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Lets get it right.....Jeremiah1five! I was reading some of the things you wrote in your blogs to other BC members. Your always freaking out, wonder what your blood pressure is like. But I have to straighten some things out that you are saying, exagerating about. Lets start with..... You said....."Because another member had stood with me, you and his4ever2007 searched her name and found personal and private information and tried to discredit her character, too. You posted her bank account, who held deed to her home, and other confidential information about her and her husband (who was not a member at BC). You are a sick woman!" My response.....We did search a certain person, however we did not find any information on her bank account or anything about her deed on her house (now go repent for lying). We found names linked to her as far as same address as in possible roommates and we did not publish that in any form of scandal, we asked her if she knew the people. And you know something else Jeremiah1five, in the end this person and I ended up exchanging several emails and I found her to be extremely pleasant when she wasnt having dealings with you. You said....."Since March 2009 Hisglory77 and Rosaceae2007 and his4ever2007 had been sending emails to members telling them about my conviction and trying to influence them against me. Soon, there were comments by members here alluding to their knowledge about me. It went from posting my personal name to making comments that I was a sexual predator, etc." My response.....Show me Jeremiah1five one email that I sent to another BC member here telling them about your criminal past. YOU CANT. You know I have emailed no one here about your past, (now go repent for lying). I am not going to email anyone instead I am going to say it right here in the open to each and everyone and you can read it and no one can say anything different than what I say, sooooo..... When you were taken back into custody at some point last year I believe, not sure when, but I received an email to my personal email account from your girlfriend "HisBeloved1" who still would not reveal her real name, you know the one that you told me was a foreign missionary with the Assembly of God denomination...my church...and in this email she gave me the name, address and phone number of the facility where you were and told me that you wanted her to ask me if I could use my credit card to put $25 on your account each month for personal items. You are not only a self proclaimed prophet, now you have become one of the scammers too? When you were released from the facility you called my cell phone non-stop for days. I wouldnt answer and you would leave messages but I didnt return your call because....oh yes, for privacy reasons you blocked your calls so no one could find you. So because I wouldnt answer your calls you left a message telling me to write a post on BC as to when was a good time to call and then you instructed me to delete the post after one day, making sure that you had read it. I only partially followed your orders, I wrote the post and I left it, its still there. I told you in the post that I did not want to talk to you, I had no information for you about any BC members and would not get any info for you and I asked that you respect my wishes and not call me anymore because I did not want to have to change my phone number. You did not respond to my post and thank you for not calling me anymore. You said....."I have nothing against you, except you attacking me personally with false information that was illegally brought to this site. Guess what...? This act was done by another Canadian. What's up with you Canadians? Gloria and Rosaceae2007, and Byron, and his4ever2007...you all have done evil in the sight of God and attacked with your malicious heart an innocent man." My response.....I am not a Canadian, am American but if I wasnt an American I would be very proud to be a Canadian. Whats up with you saying...whats up with you Canadians? And no one brought any false information illegally to this site. Everything that was said was public information so deal with it. You said....."I am dealing with unbelievers. All five of you are unbelievers. You don't know anything about the grace of God because God has never saved you. There is no grace or mercy in your words. You five are sick puppies! All of you." My response.....Who made you the judge? God is the only judge mister. "The person who wishes to boast should boast only of what the Lord has done." When people boast about themselves, it doesn't count for much. But when the Lord commends someone, that's different!...2 Cor 10: 17-18 NLT Now, go repent for all that lying and boasting. God is a good God and maybe just maybe He will save you! FAITH...Even when I can't see, I still believe. |
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Hi His4Ever.... thank you for setting the record straight. I will be posting my response to his accusations soon. Blessings to you, Rosaceae  The will of God never takes you where the Grace of God won't protect you.
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Great reading and gives some feeling of background.
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10/24/2009 10:14 am |
Wow, thanks for sharing your side.   "Love is Patient..."
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Jeremiah use to talk of how he was training his Beloved to be a good wife before they could get married. His Beloved is said to be a AOG Missionary and was travelling to foreign countries every couple months. We also know that Missionary work almost always includes young children in these foreign countries. The will of God never takes you where the Grace of God won't protect you.
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10/24/2009 3:03 pm |
I won't claim to be an authority on AOG, but I have been to services of a couple different AOG churches, have read their creeds, and closely fellowship with folks from AOG on a regular basis. There's an AOG megachurch down the street from my church, and our two churches do so much together that some folks call us one church in two different buildings. I know that local AOG churches are given a lot of leeway from the national denomenation of how to conduct themselves, and in some cases, even what they teach. For example, I know that AOG teaches that rapture preceeds the Great Tribulation, yet the mega-church I just described teaches a post tribulation rapture, which is more commonly taught in the Penticostal Church. So it may be possible that some local AOG churches may teach Calvinist doctrines, However, I think that DeeDee is right on the mark about AOG parinisher's getting married. They are pretty adament about marriage only to others with simliar beliefs, and preferably members of AOG as well, and it really does make a lot of sense. My church is close enough to the local AOG that intra-church marriage is not an issue. Except both churches do insist that the new couple makes only one of the two their home church, and are accountable in that church. Also all the local Charismatic churches have an agreement to not marry any couple that hasn't had at least six months of pre-marital counselling, which is another great thing to have in place. I also know that AOG prefers people marry within their own former marital catagory, (although it's not law, but another very good practice). Which is to say preferably that never married people marry only other never married people. Divorced marry only other divorced. Widows are very gently encouraged to marry other widow(ers) but are really more exempt, and can go any way they want. I can't imagine Andrew getting along very well with the pastorial leadership of an AOG church, mainly because they demand a high level of accountability, and especially from their prophets, and as we have seen, Andrew's claim of being a prophet and his activites within that office clearly show he's not accountable to anyone. Isaiah 66:2b; But to this one I will look, To him who is humble and contrite of spirit, and who trembles at My word.
