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Exposing the Psychiatry Movement of 19th. Bipolar is a lie, and so is ADD I bring up this topic for good reasons. I became suspect of the so-called mental disorders such as bipolar and ADD because I knew when I was told I was bipolar by people who don’t even know me, that they were the ones with the mental problems. And lately I did some research about those invented mental disorders. Just to note here that months ago I knew a person who said her had a disorder but it seemed more like brain malfunctions than anything. I read there are mental disorders such as bipolar two, etc, but I was kind of familiar with the term schizophrenic because my friends and others I knew would usually label some maniacs as schizophrenic. It wasn’t that I disagreed with them that there were people who were just crazy, but that we have to interpret thing in condition the society is in. In other words, sometimes people are associated with the worse society ever, but when they see someone partly nice, he or she may be labeled his or her friend. It doesn’t mean that person is their ideal friend. Anyone can do something nice, but it doesn’t mean overall that person is a nice person. For as much as I know anyone can be really a bad person because no one really knows how that person acts at home or in life. But going back to the subject I found it very convenient for those defining bipolar to say that those who are bipolar don’t enjoy things that they would enjoy or use to enjoy. One has to look at the origin of the invented condition such as bipolar or schizophrenia. That can be traced the Psychiatry Movement of the 19th century. That is in the 1800s for those in Pennsylvania. In fact it is not a coincidence that a student of someone thought of as the Father of Psychiatry was a main hero for the Nazi sterilization program. He was Swiss and apparently went to that famous Psychiatry school in Munich, Germany. These guys would mix fact and fiction and make up stuff such as schizophrenia or depression. Or they would classify certain mania from lesser to greater degrees. Either way they wanted to place more blame on the chemical nature instead of the PERCEPTION one may have about things. To me it’s all excuses for not placing blame on truly bad ideas out there. Instead of fixing bad things in society Psychiatrists just want the quick instant capitalistic approach of solving things which is just really treating everyone as a number. I’ll give a better approach and equate something that may happen locally to the ignorance of the Psychiatry Movement or the psychology Czars. We know people sometimes don’t really control their pets. In this case, some dogs are really dangerous if they are not chained or someone’s fence is small enough where a can jump their fence. The solution to this is getting a bigger fence or a good chain for dogs to be restrained when people are leaving their house. However lately on the news I heard that the animal control business wants to issue permits so that pet owners can in the sense register their pets. They also would give them the option to sterilize their pets or as I would rightly predict, they would charge owners to register their pets if they wouldn’t sterilize them. All this avoids the safety of having a chain on the or keeping cats confined in their properties. Back to the subject. Some Psychologists arguments crumble when one sees that these invented disorders are based on a relatively few individuals who did this or that in their lives in which no one can really paint everyone else with. I give a great example about myself. I know that people judge you for your behavior, and I know to what degree they will react or even over react when I would do this or that. It is sort of a game I play with them because at the same time I’m figuring them out, and understand what makes them tic or what doesn’t make them tic. And sometimes they just don’t tic because they are so slow that I wonder if they did take some drugs that not only stopped their impulses but stopped their brain waves. I’m not saying there aren’t any mental disorders because there are some severe mental disorders but to invent new words just to prove some theory only makes the theory look very fake. Take for instance people who have suicidal thoughts. I knew a few people on the net who told me they wanted to kill themselves, but the mental disorder would be someone telling suicidal people lies how they are important or for instance trying to help them with some advice or beliefs. First of all suicidal people are not in the condition that they would here good advice, and beliefs just turn them off anyway. They have to figure out themselves what hope would be, and the best someone can do is just be there for that person. The solution is finding the heart of the problem and bringing the right answers to their problem, and that has to be saying the truth, even if the truth may hurt. In other words, true mental disorders which are not newly discovered mental disorders are considered solutions to people too. A great example is the big lie that we have to utilize our left brain or something and the true mental disorder would be using tax payer money to teach music, arts or psychology. There is mental disorder of someone