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What is hidden in the field? Ok, no one's got to but think about it if you will, search the scriptures. Search Matt. 13:44 What is it?  (¯`•♥•´¯) ¤`•.♥.•´ ¤ (¯`•♥•´¯) |
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7/26/2008 11:22 pm |
 yup. and the pearl in the next verse etc. He can then do what ever he wants-- since he owns it now and will not easily relinquish the treasure or it's true value or nature- since the "pearl" is but a metaphore. HOWEVER- the treasure is but a result of doing something else... when we do still another thing. 1. dump everything but the search. 2. Follow Only Jesus all around the place in the 4 Gospels. 3 Do exactly what He said to do once we find out what it is He was teaching them to do back then. There really are rules to follow- even before we even CAN follow Him... BUT in this day and time- we are allowed to modify a bit- becaue we don't have to do more than read and THINK- -while they had to literally follow Him all over the place so they didn't miss a lesson. We really DOOOO have it easier and lighter than they did- for now. p.s.... thought you said you were headed for sandman time...  OOOOOO late night on Saturday night... she had a "date" with Jesus she just could not say no to!!!
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7/26/2008 11:34 pm |
By the way- what would be the most HUGE treasure you can ever imagine knowing about? think about that one- Jesus said that one right out in the open.  that IS the biggie buried in the field- you'd give your life to know it and that is just what Jesus said you must do. BUT-- "though he were dead-- yet shall he live"... "dead"- as in surrender ALLLLLLLL in our case. We don't be named "lazarus"... unless ya wanna be.
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7/27/2008 12:28 am |
He that finds a wife finds a good thing Pr 18:22 Eph 2:10 We are his workmanship (poiema, or poem, or work of art) created in Christ Jesus. God is an artist and you are His masterpiece!
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7/27/2008 3:05 am |
In the parable the field containing the treasure represents the Holy Scriptures. And the gospel is the treasure. All of the treasures of Truth. The treasures of the gospel are said to be hidden. By those who are wise in their own estimation. Jesus said God reveals the Truth to babes. "The natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God; for they are foolishness unto him; neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned," 1 Cor. 2:14. The Pearl of great Price is another parable...it represents dual things.. Jesus is the Pearl of Great Price... The Apostle Paul said we should be willing to discard everything else as dung to obtain. In Christ are "hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge." Col. 2:3. We also, to Jesus are the Pearl of Great Price, He laid down His life for us and thought it not too costly to pay for us... One parable illustrates the preciousness of Jesus Himself and the other illustrates the preciousness of the Truths found in the Scriptures. In the parable of the pearl, is not represented as a gift. The merchantman bought it at the price of all that he had. Many question the meaning of this, since Christ is represented in the Scriptures as a gift. He is a gift, but only to those who give themselves, soul, body, and spirit, to Him without reserve. We are to give ourselves to Christ, to live a life of willing obedience to all His requirements. All that we are, all the talents and capabilities we possess, are the Lord's, to be consecrated to His service. When we thus give ourselves wholly to Him, Christ, with all the treasures of heaven, gives Himself to us. We obtain the pearl of great price. Salvation is a free gift, and yet it is to be bought and sold. 1Cor:6:20: For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's. 1Cor: 7 : 23: Ye are bought with a price; be not ye the servants of men. Jn:14:15: If ye love me, keep my commandments. --Jesus.
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7/27/2008 3:08 am |
In the parable the field containing the treasure represents the Holy Scriptures. And the gospel is the treasure. All of the treasures of Truth. The treasures of the gospel are said to be hidden. By those who are wise in their own estimation. Jesus said God reveals the Truth to babes. "The natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God; for they are foolishness unto him; neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned," 1 Cor. 2:14. The Pearl of great Price is another parable...it represents dual things.. Jesus is the Pearl of Great Price... The Apostle Paul said we should be willing to discard everything else as dung to obtain. In Christ are "hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge." Col. 2:3. We also, to Jesus are the Pearl of Great Price, He laid down His life for us and thought it not too costly to pay for us... One parable illustrates the preciousness of Jesus Himself and the other illustrates the preciousness of the Truths found in the Scriptures. In the parable of the pearl, is not represented as a gift. The merchantman bought it at the price of all that he had. Many question the meaning of this, since Christ is represented in the Scriptures as a gift. He is a gift, but only to those who give themselves, soul, body, and spirit, to Him without reserve. We are to give ourselves to Christ, to live a life of willing obedience to all His requirements. All that we are, all the talents and capabilities we possess, are the Lord's, to be consecrated to His service. When we thus give ourselves wholly to Him, Christ, with all the treasures of heaven, gives Himself to us. We obtain the pearl of great price. Salvation is a free gift, and yet it is to be bought and sold. 1Cor:6:20: For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's. 1Cor: 7 : 23: Ye are bought with a price; be not ye the servants of men. Rom:6:18: Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness. Rom:6:19: I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness. Rom:6:16: Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness? Rom:6:22: But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life. Jn:14:15: If ye love me, keep my commandments. --Jesus.
