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Chris4Christ 59M
72 posts
11/29/2013 10:55 pm
Pissing matches and flame wars


Although I've only been a member here for a short time, it's very obvious that this site doesn't vary much from many other chat sites.

The main similarities are that the membership here is comprised of people of different genders, nationalities, cultures, religious beliefs, political beliefs, etc.

One similarity that is both surprising and disappointing is, that this being a purportedly spiritually based site there are what I'm sure many would consider as personal attacks on others either in the chat rooms, or within personal blogs.

Trying to force feed one persons beliefs onto others by calling them and / or their beliefs anti-Christian, sadistic, evil, or even just calling their beliefs wrong doesn't make that one persons beliefs the right ones, just the loudest being proclaimed.

And then there's the name calling.
I've seen members typing hateful comments, sometimes even using vulgarities, all because they disagree with what another person posted.
This also doesn't validate one persons opinion over another's, but in effect it throws doubt as to the intentions of anyone's opinion from that point on.

Don't even get me started about the gossip and back biting. Are we not adults here?

If our goal here on earth is to follow our Savior's directions and the example that He set for us, then we are failing miserably.
To my knowledge Jesus never once used vulgar language to get His point across to an audience, nor did He turn away anyone who honestly wanted to follow Him and learn how to grow in the Lord.

I'm not perfect, I never have or will ever claim to be so.
I will stumble, yet will always stand again to continue my journey. Sometimes it may take longer than others to regain my footing, but I WILL stand again.
So please feel free to correct anything that I've posted that might be incorrect. I'm not afraid of constructive criticism.
And please, PLEASE prove me wrong by doing so without being forceful, disrespectful or vulgar about it.

At the end of the day I will love and pray for anyone and everyone, because I will give my most earnest effort to try to do what our Lord Jesus Christ Himself would do.
That's MY goal.

Chris4Christ 59M
118 posts
11/30/2013 8:18 am

    Quoting  :

Thank you for the warm welcome ,racefan4!

I'm aware of that scripture explaining that there's a time for love, a time for hate, etc.
However if we are to just simply sit back like bystanders and let the sin happen, then we are no better, but in fact are actually worse off because WE know better, than some of those who are committing those sins.

This is a wicked world that we live in, and only by following the instructions given us by our Lord will it help sustain us until He calls his children home.


Sojourner06 60M
1768 posts
11/30/2013 8:29 am

Hi Chris

Welcome to Blogland.

I saw your writings earlier, but I had to care of cleaning the sewers of Blogland.

We are having a little problem with a toilet.

But I believe that will be taken care of soon.

Blessings




Mogens

I Can Explain It To You, But I Can’t Understand It For You

Good News For Christian Man ABP

"REVELATION"


Sojourner06 60M
1768 posts
11/30/2013 8:34 am

    Quoting  :

Hi Chris.

I can from above see our local "prophet" are trying to make a new disciple; You.

With all due respect of you, I will suggest you start by taking a closer look at his "Teachings of God".

I am not the one to decide for you what to believe or not.

Just be careful with this member.

Blessings




Mogens

I Can Explain It To You, But I Can’t Understand It For You

Good News For Christian Man ABP

"REVELATION"


Sojourner06 60M
1768 posts
11/30/2013 8:42 am

    Quoting  :

Hi SoH.

1 correction: Whether you are saved or unsaved depends on the fruits of your life. Not all of your words.

I have made a Post that you are to answer, and until that is done point by point and to the satisfaction of the Holy Spirit you are to be seen as a sinner who will not repent from your evil doings.

I - and many others - have told you a lot of times to repent from your doings of evil.

We have seen no repentance so far.

Blessings




Mogens

I Can Explain It To You, But I Can’t Understand It For You

Good News For Christian Man ABP

"REVELATION"


Sojourner06 60M
1768 posts
11/30/2013 8:45 am

Hi SoH

"Like lemmings they follow your sin and error against God and His Name."

Taking the name of God in vain.

We have told you before, and now I will do it again:

You are STILL not God.

And God is STILL not a servant of yours.