thinking one has to broaden their world and do more, but that is just gang mentality. I’ve been in the social world long enough to know how to really categorize and classify certain people. But I wouldn’t use a pill solution to deal with those mental disorders. Anyone can label anything a mental disorder but the theory of someone being bipolar or ADD are just pre-Nazi societal brainwashing. The newly invented mental disorders are just the beginning winds before the storm. It got contagious and led to World War II. I read a book about ADD and even that so-called disorder is just as ignorant of how conclusions should be made. A great example that disproves ADD is ADD’s claim that people fail at things. Notice the top of the class are those who are running these big companies and the stock market. They failed and had to ask government to bail them out. Does that mean those successful people had ADD. They were successful and became CEOs and managers, not to mention too, investment czars, but still they failed and not only failed but caused thousands of others to fail, almost destroying the whole united states. So much for someone failing at smaller things. The bigger guy would have done more damage. When I read excerpts of people’s claims to have ADD then I knew it was all hog wash because their failures were based on circumstances that are just unavoidable sometimes. If someone tries to teach a 2 year old calculus they never will because it’s not a mental disorder but just a reality. The amount of time someone fails has nothing to do with a mental disorder for the most part, but with circumstances and the perception someone has. Many people told me I acted nice for the most part, but they saw a side of me that they didn’t like or some just told me I had some problem. They greatly misunderstand the fact the only way they can truly understand someone is if they spend a great deal amount of time with them. The bully mentality makes accusations that someone is bipolar or has some mental condition because it makes him or her feel superior. Just like the Nazis, blaming everything on a few things or a few individuals or types of individuals only makes their world very small, and then they have to conquer the world. Obviously they had some real mental disorders. Talk about without a brain is more like it. For instance people defining bipolar say that those with bipolar may feel isolated and have changing moods from time to time. Then they say those with bipolar should go to a Psychologists or Psychiatrists because they would truly know their conditions. That sounds a lot more like brainwashing where the educated too once said that discovered this or that but then a later discovery shut them up. It wasn’t that they were truly blind before as they might admit but still they give themselves all the credit for the newer discovery when they lead everyone astray in the first place. Just because someone is an expert doesn’t mean he or she knows better. That is why it is called brainwashing because people just follow the crowd and don’t think for themselves. They have no idea especially at a younger age what contains what or what purpose any chemical actually has. So I did know people enough to know when to speak about my views or beliefs. It wasn’t that I had changing moods. I knew that I could act a different way when certain people were in the room. I knew what some would think. I just didn’t know they would use categories that ignorant psychiatrists would make up. I’m not saying again that crazy people don’t exists because they are people filled with hate, and do not have self control. Whether to attribute it to their mental condition I would rather attribute someone’s faults to their lack of wisdom and type of perception they may have. For instance, the perception that some have that bipolar is a mental condition just proves that their perception is off course. The bipolar theory incorporates many things combined into one condition and those things can be used by bullies to intimidate, attack, and falsely gossip about anyone. Psychologists like to bully people and they think they are superior. They want to make their profession as something society would really need, but they are like snake oil salesmen making up a disease that just isn’t there. Yes, there are people that need to be in jail and restrained, but the solution to true mental disorders is offering good ideas, and if psychologists make up all kinds of disorders they rely more on broad brushing and cause good solutions to go out of existence because they are making excuses for everything, besides keeping ignorance reigning every which way but loose. So Psychologists are people with mental disorders. They are the ones that keep society blinded from real truth like the truth that is in the bible or the truth that is in the wisdom of Christian writers,etc. Usually I hear that some criminal was bipolar or some incident where whoever caused something bad to happen that it was that person that was bipolar or had some mental condition. I could see all the labeling if someone was known for having certain drama in their lives and then was involved in some crime or bad event. For instance, I was reading what was said of a terrorists before he blew up a building. They attributed his attitude to