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THE UNPARDONED SIN Is there a sin that is unforgiveable? Yes the bible teaches there is Mark 3:29, Matt 12 v 31. So what is the sin that cannot be forgiven? This is the sin where one blasphemy against the holy spirit. The holy spirit's role is to convict men of sin and draw them to christ, however God has given men free will to reject or to accept the gift of salavation. When we accept salavation it cannot be taken away according John 10 verse 28 so when does blasphemy occur? In isaiah 55 v 6 clearly states that God does abundantly forgive us for our sins. Only when the holy spirit ceases to convict a man of his sins. The conscience becomes dead to conviction after continual refusal to accept salvation. |
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8/12/2010 4:20 pm |
ANY sin Jesus did not pay for on the cross would've kept Him in the grave. Rethink this doctrine. Where Bible And Christian Meet If You Only Knew
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its dying without receiving Christ....that means that you refused the Holy Spirit
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Jeremiah....Jesus was/is God in dual nature
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8/12/2010 8:37 pm |
I agree with you Hazel... Blessings, and welcome to Blog.     "Love is Patient..."
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Thanks you for the response to my blog, Jeremiah 1five, please read the scriptures i have quoted, it is taught in the bible, and maybe my interpretation of these verses might not be accurate, but it is there, written in the bible.
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8/13/2010 7:31 am |
Agree with "her" if you want, but I agree with Scripture and what God has to say about this question. Hazelpride...you are not looking closely at these passages about Jesus teaching about the unforgivable sin. It is indeed blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, but consider what is being taught by Jesus. Look at the text. IF there was a sin that Jesus did not pay for on the cross of Calvary that sin would've kept Jesus in the grave. Am I right? But there is a sin that was not paid for. Who commits this sin? Believers or unbelievers? You cannot say believers for all their sin was atoned. It was unbelievers. The only conclusion is that Jesus paid and atoned for the sin of the elect of God, those whose names were written in the Book of Life BEFORE God created heaven and earth. How can a man have free will if the choice was already made by God in eternity as to WHO He was going to save? When Jesus died on the cross He actually saved someone, not merely make salvation "possible" if one would only "accept Him." Jesus said NO ONE will accept Him. Consider the Word of God... John 3:19-20..."And this is the condemnation, that light [Christ] is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light [Christ], because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light [Christ], neither cometh to the light [Christ], lest his deeds should be reproved." Was Jesus lying when He said this? No! Jesus did not lie. So what's going on with the "unpardonable sin?" Jesus is the one that makes a tree. He is saying that He makes one tree good and one tree evil. Matthew 12:33..."Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit." Matthew 12:34..."O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh. 35 A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things. 36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. 37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned." What is blasphemy? It is a sin committed by the mouth. The mouth speaks what's in a heart. The heart reveals its condition by speaking - good or evil. Jesus concludes that BY THY WORDS you reveal your justification in Christ (good tree that HE MADE), and BY THY WORDS reveal your condemnation OF Christ (evil tree HE MADE). There is no free will. Remember: Book of Life and names of those Christ will save BEFORE God even created man! So where's the free will? There is none! The ministry of the Holy Spirit is found in the words of Jesus... John 16: 8-10..."And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: 9 Of sin, because they believe not on me; 10 Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more; 11 Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged." The Holy Spirit does TWO things...reprove THE WORLD of sin; and He will reprove the world of righteousness. (Judgment is associated with sin). The presence of the Holy Spirit "locks" a person in their condition - either justification that leads to righteousness, or sin that leads to judgment and condemnation. Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is a person who by the predestination of God is not saved because of the sin he/she is born in (tree made), and their presence in the world along with the Holy Spirit's presence, by their mouth that speaks the condition of their heart REJECTS the ministry of the Holy Spirit which is the application to the good tree the salvation bought on the cross for the elect. Matthew 1:21..."And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins." WHO are "His people?" These are those whose names are already written in the Lambs book of life. The blasphemy of the Holy Spirit cannot ever be committed by a true believer, it is committed by an unsaved person who will NEVER be saved, and the heart that is NEVER saved will speak the blasphemy by his mouth the evil condition of their heart. Where Bible And Christian Meet If You Only Knew