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TO HIS4EVER2007, YOU SAID concerning Jeramiah1:5: I was reading some of the things you wrote in your blogs to other BC members. Your always freaking out, wonder what your blood pressure is like. But I have to straighten some things out that you are saying, exagerating about. Lets start with..... MY RESPONSE: I had the opportunity to actually meet with Jeramiah 1:5 and his girlfriend after 3 years. We had the most wonderful meeting. And you couldn't be further from the truth when you say that he is always freaking out, and assuming his blood pressure to be hi. I find this comical because he is a humble, quiet, and peaceful man in person. No one should be judging another like this UNLESS they have met and experienced time with them. JEREMIAH SAID: ....."Because another member had stood with me, you and his4ever2007 searched her name and found personal and private information and tried to discredit her character, too. You posted her bank account, who held deed to her home, and other confidential information about her and her husband (who was not a member at BC). You are a sick woman!" HIS4EVER'S RESPONSE: We did search a certain person, however we did not find any information on her bank account or anything about her deed on her house (now go repent for lying). We found names linked to her as far as same address as in possible roommates and we did not publish that in any form of scandal, we asked her if she knew the people. And you know something else Jeremiah1five, in the end this person and I ended up exchanging several emails and I found her to be extremely pleasant when she wasnt having dealings with you. MY RESPONSE: That certain person WAS ME. And what Jeremiah said was absolutely correct. YOU need to ask God to gift you with repentance for these deceitful lies. I should know because those things were about ME and MY personal life. I am the one who tried several times to forgive you and Rosacea's wickedness. YOU never accepted that gracious response, so again THIS is another deceitful lie on your part. I don't come on this site anymore because most of the people on here are NOT interested in the word of God, they rather prefer backbiting against others. These are people who don't have lives so they instead put their noses into others. This is why Jesus said, The wheat and the tares must grow together, so that those who are approved of By GOD, not man, are manifested. I strongly advise you to leave this site brother Jeremiah. God is your defense not man. We shall know them by their FRUIT, no matter what they profess... 
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10/25/2009 3:34 am |
Hello Spitfire, Thank you for letting me share my interactions with Jeremiah, but everyone should remember these are just mine, I am sure there are and have read of many others also. About Jeremiah's beloved...I am not so sure there is actually such a person, or such a person that he claims her to be. During the time that I was having phone conversations with him he talked about this beloved woman. He told me after finding out that I attend an AOG church that his beloved was also AOG and that she was a foreign missionary and that she had just returned from a two or three month travel, and I want to say that it was in Africa but am not quite sure. He told me that they had never met in person and probably wouldnt for quite some time. He told me it wasnt something on the high priority list at the time. He also told me that she either lived in Minnesota or Missouri I think, it was somewhere close to the AOG headquarters. At the time the conversations were taking place I went to my pastor and asked him if he knew who I might get ahold of in the office of headquarters to talk to about Jeremiah's beloved. I knew my pastor would know who I should talk with as he has two sons that are missionaries, one in the Cayman Islands and one in Nepal. After speaking with a person at headquarters and giving them all the info Jeremiah had given me they did a check and what they told me is there was absolutely no single women in that age group or in the geographical area I mentioned that was a missionary. I have been AOG all of my life and as for marrying someone with different beliefs...I will have to save that for another time as I was in a relationship like that not to long ago and I would love to talk about it but as I said, another time. God's blessings, His4ever. FAITH...Even when I can't see, I still believe.
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10/25/2009 3:40 am |
Hi His4Ever.... thank you for setting the record straight. I will be posting my response to his accusations soon. Blessings to you, Rosaceae So good to see you back. Read your article about Jeremiah and it was hard to sit still, I just wanted to get up and yell...Praise the Lord!! I do so enjoy your writings. God bless, His4ever. FAITH...Even when I can't see, I still believe.
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10/25/2009 3:44 am |
Hi Longing, You were never standing alone against Jeremiah, the Lord was always right by your side! Jeremiah goofed a little when he asked BCers to stand up for what's right, he should have asked them to stand up for what Jeremiah thinks is right. God bless...His4ever. FAITH...Even when I can't see, I still believe.
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10/25/2009 3:47 am |
Great reading and gives some feeling of background. Glad you enjoyed the read. Just remember that background feeling you may get on him is only my opinion. I dont want him to try to accuse me of turning everyone against himm. God's blessings my friend, His4ever. FAITH...Even when I can't see, I still believe.
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10/25/2009 11:49 am |
Hi Pal!! You know me, I will always stick up for my rights, and for my friends rights. How many years? To many years! You are one of the best friends I have met on this site and if we never get the chance to meet on this earth I do look forward to meeting you in Heaven, although after what mama said the other day I'm thinkin she kinda was wanting to see you...LOL. Blessings, prayers and love, M FAITH...Even when I can't see, I still believe.
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10/25/2009 11:53 am |
Wow, thanks for sharing your side. Your welcome. Please remember it is only my side and I have seen many here that have their sides as well. I did not say what I said to start any arguements, did not say what I said to make you like or dislike Jeremiah or anyone else here. I said what I said about my actions with him and how I feel about him. God's blessings to you, His4ever. FAITH...Even when I can't see, I still believe.