events in his life about this or that as though normal people can’t have similar events in their lives. Many times people always say some bad person was a loner and didn’t talk to anyone, and then kind of attribute his bad actions to something bad that happened in his past or her past. Some of the best scientists and famous people were not social, and many people who started off in bad circumstances became contributors to a better society. Jesus fasted in the wilderness for so many days, and even Paul started off putting Christians in jail. The labeling and social categorizing are just selective way for people to keep the status quo. They have to make excuses for their behavior and they don’t want anyone challenging them. Then all of sudden they have to event a mental disorder named bipolar so that no one would challenge them. Bipolar is defined too as being argumentive. That should say it all. They want their established ways to be the rulers of man’s behaviors. This leads me to change the topic to the real culprits of those inventing false disorders. The societal brainwashing is now about making anything that seems extreme to them as something fanatical or just fundamentalists type of teachings. One has to see first in the spectrum the extreme can go the other way too. There are people that like anarchy, but some don’t know that in between anarchy and communism is something called liberalism. It doesn’t mean liberalism is all bad because sometimes people are born into it and may have the chance to get out of it totally if that becomes possible. I was kind of liberal 10 years ago and I am still living with a few minor consequences of it. The fact that I seemed to be always fault finding made some think I had been hurt in life or I was better than anyone was just their judge-mental attitude. It was as though they were labeling my fault-finding as a fault, so they became fault finding. How ironic, but stating what is wrong from right is not fault-finding but a sign of good character. If the society is mostly brainwashed, anything new they would hear would seem like fault-finding but it’s like shining a light in darkness. Sometimes people just are too much into the darkness that everything different they don’t believe must be extreme or muslim as some might say. So they associate things they don’t like with people they disagree with it or behaviors like stalking or harassing. When the really educated establish their ideas as the standard then people who listen to those standards never really check or really prove those ideas. It just like vaccines, many people won’t question them because somehow just because professionals want people to get shots it must be the right thing to do. People are made to believe that fluoride in drinking water might help , but they know that is their lack of standards in controlling that toxic substance in the first place that makes people want to put fluoride in water. It is the same thing with the idea of sterilizing animals when they know that they could solve the animal problem by limiting how many animals or what type of animals people can have. For instance they should make a law banning people from having cats in city neighborhoods because cats will roam and make a mess elsewhere. Instead of having all these population problems they should put bigger limits on immigration until a nation or state gets their population problems solved. Society wants all these quick instant solutions, that in the long run, true moral standards will disintegrate. It’s not that I was extreme or fundamental. It was that they don’t like a moral solution. They don’t like to make lasting solutions. Instead they need to demonize people who are moral so that they can promote their compromised ways. It’s all their agenda to be inclusive at the cost of doing away with true moral standards. When they have the tools of psychiatry they can forever have the upperhand in making certain behaviors as disorders when they know that sometimes people can really love something and wouldn’t let peer pressure or societies brainwashing take their God-given rights away. They can’t mix their lies with true solutions because that still means they don’t have any sense. Looking to the source of any problem too is the solution. Just like when the Psychiatry Movement started, I pinpointed how some just like to mix their bad ideas with truly right normal thinking. Psychologists come from Bullism, and that is the heart of dictators like Hitler and the Nazi movement. They just will never learn until the truth makes them see that the solution to many things they can't really understand is Christ. |
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Where is evidence to back up your opinion or rather this guys opinion? There is a vast amount of studies that show the brain structure of bipolar and other mental illness are different than normal people as well as lacking particular chemicals (dopamine) that inhibit proper Nero transmitter charges in the brian. This kind of argument is based on ignorance. The bible says that all men are under sin....and receive in their bodies the results of sin(which is inherited).....Romans chapter 1 Isaiah 42:8 " I am the Lord; that is my name! And My glory I will not give to another, nor My praise to graven images."
