understood you to believe from something you said at another post? but going by what you have said here I am led to believe that only those who believe in Jesus Christ will be going to Heaven..and is that not a select few compared to those who don't..please sort out my understandings on this matter as Christ's honour is at stake here You told Rocky that you agree with question #2 How can that be when you deny that all will not make it to Heaven. Matthew 7:21-23 "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?' Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'" This is Jesus speaking and you are calling Him a liar! What part of "Many will say to me on that day" don't you understand? You are preaching a false doctrine plain and simple! You have led on of my friends astray already and you will pay for it in the end!
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7/6/2006 1:55 pm |
Hi Anita Well I have know idea about the last conversation you had about hell or heaven but I totally agree with you here sister  Victory is ours...he did all! You are right when you say nothing is hidden from God. This is so true that no one can go any place that the Lord can not follow you there. There were times I was going through some tough trials and tribulations and wanted to go hide under a rock but I just knew the Lord would come find me and tell be to take authority over the situation. So me and him walked out the trials a tribulations together getting total victory. Hallelujah!!!Amen   Blessings.....Israel
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I hope Anita is correct!! What she says makes sense to me. Why should one drop of JESUS blood be wasted. If GOD wants to have a total victory and take everyone to heaven well... HE is GOD and HE can do whatever HE wants to do. what a wonderfully Awesome Merciful GOD we serve!! how could i not praise HIM!!
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7/6/2006 2:07 pm |
Neet you say; Father, forgive them for they know not what they do. I say; Father God please forgive Neet and lead her to your throne,place her on her knees before you and instruct her as to Your ways. She has read Your word and chooses the garden path that leads to damnation. Only You Father can reach her now. I say these things in the name of Your Son Jesus Christ. Amen
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Robyn, I'm not so sure JESUS would use such hateful words
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7/6/2006 3:18 pm |
Robyn, I'm not so sure JESUS would use such hateful words
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Okay, Caroline, Robyn, Prodical have you really studied the life and words of Christ, I mean really, truly? You claim that the majority of people will be lost because of the hold that the devil has on them, what kind of faith is that? Just take a careful look at these statistics and then tell me if you think with God all things are possible: Mat 10 : 1 Jesus gave His twelve disciples, power to remove unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease. Mar 1 : 27 And they were all amazed, insomuch that they questioned among themselves, saying, What thing is this? what new doctrine is this? for with authority commandeth he even the unclean spirits, and they do obey him. Mar 3 : 11 And unclean spirits, when they saw him, fell down before him, and cried, saying, Thou art the Son of God. Mar 5 : 13 And forthwith Jesus gave them leave. And the unclean spirits went out, and entered into the swine: and the herd ran violently down a steep place into the sea, (they were about two thousand and were choked in the sea. Mar 6 : 7 And he called [unto him] the twelve, and began to send them forth by two and two; and gave them power over unclean spirits; Luk 4 : 36 And they were all amazed, and spake among themselves, saying, What a word [is] this! for with authority and power he commandeth the unclean spirits, and they come out. Luk 6 : 18 And they that were vexed with unclean spirits: and they were healed. Act 5 : 16 There came also a multitude [out] of the cities round about unto Jerusalem, bringing sick folks, and them which were vexed with unclean spirits: and they were healed every one. Act 8 : 7 For unclean spirits, crying with loud voice, came out of many that were possessed [with them]: and many taken with palsies, and that were lame, were healed. Not only do unclean spirits and demons obey His command, but look at Mark 4 : 41 Even the wind and the sea obey him. We see that every spirit is under His command, a lot of these people He delivered weren't even capable of calling on His name because they were so bound by them. But He cast them out every demon fled at His command. Now, let's go find all the scriptures where He refused to cast one out or tryed and failed. Oooops, can't - there's not one. To Him was given all authority over every living thing in heaven, on earth and even below the earth. That through His name every knee shall bow, every tongue confess that He is Lord of all creation. He has taken captivity captive and destroyed every work of the devil. It takes no faith to believe He came to save the world and failed, but it takes exceeding faith to trust that He can and will accomplish what God purposed in the redemption of mankind. And Prodical, that scripture you quoted, that applies to you my friend if you keep carrying a form of godliness but deny the power thereof, Jesus wants us to be 100% sold out to faith in him and your vain threats only reveal what great faith you have in the devil. You give him power by believing his dirty lies and trying to force others to follow you while you lift him up in glory for having overcome God's will. Sorry brother, I am really praying for you. I mean that, really I am. I love you, I love all of you, why else would I put my neck on the block every time I confess that Jesus will not be robbed or mocked. Be blessed, and feel free to pray for me all you like, please, also pray and ask God what is the truth, don't just take my word for it. You too may hear those words God said to me in my closet when I purified my heart of unforgiveness, those words every creature longs to hear, "well done my child". Be a good and faithful servant, and become a child, for the servant knows not what the master is doing; but He calls us friends because he has revealed the mystery of God's plan that has been hidden throughout the ages. Just the same as Paul explains it in Ephesians 3. Have we not all one father? Has not one God created us all? Why do we deal treacherously every man against his brother, by profaning the covenant God made with mankind? Always Love, Anita
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7/6/2006 5:35 pm |
Neet, the fact of the matter is, Jesus Himself says all will not make it to Heaven. There are many other places in the Bible that say the same. Yet you say it isn't so. That is denying the word of God! Nobody here is giving the power to Satan. We are just stating what is said in the Bible. You are denying that the Bible is the Word of God.