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7/27/2008 3:22 am |
I forgot to say that with the "buying" thing... in Revelation chapter 3 it talks about "come buy of Me" the white rainment, eyesalve, gold tried in the fire... and also in the ten virgin story, the foolish try to "get" oil from the wise virgins but their answer is No sorry, you have to go get it from the one who sells it... character and an experience with God is something you cant "get" from anyone else you have to have had that yourself with God.. thats what the gold tried in the fire is, see Malachi 3 1: Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts. 2: But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap: 3: And he shall sit as a refiner and purifer of silver: and he shall purify the sons of Levi, and purge them as gold and silver, that they may offer unto the LORD an offering in righteousness. Job:23:10: But he knoweth the way that I take: when he hath tried me, I shall come forth as gold. but the ones pointed out in Revelation3 dont even realize their lack. so they wont be ready for the second coming Malachi 3:2: But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap the treasures of the scriptures that are hidden from some must be put into the life... not kept outside ...we have to keep walking with God and our repentence has to go deeper and deeper, we cant stand still or we will stagnate. Not a one time filling of oil... in our lamps... but a continual replenishing is what we have to have... Jn:14:15: If ye love me, keep my commandments. --Jesus.
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7/27/2008 3:30 am |
In the parable the field containing the treasure represents the Holy Scriptures. And the gospel is the treasure. All of the treasures of Truth. The treasures of the gospel are said to be hidden. By those who are wise in their own estimation. Jesus said God reveals the Truth to babes. "The natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God; for they are foolishness unto him; neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned," 1 Cor. 2:14. The Pearl of great Price is another parable...it represents dual things.. Jesus is the Pearl of Great Price... The Apostle Paul said we should be willing to discard everything else as dung to obtain. In Christ are "hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge." Col. 2:3. We also, to Jesus are the Pearl of Great Price, He laid down His life for us and thought it not too costly to pay for us... One parable illustrates the preciousness of Jesus Himself and the other illustrates the preciousness of the Truths found in the Scriptures. In the parable of the pearl, is not represented as a gift. The merchantman bought it at the price of all that he had. Many question the meaning of this, since Christ is represented in the Scriptures as a gift. He is a gift, but only to those who give themselves, soul, body, and spirit, to Him without reserve. We are to give ourselves to Christ, to live a life of willing obedience to all His requirements. All that we are, all the talents and capabilities we possess, are the Lord's, to be consecrated to His service. When we thus give ourselves wholly to Him, Christ, with all the treasures of heaven, gives Himself to us. We obtain the pearl of great price. Salvation is a free gift, and yet it is to be bought and sold. 1Cor:6:20: For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's. 1Cor: 7 : 23: Ye are bought with a price; be not ye the servants of men. Rom:6:18: Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness. Rom:6:19: I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness. Rom:6:16: Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness? Rom:6:22: But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life. Be certain you are pure in heart- before seeking that singular "treasure".
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Treasure! For the harvest! GBU!
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Could the treasure be us? (¯`•♥•´¯) ¤`•.♥.•´ ¤ (¯`•♥•´¯)
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7/30/2008 10:23 am |
Could the treasure be us? But- That's correct in one way- -without us being here and alive- we could not be searching and finding. That idea does indeed make us "valuable" to simply be alive and able to hear that "call" in the first place.Soooooooo... I take it you are looking for that "field" still and the "treasure" that Jesus suggested is there... ? Here's a little hint- If you don't actually know where that "field" itself is- Would it be wisdom to "get higher" so you can see from a bit further away- since "being too close" to something can indeed hide it if you can't get the big picture and compare "differences" in how the land lays and how it somehow looks ODD in one place compared to other "fields"... If we believe we can see (understand ) at our level- we are indeed experiencing blindness and God's delusion that He sent way back when. It is still keeping us from seeing even where that field actually is. "few find it". Jesus really did mean it. ...