Blessings




Mogens

I Can Explain It To You, But I Can’t Understand It For You

Good News For Christian Man ABP

"REVELATION"


Sojourner06 60M
1768 posts
11/30/2013 8:48 am

Hi Chris.

Feel free to erase Post on your Blog as you please.

On my behalf I will not complain.

Blessings




Mogens

I Can Explain It To You, But I Can’t Understand It For You

Good News For Christian Man ABP

"REVELATION"


Chris4Christ 59M
118 posts
11/30/2013 8:56 am

    Quoting  :

sonofHilkiah, thank you for the warm welcome...oh wait, you didn't welcome me yet? That's ok, I'm sure it just slipped your mind?

Please understand that although I will respect your opinions and beliefs, I may not agree with them. That doesn't make me right and you wrong, or vise-versa. It just means that we don't think alike, that's it, don't put anymore into it than that.

And I certainly won't tolerate you using my blog as your own personal soapbox to either defend yourself and what you believe to be truth, or to attack others. Please take that to your OWN blog.

If you'd like to comment in my blog using a mature attitude and not go on the attack against me or others who might disagree with you, then you are welcome here. If not, I will kindly ask you to stop posting here ONCE before I ban you from my blog.
This has got nothing to do with me jumping on a supposed "bash sonofHilkiah bandwagon". This is just ME telling YOU how it's going to be in MY blog. It's as simple as that. Nothing more nothing less. Take it or leave it.
Are we clear?


Chris4Christ 59M
118 posts
11/30/2013 9:00 am

    Quoting BlueAir:
    Hi Chris, I for one would like to welcome you to the blogs! Hopefully things will calm down soon, I love writing here... it's such a shame that things are turning volatile especially considering we're embarking upon the holidays. May we not forget who Christ is at this crucial time! God bless.
Thank you for the welcome, BlueAir.

I understand that all chat sites will go through cycles like this, but to get it back on track we as members here need to recognize that it needs help and not just let things run rampant.


Sojourner06 60M
1768 posts
11/30/2013 9:11 am

    Quoting  :

Hi Mr. Meow.

I like "Pissing matches and flame wars" a lot.
To call a spade a spade.

Sounds much better than the recent one Quote: "...I pisseth upon your "god" and would suggest you do the same." (Gorgy).

Blessings




Mogens

I Can Explain It To You, But I Can’t Understand It For You

Good News For Christian Man ABP

"REVELATION"


Chris4Christ 59M
118 posts
11/30/2013 9:29 am

    Quoting  :

You certainly are articulate and have a way with words. You're also very knowledgeable of bible scriptures. I commend you, well done.
But the enemy himself can quote scripture and speak as a scholar better than any of us can.
Please, tell me why you should be believed over anyone else here. And don't just reference scripture, I want to read it in your own words why you apparently think you are better/holier/more saved than anyone else here.
I may be new to this site, but of the many blogs that I've read, I see your comments in nearly all of them, more so than anyone else. AND all are chastising others for their views / beliefs. Why is that?

And your little attack on me in trying to group me with those whom YOU deem sinful? I'll let it slide this time, since I hadn't pre-warned you that I won't tolerate that yet.
But let's get a few things thing straight here; I won't be bullied by you. I won't be intimidated by you. Heck, I won't even be offended by you.
And as far as your name here on this site, I could really care less what you chose to call yourself. It's JUST a name, and makes you no more saved or closer to God than anyone else here. If it makes you feel better to claim that God himself gave you that name, then so be it. It doesn't change MY walk with Him.

Whether you are a righteous man or not, you have neither the power nor authority to rebuke me for what YOU think is against God.
That's His domain and responsibility. And from reading bible scripture (the same bible scripture that you quote from), I haven't seen anywhere that He takes kindly of people doing things in His name that He didn't give explicit directions to do so.

Have a nice day, and happy posting to you.


