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Bloggers is Your Love (ONLY) Conditional? Back to this same topic so many of you buck me on. Just replying to another post, brought this topic of the ones who seem to do things not apropriete on this site. I will not label them! For they are of God too. He created them also. This subject and their Salvation is VERY IMPORTANT to me. As it is to our Father too. I have heard you'll say how you just want to run them out of here, like Christ ran those guys out of the temple. Well Christ had a perpose for that. But he sure did not go around, or live his life running everyone out, now did he? We are drawn to Christ because of the forgivness he has given us, and the patience he has shown us, through his compassion, understanding, mercy, grace, and unconditional love for us. So, what I seem to hear from alot of you is that you will only except these people or show them exceptance if they perfect and do as you will hav them do? So, in otherwords your love for them is "CONDITIONAL" ? God is patient with you, he has mercy on you through all your own failures, and don't judge their wrongs any worse then your own, because a sin is a sin. Why don't all of you try to understand them? The truth is they have been rejected and labeled by you, so now they feel unexcepted by the Lord too. This feeling of rejection, brings a hurt that can seem unbarable. Then it causes one to be angery, then the anger leads them to strike out at you and others who have nothing to do with their rejection. But they believe that everyone, even God will reject them because it has seemed to be the theme of their life. Then they come here and do the things here to all of us, and they get the same rejection, and just want to be run out from all of you. Well I love you all, and want you to stop and think about this. If for your own sin, God showed you no mercy, had no Patienct with you, and shown no tolerance, or unconditional love, then where would you be?????? You would not be accepted by either, just as you don't show these unconditional love and total exceptence as you have been shown. A little something for us all to think about and ponder on, before you critisize, judge, or run someone else out and away from the Lords door step.Is your love for them and other only conditionl upon the that they fit your own vission of what is exceptable? God loves us all, so think before you critisize or want to judge and run someone off. Had Christ went around running everyone who was doing wrong off, there would be no one saved.  Gods Continued and Never Ending Blessings and Love, David  Prayer Group Testimonies, And Encouragment Group Set Free ( Renewing Our Mind) |
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2/8/2009 11:23 am |
 Show people here "TRUTH"---- Point them BACK to JESUS alone----------- I get called satanic and worse.  Show them their ERRORS as Christ tried to show them--- The people here point to EVERY EXCUSE imaginable to justify their sins and claim they can not and will never choose to stop sinning--- even if THAT is what the entire BIBLE is all about- THE WAY TO STOP SINNING. Personally I see it as hilarious that folks lie about their realities and their faith- and then wonder why they can't do better than fail constantly- Jesus said He is TRUTH- not lies... If we LIE- we don't have or follow Jesus at all. "pretenders" is the word that comes to mind--- And THAT is a problem that most folks try to hide- the fact that they are "wanna be's" without a CLUE why they will never get to the real deal.
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2/8/2009 3:35 pm |
CC- in your replies- you state that we are not perfect and will not be perfect. If you use that as your excuse to cling to sin- while knowing that SIN IS ALWAYS DONE BY CONSCIOUS CHOICE-- why would you claim to be a christian? If you SIN- you are of the devil- that is what the book says- and that means God has NOTHING TO DO WITH A SINNER since LIGHT has NOTHING TO DO WITH DARKNESS. The statement that we can not be perfect is satan's own shackle- placed upon SINNERS WHO SAY THEY CAN NOT STOP SINNING. It then becomes that cycle of FAILURE Jesus already broke once. IF we never TRUST that God is the one who creates perfection IN US and THROUGH US- we forever claim that perfection is impossible- which IS CALLING GOD A LIAR AND HIS SON A LIAR TOO. I know you mean well- but the false doctrine you cling to ------------- simply means you are indeed of the devil- and not of God. Can't mix truth with lies- JESUS IS TRUTH- and to mix Lies into Him is as bad a sin as I can imagine. If you are following a map- but the cartographer purposely maps out that Los Angeles is in Florida- will you ever Get to california? I think not. Same with false doctrine- It does NOT lead to truth- because it is false doctrine and is a lie in the first place. Can't be perfect? Only because we never try.
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Well...truth hurts and speaking for myself it takes blogs such as this to help me see the error of my ways. I am going to try and do better in the future. GBY! May God Bless You in ABUNDANCE
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2/8/2009 5:22 pm |
Thank you Barb, I myself was rejected, critisized and many other things growing up, and by my very own family. But I thank the Lord for it all, because he taught me the truth about how I felt and how it kept me from him. it is no different with others, and their feelings and actions. There has not been a person per-say who showed me him. I sought him and his truth for myself. Fighting through much pain, guilt, hurt, you name it I dealt with it. But it has made me strong and lead me to have compassion for others, and also to show those whom think and act these ways the truth. For understanding, is were mercy and compassion begin. God Bless You, David  Gods Continued and Never Ending Blessings and Love, David Prayer Group Testimonies, And Encouragment Group Set Free ( Renewing Our Mind)
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we can all learn from this David. Blessings The body of Christ is like a patchwork quilt! All stitched together with God's love.