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10/25/2009 12:08 pm |
I won't claim to be an authority on AOG, but I have been to services of a couple different AOG churches, have read their creeds, and closely fellowship with folks from AOG on a regular basis. There's an AOG megachurch down the street from my church, and our two churches do so much together that some folks call us one church in two different buildings. I know that local AOG churches are given a lot of leeway from the national denomenation of how to conduct themselves, and in some cases, even what they teach. For example, I know that AOG teaches that rapture preceeds the Great Tribulation, yet the mega-church I just described teaches a post tribulation rapture, which is more commonly taught in the Penticostal Church. So it may be possible that some local AOG churches may teach Calvinist doctrines, However, I think that DeeDee is right on the mark about AOG parinisher's getting married. They are pretty adament about marriage only to others with simliar beliefs, and preferably members of AOG as well, and it really does make a lot of sense. My church is close enough to the local AOG that intra-church marriage is not an issue. Except both churches do insist that the new couple makes only one of the two their home church, and are accountable in that church. Also all the local Charismatic churches have an agreement to not marry any couple that hasn't had at least six months of pre-marital counselling, which is another great thing to have in place. I also know that AOG prefers people marry within their own former marital catagory, (although it's not law, but another very good practice). Which is to say preferably that never married people marry only other never married people. Divorced marry only other divorced. Widows are very gently encouraged to marry other widow(ers) but are really more exempt, and can go any way they want. I can't imagine Andrew getting along very well with the pastorial leadership of an AOG church, mainly because they demand a high level of accountability, and especially from their prophets, and as we have seen, Andrew's claim of being a prophet and his activites within that office clearly show he's not accountable to anyone. I wont claim to be an authority on AOG either! I attend the AOG church that I started out in when I was a little girl, the same church I gave my heart to the Lord in but I am not a member of the church. I have never been a member of any church, I dont feel that is a necessary step for me and it certainly isnt going to guarantee me a spot in Heaven! I dont know how you guys blog so much, just the past two days has absolutely wore me out, I had to take 4 naps to recover! And when I wrote this blog I wasnt sure I had done it correctly as I never did it before but it worked, I just hope I dont become an addict because I do have a life outside of BC and want to keep it that way. I am not so sure on the who can marry who you were talking about concerning AOG so I will have to go to my pastor with that question. I do know that a divorced person cannot become an ordained minister with the AOG. As you may or may not know or remember, I was engaged to be married to someone I met on this site. He was of a different denomination than myself and in the beginning it was not a problem as he believed the same as I concerning salvation, or so I was told at the time but as time went on I learned that this person believed the "once saved always saved" among extreme other things and it would lead to what seemed like unending disagreements and I felt like I was back in the middle of some of the posts on BC. Like I said in a earlier post, that is a topic for discussion another place and time. Thank you for your input here and the questions you have stirred up in me, its always good to gain more knowledge. God's blessings, His4ever. FAITH...Even when I can't see, I still believe.
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10/25/2009 12:26 pm |
TO HIS4EVER2007, YOU SAID concerning Jeramiah1:5: I was reading some of the things you wrote in your blogs to other BC members. Your always freaking out, wonder what your blood pressure is like. But I have to straighten some things out that you are saying, exagerating about. Lets start with..... MY RESPONSE: I had the opportunity to actually meet with Jeramiah 1:5 and his girlfriend after 3 years. We had the most wonderful meeting. And you couldn't be further from the truth when you say that he is always freaking out, and assuming his blood pressure to be hi. I find this comical because he is a humble, quiet, and peaceful man in person. No one should be judging another like this UNLESS they have met and experienced time with them. JEREMIAH SAID: ....."Because another member had stood with me, you and his4ever2007 searched her name and found personal and private information and tried to discredit her character, too. You posted her bank account, who held deed to her home, and other confidential information about her and her husband (who was not a member at BC). You are a sick woman!" HIS4EVER'S RESPONSE: We did search a certain person, however we did not find any information on her bank account or anything about her deed on her house (now go repent for lying). We found names linked to her as far as same address as in possible roommates and we did not publish that in any form of scandal, we asked her if she knew the people. And you know something else Jeremiah1five, in the end this person and I ended up exchanging several emails and I found her to be extremely pleasant when she wasnt having dealings with you. MY RESPONSE: That certain person WAS ME. And what Jeremiah said was absolutely correct. YOU need to ask God to gift you with repentance for these deceitful lies. I should know because those things were about ME and MY personal life. I am the one who tried several times to forgive you and Rosacea's wickedness. YOU never accepted that gracious response, so again THIS is another deceitful lie on your part. I don't come on this site anymore because most of the people on here are NOT interested in the word of God, they rather prefer backbiting against others. These are people who don't have lives so they instead put their noses into others. This is why Jesus said, The wheat and the tares must grow together, so that those who are approved of By GOD, not man, are manifested. I strongly advise you to leave this site brother Jeremiah. God is your defense not man. Its been a long time since we have talked, but if I remember correctly the last time we did talk you were inviting me and Jack to meet with you should we visit California. Im having a little problem here with you saying that you tried several times to forgive me and Rosaceae's wickedness and that I would never accept that gracious response. Tell me, was your way of forgiving having our profiles removed from BC, because that is what you did? There were no lies Siciliangirl, you know this. Nothing was published about your bank account, your house deed. That is just nonsense, its statements made up by Jeremiah to try to stir up more trouble. The question that was asked to you was if you worked at such and such a place, and if you knew such and such a person. When you yourself start talking about your work products and your church you attend its not so hard to find and figure info, you did most of the work yourself. But getting back to not accepting your offer of forgiveness, who is being dishonest here? You are the one who sent me an email on BC and I responded and yes I did accept what you said to me. We emailed several times and in those emails I told you that Jack and I would be traveling to Cali after we married to meet members of his family and you offered to come to your city and meet with you and your husband. Do people lose their mind after they are here for long periods of time because if this is true maybe I should leave soon!!! FAITH...Even when I can't see, I still believe.
