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What does this mean to you? Live in but not of... I recall a verse that says live in the world but not of it... What this means to me is to seek harmony between the two discerning the highest moral and spiritual common ground between the teachings of Christianity and values of our culture we live in today. We must strive for holiness and affirm what is truly good in life. Yes, we must rejoice in opportunities to build on good things God has given us and we must use every opportunity to improve, transform, and even convert this or that part of the world to the glory of God by our countenance and actions. Let's look at some human tendencies of thought. Do I fail often? Do I repeat sins I know are wrong? Does my conscience tell me when I have strayed off the path? Am I holy and self-righteous? Do I have a rigid view of Christianity? Am I more evolved in Christ than most? (Many extremes in possible thought.) Never forget that God can be trusted and honored even when the way is dark and confusing. He does work in mysterious ways; all things together for good. We may not understand it now, but in the end we will understand.  (¯`•♥•´¯) ¤`•.♥.•´ ¤ (¯`•♥•´¯) |
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ifv you throw a stone into a tar baby, its in the tar, butt its not tar, its a stone
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8/1/2008 9:57 am |
"Live in but not of"... Jesus showed us EXACTLY what that means- "come ye apart" is the other side of that coin- How to "come ye apart" while still being IN... God sent Jesus to both clarify what God wants- -and to show us HOW to achieve that set of commands PERFECTLY. WE MUST LIVE HERE- but we DO NOT HAVE TO LIVE THE SAME WAY THEY DO. That includes EVERY FACET of life- in every way imaginable. The reason we never LEAVE the world and it's stuff- is we believe we MUST CONFORM TO IT'S DICTATES- rather than fully and irrevocably conform to Christ and what HE ALONE TAUGHT. We MIX Christ and the WORLD- "leavening" Christ WITH THE WORLD - and wonder why we fail to confess OBEDIENCE rather than have to confess SIN all the time. We SIN- we CAN NOT BE FOLLOWING CHRIST- the whole NT says so. Does that help a little?      "Serve ONLY The Father- no one else at all- not even your own self AT ALL."
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8/1/2008 10:08 am |
ifv you throw a stone into a tar baby, its in the tar, butt its not tar, its a stone God DID change a certain "rule" back while Jesus was here... He knew how to fine tune US so Satan would leave HIS LITTLE ONES ALONE. Only ADULTS are evil- and nothing BUT- Kids are ... WHAT? worthless to Satan since GOD HIDES THEIR TRUE VALUE.
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8/1/2008 10:29 am |
The really SAD part of the "noah" story.... Only 8 people survived... God did away with a LOT of real live kids in that story... but we never think about that little detail... He removed everyone just to get rid of the adults... He did not have a second "ark"... just for the kids... And He won't this time- have any "ark" at all... unless WE build our own... We need to get started soon... It's PHYSICAL-- and no one is ready... no one. 
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8/1/2008 10:32 am |
Jesus had a rigid view of Christianity. There was no middle ground. That does necessarily mean you are self-righteous. Its getting to where its frowned down upon by alot of Christians just because you actually believe in what you believe in instead of being wishy-washy about it. And if you dont believe in mixing all religious views into one pot and calling it Christianity... thats frowned down upon. The Bible says "Be ye separate, touch not the unclean and I will receive you". 2Cor:6:17 But today "unity" is the buzz word. Unity WITH the World as much as possible yet still calling yourself a Christian. You cant even use the word "RELIGION" now amongst Christians, for they think if you use THAT word, that must mean you are "rigid and unfeeling". But God uses it. REAL RELIGION means trying to be a blessing to others and at the same time keeping yourself UNSPOTTED from the World. Jms:1:27: Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world. But then again the Apostle Paul DID say that to the Jew he was as the Jew that he might win the Jews and to the Gentiles, the same thing. We should NEVER compromise with sin to come down to the world's level to try to bring them up to ours, that ALWAYS results in us going down to them till no difference is even seen between Christians and the World. Paul did talk about the "Falling away" of the Church. They compromised with the Pagans. And its been going downhill ever since. At least thats how I see it. Jn:14:15: If ye love me, keep my commandments. --Jesus.
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christianity did not even begin Claudia until he gave his life.