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2/9/2009 3:38 am |
Yes we all can. I just give thanks and total Praise to the Lord above for revealing it to me.You know people don't realize what they do to others, or try to understand others. Everyone seems so in to self preservaton. I pray that this open eyes and hearts to have compassion and understanding for others. Blessings Gods Continued and Never Ending Blessings and Love, David Prayer Group Testimonies, And Encouragment Group Set Free ( Renewing Our Mind)
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2/9/2009 10:49 am |
Quoting a response from above-------- christiancowboy6 replies on 2/8/2009 6:48 pm: Gordy I believe you are missing the Point totally. I use no excuss to cling to sin. I strive everyday to serve him and follow in faith. I am referring to be gentle with others who now do not understand. Also Gordy, My Salvation is complete. Christ completed it on the Cross. What I can acheive in perfect has no bearing on my Salvation. I strive to follow him and his will for my life. Growing faith more each day. besides Gordy, we have made perfect through Christ. So I ask you, are you Perfect and without sin? I tend to believe not. Then tell me Gordy, Abraham, David, Moses, Paul, all everyone in the Bible sinned and noe were perfect. So they are all liars too and not of him? Come on Partner. Stop and think about what you are saying. If what you are saying is true. Then Christ did not need to earth to die for our sins and Yes (Make us right before God)This is the perfection. Is sure is not of our own ability. Go Read Romans. Paul makes it clear there. God Bless You--- end quote I'm not missing the point at all- I'm ignoring a SIN FILLED STATEMENT that you repeat mindlessly about the PERFECTION CHRIST TAUGHT. Your further statements ARE BASED UPON FALSE DOCTRINE AS WELL- Since JESUS IS THE ONE WHO WARNED YA BOTH ABOUT THE WORD DEPART- AND THE REASON HE IS SAYING THAT WORD. Since you HONESTLY BELIEVE that your salvation is OVER AND DONE WITH BY WHAT HAPPENED ON THE CROSS- WHY NOT GO THE WHOLE DISTANCE AND FOLLOW EXACTLY WHAT HE TAUGHT? Your post here HAS MERIT- but it is way far out of context- you make reference to "being gentle" with others who DO NOT UNDERSTAND- yet you never expound what CHRIST TAUGHT to be GENTLE ABOUT OR WHY. Quote you- "What I can acheive in perfect has no bearing on my Salvation." Ah but it does! Jesus said so. JESUS SAID YOUR WORKS WILL KEEP YOU FROM HEARING THE WORD DEPART IF YOU FOLLOW HIS INSTRUCTIONS. SO are you DENYING WHAT JESUS SAID???????????????? Yup. Ya are. Quote you again- "besides Gordy, we have made perfect through Christ." Nope. NOT IF YOU ARE NOT DOING WHAT HE SAID TO DO. You said you are NOT PERFECT AND CAN NOT BE PERFECT- then ya claim that you ARE perfect IN JESUS- yet ya NEVER DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WHAT JESUS SAID WILL MAKE YA PERFECT IN HIS FATHER'S EYES. Faith in false doctrine does NOT produce perfection- it produces SIN and that is exactly where you are AT is it NOT? You SIN and SIN and SIN and say you can not quit CUZ YA ARE NOT PERFECT. EXCUSES. That is what you are posting here- EXCUSES FOR FAILURE TO FOLlOW JESUS AND ONLY JESUS. SO where is the POINT I am missing in your stuff here? IF YOU WERE DOING WHAT JESUS TAUGHT- YOU WOULD BE PERFECT. You claim otherwise. WHY? Do you imagine I CARE about whomever you toss up for scrutiny or judgment about who did what in the far distant past? Do you imagine JESUS LIED ABOUT US BEING OR BECOMING PERFECT? Then what you PREACH is DEFEATISM and is a SIN TO TEACH IT. You and ALL LIKE YOU are literally calling JESUS AND GOD- liars. WHY? Cuz some sinner man in the PAST has taught AGAINST PERFECTION and REPLACES JESUS OWN TEACHINGS WITH LIES. So how to FIX IT? Continue to DENY JESUS WORDS and THEREBY DENY HIM? Continue to make excuses for NEVER ONCE FOLLOWING JESUS ALONE? Continue to believe YOU ARE SMARTER THAN GOD? "Oh I can't BE perfect- EVEN IF GOD SAYS I CAN". False faith in FAILURE IS DEAD FAITH AND IS DEADLY TO THE BELIEVER OF FALSE DOCTRINES. Jesus said so. Not me. gently teaching FALSE DOCTRINE is a sin. best figger out what Jesus was teaching them to DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO- and then teach THAT the way Jesus said to teach it- "gently and with PERFECTION. All else is sin- I think you have ben finding that out all along- don't matter WHAT ya do "out there" without JESUS- yer a SINNER who can't quit. Ever wonder WHY ya believe JESUS WAS LYING AND YOU CAN'T BE PERFECT? As I told ya- SATAN WANTS YA TO BELIEVE YA CAN NOT- so ya NEVER EVEN TRY TO FOLLOW ONLY JESUS. "too hard. Too goofy. too crazy. and the best one of all-"too simple easy and light to BE WHAT HE TAUGHT". You wanna teach something HOLY? Go find out what JESUS TAUGHT- learn it, understand it and DO IT- before you try to teach ANYTHING- cuz perfection means ya can TEACH IT TOO if God wants ya to. Otherwise DO THE WORKS and leave the rest alone. Yer HIS SLAVE- Obey or be cast out. It's just that simple. Can't be perfect on yer own? SURRENDER ALL. God's perfection is all you'll have left. SO which is it? ARE YOU PERFECT OF NOT? No- because you do NOT DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO what Jesus said to DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
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