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Well thank you for sharing your opinions His4, but I rather prefer the facts, meaning evidence. I AM NOW GOING TO PRESENT A LETTER THAT I WROTE TO HIS4EVER BACK IN 2007. I hope you all enjoy especially the ones who are against Jeremiah for some of his sins he might have committed. You all must be perfect and without any sin to backbite against another believer, and you all should know that those who BACKBITE WILL NOT inherit the kingdom of God. Here are the facts from the begining in 2007: Those who are going to be gathered unto God, as His saints, have to hear the testimony that is against them, because God is judge of His people (Ps. 50:4-7). Wherein they are reproved (50:  . However, those who hate instruction of those who are called to reprove them, cast these words behind them (50:17 & . Let us digest the following facts, so that we can then look into the word of God to see if these things are godly, or ungodly things. 7/16/2007 8:43 am Sweet Kenzo, Do you have a twin brother some where? LOL!!Again thank you for you kindness, yes I do have a pretty fulland busy life it seems but always have time for God, always.Im nothing special, really the only special thing aboutme is that I am a child of God. I hope and pray to be a wonderfulcatch someday to someone but you know Holmes I do have a strictcriteria that I follow. Marianne- Hisforever 7/16/2007 9:23 pm I am too new to this site to have met you, LivingMyFaith,but I have heard many wonderful things about you and theblessings you have brought to this loose community of believers.Each of us here at Big Church can only praythat we find a partner that will bless us, as you two haveblessed each other.You are in our prayers, -jack Jul 22, 2007Marianne walks with the love of Jesus shining from her heart. Her faith has been greatly tested and proven to be stronger than steel. I have been blessed by my communications with her. The man who wins her heart will find a true partner in the Lord. May our Lord continue to bless you Marianne. Your virtual inamorato, -jack Jul 21, 2007Jack has a love for God that is so true and so great. He is a man that puts God first in his life and all others second, as it should be. I have truly enjoyed my converstations with him, his humor is so delightful and at the same time he has a unique gentleness about him. I look forward to more conversations with Jack and whatever God has in store for our lives. God bless you always my inamorato, Marianne 8/9/2007 7:22 pm Does love come calling in just a moment...YES. Can it strikefast as lightning...OH YES. Does it make you smile, tingleand make you constantly think of the person...YES YES YES.If your not looking for love then of course it comes whenyou least expect it. Do you ignore it as soon as you know ofeach other or do you let your hearts forge ahead knowingthe adventure and journey will grow because there willbe no ending... I received an email some time back, a beautiful email unlikeany I had ever received. Every time I read it I cried and everytime I read it I had a strange feeling inside of me. This personand I continued to exchange emails and each one would makemy heart beat fast, they would bring tears...happy tearsto my eyes. And then when I heard his voice for the first timeit melted me, and now that I know this man I can say...I loveyou Jack. God bless you Dundeal, I enjoy your posts...Marianne-His4ever2006. 8/13/2007 3:24 am Loki’s thread entitled “Meteor showers” Hello Loki, I am seeing about 1 every ten minutes here in Campbell, CA.This is not bad considering I am in the middle of one of thelargest urban areas in California. "Keep Looking Up" -jack Jack and I both prayedhard daily that God's will would be done in each of ourlives. God listens when you put Him first and so, as it turnedout, Jack has moved to Salem and has asked me to become hiswife and I have accepted his proposal. Your life as my"virtual Inamorato" was short....but sweet!....yourlife as my husband will be very, very long! Sicilian Girl's Response Jack’s profile has changed his living area to Brooks Oregon, before this thread, officially 2 weeks ago, and happens to be 10 miles from his forever 2006. Interesting., because he still lives in Campbell, California as of 2 days ago in Loki’s thread. What are you guys hiding? Why are you guys trying to sell this garbage to your Christian friends? True love between a man and a woman does not come in a matter of a month, especially without knowing a person, spending quality time with that person, in which these have not done, because they live in opposite states. This is called a crush. How despicable to display this kind of lust and call it love, especially in the name of God no less. People in the world don’t even think about marrying someone for the rest of their lives when they don’t even know them, and in 30 days? And only through phone conversations? And now husband and wife.... Happily ever after ... Sounds like strange love to me, and to post such an inappropriate personal email so that you can boast of how much he is using flattery, to win you, without any self esteem, is this what you call a man? Wow, and godly at that? Im sure there are many more who are watching this freakish so-called love show. Interestingly, the word of God has several words to describe this freaky love: Greek #5367 a love which is selfish, meaning self-centered, This word is only used once in 2Tim 3:2 regarding those who are the lovers of their own selves which is shown by their proud boasting on the one side; and then their false accusing on the other side! Wherein it is said that these people are despisers of those who are good. And those who are good should turn away from such as this. For this sort, creep into houses and lead silly women laden with lusts, because they are into being led away through many lusts (2Tim 3:2-6). We know these people: [1] because they resist the truth and [2] because they haven’t come to the knowledge of the truth (3:8-7). All we can ever expect to see from people like this is this kind of manifest foolishness (3:9). This is because they do not have the “doctrine” of love for a life of love and so their purpose and even faith does not manifest patience (3:10). Men who are hasty for love are called seducers who deceive and are deceived (3:13). All of this scripture has been given unto us by God; and can only be used profitably, if we are reproving, and or correcting, and or instructing people. For those of God need to be perfect and thoroughly furnished to do good (3:16-17). Without which they manifest the deceiving seduction of people who are evil, which are not living godly in Christ Jesus (3:13-12). Another Greek word to describe what is going on between Jack and Marianne is found in 2Tim 3:4: Wherein we find high-minded, giddy lovers, who show that the pleasure that they get from their love is more than their love of God. The reason for this giddy loving is because they only have a form of godliness, because they have denied the power of the truth (2Tim 3:5 and . And this is why they are led away from the truth, which they are resisting. We know they are resisting the truth because they don’t know it; and they are in the actions of lust, which they call love (2Tim 3:8-6) True biblical love that is of the faith has a manner of life that has the following purpose [of truth], which we should fully know, and can know, because everybody knows these simple words, patience, and longsuffering. Without which, we are in manifest foolishness because of a corrupt faith that resists the truth, which we are unable to come to the knowledge of (10-7). Another word for what we are seeing here is associated with Strong’s Greek # 5377, which is found in 2Tim. 3:4: And is little love toward God, because these people prefer to be pleased through their own loving pleasures. Those who love others more than God cannot serve Him (Mt. 6:24). Those who say that they have come to JESUS, and prefer others more than Him, they cannot be His disciples (Lk. 14:26). This is because they have never carried their cross, so that they could come after Him (14:27). Those who get into this hasty love, which is for hire need to know that it is inordinate, because the Bible tells us that those who are alone {NOTE you need to place the fact that she said she was lonely HERE} are looking for these lovers: And that God gets no pleasure from such as these (Hos. 8:9- . For they sow nothing but wind; and reap nothing but the whirlwind (Hos. 8 ). This is the work that is not of God, which shall be broken in pieces (8:6). How long will those in this remain innocent? (8:5). In Proverbs we read of those who love a strange woman (Pr. 5:3). This is the loving that is said to be pleasant, and is so because it is between strangers (5:19-20). Only those who are without instruction are into this sin (5:23-22). This is called the evil that is in the midst of the congregation (5:14). Those who hate this instruction, despise this reproof (5:12). These people have been ensnared into this friendship, because they are strangers unto each other (Pr. 6:1-2). Rather we are to make sure of anyone who is to be our friend (6:3). A woman who is a stranger to a man, is a woman that a man should keep away from, because she is merely flattering him (6:24). A woman who is a stranger to a man cannot love him, for the Bible tells us that she can only lust after him (6:24-25). This kind of woman is hunting a man down to burn him (6:26-27). Does Jack think that he is not going to get burned? (6:2. Remember the key word here is strangers, not lovers. These so-called lovers end up despising us (Jer. 4:30). Those who are in love with strangers are merely doting upon them (Eze. 23:5). Finally, Strong’s Greek # 5383 is the love that is first in our life: is translated as preeminence (3Jn. 1:9). The only person whom we can love preeminently, whom we have never met, is God in Christ Jesus our Lord. To be able to love someone, in the context of marriage, whom we have never met is the same inordinate preeminence that is found in 3Jn. 1:9. The only thing that those who are here can do is gossip (and backbite) against the brethren (1:10). Those who do such things are not of God (1:11). Expressing this much love through words alone comes from hearts that are covetous (Eze. 33:31). False lovers draw close with their mouth to honor with their lips while there are far away (Mt. 15:9- . Hypercritical lovers are far from us (Mk. 7:6). Only those who are covering up some transgression could seek after this kind of love (Pr. 17:9). Why seek this love? (Jer. 2:33). We shall know them by their FRUIT, no matter what they profess...