Chris4Christ 59M
118 posts
11/30/2013 9:34 am

    Quoting restlesspirit:
    Chris not everyone on here is a mature Christian or christian at all..unfortunately to much of that is what brought this site down the first time. People come on here hurting and wounded, and express that in their posts.I know. I did when I first came in here,,
    On here u pick ur friends you wanna know, and ignore the backbiters and gossipers and the like, its a learning experience but there are true believers on here and that makes it worth coming.
Yes, I have already seen that not everyone here is mature or a Christian.
The maturity issue is one that is never going to go away. We are all sinners and have our faults. None of us here are perfect, and anyone claiming or even alluding to such is either lying or is foolish for thinking so. It's how we address our individual imperfections and faults, AND those of others that will either make or break us as followers of our Lord.

This website is called "BigChurch.com", not "BigChurch.com". There are members of other faiths here, and regardless of whether any of us as Christians agree with their interpretation of the bible (or if they have their own "bible"), criticizing their beliefs rather than discussing why we feel they aren't what Jesus preached is akin to sweetening a cake with vinegar. It's not only counter-productive, but it weakens the "chef" as well.

My first blog post here isn't to point out anyone in particular, but was addressed to EVERY member on this site. We ALL need to take a good look within ourselves, and pray to the Lord for guidance BEFORE offering advice or answering a question of anyone.
The enemy is stronger than any of us here are giving him credit for, and will do whatever it takes to try to turn us away from our God.
It's up to us to not allow that to happen.


Chris4Christ 59M
118 posts
11/30/2013 9:53 am

    Quoting  :

Thank you for so kindly pointing that out. I'm well aware that Jesus gave up his life to forgive us our sins. Now knowing such, it us up to US to either follow Him and the instruction to repent (turn away from) sin, or to not follow Him.
Just as the Lord himself gave to Adam and Eve, He has also given to us the gift of choice. Most of us know right from wrong....good from evil. Therefore, it is US that know the difference to make the decision to follow him or not. If it weren't so, how do you explain the millions of people in this world who know good from bad, yet unrepentantly sin anyway?


Chris4Christ 59M
118 posts
11/30/2013 10:09 am

    Quoting Sojourner06:
    Hi Chris.

    I can from above see our local "prophet" are trying to make a new disciple; You.

    With all due respect of you, I will suggest you start by taking a closer look at his "Teachings of God".

    I am not the one to decide for you what to believe or not.

    Just be careful with this member.

    Blessings



    Mogens
Thank you for the welcome.

I appreciate the warning. But even though my walk with the Lord has just begun (again), I'm aware enough to know that I shouldn't take anything anyone else proclaims as to being the word of God as fact without researching it. Heck, even the pastor at my church recommends that we all should read the scripture being taught for reproof that we are being instructed properly.


Sojourner06 60M
1768 posts
11/30/2013 2:17 pm

    Quoting Chris4Christ:
    Thank you for the welcome.

    I appreciate the warning. But even though my walk with the Lord has just begun (again), I'm aware enough to know that I shouldn't take anything anyone else proclaims as to being the word of God as fact without researching it. Heck, even the pastor at my church recommends that we all should read the scripture being taught for reproof that we are being instructed properly.

Hi Chris.

You are welcome.

Nice to meet one more mature Christian in here.

And nice to know you are not just believing what I write.

Blessings




Mogens

I Can Explain It To You, But I Can’t Understand It For You

Good News For Christian Man ABP

"REVELATION"


Chris4Christ 59M
118 posts
11/30/2013 7:34 pm

    Quoting  :

[SIZE 3No offense taken.
I've been online pretty much since the internet was made public, so I've developed a fairly thick skin during that span.

Sometimes I may come off as being uncaring or emotionless in my comments, but that's rarely the case. If I'm bothered by something though, I'm not one to bite my tongue either.
]


Chris4Christ 59M
118 posts
11/30/2013 8:27 pm

    Quoting  :

I don't know which to address first, the "he attacked me first" issue, or your question of why you feel you're being singled out.

Let's tackle the first one, shall we?

The third reply into my blog was penned by you.
And while I can understand your feeling of being slighted by comments from others, you went straight after them rather than even acknowledge the fact that this is someone else's blog, nor did that first post by you even remotely mention what this blog is about.
In fact, it exemplifies nearly everything I wrote in my initial post in this blog.
I don't know where you come from our how you were raised, and that's none of my business. But that's disrespectful behavior where I come from.