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When you say ADD, I assume you also include ADHD. As I've said before, anyone who does NOT believe ADHD is real should spend a day with my son unmedicated. Even just a short period of time with him unmedicated would convince you he's got a REAL malady. I'm SOOOOOOOOOO tired of people saying ADHD is NOT real!!!!!!!!!! Cathy "For He must become greater; I must become less." John 3:30
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I am in the medical profession and strongly disagree with most everything written here; medicine may have roots that originated many years ago but in no field of medicine, psychiatry included, do we continue to function in that realm. We practice now what we refer to as evidence-based medicine; meaning what we do is not based strictly on unproved theory or hocus-pocus or anecdotal evidence (i.e. testimonials). We practice on the basis of research and placebo-controlled clinical trials; certainly thought and theory is what drives most great discoveries in the realm of medicine, but these thoughts and theories must be proven and able to be reproduced. In light of that we have established tools to diagnosis depression, anxiety and bipolar disorder; with bipolar disorder there are different types: mixed, manic, and depression-predominant. There are different treatments for each; I have treated people who were misdiagnosed; in other words they were diagnosed with depression and the diagnostic tools were not used and a diagnosis of bipolar disorder was missed. Many of the medicines used to treat depression may make the symptoms of bipolar disorder worse. When started on the appropriate medications the results are life-altering; if you could witness the gratitude of patients who finally feel well, who are able to function normally and enjoy life you would see the results of a correct diagnosis and treatment. Psychiatric conditions are medical conditions, as much as hypertension, diabetes, hyperlipidemia and should carry no stigma; stigma, even by well meaning Christians, creates guilt and often prevents people from getting the help that they need. Certainly diet and maintenance of general health, and our Christian faith are vital to all of us; however God gave us medicine and it is not wrong to use it to be well, and to help others. God does not tell a diabetic not to take his medication any more than He would tell someone with a true psychiatric condition not to take their medication. Many psychiatric conditions, including bipolar disorder and schizophrenia, have a strong genetic link; it is not merely a matter of believing or praying hard enough. My prayer is that those who truly need help would seek the medical help that they need and that the Church would be supportive of them and not create guilt that would add to their current symptoms. There are many Christian psychiatrists and psychologists; if symptoms are interfering with the enjoyment of life, are persistent (lasting more than 2 weeks) please contact a medical provider to get the help and direction that you need. And don't be afraid to seek a second medical opinion if needed. He is no fool if he should choose to lose the things he cannot keep to gain what he can never lose.....Jim Elliott Deena 
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Sweethoney and Tulsa Pitgirl you make valid statements; yes ADHD is indeed a medical condition; it is not simply a child being a child and having discipline issues; again, this is another condition that can have strong genetic roots. Often when we diagnose a child we find that the parents also have ADHD, and some have been unable to function normally in their work environment, until appropriately diagnosed and treated. Again the correct diagnosis and treatment can be life changing. He is no fool if he should choose to lose the things he cannot keep to gain what he can never lose.....Jim Elliott Deena
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Appropriate diet is important for everyone's general health. However I don't think that you can recommend such as treatment for depression, anxiety, schizophrenia, or bipolar disorder...what you point out is what we in the medical profession refer to as anectodatal evidence or testimonial and is not valid for recommending treatment. However if your theory is supported by the appropriate placebo-controlled, scientifically valid clinic trials, the results of which are reproducible in several large trials, then I would reconsider my comment. Diet is not a clinically proven treatment for the above disorders. He is no fool if he should choose to lose the things he cannot keep to gain what he can never lose.....Jim Elliott Deena
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philopatir Actually, I partly agree with you, in that yes, diet is very important but mental illness is a disease of the brain (dysfunction) just like cancer or heart disease. Both can be helped with diet but not cured. Many illnesses are based on genetic predisposal. I do not agree that foods have anything to do with ones salvation as the SDA do. Isaiah 42:8 " I am the Lord; that is my name! And My glory I will not give to another, nor My praise to graven images."