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10/26/2009 12:28 am |
Well thank you for sharing your opinions His4, but I rather prefer the facts, meaning evidence. I AM NOW GOING TO PRESENT A LETTER THAT I WROTE TO HIS4EVER BACK IN 2007. I hope you all enjoy especially the ones who are against Jeremiah for some of his sins he might have committed. You all must be perfect and without any sin to backbite against another believer, and you all should know that those who BACKBITE WILL NOT inherit the kingdom of God. Here are the facts from the begining in 2007: Those who are going to be gathered unto God, as His saints, have to hear the testimony that is against them, because God is judge of His people (Ps. 50:4-7). Wherein they are reproved (50: . However, those who hate instruction of those who are called to reprove them, cast these words behind them (50:17 & . Let us digest the following facts, so that we can then look into the word of God to see if these things are godly, or ungodly things. 7/16/2007 8:43 am Sweet Kenzo, Do you have a twin brother some where? LOL!!Again thank you for you kindness, yes I do have a pretty fulland busy life it seems but always have time for God, always.Im nothing special, really the only special thing aboutme is that I am a child of God. I hope and pray to be a wonderfulcatch someday to someone but you know Holmes I do have a strictcriteria that I follow. Marianne- Hisforever 7/16/2007 9:23 pm I am too new to this site to have met you, LivingMyFaith,but I have heard many wonderful things about you and theblessings you have brought to this loose community of believers.Each of us here at Big Church can only praythat we find a partner that will bless us, as you two haveblessed each other.You are in our prayers, -jack Jul 22, 2007Marianne walks with the love of Jesus shining from her heart. Her faith has been greatly tested and proven to be stronger than steel. I have been blessed by my communications with her. The man who wins her heart will find a true partner in the Lord. May our Lord continue to bless you Marianne. Your virtual inamorato, -jack Jul 21, 2007Jack has a love for God that is so true and so great. He is a man that puts God first in his life and all others second, as it should be. I have truly enjoyed my converstations with him, his humor is so delightful and at the same time he has a unique gentleness about him. I look forward to more conversations with Jack and whatever God has in store for our lives. God bless you always my inamorato, Marianne 8/9/2007 7:22 pm Does love come calling in just a moment...YES. Can it strikefast as lightning...OH YES. Does it make you smile, tingleand make you constantly think of the person...YES YES YES.If your not looking for love then of course it comes whenyou least expect it. Do you ignore it as soon as you know ofeach other or do you let your hearts forge ahead knowingthe adventure and journey will grow because there willbe no ending... I received an email some time back, a beautiful email unlikeany I had ever received. Every time I read it I cried and everytime I read it I had a strange feeling inside of me. This personand I continued to exchange emails and each one would makemy heart beat fast, they would bring tears...happy tearsto my eyes. And then when I heard his voice for the first timeit melted me, and now that I know this man I can say...I loveyou Jack. God bless you Dundeal, I enjoy your posts...Marianne-His4ever2006. 8/13/2007 3:24 am Loki’s thread entitled “Meteor showers” Hello Loki, I am seeing about 1 every ten minutes here in Campbell, CA.This is not bad considering I am in the middle of one of thelargest urban areas in California. "Keep Looking Up" -jack Jack and I both prayedhard daily that God's will would be done in each of ourlives. God listens when you put Him first and so, as it turnedout, Jack has moved to Salem and has asked me to become hiswife and I have accepted his proposal. Your life as my"virtual Inamorato" was short....but sweet!....yourlife as my husband will be very, very long! Sicilian Girl's Response Jack’s profile has changed his living area to Brooks Oregon, before this thread, officially 2 weeks ago, and happens to be 10 miles from his forever 2006. Interesting., because he still lives in Campbell, California as of 2 days ago in Loki’s thread. What are you guys hiding? Why are you guys trying to sell this garbage to your Christian friends? True love between a man and a woman does not come in a matter of a month, especially without knowing a person, spending quality time with that person, in which these have not done, because they live in opposite states. This is called a crush. How despicable to display this kind of lust and call it love, especially in the name of God no less. People in the world don’t even think about marrying someone for the rest of their lives when they don’t even know them, and in 30 days? And only through phone conversations? And now husband and wife.... Happily ever after ... Sounds like strange love to me, and to post such an inappropriate personal email so that you can boast of how much he is using flattery, to win you, without any self esteem, is this what you call a man? Wow, and godly at that? Im sure there are many more who are watching this freakish so-called love show. Interestingly, the word of God has several words to describe this freaky love: Greek #5367 a love which is selfish, meaning self-centered, This word is only used once in 2Tim 3:2 regarding those who are the lovers of their own selves which is shown by their proud boasting on the one side; and then their false accusing on the other side! Wherein it is said that these people are despisers of those who are good. And those who are good should turn away from such as this. For this sort, creep into houses and lead silly women laden with lusts, because they are into being led away through many lusts (2Tim 3:2-6). We know these people: [1] because they resist the truth and [2] because they haven’t come to the knowledge of the truth (3:8-7). All we can ever expect to see from people like this is this kind of manifest foolishness (3:9). This is because they do not have the “doctrine” of love for a life of love and so their purpose and even faith does not manifest patience (3:10). Men who are hasty for love are called seducers who deceive and are deceived (3:13). All of this scripture has been given unto us by God; and can only be used profitably, if we are reproving, and or correcting, and or instructing people. For those of God need to be perfect and thoroughly furnished to do good (3:16-17). Without which they manifest the deceiving seduction of people who are evil, which are not living godly in Christ Jesus (3:13-12). Another Greek word to describe what is going on between Jack and Marianne is found in 2Tim 3:4: Wherein we find high-minded, giddy lovers, who show that the pleasure that they get from their love is more than their love of God. The reason for this giddy loving is because they only have a form of godliness, because