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Could the treasure be us? ONE only truth remains though besides of all possible interpretations!
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7/30/2008 12:20 pm |
There have been a lot of "studies" on the two parables. They have been taken apart almost word by word... and even compared to ancient rabbinic parables! ONE only truth remains though besides of all possible interpretations! It makes a difference in how we do our homework- can't find the treasure- if we are not in the correct field. The parable itself also works on 3 levels- but those are self apparent once the parable is deciphered properly.Sooooooo what comes next? Ask why he was looking for a field... might be something in that question which puts the parable into a different "focus".
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Consider that it finds us and we don't find it? (¯`•♥•´¯) ¤`•.♥.•´ ¤ (¯`•♥•´¯)
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7/30/2008 3:36 pm |
Consider that it finds us and we don't find it? SO he left it buried until he owned it and told no one what he had found- since they too would go looking BEFORE HE HAD BOUGHT AND OWNED IT. It's so valuable- that nothing was worth more than what he had found- even if he had found it- quite by mistake. That help?
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How do you respond to the kingdom that seeks you and finds you and pays a big price for you? So, we are called upon to give up everything for the treasure. Let me quote Jesus to tell you what is required: (Mat 5:29) If your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. But how many people actually do this literally? (Mat 10:37-39) Anyone who loves his father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves his son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me; (3  and anyone who does not take his cross and follow me is not worthy of me. (39) Whoever finds his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life for my sake will find it.(Mat 19:21) "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me." So in literal terms, the perfection you speak of could be summed up in a nutshell in Mathew 19:21. But!!!!! again, is this too literal? Is there more? (¯`•♥•´¯) ¤`•.♥.•´ ¤ (¯`•♥•´¯)
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7/30/2008 8:55 pm |
Matt19:21 is correct and profound. But in the "mercy" stagee of the time AFTER Christ died, we are free to modify that in the order of the steps to be taken. God took Jesus away from us physically- therefore we do NOT do Matt19:21 until we have learned from the Bible instead of through following HIm around Jerusalem and the area. What DOES apply in 21 is that once we have found and learned that "way"- it won't be a case of making choices we would rather not make- because unlike the young ruler- WHO DID NOT KNOW WHAT JESUS WAS TEACHING YET- we will have seen the works produce FIRST- and will indeed desire to sell the JUNK we have and keep the goodies God actually DID provide. Otherwise- if we divy up all of our physical stuff and become homeless, dirt poor and desperate in TODAY'S world- HOW WOULD THAT BE EASY AND LIGHT? Our Father is no fool- He allows for us to LEARN THE RULES BEFORE DOING ANYTHING ELSE. Sooooooo... once the rules are known and WORKED- you will have no further need for the pitiful life you think is so "blessed and gracious" from the Father- you will KNOW it was all your own doing and none of it was His. Now as to the "comes to you- finds you and pays a great price" etc- God knows what it will take to do what He wants done here on esrth. We have delayed His kingdom for almost 2000 years. Jesus came- did stuff and left- knowing the future already- had to set up the "process" of identifying ourselves either in the scriptures- or not in the scriptures. Since God's word never rreturns empty- simple identifications will take place in the correct time- where all sorts of promises will be kept- ones that will never be disclosed by those identified. If we believe the 4 Gospels at all- we look to Him sent to seek, deliver and preserve the messages others would find later. How we respond to the kingdom is to test it first- check for accuracy in REALITY and detail, then recieve the truth Jesus was sent to expose for others God knew would be along later. The kindgom is indeed wholly physical, and wholly attainable- IF we figger out what Christ taught and apply it correctly in a world- vastly different from the days of Peter and the 12. We only "give up everything" in that sense AFTER WE ARE SURE WE ARE NOT IN THE CLUTCHES OF THE COUNTERFEITER. God is no fool. We have to KNOW and UNDERSTAND the phrase "my kingdom is not of this world"... It is still on the planet- just not back then. That help some? "prepare YE the way of the Lord"... Hey... it's way more fun than we ever thought.
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Otherwise- if we divy up all of our physical stuff and become homeless, dirt poor and desperate in TODAY'S world- HOW WOULD THAT BE EASY AND LIGHT? Oh like what Pete continues to preach, all he needs is a bible, a zip lock baggie, reading glasses, a bridge to sleep under? I do understand what you are saying and several years ago I gave it all up. Bet you didn't know that! I did keep my bed.  (¯`•♥•´¯) ¤`•.♥.•´ ¤ (¯`•♥•´¯)
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