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According to our Holy Bible it says in Col 4:6 Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that ye may know how ye ought to answer every man. Let's play nice.(¯`•♥•´¯) ¤`•.♥.•´ ¤ (¯`•♥•´¯)
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Neet wide is the road that leads to destruction..many are called but few are chosen
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7/6/2006 6:16 pm |
wow. a post with my name on it thank you neet for answering me. i kept checking the post i commented on and missed this one until now. i confess that my second question was a bit of a trick question in as much as i myself have some serious doubts about the origin of paul's every word and the validity of his directives in my life today. i do not think that i agree with you about everyone being saved. but i think that i like the brave optimism and forgiving love of it, and i do not see it as false doctrine. whether or not it is a correct interperation does not detract from the very christian-ness of such a concept. i say that i do not think i agree because i haven't finished reading the entire bible yet. i am reserving forming my opinion on hell until i do. i have some serious doubts about hell as commonly percieved as well. in summation, i feel that i was correct to defend you, you ARE godly. i am sorry that your point of view is such a bone of contention around here, although i think i can also understand why that is.
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7/6/2006 6:53 pm |
Neet, I have no hatred for you...no anger towards you and I pray for HIS will and direction daily. I just know with every fiber of my being that you are in error in your stance regarding hell. He speaks to my heart and soul and I am convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt, no words you will ever utter will have precedence over HIS word and HIS touch on my heart. Be blessed, Roberta
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Neet you say; Father, forgive them for they know not what they do. I say; Father God please forgive Neet and lead her to your throne,place her on her knees before you and instruct her as to Your ways. She has read Your word and chooses the garden path that leads to damnation. Only You Father can reach her now. I say these things in the name of Your Son Jesus Christ. Amen The reason I quoted this particular scripture is to remind us all of the fact that Jesus plead the forgiveness of even those who mocked and murdered Him. Now if that ain't love, I don't know what is.
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There is nothing hateful at all in asking the Father to reach someone that is beyond your reach as Neet is beyond my reach when she refuses counsel of believers. Prayer is the most loving thing a person can do for another. Prayer is the greatest gift we can give another human everything else pales by comparison. I acted out of a heart of love to ask my Father in Heaven to intervene for the salvation of a soul that is walking the easy path to hell. To do anything else when faced by someone who has read the word of God and refuses to accept it is a travesty to all that HE has called us to do. The path I am walking is not the easy path, nor is it the path to hell, it is the path out of hell, I been there now God has lifted me to see that I should reject the evil and seek only the good. Many are called but few are chosen, He did not choose us because we are more in number than the rest, and it certainly is the road less traveled, the narrow road that few there be that find it. I love you, I am doing all He called me to do, though it won't be evident until after the return of Christ for His chosen faitful. God bless you
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Thanks for sharing that point, and I do appreciate it. I still have faith that Jesus came to destroy EVERY work of the devil, He has power over every demon and at His command they must obey, whether we choose to believe it or not. There may be some who have no faith in God, but He still has faith in us. Good to see you, because I do respect what you have to say. I totally enjoy reading your posts in groups, you have a lot of thought provoking things to say and always with a spirit of kindness. God Bless You
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if you are still holding to that noone goes to hell, then where might the rich guy in the story of Lazarus and the rich guy be or are you calling the storyteller a liar?