You could have taken the high road and not even responded to anything that was said, yet you chose not to (remember, God imparted on us the ability to make our own choices). But by replying to what was said, it drags you right down into the dirty, sinful hole that you claim everyone else here is in. Misery loves company?

Now had you started with a simple "Hello" or "welcome to Big Church" towards me prior to defending yourself, then it probably wouldn't make your posts seem quite so combative.

Look, I don't hate you.
I don't hate anyone. And I can honestly say that I've yet to meet anyone worth wasting that much energy or time on.
But like I alluded to in an earlier post, repeatedly screaming at the top of your lungs (in text form) doesn't make you or your point valid, it just makes you the loudest. And people like that tend to be either ignored, or ostracized.

Just remember, this blog is my playground. If you don't like the rules, you can always take your ball and go play elsewhere.


Chris4Christ 59M
118 posts
11/30/2013 9:06 pm

To be fair to everyone here, I ask that everyone please refrain from using this blog as your own personal soapbox or to attack others, be it openly or disguised in a comment.
Stuff like that should be done either in your own blog, or via a private message to whomever you are taking issue with.

The posts here so far have accomplished everything that I outlined in MY first post...pissing matches and flame wars.
For every disagreement or argument that any of us have, for every nasty comment or thing said to someone else, the enemy creates a space for more long-term guests.

And this isn't just about the current members here.
Think of what happens if a new BC member, and particularly one who's a new believer, sees all of this. It's something that can not only stumble them, but put them totally off of Christ. And that in turn compromises our own eternal lives.
I don't know about anyone else, but I sure don't want to be the reason for someone else not making it into Heaven. Whether it be directly responsible or not.


Chris4Christ 59M
118 posts
12/1/2013 12:38 pm

Egads, you are wordsmith, aren't you?

Only one, yes, ONE poster prior to you directly mentioned you (Normally, as a rule, the blogs are peaceful and edifying. But we have a resident "son" here who is a bully). The other poster only stated that "not everyone here is a mature Christian or christian at all..."
Now being a new member here, am I supposed to automatically know that the mature Christian comment was about you? To me the comment is cautioning me that everyone here is not a "mature Christian", or "a Christian at all" for that matter.

At least both of them FIRST acknowledged me and replied to the subject matter.
Your first words weren't anything along the line of a greeting (I assume you're unhappy that I'm a member here?). You went right away to not just defending yourself, but attacking them back, using insults (amoeba? Really??) to return their attacks. This not only makes you no better than those you call un-Christian, it makes you a hypocrite.

And as far as being a servant of the Lord yet not owning anything (this blog) of this world, I never claimed that. I simply stated that this blog that I started is in my possession, and I have the sole authority to either allow or disallow what I see fit to.
So please, stop twisting my words around.

And no one that I've seen thus far is mocking Jesus, God or the Holy Spirit. I do see some have mocked you, that is true. Yet while the Holy Spirit might be within you, YOU are neither God, Jesus or the Holy Spirit.
Like I told you in my second post to you, I could care less what you call yourself, or that YOU claim that God gave you your name here. None of that makes you God, or Jesus.
That in itself is blasphemy.[/

And for someone that says they've been online since 2006, here at BC in particular, should know that typing in ALL CAPS is considered to be yelling. So is it someone else's fault that you don't know that?

What do I do when someone mocks me right before my face? I smile, walk away, and PRAY for them. And I recommend that you do the same. Jesus himself instructed us (Matthew 5:39)But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
C'mon, everyone knows that verse!

The Lord didn't instruct, command or teach us to "defend his name". I'm pretty sure he can manage that on his own. So why do you feel that it's your given task to do so?

And when I said in my fist post to you: "Please understand that although I will respect your opinions and beliefs, I may not agree with them. That doesn't make me right and you wrong, or vise-versa. It just means that we don't think alike, that's it, don't put anymore into it than that." It doesn't mean that I simply condone anything and everything. My stand is that I don't know you at all, and therefore will not just take anything you say as from God. Like I said before, you quote scripture well, but so does the enemy. Thank you, but I'll stick to what I'VE been taught.