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Hi everyone, Before I address the specifics of anyone's reply let me try to state the main theme of my post. First, at least 10 people over a 5 year period on the net just threw out at me that I might be bipolar. It wasn't a coincidence that these people who told me this were from similar type of characteristics and backgrounds. Second, we have to realize that the disorders I addressed were not given their names until maybe as early as the 19th century. The Father of Psychiatry who was a citizen of Germany also lived before the first world war. And I mention one of his students was working for the Nazi sterilization program. I know many Germans hated communism, but definitely eugenics and the master race theory was tied to the Psychiatry movement. The main idea was as one post stated was that the disorders had the back up of science as medical technology increased. Third we have to realize that society was going along great without all these newer disorders that were supposedly recently discovered the last 100 years. We can assume that depression as it defined existed even centuries ago, but as defined it calls depression a disorder. Let me go back to a post where someone said her kid had one of disorders I may have talked about. We assume that is the kid that has the problem and not the school. If you really think about the school system we know teachers still issue grades and other competitive stuff that in the end either can make a student more noticed or less noticed. That is a reality and why should any kid follow that format. Because wouldn't a student learn more if the teacher gave the questions with the answers, and also would instead show them what things to look for when reading or how to understand every specific thing about math, science, and reading. Some professors too give a great deal of good notes and usually anyone can make a B if they studied those notes. However, many kids and students are just left on their own, and sometimes they are searching for tutors or other ways to help them understand anything. The point here is that a school curriculum based on outcomes that end up making everything competitive is the wrong way to teach kids or students. Some will make better grades but we can't blame kids for not wanting to take part in this greedy selective ways of teaching. So all of sudden if a kid doesn't take interest in something he or she is the odd ball, or if a kid gets distracted towards something, we avoid the reality that huge crowded populations is a sickness and disorder in itself. Take for instance how epidemics of disease happened. They thought they stopped a killer type of virus but then in the early 20th century the spanish flu began spreading. These viruses made the way first through huge populations such as Miami, Boston, or Chicago, and then maybe other smaller towns got a few cases. So people think giving people drugs solves some of the mental problems but then a new disorder is discovered. We can all agree that depression could mean too that someone is just sad all the time for one reason or another. The definition says they can't concentrated and may feel guilty. We learn through history. People raise their kids different ways. I had heard on radio weeks ago how many of the cases that were diagnosed to have some disorder were not really disorders, and this was the time Michael Savage was interviewing a professional. The point here is why is every supposed negative thought someone has called depression or some disorder. It is kind of like saying to people get a vaccine because if one doesn't they can spread it. The idea here is that no one really knows what the vaccine has and many of those vaccines are for viruses that were prevalent at different times and in a way different environment than what some have now. For instance, I think Tetanus originates from horses, and another virus can originate from farmlands. I know some viruses are contagious but are we to just let society bunch us all up in schools and then round them up for shots when they feel it's necessary. Sounds more like an ignorant educational system where teachers tell kids that evolution exists and then act like we are not sure creation was exactly in 6 days. It's all the bolony some professionals want to use because thatis there idea of control, when hundreds of other scientists for instance, disproved global warning, except they won't get recognized because those in the dark ages sold their snake oil with all the time in the world. Fourth, I want to know if there is anything in any psychology or psychiatry book that gives a Christ solution. I'm sure because of the state beliefs are forbidden to be offered solutions in any school book, but see that is why I say it is a Psychiatry movement based on things that can be proven false as the medical field grows. It is sort of like those professionals who want to test their theories on criminals or mice when only a mad scientist who does bizarre things in the first place can think of such horrors or inhumane experiments on any type of animal. And I know many placebos are just as crazy. I even read the small pox vaccines give in Africa could have been responsible for the Aids epidemics. I mean the fact that these white shirts are experimenting shows that they really have no morals, and would be the last people to realize the salvation that God gives to mankind. I'll give a great example. I think there was an incident so many years ago where a religious school refused to give their kids vaccines, and this was a school in poor neighborhood where obviously many of the kids had poor nutrition etc. Right away as soon as many of those kids contracted a virus, the secular state was quick to point a finger at Christians, and then you know blame fundamentals for ignorance and extremism. I think a few kids had died for one reason or another, but how do they know if it was someone who got a vaccine first and then had contact with anyone of those kids. Some vaccines contain the live viruses themselves and how are we to know if the vaccines were made right. When President Ford mandated one vaccine there was a big lawsuit because that vaccine had caused people to die or be disabled, and professionals admitted that vaccine wasn't made right. Notice too that many of these epidemics happened after big wars or after there was lots of immigration. Isn't there another story to the smallpox epidemic where the virus may have been transferred by something nicknamed the 'bed bug,' and this bug is known to eat on dead stuff. Is it a coicidence then that the epidemics happened after big wars. Is doesn't come to mind to anyone that the disorders talked about here were coming on the scene just when Hitler decided to make Europe one. I think the fact that these disorders came to be known first in Germany says it all. When you read how these disorders are defined that should put the big red light that these inventions are biased and have one main goal; to make people dependent on chemicals, as though people can't change on their own free will. No matter how much someone tries to teach a two year old algebra, they will never succeed. That is why criminals are usually very immature; many of them didn't have a good parent or didn't have a role model. When some get older they lack the guidance and understanding to change so they end up doing all kinds of bad stuff. The state of Illinoise is a great example where a bad society breeds bad people. It wasn't that they didn't have enough pills to solve anything. This is the question that must be answered. We shouldn't care too much if a person has a high IQ or if someone makes A's. Those people too invented bad things too and not to mention are responsible for the financial calamities that happened recently. Germany invented a lot of good things but they also caused thousands of innocent deaths; all in the name of the better race. So the question is character and it looks like psychiatrists as well as socialists and psychologists don't have a character. Their agenda becomes clear when they want to label someone being argumentative as bipolar because some just want to monopolize and be a dictator on how they view things. I know some have a problem with anger but the solution is they need to grow up, and I don't think any pill can make a person 5 years older. Like the proverbs states, 'Train up a child in the way he should go, even when he is old he will depart from it'. Spare the rod, spare the child. Yelling at a child works too and i'm not saying hit a child hard either. Just saying we have free will and most of time we shouldn't make the excuse that someone has a disorder. We should fully punish anyone who doesn't obey the right rules, and I'm talking about adults and not children.
