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One Way Conversations? The title, "One Way Conversations", is really a contradiction. A conversation implies two ways. One person talks and the other listens. Then the listening person responds to what was said, while the first listens before responding. When a conversation is not occurring in this manner, but the listener is only waiting to talk his/her agenda, and not at all responding to what was said, it is a dead end communication. One way conversations is a misnomer. Scripture advises us to not listen to this. This is not communication. It is talking past each other. It is a waste of time and in fact harmful. Light can not talk with darkness. There is no fellowship between evil and the righteousness. I feel sick when I think about people in chat or on the blogs trying to communicate with people who are not communicating. It is no surprise that well intended persons are upset. But, after a while they have only themselves to blame for continuing to listen to them. When the religious leaders talked to Jesus there was little communication that happened. They would not listen to Jesus. They responded not, but continued to talk their agenda. Then Jesus, using His communication skills, talked past the road blocks in their minds and made them see how ridiculous and self serving was their agenda. This only infuriated them the more. The window of opportunity to reach them was very short. From then on there was no conversation, just talking past each other. It was a waste of Jesus' time and it is a waste of ours. Do yourself and BC a favor and stop listening to these people. Ban them. Ignore them. Ban them. Ignore them. WE are only drinking poison when we continue to listen and talk to them. Ban them, ignore them. Would Jesus talk to them? Would He? Until they are ready to listen, they will not hear. They will only turn and try to hurt. Hurting people hurt. They need to hurt more. Darkness is never so dark as blind souls listening only to themselves. We are actually doing them a favor, a big favor, when we ban them. Only this will get their attention, if there is any possibility of that left. Do we think life is not serious? Can we listen to the news everyday and not see the meanness in the world? I hope the day comes when we believe Jesus in His telling us to be wise, yet harmless. Where is the wisdom in listening to blasphemy? Some people just desperately need to be banned. Do them the favor of helping them by banning them. At least they will respect this. They just laugh at us as long as we listen to their spill. Jesus banned them. Once they stopped listening to Him, then He said they would never see Him again until they learned to cry, "blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord". Jesus told us that if they persecuted Him, they will persecute us the more. They want to hear only the chimes at midnight, not the beautiful Voice of Light at noon day. There is only one reason I can think of that people will not ban and ignore these hurtful people, and that is because perhaps we are not sold out to Jesus? Are we really lukewarm? Are we playing both ends against the middle? Are we fence straddlers? Do we really think we can have it both ways, the world of light and the world of darkness? We have to choose who we will serve. If we refuse to choose, then by default we have chosen darkness. Choose light and ban darkness. Ignore them. Ban them. Quit straddling, quit listening. Make Jesus proud, not ashamed of us. Allow Him to call us his brothers and sisters. Do we want Him to say He never knew us? Be wise. Be committed. |
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Good blog,,,good comments...I bet accuracy can be seen in everything mentioned here....Here's the thing,,,banning is necessary during times that people are at risk,,,be it physical,,,spiritual,,,mental....I am not talking about being in the same realm or page as people...I am talking about safety.....At some point each one of us have dealt with the obnoxious BigChurch people...This forum attracts those types like a moth to a flame...When the pestering becomes persistent,,,obsessive,,,it becomes vital to pass the torch of reaching out onto another...All doors will not close......Banning may not equal shunning.......Don't give up and don't give in.........Shalom
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Sometimes, when I get too obnoxious and unruly, I ban myself till I settle down. I just refuse to tolerate or listen to me when I get like that. LOL
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Maybe I am just too far removed from these contentious people or they have chosen to leave me alone, but I rarely get any of their attention. Of course I ban and ignore them. After that they seem to leave. I am sorry women have so much to endure. Men are really frustrated today. All this is motivation of life to grow up. I went through it. What I did not learn in adolescence seemed to be compounded frustration in adulthood. I am always your friend and hope you will let the Light lead you to post when you have something.
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You are so right. I had to go back to graduate school and major in communication to undo the formative years of my life and relearn how to have a conversation. Relationships can not survive one way communication. Jesus is our example and He is so good at conversation. This is why I was so happy and thrilled to visit San Francisco and see the intersection of Haight & Ashbury streets where the hippie movement began. Even though these people looked weird they were sick of the role play model. What they learned by going all the way back to basics was then written down in books and first taught in the universities. That's when I picked it up around 1980. Blessings always.