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Caroline, I never said no one is going to hell, I merely believe it won't be a final destination. Even Jesus went to hell, remember, before He ascended He descended and defeated hell death and the grave took authority over the devil and set the captives free. I do believe in hell, I have been there. I was the scum at the bottom of the septic tank beneath the bowels of hell and there was none lower down than me, but know what? God in His infinite power reached down and rescued me, and quite easily at that. I didn't deserve it, but because I have experienced that awesome power first hand I know that there is nothing He cannot do. His love for us is such that it races instantly to it's greatest point of need and heals it. The last shall be first and the least shall be the greatest. Jesus didn't come to save the perfect people, they don't need a Saviour. When He walked this earth He went out to the least deserving ones - the ones the world thought didn't deserve to be loved by God, He touched them, He healed them, He delivered them with just a word, or the touch of His robe, proving how easily He can set the captives free. I am only sharing the testimony of what I have witnessed first hand and the unfailing, unconditional love our Father has for everyone and everything He created. Sorry that offends you. The parable of the rich man and Lazarus is just that, a parable meant to teach a spiritual concept. I have researched it thoroughly if you would like me to share. God bless you.
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I'm a whosoever.
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am i understanding you correctly: some people will go to hell and suffer the punishment they deserve for rejecting JESUS but then they will be given another chance to accept JESUS's death for them and of course when it is explained to them by JESUS they will accept it then be accepted into heaven -- am i understanding you correctly?
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7/7/2006 9:17 am |
One may choose to interpret as they wish, that is between them and God...and while I feel that certain aspects of this interpretation may be rather liberal; that too, is my choice! I have spoken with Neet many times about Scripture and I would pity the man or woman who came to that debate with her not FULLY armed in the Word! I believe she is confident and assured in her opinion and will have many more Scriptural references to back this up. I further believe that if there was some doubt in this for her, it would not be posted AND she may have sought the advice of others before doing so... As for myself, I will see for myself what the Word has to say (and the Scriptural basis' for her treatise) and if I have issue with it...I would like to think our friendship is such that we might discuss this privately. Lastly, while we all should pray for each other, and yes, please pray for Neet (and pray for me as well)...pray that each and every one of our own Spiritual eyes be opened to the full truth of the Gospel!
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7/7/2006 9:58 am |
Neet, I have no further words for you on the topic because it is obviously not one that you choose to face objectively. Nor am I in a position that I am willing to deviate from. Does this mean I don't care for you? No, not at all. I just see that further discussion on this topic between the two of us will serve no purpose for the kingdom. I am convinced with every fiber of my being that you are wrong in your stance regarding hell. You are convinced I am in error. Perhaps we will see each other on the other side and compare notes there. Perhaps we will not. That is HIS choice to make. I know what I am called to do and I am not going to disappoint HIM by doing anything else. Be blessed, Roberta
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Lonnie, I ain't God, but I can tell you that I sincerely believe that God knows what is in man's heart and all it takes is God forgive me and He does. I know my hell was right here on earth, and Praise be to God that He plucked me right on out of it and gave me eternal life. There are no limits to what God can do, and no power that can overcome His love, no chains of hell that can He can't break loose.
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Caroline, I never said no one is going to hell, I merely believe it won't be a final destination. Even Jesus went to hell, remember, before He ascended He descended and defeated hell death and the grave took authority over the devil and set the captives free. I do believe in hell, I have been there. I was the scum at the bottom of the septic tank beneath the bowels of hell and there was none lower down than me, but know what? God in His infinite power reached down and rescued me, and quite easily at that. I didn't deserve it, but because I have experienced that awesome power first hand I know that there is nothing He cannot do. His love for us is such that it races instantly to it's greatest point of need and heals it. The last shall be first and the least shall be the greatest. Jesus didn't come to save the perfect people, they don't need a Saviour. When He walked this earth He went out to the least deserving ones - the ones the world thought didn't deserve to be loved by God, He touched them, He healed them, He delivered them with just a word, or the touch of His robe, proving how easily He can set the captives free. I am only sharing the testimony of what I have witnessed first hand and the unfailing, unconditional love our Father has for everyone and everything He created. Sorry that offends you. The parable of the rich man and Lazarus is just that, a parable meant to teach a spiritual concept. I have researched it thoroughly if you would like me to share. God bless you. and hell as described in the rich man and Lazarus was real and true because if you understand parables you will know that real names such as "Lazarus" were never used in parables..so please don't bother sharing any antibiblical material that denies the truth of this particular scripture. and I couldn't understand your point about Christ not coming to save perfect people..there aren't any..so there aren't any perfect people for Him to save..but that is an aside..
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7/8/2006 11:31 pm |
i still am reading...but it seems to me...that the major threat to the unsaved is complete death. hell, when it is mentioned, seems reserved for special cases. run of the mill unbelievers will just die and stay dead forever and will not get the reward in heaven and eternal life...but are not necessarily condemned to hell?
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