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ARE WE NOT DEFEATING THE WHOLE PURPOSE!!!!!! There is obviously a cold war happening here, two many blogs flying around, trying to point out where the other is going wrong. I don't know if I am wrong, it appears no-one is listening to the other so as far as I see it's defeating the purpose of being what we all are, true brethen in christ. Let me ask if a non-believer was to come on the site just for a week, what do you think will be the result. I might be wrong, and might be blowing things out of proportion here but I do think we need to stop this little cold war happening, it is becoming very demoralizing. I beg you, in that name we all profess to love. Yours in christ Jan |
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Amen! I agree! Live like there's no tomorrow Laugh when you feel like crying Love like you've never been hurt
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8/29/2010 7:42 pm |
Well I know one thing. The big problem here besides some who are heartless is that many don't know how communicate and that is shown in part because they can't respond or even show the love of Christ. I know Jesus knew grammar very well. His words were clear to those who were not blind. But I'm serious. Seriously many of us have to pick up are ability to understand and comprehend. The schools throughout history were given freebies to pass anyone without them really learning. I can see that anywhere on the net and in mostly everybook. Even those books I agree with. Believe me, teachers don't really teach the right way. Most don't. I can see that again everywhere, but even I have some communicative failures. I guess some of us just don't have time to master the english language. So only God can change hearts but only a good student wants to learn the right way.
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8/29/2010 8:55 pm |
Hazelpride... There are cliques here. Discern them. I belong to a remnant of true believers. I come in the Name of Christ. And there are those who don't, but come in their own name and receive their own names' reward. Discern those that stand against me and the Lord that sent me. There are a couple of misguided, unknowledgeable, and ignorant brethren here that are against me... The others are not saved. Pagan. Heathen. Unsanctified. Where Bible And Christian Meet If You Only Knew
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8/29/2010 10:49 pm |
Thank you for agreeing with me. Where Bible And Christian Meet If You Only Knew
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8/29/2010 11:38 pm |
People are people, no matter where you go. In many ways this site is like our local churches. Many people come here, but not everyone talks. Among those that do, some are worth listening to, and speak words of edification. Others claim to speak the Word of God, but are in fact speaking their opinions of the Word. Others yet just plain speak their opinions even if you didn't ask for them. Some folks are all about themselves, some are all about Jesus, some pretend to be all about Jesus, some at least try to be all about Jesus, some want to be all about Jesus, but don't know which way to go. The thing to really watch for is who makes a big production and drama to tell you they are speaking the Word, in contrast to who speaks the Word by just simply speaking it. In the O.T. none of the true prophets or teachers of God ever announced themselves. Either they were announced by someone else, or they just simply spoke what God gave them to speak. Noting those who did, or do go to lengths to announce themselves is the quickest, and easiest way to spot a false teacher, or false prophet. They are here just like they are in our churches. We need to be as wise as serpents, but as harmless as doves. Isaiah 66:2b; But to this one I will look, To him who is humble and contrite of spirit, and who trembles at My word.
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8/30/2010 1:57 am |
People are people, no matter where you go. In many ways this site is like our local churches. Many people come here, but not everyone talks. Among those that do, some are worth listening to, and speak words of edification. Others claim to speak the Word of God, but are in fact speaking their opinions of the Word. Others yet just plain speak their opinions even if you didn't ask for them. Some folks are all about themselves, some are all about Jesus, some pretend to be all about Jesus, some at least try to be all about Jesus, some want to be all about Jesus, but don't know which way to go. The thing to really watch for is who makes a big production and drama to tell you they are speaking the Word, in contrast to who speaks the Word by just simply speaking it. In the O.T. none of the true prophets or teachers of God ever announced themselves. Either they were announced by someone else, or they just simply spoke what God gave them to speak. Noting those who did, or do go to lengths to announce themselves is the quickest, and easiest way to spot a false teacher, or false prophet. They are here just like they are in our churches. We need to be as wise as serpents, but as harmless as doves. RESPONSE: Lie and heresy. Let the Word of God establish truth! Exodus 3:13-18a..."And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them? 14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. 15 And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, The Lord God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations. 16 Go, and gather the elders of Israel together, and say unto them, The Lord God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, of Isaac, and of Jacob, appeared unto me, saying, I have surely visited you, and seen that which is done to you in Egypt: 17 And I have said, I will bring you up out of the affliction of Egypt unto the land of the Canaanites, and the Hittites, and the Amorites, and the Perizzites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites, unto a land flowing with milk and honey. 18 And they shall hearken to thy voice..." And ONLY the people of God shall hearken to [my] voice! And a remnant has! And a remnant will! And since you do not hearken unto the voice of my Lord, and you do all to oppose me, this makes you my enemy and an enemy of the Lord! The Satan is YOU! Where Bible And Christian Meet If You Only Knew
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Longing4more I totally disagree with your idea of talking, there have being name calling in some of the blogs, how is that talking along christian way. I am not totally naive after all I am 40yrs old, yes a very young christian but I know when things seem totally wrong, name calling does not show any streak of christianity at all.