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Drifter, may I express appreciation for your sensitivity in discussion and some meaningful insights. I hope you will be okay with another viewpoint. I believe that words do hurt and destroy. I believe that BigChurch is a Church gathering. There are Christians here who are being threatened, abused, and demeaned. I appreciate your heart welcoming all, but all can not be welcomed but on Jesus terms only. His family is based on love, and hate has no place in the Christian community but hatred of evil. The internet is electronic communication. The devil uses it through people. But, so does the Holy Spirit. The major problem of the internet is it's power that may bring us back to the tower of Babel experience of the human race. My worry is are we ready for this much power? I do not think so. Still, we can use this platform to educate and motivate and support the Christian community, and witness Light to the world. I agree we are intruders into the devil's domain. Jesus said as much and that the gates of hell wound not withstand His intrusion. Remember Jesus said He came to destroy the works of the devil and to release the captives. These quarrels go on in local church's as well. They have lead to wars even, or as an excuse for war. I wish you would think about protecting people here more and not worry so much about the ones who are doing the hurting of others. There have been some fine people on here who just could not or would not stand for the verbal abuse they got here. There needs to be balance between banning and welcoming.
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Good blog,,,good comments...I bet accuracy can be seen in everything mentioned here....Here's the thing,,,banning is necessary during times that people are at risk,,,be it physical,,,spiritual,,,mental....I am not talking about being in the same realm or page as people...I am talking about safety.....At some point each one of us have dealt with the obnoxious BigChurch people...This forum attracts those types like a moth to a flame...When the pestering becomes persistent,,,obsessive,,,it becomes vital to pass the torch of reaching out onto another...All doors will not close......Banning may not equal shunning.......Don't give up and don't give in.........Shalom
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Sometimes, when I get too obnoxious and unruly, I ban myself till I settle down. I just refuse to tolerate or listen to me when I get like that. LOL
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I am happy for you and your maturing experience. To ban or not to ban is the question. I am glad you saw how much it helps both sides to use the ban. It gives protection and a wake up call. Evil communication or continuing to listen will corrupt. We must choose who and what we listen too because soon enough we will become like who and what we listen too.
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Safety is the issue alright. This is the heart of my protest about people who attack and people who continue to tolerate it past the point of civility. Jesus took it very serious regarding any attack on the faith of people. Hang in there also.
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Haha!
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When Jeremiah was banned on many bloggs under many alias this was a concerted effort. It was a united effort of the women on here who communicate with each other a lot. We guys could not have done it by ourselves. We guys do not communicate with each other that much, just comment from time to time on each others blogs. Since women are getting the brunt of the aggressive demeaning speech, I suggest when ladies you have had enough, and you know together when that is, then sound the call and us guys will join you and ban them. Usually I have already banned them as I don't waste any time with these people. So ladies, talk about it together, then ban them and tell us guys and I am sure most of us will follow and support you.
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Lily we can be united when, strange as it may seem, you women who talk to each other a lot, unite and agree who needs to be banned and then ban them and let us guys know, and most of us guys will ban them. There is no doubt that women on here get the worst of it, so let us guys know who desperately needs banning and I will surely ban them, other guys will also I believe. This will do two things. It will make the blogs of the ones we usually visit safer, and also your own blog safe.
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Just tell me anytime who is treating you this way and I will happily ban them again and again. If you ask any of the usuals ones on here we talk with to also ban them, I believe they will support you, especially the women. If it is a woman who is the problem, then she must be know as well by the other women. Just talk to each other, agree and let us guys know. I believe most of us are in here for the long haul and so it will be in our best interest to keep the house cleaned up from time to time.
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Strange as this may sound Lily, we can be united if you women will agree and lead the way. Usually when a woman is in trouble she will instinctively scream. Guys hear the scream and come running. So unite with other women first, then tell us guys, and together we will be united and ban who needs to be gone for a while until they learn not to blaspheme. Then your blog and your friends blogs where you comment will be safer. Blessings always.