I'm tiring of this useless banter and insinuations that you're holier than anyone else, so lets call this "warning #1"


Chris4Christ 59M
118 posts
12/1/2013 2:30 pm

    Quoting  :

I'm NOT sorry that I have a life outside of this website and don't just sit online all day. By actually having a life outside of BC, it makes it incredibly hard for me to delete comments or reply to yours or others as quickly as you'd like. *wishing there was a "rolls eyes" emoticon*

And please stop trying to portray yourself as some kind of martyr because your MANY posts here are the only ones that I've addressed thus far, it's very unbecoming.


Chris4Christ 59M
118 posts
12/1/2013 2:34 pm

Like I originally said, you're welcome here as long as you can reply without name calling or attacking others.

Your previous comment to me already earned you my promised only warning, please don't make me ban you because you can't control yourself.


Chris4Christ 59M
118 posts
12/1/2013 7:45 pm

    Quoting  :

You lay claim to being a Christian, but your attitude, arrogance and holier-than-everyone-else demeanor and blasphemous meanderings speak to the opposite.
I can claim to be Superman because I own a t-shirt emblazoned with a large 'S' on the front, that certainly doesn't make me Superman.
So until someone sees me flying, bouncing bullets off my chest and stopping locomotives, I'm just another guy that owns a t-shirt emblazoned with an 'S' on it.

Matthew 5:29/30(KJV)
29And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy MEMBERS should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
30And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy MEMBERS should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

See, I can quote scripture that's applicable to this discussion too. And the scripture I quoted originated from Jesus himself, hence the RED colored text. I think that trumps your scripture, no?

This is my favorite part of your mini-tirade:
And do what YOU THINK is right before God. Don't threaten, just do it!

Consider it done!

And your parting shot:I will judge.
Wow, again with the blasphemous prattle?
News flash; God is the only one who has the authority, power and the right to judge any one of us. And you certainly aren't God.

Oddly enough, I actually feel sorry for you.
Maybe it's because I have compassion. Please don't mistake that compassion as being stupid and NOT banning you from my blog, you called your own shot there, champ.
I'll still pray for you though, because I believe that anyone can be saved, even you.


Sojourner06 60M
1768 posts
12/6/2013 3:18 pm

    Quoting Sojourner06:
    Hi Chris.

    I can from above see our local "prophet" are trying to make a new disciple; You.

    With all due respect of you, I will suggest you start by taking a closer look at his "Teachings of God".

    I am not the one to decide for you what to believe or not.

    Just be careful with this member.

    Blessings



    Mogens
Hi Chris4Christ.

I just came back to withdraw above post written by me.

I see you are capable to take care of yourself

Blessings


Mogens

I Can Explain It To You, But I Can’t Understand It For You

Good News For Christian Man ABP

"REVELATION"


Chris4Christ 59M
118 posts
12/7/2013 9:53 am

    Quoting Sojourner06:
    Hi Chris4Christ.

    I just came back to withdraw above post written by me.

    I see you are capable to take care of yourself

    Blessings

    Mogens
It's fine, I understand you were just trying to be helpful to a newbie here.


Chris4Christ 59M
118 posts
12/7/2013 11:22 am

sonofHilkiah.

I unbanned you from posting in my blog not because one of us is right and the other wrong. I unbanned you because my posts quoting you looked out of place without your original posts to confirm that I'm quoting you directly. And in all fairness, you haven't banned me from posting in your blogs.

Can we all agree to play nice, and please keep any posts to the subject title?


RockyG666 63M
1357 posts
12/11/2013 4:07 pm

ackchooly criss, jesus called the pharisees whitewashed tombs and that was fairly vulgar at the time and TOTALLY a backbiting insult. it meant that they covered up on the outside and looked good, but that they were dead inside. jesus called things as they were and was not all mamby pamby fake nice nice. when someone crossed his line he stood up and let them know on no uncertain terms.


Chris4Christ 59M
118 posts
10/18/2018 6:06 pm

I’m sorry May, I only understand English, so I’m not sure what you posted.


Chris4Christ 59M
118 posts
10/22/2018 9:14 am

I can understand the words in your post now, thank you.
However, I’m still unsure of what you are actually talking about.

Are you responding to this particular blog post that I made FIVE years ago? 😳