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8/13/2010 5:37 pm |
OK. Unforgivable sin. Who commits this sin - the sanctified or the unsanctified? It can't be the sanctified because the ministry of the Holy Spirit is to apply the salvation bought by Christ on the cross. And when the salvation is applied to a person this places them in the palm of both Father and Son. Who's gonna snatch them out? The person in the palm? Not likely. Otherwise the Word is a lie as far as anybody being snatched from the hand of BOTH Father and Son. Take a slower read of what I said above and what Jesus said in Scripture. They are the same thing. Blasphemy is a sin of the mouth. The mouth reveals the heart. The heart reveals a life. One is either justified or condemned. It doesn't say is condemned, and then justified, and then condemned, and then justified, and then condemned, and... Perseverance of a saint is God's work, not yours. Where Bible And Christian Meet If You Only Knew
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8/14/2010 8:19 pm |
All sin of the elect were paid for on the cross. The ministry of the Holy Spirit is to apply that salvation to the elect past, present, future. Although Jesus speaks of blasphemy, if you read closer you will see the subject is the heart/life justified or the heart/life condemned, not the mouth. The mouth only reveals what's in the HEART. It's the HEART. It's always been the HEART (life). The condemned heart/life is an offense to the Spirit who's presence in the world is as Jesus said - to reprove the ALREADY condemned, and to reprove the righteous (Jn 16: 8 ). "ALREADY condemned" (John 3: 1 8 )..."He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God." Someone condemned ALREADY cannot be saved, otherwise the judgment of condemnation from God was a lie...a false and erroneous misapplication of justice. Does God do this? NO! He does not. My heart does not stop. I understand this Word. It took much study and contemplation but the Word of God is true. We as believers only need to believe it. To disbelieve it is to call God a liar. Can I help you with anything else on this subject? Do you understand? Where Bible And Christian Meet If You Only Knew
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8/17/2010 3:21 am |
there are those who will say...lORD lORD Did we not Prophesy in your name? Did we not cat out demons in your name? And Jesus will say to them , away from me, I never knew you. That scripture is addressed to those who BELIEVE and it also shows us that not all who believe are Gods elect. Many are called but few are chosen.
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8/17/2010 9:16 am |
   This is one of my favourite quotes - I am going to write it in my book and build upon it with the Word of GOd
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8/17/2010 9:57 am |
there are those who will say...lORD lORD Did we not Prophesy in your name? Did we not cat out demons in your name? And Jesus will say to them , away from me, I never knew you. That scripture is addressed to those who BELIEVE and it also shows us that not all who believe are Gods elect. Many are called but few are chosen. "I never knew you." That's what it all comes down to. A person can just up and decide to become a Christian. However, there is no regeneration, or conversion, etc. The Lord has not called this person "to be with Him" (Mark 3:14). Where Bible And Christian Meet If You Only Knew
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8/19/2010 3:46 am |
The answer is in the words of Jesus... "I never knew you." That's what it all comes down to. A person can just up and decide to become a Christian. However, there is no regeneration, or conversion, etc. The Lord has not called this person "to be with Him" (Mark 3:14).
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Jeremiah1five I think you now agree with my last statement that states i quote "only when the holy spirit ceases to convict a man of his sins, their conscience becomes dead to conviction after continual refusal to accept salvation." I suppose in short the person described by that quote ceases to be christian. I totally agree with your comment i quote "A person can just up and decide to become christian however, there is no regeneration or conversion etc. The lord has not called this person to be with him Mark 3.14" What i hope you may clarify for me is that don't someone who fall of the wagon of christ start off as a christian and then fail to maintain their alligence as a christian by their failure to regenerate, I think blasphemy was written for christians, believers who failed to maintain their membership card clean within the lord, by failing to show remorse to their sins. The bible does teach they is that sin THE UNPARDONED SIN and am still convinced, it was never meant for non-believers, but for those who have knowledge of the love and power in the lord but have lost their way.
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8/25/2010 8:56 pm |
I agree with what you just said here. Can we build on this? Where Bible And Christian Meet If You Only Knew
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