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8/30/2010 8:00 am |
Hello Hazelpride. If I may... BOB...Can you please tell me what is the Good News of "Jesus Christ?" Thank you. Where Bible And Christian Meet If You Only Knew
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Thanks longing4more. I do understand, where people congregate, whether it's a church, sport, or whatever disagreement will be there. Usually any site people get to know people's characters, the ones who will stir trouble no matter what or the peacemakers, why is it then we feed the trouble makers with ammunition, if everyone ignored the trouble causers just like Siennasun said, it would make this place peaceful. If people just ignored. That to me makes intelligent sense. Some people will never see any other way, other than their own.
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8/31/2010 12:29 am |
All I want to know is: Is it love when someone tells you to put a cork in it? 
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8/31/2010 12:33 am |
Quoting Sienna: There is the problem in a nutshell. Steps back and watches that one sail right over someones' head and says a prayer: May God go with him on his Journey to get a clue. 
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Thank you, Siennasun and 4gvrnr I will think about it. I hate being driven out, but sometimes if it starts to compromise the very essence of why I am here, then I will take time off. Jan
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I thank you, for your advice Donny, (and it's ok to call me by my name) I do realise that I am taking christians at face value and I should not, and do also understand that I am still a spiritual babe, and will grow with time. I have to admit that I was really disillusioned by the number of blogs flying around, and I thought to myself, this can't be right. I have being on blogs not related to christianity and people always seemed to agree to disagree at times and moved on to the next chapter of life, sometimes we just can't agree on everything and that is fine. Thank you for your concern and will take your advice to heart.
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To Donny, Thanks, I take it all in, and I do get what you are saying. I do meditate, a lot when I read a bible verse, chapter or when I read and I can relate to the wisphers you say. I did not kind of understand them at first, but they do really guide me a lot. You know, I totally agree with you about God talking to us through his word, and also he uses our hearts to discern from earthly desires and yearning that does not give him glory. I am still shading away old skin of my past and I suppose something will die hard, but I am determined to have them die. Have you ever had this desire that is so overwhelming strong, that you need God at whatever cost. I always felt like this even in my time of aspiring to the flesh, and even in that time, I always prayed to God that I need to relate with you somehow, and then it just happened, like you said he called. I feel at home in his glory, yet I know am so illitrate on his word, and you know God came to fish out man from their sins and make them whole, yet satan (the devil) is here to fish our christians from their faith. The battle is to get my armour on, the word, understand it and discern, so that I don't get attacked by him. I have so much happening to me, not on a fleshy sense but spiritual, will probably do some blogs on it and thanks will ask for advice when I am in doubt if you don't mind.
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9/3/2010 5:01 am |
All I saw was a person trying to bring about unity with thier post and in return many just gave explanations and reasons why earth is a broken place or a justification as to why it isn;t that big of a deal. I may not see the whole picture in regards to this issue - but what i do see is people doing a lot of preaching and little listening - (That is a generalization and not at all inclusive of everyone) I think your desire for unity is a good one and also one that Jesus himself desires and also prayed for - I see no fault in this. Also I hope that as people mention the word "negative" they are not refering to a persons passion for love and truth - as Christ himself sets our example and would be considered negative by most people. In fact if Jesus were to walk into most of our churches today or into "big church" I reckon we would all become a lot more humble then we are at the moment. Discern - not as a psychologist would discern - but as a loving person who can see the motives in a heart - and some motives are misunderstood and some are clearly and blatently wicked and some are purely loving . Gods Love to you all
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i think every one of you are wrong! but then again,i think you could be right too!  so...its kind of a toss up really!
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Matthew31272 I totally agree with your view, I was just disillusioned with the idea that other than spiritually, most people here physically are mature and that alone should make people behave, to agree to disagree at most times is not bad, it show level of maturity. Unity is not easy to bring forth, but I do know that people will be people. I however, found that there are loving and genuine christians who do love God and want to be growing in the spirit at BC. I am sure the fact that people are discussing it and openly saying what they feel, is after all a good thing.
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Skariff 2 Thank you for your contribution. I do, relate to what you are saying. I am a young christian and growing so critiscm does not bother me as long as it's constructive, I am happy to take it. That's the person I am. I suppose I saw a problem, and somehow for others it was no longer a problem, maybe a way of life here at BC, but I have being on sites where it was not religious and people always disagreed but in a courteous manner and in the end did agree to disagree. The fact that people are still discussing it to me, should mean a good thing. I did learn a thing or two after this blog. There are a some good christians here at BC who want to grow in the spirit and love of our God.
