Close Please enter your Username and Password

KangarooColorado 57M
18 posts
1/25/2016 11:57 pm
How Do You Feel About Intelligent Design?

Imagine a first date. We've talked about the weather, and my goodness isn't there a lot of it about just now? Mine is sureley different from yours though we're just one global village in front of the TV - LOL. Let's chat about something that I find personally very interesting. Although I believe strongly in a fine tuned universe as proof of God's intimate involvement in creation, I wonder about the issue of Irreducible complexity? Is this pseudo science or is it in fact one more plank in the ark of sure belief in the Almighty.

According to Wiki, Irreducible complexity (IC) is a pseudoscientific argument that certain biological systems cannot be evolved by successive, slight modifications to a functional precursor system through natural selection. Central to the creationist concept of intelligent design, IC is rejected by the scientific community, which regards intelligent design as pseudoscience. Irreducible complexity is one of two main arguments used by intelligent design proponents, the other being specified complexity. Michael Behe, a professor of biochemistry at Lehigh University, first argued that irreducible complexity made evolution purely through natural selection of random mutations impossible. However, evolutionary biologists have demonstrated how such systems could have evolved. There are many examples documented through comparative genomics showing that complex molecular systems are formed by the addition of components as revealed by different temporal origins of their proteins. In the 2005 Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District trial, Behe gave testimony on the subject of irreducible complexity. The court found that "Professor Behe's claim for irreducible complexity has been refuted in peer-reviewed research papers and has been rejected by the scientific community at large."

Now folks, please, before anybody feels a little indignant by a newcommer who seems to want to show-off by introducing stuff that is beyond most of us - a real understanding of the issues anyway - please stop right there. I don't claim to understand this science or even very much about the debate. I would however look into your eyes with love and admiration if you do - LOL. I mean that. There's nothing sexier than a lady with a mind and the ability to say what's on her mind. Miss, may I carry your books?

Urban_Hermit 68M
317 posts
1/27/2016 9:36 pm

    Quoting restlesspirit:
    one of my thinking exercises over the years ,, since I have a science background is to establish compatibility between the natural sciences and Gods creation.. I have traveled though most of the USA,,, studied chemistry, physics and biology, am currently studying botany as in horticulture and the more I study the more I see a creater behind all this,,
Hi, I've found Kent Hovind and Chuck Missler very interesting on intelligent design. DNA, proteins etc cant come out of prehistoric 'soup' (left and right-handed proteins) all proteins in life are left-handed in DNA (Chirality) therefore cant be caused by random chance. If any were right-handed they'd be toxic.

Bacterial flagellum, look it up, it's amazing, a life form with an electric motor. He's the Wiki definition of it:

The bacterial flagellum is driven by a rotary engine (the Mot complex) made up of protein, located at the flagellum's anchor point on the inner cell membrane. The engine is powered by proton motive force, i.e., by the flow of protons (hydrogen ions) across the bacterial cell membrane due to a concentration gradient set up by the cell's metabolism (in Vibrio species there are two kinds of flagella, lateral and polar, and some are driven by a sodium ion pump rather than a proton pump[20]). The rotor transports protons across the membrane, and is turned in the process. The rotor alone can operate at 6,000 to 17,000 rpm, but with the flagellar filament attached usually only reaches 200 to 1000 rpm. The direction of rotation can be switched almost instantaneously, caused by a slight change in the position of a protein, FliG, in the rotor.[21] The flagellum is highly energy efficient and uses very little energy

The universe also proves God's creation without going into it all but evolutionists are starting to lose a major battle. Atheists cling to it as it will destroy their belief system to acknowledge a Creator. Cant wait for Creation to be taught in schools and Uni's

Judgement Day will be interesting.

Urban_Hermit 68M
317 posts
1/28/2016 9:04 pm

I'm glad you enjoyed Chuck Missler and Kent Hovind. If you like apologetics listen to John Lennox and Ravi Zacharias, they are amazing. God bless.

Judgement Day will be interesting.