they have denied the power of the truth (2Tim 3:5 and . And this is why they are led away from the truth, which they are resisting. We know they are resisting the truth because they don’t know it; and they are in the actions of lust, which they call love (2Tim 3:8-6) True biblical love that is of the faith has a manner of life that has the following purpose [of truth], which we should fully know, and can know, because everybody knows these simple words, patience, and longsuffering. Without which, we are in manifest foolishness because of a corrupt faith that resists the truth, which we are unable to come to the knowledge of (10-7). Another word for what we are seeing here is associated with Strong’s Greek # 5377, which is found in 2Tim. 3:4: And is little love toward God, because these people prefer to be pleased through their own loving pleasures. Those who love others more than God cannot serve Him (Mt. 6:24). Those who say that they have come to JESUS, and prefer others more than Him, they cannot be His disciples (Lk. 14:26). This is because they have never carried their cross, so that they could come after Him (14:27). Those who get into this hasty love, which is for hire need to know that it is inordinate, because the Bible tells us that those who are alone {NOTE you need to place the fact that she said she was lonely HERE} are looking for these lovers: And that God gets no pleasure from such as these (Hos. 8:9- . For they sow nothing but wind; and reap nothing but the whirlwind (Hos. 8). This is the work that is not of God, which shall be broken in pieces (8:6). How long will those in this remain innocent? (8:5). In Proverbs we read of those who love a strange woman (Pr. 5:3). This is the loving that is said to be pleasant, and is so because it is between strangers (5:19-20). Only those who are without instruction are into this sin (5:23-22). This is called the evil that is in the midst of the congregation (5:14). Those who hate this instruction, despise this reproof (5:12). These people have been ensnared into this friendship, because they are strangers unto each other (Pr. 6:1-2). Rather we are to make sure of anyone who is to be our friend (6:3). A woman who is a stranger to a man, is a woman that a man should keep away from, because she is merely flattering him (6:24). A woman who is a stranger to a man cannot love him, for the Bible tells us that she can only lust after him (6:24-25). This kind of woman is hunting a man down to burn him (6:26-27). Does Jack think that he is not going to get burned? (6:2. Remember the key word here is strangers, not lovers. These so-called lovers end up despising us (Jer. 4:30). Those who are in love with strangers are merely doting upon them (Eze. 23:5). Finally, Strong’s Greek # 5383 is the love that is first in our life: is translated as preeminence (3Jn. 1:9). The only person whom we can love preeminently, whom we have never met, is God in Christ Jesus our Lord. To be able to love someone, in the context of marriage, whom we have never met is the same inordinate preeminence that is found in 3Jn. 1:9. The only thing that those who are here can do is gossip (and backbite) against the brethren (1:10). Those who do such things are not of God (1:11). Expressing this much love through words alone comes from hearts that are covetous (Eze. 33:31). False lovers draw close with their mouth to honor with their lips while there are far away (Mt. 15:9- . Hypercritical lovers are far from us (Mk. 7:6). Only those who are covering up some transgression could seek after this kind of love (Pr. 17:9). Why seek this love? (Jer. 2:33). You copy and paste something I wrote to Kenzo on 7/16/07 and something Jack wrote to Livingmyfaith on 7/16/07, and this is evidence of ??? Then you copy and paste comments that Jack and I made on 7/21/07 & 7/22/07 and this also is evidence of ??? That Jack and I were talking? And then you copy and paste a response I wrote to Dundeal on 8/9/07 and this is more evidence of ??? Now, you copy and paste a post Jack made to Loki on 8/13/07 stating that he is watching a meteor shower in California. You think your a pretty good detective dont you smarty? Well, your not. So what if Jack changed his living area to Brooks Oregon before that thread. So what if he was in California when Loki wrote the thread. What in the world makes you think that anyone was hiding anything? If he were hiding something dont you think he would have made his profile not visible to anyone? The truth is, and several people knew this, Jack had a residence in both places. It took Jack nearly 3 months to move everything from California to Oregon and he still had business dealings he was tying up before the final move. Who but you cares what his place of residence said on his profile? Talk about a busy body.....YOU WIN. And, who are you to say that there is a time limit on true love? If it is what God wants then it will be the right time, not what you think is acceptable time. We have an elderly couple in our church that were set up on a blind date. Two weeks after the first date they were married. One week later he went to war and was gone nearly a year. A year after he returned home they had their first of 5 children. This couple has been married for 66 years now. So tell me, is it really true love? You can take your Greek #5367 and you better chew long and hard so you dont choke on it. You have to copy and paste crap from a book because you dont know how to speak to anyone straight from your heart. There have been several others here that met and were married quickly but I dont see you speaking against them.....oh, could it be because they are not saying things against Jeremiah? And btw, in case you missed it....Jack and I did not marry. So please Siciliangirl, tell me what is this evidence that you have? That Jack and I were attracted to one another? That was true. That Jack asked me to marry him shortly after we began knowing each other? That was true. That Jack moved here within 2 to 5 months of our beginning to correspond? That was true. That we put the relationship in God's hands and asked that His will would be done in our lives and that we would accept the outcome? That was true. Did I say I was lonely? I am sure that I said it more than once, is that a crime? The amazing thing is that you tried to turn something that was an innocent meeting of two people that shared things through conversation and as time went (quickly) found they had a lot in common into something dirty. You accused Jack and I of lusting after each other and you have no evidence or facts to prove this. Let me ask you this, when you extended the invitation to Jack and I to come and meet and visit with you and your husband was that phony? Were you just looking for information you could store and use at a later date? You want to talk about gossip and back-biting....sorry about yours and Jeremiah's luck on not inheriting any of the kingdom of heaven because you guys win that contest big time. FAITH...Even when I can't see, I still believe.
