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Sweethoney2007 64F
5104 posts
10/6/2008 12:28 pm
Do you dares to question the authority of Ellen White? YES BECAUSE JESUS IS A HIGHER ATHOURITY.


Because of the exclusive nature of the SDA Church, and because they are the faithful and true "remnant", when one leaves the church, they are leaving the "truth" and choosing to be "apostates". When I left the SDA Church in 1998, I was met with all sorts of comments, such as I was "lost", an "apostate", following "Satan", an "enemy of the truth", and so forth. This is unique to cultic religions. When a person changes from the Methodist Church to the Baptist Church, he is not derided as "lost" or a "heretic". However, when a person leaves the SDA Church for the Baptist Church, it is a whole different story. He is going "back to Babylon" or returning to "Apostate Protestantism".

If someone dares to question the authority of Ellen White, they are told they are fulfilling Ellen White's prophecy that in the last days some Adventists would be part of the final deception of Satan, which is to destroy confidence in the "spirit of prophecy." This puts a lot of pressure on a person, because after all, who wants to be a part of Satan's final deception?

Leaving the SDA Church is often a very difficult proposition for an SDA because it could easily involve the loss of friends, loved ones, and perhaps even family. In some cases it could mean the loss of a job or career with an Adventist institution. When an Adventist is contemplating leaving the church, he may be pressured by other Adventists to "stay in the fold" and keep his objections to himself.

When I told one SDA professor of my findings regarding how Ellen White failed the Biblical tests of a prophet, that man recommended I stay quiet and "do not rock the boat." In other words, I was being pressured to live a double-life, pretending on the surface that I agreed with what the SDA Church taught, while keeping my real feelings to myself.

It is spiritually unhealthy to be put in the position of having to pretend to be something you are not in order to hold onto your job, your family, or your friends

The attributes and tactics of the Seventh-day Adventist Church that we discussed above are not the ways or methods of Christ. Before you join the SDA Church, please think long and hard about the ramifications that decision may have upon your long-term spiritual health.

If you are already a member of the SDA Church, you need to consider if this is truly God's highest will for your life. Over the last 10 years I have often had people ask me, Should I leave the SDA Church? The answer is not simple, but let me share with you four cases where you should stay in the SDA Church:

If you were to leave the SDA Church and stop attending any Christian church. It is better for you to stay in the SDA Church than to leave and have no Christian fellowship whatsoever.

If you were to leave the SDA Church and end up in a worse church. If you are ever tempted to join another group that is outside the mainstream of Christianity, such as Scientology, Jehovah's Witness, or Mormonism, please investigate them thoroughly before making your decision. Yes, it is possible to end up in a worse church!

If your leaving the SDA Church would destroy the Christian faith of others. If your act of leaving would be so damaging as to unsettle the Christian faith of some weaker brethren, then it may be best for you to wait for the right time and circumstances to leave. You may need to spend some time working to establish those weaker in the faith in the true gospel message before you make your move.

If God wants you in the SDA Church in order to advance reforms from within. Some strong souls are needed on the inside of the movement to agitate for reform and corporate repentance. If that is you, then stay where you are.

For the rest of you, if you can find another Christian Church where you can grow spiritually and serve and honor God, then you should take the matter to the Lord in prayer and follow His leading. I cannot tell you which church is the "true" church. There are different "flavors" of Christianity, but I strongly encourage you to join an evangelical church that is in the mainstream of Christianity. ( Andrew NONSDA....EX ADVENTISTS)

Sweethoneys advice.....GET OUT OF THERE!!!!


Isaiah 42:8 " I am the Lord; that is my name! And My glory I will not give to another, nor My praise to graven images."


Sweethoney2007 64F
6565 posts
10/6/2008 5:45 pm

Same thing in Pentecostal circles....my rule of thumb now is...not be denominationally minded but put Gods word above mans word. Clearly SDA are deceiving people and need to be exposed! God is calling many out. So many sites on the net for ex SDAS...don't find that in main stream Christianity...to this degree. The doctrine is so similar to JW doctrine. I bet if we did a comparison the bloggers could see the similarities.

Isaiah 42:8 " I am the Lord; that is my name! And My glory I will not give to another, nor My praise to graven images."


Tropical_Man 68M
6389 posts
10/6/2008 7:05 pm

wow.... no comment from Claudia? Yeah that Elle White was not all there


Sweethoney2007 64F
6565 posts
10/6/2008 9:19 pm

Tropical_Man

I would like to see Claudia come out of that nonsense because I care about her. She knows this is not personal. I do not agree with her religion and she knows it. Blast the blogs with SDA material and well....there is always 2 sides to an argument now isn't there?


Isaiah 42:8 " I am the Lord; that is my name! And My glory I will not give to another, nor My praise to graven images."


athabina
(john cobban)
74M
123 posts
10/8/2008 2:41 pm

Thank you for having the courage to follow your conscience; I am reminded that "Jesus also, that He might sanctify the people with His own blood, suffered outside the gate; therefore let us go forth to Him, outside the camp, bearing His reproach." (Heb.13:13)


Sweethoney2007 64F
6565 posts
10/8/2008 9:56 pm

athabina

What do I care about peoples opinions? They change with the wind. Especially on the blogs! I care about what my Lord thinks, and his love for the lost compels me to tell people the truth even if it hurts and even if they get offended and even if they hate me. Perhaps he will bring some to repentance?? I know that he has because Gods word...sola scriptura, is powerful to heal, set free and deliver!
!

Isaiah 42:8 " I am the Lord; that is my name! And My glory I will not give to another, nor My praise to graven images."


Claudia_T 66F

10/12/2008 11:15 am

YET AGAIN, people can come to MY BLOG to find out what Seventh Day Adventists actually believe and teach.

Thank You.

**Curtsey**

Jn:15:14: Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you.


Sweethoney2007 64F
6565 posts
10/13/2008 10:55 am

Those of the truth will hear the truth Claudia and those who choose the law with be judged by the law and perish by not being able to live up to it.

Eph 2:4-10

But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, by grace ye are saved And hath raised [us] up together, and made [us] sit together in heavenly [places] in Christ Jesus:

That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in [his] kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.

For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Not of works, lest any man should boast.

For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

Isaiah 42:8 " I am the Lord; that is my name! And My glory I will not give to another, nor My praise to graven images."