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onamissionforgod Sorry for disagreeing with most people, maybe as some bloggers said, there was no problem it's just people discussing. I like discussion but in a light that makes everyone comfortable. I was not, and so were a few others. I don't know I mind have read the whole situation wrong, and I was glad most people gave me advice and I totally take it all aboard, and I do discern when I read most of the blogs. I have to admit that there are many good christians here at BC and that's very encouraging, and am happy.
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To Donny You know the hand of God is totally amazing. Here I was with all these unanswered questions and a transformation taking place in me, and wondering if it's okay. It is such a pleasure to learn that someone or some people here have being through what I am going through. I totally agree, there is no way we can serve two masters; Matt 6 verse 24, clearly states that no man can serve two masters for either he will hate one and love the other,or else he will hold to the one and despise the other. You can not serve God and mammon. So I learnt that, to achieve the desire to serve God one has to put the whole focus on him, and to forsake all the other things that will hinderthem to get there. This is something that is not done in the flesh, but I learned that I need to ask God to equip me with his spirit to be able to achieve this. It a constant battle with our flesh, but it gets easier with each step taken. Words are now coming to life, they have a whole new meaning, things I took for granted, I praise God every day. The thing satan robbed from us when sin entered the world is that, we died spiritually and restoring this is a challenge as the body is always fighting. He also robbed us of the present, we are always consumed with worry, fear that we never live our lives as God intended. To restore this we need to give back our lives to God so that he carries the burden and we fear and worry not. He robbed us of the important bit, we no longer perceive paradise, we can not see life's perfection. We are not true to life. Only God can change all these flaws that sin brought in. I am also here to get spiritual fulfillment, and as I said before, the set up here allows most of us to speak our mind, and explore curiosities that otherwise in a church setting can be frowned upon. I don't know how to express the feeling of being on God's side and knowing that I am now; 1. growing steadily spiritually 2. I am true to life 3. I am no longer dead to my present, I take in life am grateful for being alive and many other things, even in a bad situation I know I am not alone. 4. I know I will live eternally in Glory as long as I can keep my head above the water (the spiritual water) I still am struggling with my past, but I will get there. Thanks bro, always nice to have words of encouragement early in he morning.
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9/4/2010 4:49 am |
onamissionforgod Sorry for disagreeing with most people, maybe as some bloggers said, there was no problem it's just people discussing. I like discussion but in a light that makes everyone comfortable. I was not, and so were a few others. I don't know I mind have read the whole situation wrong, and I was glad most people gave me advice and I totally take it all aboard, and I do discern when I read most of the blogs. I have to admit that there are many good christians here at BC and that's very encouraging, and am happy. With that said - I am not throwing stones at anyone in-particular or even at a group so to speak, 'But' I do believe correction is in order. That/this correction pertains to those who did not encourage you in your Godly desire to not have the testimony of Christ run through the mud based on disagreements arising from the defense of the indefensible in the guise of 'are we just misunderstanding'. sometimes issues need to be called/spoke of as they are, so that those involved ve opportunity to grow and change as all of us in Christ do. Gods LOve
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Matthew31272 Thanks for your comment. When i did the blog, it felt I needed to say it, I know for sure the spirit of God nudged me to speak out. I had wanted to for a while, but somehow I thought things would work itself out. Yes I did get very good advice, and also some of it left looking like I had reacted emotionally. I am happy, what I felt, most people also felt it, the uneasiness and tension arguments brings. I do understand people will be people and somehow, some people here were resigned that it's ok for such things to happen, you can't please all. Fair enough, but I believe that once this discussion took place, it made people realise we need to change our approach to how we communicate. How long it will last, I am not sure but all I know is that since we are still discusssing this issue its a good sign. I just want to come here, and get a share of spiritual uplifting, and obviously I do take critiscm, I happy to anytime, as long it is constructive. I am still learning but I am willing. Thanks Matthew
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Prophetbob Thanks for the insight, I do know the dead worm is gone. I do want confirmation my flesh have 50% knowledge of that. I still am fighting the flesh and also armouring myself with the word, I need it to fight off the flesh. I will get there, I know it, I am determined.
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9/8/2010 5:22 am |
I think the world is full of rubbish and that too many here are full of the world - I am not worried if some here say i've lost the plot because I simply don;t know if 'some' here are actually followers of Christ....................?
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Thanks you GEN1REV22 I do understand that there will be division and if it separates the sheep from the goats, i will be for it.
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Half a Boy/Half a Man? Some women like us that way. 
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