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10/26/2009 12:33 am |
Okay, I'm more confused AFTER having read siciliangirl's evidence of Rosaceae2007, and his4ever2007 persicuting her, then before. Unlesss I missed something, I saw nothing that had anything to do with siciliangirl, except that she was against his4ever2007's fast engagement to a man she barely knew. I don't totally agree with all of it either. I think it's possible to fall in love with someone in less then a month, although I don't think it's wise to allow such a thing to happen. Nor is it wise to marry so quickly either, which is why a pre-maritatl counselling season of at least 6 months is in order. However, I do also understand the feelings of europha that comes with the "in love experience," and how it can cause people to not use reason or good judgment in decissions. This is likely what happened to his4ever2007, and if so don't fault her for being human. Besides, from the reply she made to me on page 1, it sounds like she did get out before it was too late. But now none of this has anything to do with Andrew's accusations against his4ever2007 and Rosaceae2007. If anything, it confirms the fact that there is no such evidence. Just like there is no evidence that these two women and myself conspiried together beginning this past March to lauch a smear campaign against Andrew. Each of the three of us has asked at least once for anyone who has evidence that any or all of us have E-mailed other B.C. members with the specific intent of speaking against Andrew. I will repeat that request again. Anyone with such an E-mail from myself, Rosaceae2007, and/or his4ever2007 that is of the nature that Andrew claims, deliberate attempts to smear him, please present them. I personally would find interesting anyone who can document my having corispondance with either of these two women prior to these past few days, for I'm not aware that I've ever had the opportunities or pleasure to address either one of these two before, although I do remember both of them from the Magazine section. Especially the one with the red hair.  Isaiah 66:2b; But to this one I will look, To him who is humble and contrite of spirit, and who trembles at My word.
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10/26/2009 12:36 am |
AMEN!!! Hey, I will pay the postage to mail out the mirrors, or better yet...I could drive and pick you and the mirrors up and on our way to deliver them we could gossip and back-bite about some here and then we could talk about all of our lusting past relationships...hahahahahaha! I need a nap, God's blessings, Marianne FAITH...Even when I can't see, I still believe.
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10/26/2009 1:27 am |
Hi HisGlory, I wont claim to be an authority on AOG either! I attend the AOG church that I started out in when I was a little girl, the same church I gave my heart to the Lord in but I am not a member of the church. I have never been a member of any church, I dont feel that is a necessary step for me and it certainly isnt going to guarantee me a spot in Heaven! I dont know how you guys blog so much, just the past two days has absolutely wore me out, I had to take 4 naps to recover! And when I wrote this blog I wasnt sure I had done it correctly as I never did it before but it worked, I just hope I dont become an addict because I do have a life outside of BC and want to keep it that way. I am not so sure on the who can marry who you were talking about concerning AOG so I will have to go to my pastor with that question. I do know that a divorced person cannot become an ordained minister with the AOG. As you may or may not know or remember, I was engaged to be married to someone I met on this site. He was of a different denomination than myself and in the beginning it was not a problem as he believed the same as I concerning salvation, or so I was told at the time but as time went on I learned that this person believed the "once saved always saved" among extreme other things and it would lead to what seemed like unending disagreements and I felt like I was back in the middle of some of the posts on BC. Like I said in a earlier post, that is a topic for discussion another place and time. Thank you for your input here and the questions you have stirred up in me, its always good to gain more knowledge. God's blessings, His4ever. I know of their preferences in marriage because I am a friend of both Rick41, and Eternaljoyforever, both AOGs and both from here. In fact they met here. I had been E-mailing Eternaljoyforever quite a few months by the time they had met. It was a time in my life that I was freshly divorced, with a girlfriend that had never been married. We were both attending an elder led Bible church, and I was beginning to feel the spirit tugging me to uproot and replant in a Charismatic church. Our church was very much against divorce to the point that they told me if I had any aspirations of marriage to my GF, we would have to have it done in a different church. Well we never came close. We had picked that particular church together as a compromise because I wanted a Charismatic church to begin with, and she wanted a mainline church. After we broke up, I felt that tugging even more. AOG was among my considerations at the time, and Fullofjoyeternal was only too happy to give me lots and lots of info about them. Among which was they prefered that singles married only other singles, and that divorcees re-married only with other divorcees. It wasn't law, but strongly encouraged, and as I said before it made since. Now Fullofjoyeternal herself was a widow. She said she was free to marry whoever she wanted as long as he at least held similar Charismatic beliefs, and perferably was an AOG himself. But the gentle preference was a widower first, then someone single, and as a last resort, a divorcee. She was often depressed because there are very few widowers or single men in her age group, (upper 30s at the time)and she really didn't feel right about possibly marrying a man who had been divorced. But then a few months later, along came Rick41, a widower, just a couple years older then she, and a former member of the very church she was attending. It was a great match, and I had the honor of meeting them for New Years, attending their church service, and small group meeting with them, as well as was a guest at their wedding. I liked AOG from what I saw, and had in mind to check out a local AOG church. However there was a very strong pulling to consider a well known independent Charasmatic mega-church called "River of Life", whose senor pastor was a well known author. One whom had been recomended to me by two other BC bloggers from other states. Spirit-filled, (Marilyn) and Speeritwoman, (Rev. Barb) When I attended my first service with them, I wasn't even there a full 10 minutes and I knew I had found my new home church, and had been actively attending ever since. The poor AOG never really had a chance, but they are 1st in line should I ever decide to leave the church I now attend. River of Life is very much into having local churches within a given city or town unified to pray and fellowship together, which is exactly what we do. We have a prayer network of over 50 local churches of all denomenations, and each week a different church will host a prayer session for everyone. I did not know that a divorced person cannot become an ordained minister with the AOG. Yet strangly enough I learned this evening that the Lutherans are going to allow homosexuals to become pastors. Now go figure. I do remember before that you were engaged. You were one of the cutest redheads I had seen on Big Church yet, from the most beautiful state I've ever been to, (I lived in Portland in 78-79) and Charismatic at that, but taken.  I'm sorry to hear it didn't work out, but am glad you got out before it was too late. I had something similar happen to me as well. I was engaged to a wonderful little WOG who at first seemed to be keeping pace with me. But later I found out she's not nearly as commited to the Lord as me, and we would have been going in different directions. Keep up your quest to gain more knowledge. God gives more grace to the humble but resists the proud. James 4:6; Isaiah 66:2b; But to this one I will look, To him who is humble and contrite of spirit, and who trembles at My word.
