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ruggedntender 75M
557 posts
12/24/2009 11:27 am
Definite SAD sad day for America..


No, not the part that hopefully MOST will have health care, that would be good, but because we were sold out just to get a bill passed. Bribes were offered and taken by what can be called NOTHING less than CROOKS and backstabbers who care NOTHING for America at all. Sure we need health care and change, but it needs to be .. NEEDED to be done for good instead of the potential destruction for most of us. AND YES MOST of us LOST. We will have LESS and costs will go up..

Another thing that hurts a lot is the being loaded on a plane with a Father he don't even hardly know being WHISK away from the FAMILY he has known on Christmas Eve by what appears to me a Father who cares NOTHING for any , and for sure not his and what would be the 's feelings and probable wants right now, that is spending Christmas with HIS family, not his Biological. What a SAD sad story.

I hope in this new year we get some common sense and stop some of these emotion based manipulation we have been seeing in the past.

wereyouthere 43F

12/24/2009 4:30 pm

Hi rugged, I don't know about you but I'm a little "scroogey." And if I don't miss my guess, you sound kinda that way too...

After reading this blog earlier, I tried to follow up on the story about the child being reunited with his real dad. Interesting story...but I couldn't tell today if he actually arrived home with the dad or not. My take on it is that the father desperately wants his son home with him.

As far as the health care plan...it's God's bigger plan that we must see, the bigger picture. And it ain't pretty but it just means that we get to cleave unto Jesus that much more. Not easy but as Christians what other choice do we have?


ruggedntender 75M
502 posts
12/24/2009 5:37 pm

    Quoting wereyouthere:
    Hi rugged, I don't know about you but I'm a little "scroogey." And if I don't miss my guess, you sound kinda that way too...

    After reading this blog earlier, I tried to follow up on the story about the child being reunited with his real dad. Interesting story...but I couldn't tell today if he actually arrived home with the dad or not. My take on it is that the father desperately wants his son home with him.

    As far as the health care plan...it's God's bigger plan that we must see, the bigger picture. And it ain't pretty but it just means that we get to cleave unto Jesus that much more. Not easy but as Christians what other choice do we have?
Hello, and I never thought of people feeling we should not say anything down on a certain day.. LOL .. I almost felt I had a slap in the face when I saw they got the vote through on health care and then the things of the child being taken away from what he had known since 2004 this very day.

I don't know much on the child either as I don't watch TV, but some at SFF's went way nuts off on me like I was .. who knows.. I just felt if his Father who has I guess not seen him or talked to him since he was 4 in 2004.. If the Father cared, he would have at least let HIS son finish Christmas with the ones he had lived with for these last few years.. who knows..

And for Health Care, it has little to do with me, but it seems our kids and their kids will be paying... Yes, I have for the most part lived in Divine health most of my life, but it seems many don't.

Any way, thank you and a very Merry Christmas to you. No matter what day it is, I guess I just never believed in keeping a day, but maybe I am just strange that way... Even when I went to Church many times a week, often every day, I at times would NOT go on Easter or some of the other special days as it seems the wannnnna be people all showed up.. what a joke.. LOL


wereyouthere 43F

12/24/2009 5:57 pm

    Quoting ruggedntender:
    Hello, and I never thought of people feeling we should not say anything down on a certain day.. LOL .. I almost felt I had a slap in the face when I saw they got the vote through on health care and then the things of the child being taken away from what he had known since 2004 this very day.

    I don't know much on the child either as I don't watch TV, but some at SFF's went way nuts off on me like I was .. who knows.. I just felt if his Father who has I guess not seen him or talked to him since he was 4 in 2004.. If the Father cared, he would have at least let HIS son finish Christmas with the ones he had lived with for these last few years.. who knows..

    And for Health Care, it has little to do with me, but it seems our kids and their kids will be paying... Yes, I have for the most part lived in Divine health most of my life, but it seems many don't.

    Any way, thank you and a very Merry Christmas to you. No matter what day it is, I guess I just never believed in keeping a day, but maybe I am just strange that way... Even when I went to Church many times a week, often every day, I at times would NOT go on Easter or some of the other special days as it seems the wannnnna be people all showed up.. what a joke.. LOL
Wannnnna-be people, that's funny!

rugged, the child was abducted by his mom several years ago. The story has it that she was leaving dad at home with the boy for vacation only, but never came back. She later remarried then died. Now the the father and kid's plane has touched down in America and they're together. But not before the grandparents paraded the kid through the streets of Brazil for all media to see on the way to taking him to leave with his real dad.

I can't help but wonder, if the story line was the same but only the country had changed, would your opinion be different? For instance, what if it were Iran instead of Brazil? That's happened too.

Take care, have a good Christmas.


ruggedntender 75M
502 posts
12/24/2009 11:00 pm

    Quoting wereyouthere:
    Wannnnna-be people, that's funny!

    rugged, the child was abducted by his mom several years ago. The story has it that she was leaving dad at home with the boy for vacation only, but never came back. She later remarried then died. Now the the father and kid's plane has touched down in America and they're together. But not before the grandparents paraded the kid through the streets of Brazil for all media to see on the way to taking him to leave with his real dad.

    I can't help but wonder, if the story line was the same but only the country had changed, would your opinion be different? For instance, what if it were Iran instead of Brazil? That's happened too.

    Take care, have a good Christmas.
Thank you and I do understand all that, but my issue was from all indication the FATHER has NOT talked to or been with the son for years... If that is the case he is traumatizing the child, his son which is NOT right or caring for the child.

I agree from what I understand the FATHER should have custody and the child.. I have NO issue with that, just that he, the father did NOT care enough to let the child have Christmas with his FAMILY he has been with for years.. That shows me the Father don't care, but instead is a controller and will hurt his own son for his own selfish winning. He could of at least tried to work with his son to let him have his Christmas as they got to know each other letting the boy know they would fly out to be in the USA before the New Year or something.

NO, the country does not make much difference.. NOW of course if there was danger that might be a bit different, but I don't think that is the case here.

NO, I do not think what the Mother did was right.. well probably not, but we are not talking of her, we are talking of the Child and the past years. I do start wondering about the Father the more I hear of his CONTROL in not caring for the child.. Maybe the Mother was abused and felt that was the only way she could be safe.. if that is the case, then I am not sure I am all way against her and her safety.. who knows.

I again say I do not KNOW any of this and could be way wrong, so I am not trying to argue, just present the way I see love and compassion as working when we try to gently transition our childred.


ruggedntender 75M
502 posts
12/26/2009 10:01 pm

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I would hope all could have or get care.. but I think this way is going to cost a LOT more as they give less and less care. That is not progress. I want them to make it all better is all. thank you and a Merrry Christmas to you..