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"Live in but not of"... Jesus showed us EXACTLY what that means- "come ye apart" is the other side of that coin- How to "come ye apart" while still being IN... God sent Jesus to both clarify what God wants- -and to show us HOW to achieve that set of commands PERFECTLY. WE MUST LIVE HERE- but we DO NOT HAVE TO LIVE THE SAME WAY THEY DO. That includes EVERY FACET of life- in every way imaginable. The reason we never LEAVE the world and it's stuff- is we believe we MUST CONFORM TO IT'S DICTATES- rather than fully and irrevocably conform to Christ and what HE ALONE TAUGHT. We MIX Christ and the WORLD- "leavening" Christ WITH THE WORLD - and wonder why we fail to confess OBEDIENCE rather than have to confess SIN all the time. We SIN- we CAN NOT BE FOLLOWING CHRIST- the whole NT says so. Does that help a little? "Serve ONLY The Father- no one else at all- not even your own self AT ALL." (¯`•♥•´¯) ¤`•.♥.•´ ¤ (¯`•♥•´¯)
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The really SAD part of the "noah" story.... Only 8 people survived... God did away with a LOT of real live kids in that story... but we never think about that little detail... He removed everyone just to get rid of the adults... He did not have a second "ark"... just for the kids... And He won't this time- have any "ark" at all... unless WE build our own... We need to get started soon... It's PHYSICAL-- and no one is ready... no one. (¯`•♥•´¯) ¤`•.♥.•´ ¤ (¯`•♥•´¯)
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Jesus had a rigid view of Christianity. There was no middle ground. That does necessarily mean you are self-righteous. Its getting to where its frowned down upon by alot of Christians just because you actually believe in what you believe in instead of being wishy-washy about it. And if you dont believe in mixing all religious views into one pot and calling it Christianity... thats frowned down upon. The Bible says "Be ye separate, touch not the unclean and I will receive you". 2Cor:6:17 But today "unity" is the buzz word. Unity WITH the World as much as possible yet still calling yourself a Christian. You cant even use the word "RELIGION" now amongst Christians, for they think if you use THAT word, that must mean you are "rigid and unfeeling". But God uses it. REAL RELIGION means trying to be a blessing to others and at the same time keeping yourself UNSPOTTED from the World. Jms:1:27: Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world. But then again the Apostle Paul DID say that to the Jew he was as the Jew that he might win the Jews and to the Gentiles, the same thing. We should NEVER compromise with sin to come down to the world's level to try to bring them up to ours, that ALWAYS results in us going down to them till no difference is even seen between Christians and the World. Paul did talk about the "Falling away" of the Church. They compromised with the Pagans. And its been going downhill ever since. At least thats how I see it. (¯`•♥•´¯) ¤`•.♥.•´ ¤ (¯`•♥•´¯)
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ifv you throw a stone into a tar baby, its in the tar, butt its not tar, its a stone  (¯`•♥•´¯) ¤`•.♥.•´ ¤ (¯`•♥•´¯)
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The really SAD part of the "noah" story.... Only 8 people survived... God did away with a LOT of real live kids in that story... but we never think about that little detail... He removed everyone just to get rid of the adults... He did not have a second "ark"... just for the kids... And He won't this time- have any "ark" at all... unless WE build our own... We need to get started soon... It's PHYSICAL-- and no one is ready... no one. (¯`•♥•´¯) ¤`•.♥.•´ ¤ (¯`•♥•´¯)
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8/2/2008 9:45 am |
Yup. But the blood of Christ is NOT the end of the journey. It's only the Beginning. and yes- it IS spiritual "shcizo-spiritunia". Has to be- "good/evil"- and Jesus said you won't know the difference between light and dark- -IF YOU ARE A SINNER blinded and thinking ANYTHING BUT HIS AT ALL- is light. As for the "despair"- why is THAT? Jesus said it was NOT easy to find that "way" to life- but if you feel DESPAIR- "give THAT back to God too"- since THAT is included in "everything (alllll )" that has to be surrendered if you are really thinking about the word "allll". Since you DESPAIR- might that mean that you are so SICK AND TIRED OF SIN that you will do ANYTHING to get rid of it? Soooooo "surrender" your feelings of ALLLLL sorts right back to the Father. Why hold onto something you feel is necessary or valuable- when GOD has something BETTER? Does THAT help? Jesus didn't say "FEW FIND IT" to be discouraging- but to dig his spurs in and get you to do the work that is required to COMPETE and OVERCOME ALLLLLL ELSE TO FIND LIFE AS HE MEANT IT. Hey. "lean not to your own understanding"... It's a huge mistake to do so. It's not my doctrine- Jesus taught it- and YOU CAN DO IT. (huggles again )
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8/2/2008 9:55 am |
Abandoning society altogether is the only way that I can even so much as imagine going even one day without sin and that is not going to happen. It would seem as though you have a problem with understanding the true stakes involved. He wasn't kidding about what He said... yet you now say you'd rather have society- "the world" than what God has planned for YOU if you give UP "society". It seems like it's impossible and even EVIL to dump all you have ever known- "Just to follow Christ perfectly"... how does that actually work out? "lord... please forgive me for these sins I did today... I really wish I could do better." And God says- Ahhhhhhh... but you CAN if only you WOULD. That help?
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8/2/2008 10:07 am |
Which Gospel ark story are you referring to -- the one I know, doesn't reference this. The "ark" Jesus left us IS PHYSICAL but not even CLOSE to what noah had. It's waaaaay BETTER and it's NOT some trivial teaching we can't discover and DOOOOOO. "Salvation" is PHYSICAL- "as it was in the days of noah... The blueprint is still in the 4 Gospels. ANY other "ark" will sink this time. That help?
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