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Marianne, This Will Be My Last Post Here. THIS backbiting attitude from you and others IS the reason I have not been on this site for over 2 years. I have a real life, which is called ministry, the kind of ministry which my husband ministers to hundreds of Pastors, and I am his helpmate. I don't speak from MY heart because I would rather speak from the word of God that edifies, my opinions don't edify anyone. All I have ever seen in these blogs are opinions, backbiting, and foolish conversation. I save important letters that I write to different people just in case they are needed at a later date which seems to be 3 years in this case, and this is because people say so many things which they don't remember, and I find it quite necessary to keep important documents, which are called facts, and the FACTS are much more powerful than man's opinions. What bible are you people reading/studying? It is obvious that many people here are not under instruction/subjection to a God sent preacher. This is why it is said that we shall know them by their FRUITS, NOT their works for love. Go check out Rom 1:11-13 in the KJV. I really don't care about your little stories, and the stories of others here because they don't have a knowledge of the word of God, so they don't use it, and this is because they are unlearned, and actually despise the scriptures that go against them. How can we know that people despise the scriptures? Because they go AGAINST what they say, and justify themselves. True repentance that has been given by God is WITHOUT self-justification, because it is a GIFT from God. I find it so very sad that so-called Christians can say that they can gain knowledge without the word of God. Hmmm, I wonder why you and Jack never married? I think you need to go back and look at the scriptures, however, I don't believe you are interested in what they have to say about true biblical love, no worries your not alone here! It's funny to see that most so-called believers have NO CHANGE, and this is because they are not being instructed in grace but rather just faith, so these don't have God working in their lives to actually Deliver them from their ungodliness, and worldly lusts. (Titus 2:11-12) (KJV) (blue letter bible) for those who are into the meaning of the words in the bible.... We shall know them by their FRUIT, no matter what they profess...
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10/26/2009 4:42 pm |
Marianne, This Will Be My Last Post Here. THIS backbiting attitude from you and others IS the reason I have not been on this site for over 2 years. I have a real life, which is called ministry, the kind of ministry which my husband ministers to hundreds of Pastors, and I am his helpmate. I don't speak from MY heart because I would rather speak from the word of God that edifies, my opinions don't edify anyone. All I have ever seen in these blogs are opinions, backbiting, and foolish conversation. I save important letters that I write to different people just in case they are needed at a later date which seems to be 3 years in this case, and this is because people say so many things which they don't remember, and I find it quite necessary to keep important documents, which are called facts, and the FACTS are much more powerful than man's opinions. What bible are you people reading/studying? It is obvious that many people here are not under instruction/subjection to a God sent preacher. This is why it is said that we shall know them by their FRUITS, NOT their works for love. Go check out Rom 1:11-13 in the KJV. I really don't care about your little stories, and the stories of others here because they don't have a knowledge of the word of God, so they don't use it, and this is because they are unlearned, and actually despise the scriptures that go against them. How can we know that people despise the scriptures? Because they go AGAINST what they say, and justify themselves. True repentance that has been given by God is WITHOUT self-justification, because it is a GIFT from God. I find it so very sad that so-called Christians can say that they can gain knowledge without the word of God. Hmmm, I wonder why you and Jack never married? I think you need to go back and look at the scriptures, however, I don't believe you are interested in what they have to say about true biblical love, no worries your not alone here! It's funny to see that most so-called believers have NO CHANGE, and this is because they are not being instructed in grace but rather just faith, so these don't have God working in their lives to actually Deliver them from their ungodliness, and worldly lusts. (Titus 2:11-12) (KJV) (blue letter bible) for those who are into the meaning of the words in the bible.... I really doubt that will be your last posting on BC, I just have a feeling. If you have a real life, and a real busy life so it seems if there are "hundreds" of pastors involved and you are the helpmate, then what the heck are you doing here? Ya know missy, its always good to speak from the word of God, but sometimes ya gotta throw a little bit of heart in there too. Then you dont come off as such a stuffed shirt, or a my nose is stuck in the air higher than yours blah de blah know it all. I dont tell my stories to make you care, and how dare you judge me or anyone else here saying that none of us have the knowledge of God nor do we use it. You need to just get down off that high horse your riding around on before you fall off and break your neck. You wonder why Jack and I never married? Can you not read? We were in disagreement on the plan of salvation for starters. Do not assume whether or not I am interested in what you call biblical love, you do not know me. By the way, your always assuming that we are hiding something. Well what about this HisBelovedOne2, her profile is turned off so no one can see where her living area is, or her personal preferences, no photo....AND....when she sent an email to MY PRIVATE, PERSONAL email address requesting me to send money monthly to Jeremiah while he was again in prison she never signed it with her real name, always HisBeloved. Now tell me....WHO IS HIDING WHAT?....HMMMM??? FAITH...Even when I can't see, I still believe.
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