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Right on brother Richard 
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When someone is attacking everyone, men and women, it is obvious that we can be united and ban them until they stop or leave. When they are attacking only women, then it will require two or more in agreement said Jesus before we ban them. If two women agree and this is supported by a few other women I have no problem banning anyone they say as long as it is agreed upon by two women and supported by a few other women. The truth is established by two women supported by some other women and us guys. I think we should support this when it is done like this.
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You have suffered too long alone in that case. Just please tell some other woman on here and if you are in agreement that you are being harmfully harassed, then tell the rest of us both women and men and I will be glad to ban them. Jesus told us how to deal with these kinds of problems. Start with two witnesses He said then tell the Church and then ban them if they don't stop. You have backup now, so are we please going to obey Jesus? Just get some other woman to understand and support you and tell me and I will support you and inform others like the ones here who are already in agreement about this. This would include forgotu, exodus24, lily, terrie, ky woman, and others you may know. Please be willing to ban them also. We can make a clean safe place to communicate. Already several have said just make the call.
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Strength in numbers is what helped us before. WE learned from that and now are prepared to maintain it and do it again. We can create a safe haven here for multiple people. It is worth it by far. I enjoy supporting and being reaffirmed and discussing current issues. Over all this site has been a blessing to me. I have had my share of pounding. Blessing to you always.
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With two undergraduate degrees and one graduate degree in interpersonal communication, education has been a help to me. My spiritual gift is prophecy and service. I like to read, study, write, and now travel some for a better perspective on life. I am happy for you in your college work and experience. My favorite building was and still is the Student Union. I could hang out there all day, drink coffee, munch, talk, and study some. At Berkley that was the first building I wanted to see. They have a coffee service of flavors from all over the world. Blessings always.
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I concur....Our resident stalker Mytch/RueHue informed Ms Freewayryder that he pulled his handle to create a 'new and improved one'....Ha.....What that means is he was banned in blogs,,,ignored in chat by numerous people and the one he's been stalking,,,he needs to create a new nom de plume to spew his hate all over the blogs he was banned from..............Keeping tabs on these games is needed at this time......Expect new handles,,,new profiles,,,more calamities..........
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I have banned RueHue and Jeremiah plus others already for a long time. If there is any attacks on my blog you will be safe from that as I will immediately ban them. Please do me a favor and let it be a one sided attack. I do not communicate at all with these kind of people. I just ban them straight away, no questions asked, no discussion, no apology, just adios. Please, please do yourself a favor and the rest of us, who are and will back you up, by not engaging in any way with these people from here on. I suggest you ask the owner of the blog if this is the kind of attack they will allow on their site and ask them to take care of it. Bring these attacks to our attention also, like Terrie, Exodus24, forgotu, and any others. The point of all this is to stop attacks upon individuals. The point is not to decide who is right, and who is wrong in their views, but only to stop the attacks. Its one thing to have a dissenting view or even a crazy view, but much more another thing to attack, demean, and personally insult. It is the insulting that we want to stop. Please do not attack back. Tell the blog owner to look at what is being said and ask them to ban the attacking person who is insulting and demeaning. It looks to me like at least half a dozen people on here will keep their site clean of this insulting behavior. Also, when someone demeans me and I ban them I never afterward read any post of theirs even if they post about me because I do not need to defend myself to my friends on here. I have confidence in Terrie, and I hope she will keep her word and her site clear of attacks.
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I believe our goal is to create a safe haven by banning maybe on a dozen sites where people can share without being insulted. When new people come in we can advise them of this safe area. I would like to get pledges of people who will commit to keeping a site clean of insulting personal comments.
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You are welcome. It is long overdue that we take a stand. I wrote this on your last blog post but it would not post, so here it is: In this world Christianity is odd, but normal in reality, as in reality it is the world that is odd. The Lord first loved us. So now it is our turn. In giving we receive. In loving we are loved. Once we love somebody, we will be loved by somebody. We can have only what we share. Only in a relationship of two somebodies can we experience our being. We can not be without somebody. With somebody we can finally be who we are. Only love can keep it from being a house of cards. We are born immature receivers. By being born again we can become mature givers and be loved by a mature somebody.
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Update: Sonickname is RueHue....Came back under a new guise.......
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Update: Sonickname is RueHue....Came back under a new guise.......
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