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Yes, environment does matter for sure but poverty runs in family lines and so does mental illness and criminal activity. However, studies show that adopted twins over 50 percent of the time inherit the illnesses of the biological parent. They have actually now pin pointed a gene that causes those who do heroin to become addicted. sure one has to participate in heroin to become addicted but they are predisposed to developing and being drawn to that drug. Heroin addicts do not manufacture enough dopamine and suffer from a depressed state of mind. A study on criminal behavior reveals severe personality disorders and addictions, among criminals. The spiritual problems must be dealt first and foremost. Becoming anew creature in christ changes the natural man into a spiritual man with Gods nature dwelling in him. Only this can set an addict or mentally ill person free. The body is only the body. The brain is a part of the body and is not the spirit of Man. Medication is helpful as well as behavioral and cognitive therapy. But the best help is for Gods divine intervention. Isaiah 42:8 " I am the Lord; that is my name! And My glory I will not give to another, nor My praise to graven images."
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Hi everyone, Before I address the specifics of anyone's reply let me try to state the main theme of my post. First, at least 10 people over a 5 year period on the net just threw out at me that I might be bipolar. It wasn't a coincidence that these people who told me this were from similar type of characteristics and backgrounds. Second, we have to realize that the disorders I addressed were not given their names until maybe as early as the 19th century. The Father of Psychiatry who was a citizen of Germany also lived before the first world war. And I mention one of his students was working for the Nazi sterilization program. I know many Germans hated communism, but definitely eugenics and the master race theory was tied to the Psychiatry movement. The main idea was as one post stated was that the disorders had the back up of science as medical technology increased. Third we have to realize that society was going along great without all these newer disorders that were supposedly recently discovered the last 100 years. We can assume that depression as it defined existed even centuries ago, but as defined it calls depression a disorder. Let me go back to a post where someone said her kid had one of disorders I may have talked about. We assume that is the kid that has the problem and not the school. If you really think about the school system we know teachers still issue grades and other competitive stuff that in the end either can make a student more noticed or less noticed. That is a reality and why should any kid follow that format. Because wouldn't a student learn more if the teacher gave the questions with the answers, and also would instead show them what things to look for when reading or how to understand every specific thing about math, science, and reading. Some professors too give a great deal of good notes and usually anyone can make a B if they studied those notes. However, many kids and students are just left on their own, and sometimes they are searching for tutors or other ways to help them understand anything. The point here is that a school curriculum based on outcomes that end up making everything competitive is the wrong way to teach kids or students. Some will make better grades but we can't blame kids for not wanting to take part in this greedy selective ways of teaching. So all of sudden if a kid doesn't take interest in something he or she is the odd ball, or if a kid gets distracted towards something, we avoid the reality that huge crowded populations is a sickness and disorder in itself. Take for instance how epidemics of disease happened. They thought they stopped a killer type of virus but then in the early 20th century the spanish flu began spreading. These viruses made the way first through huge populations such as Miami, Boston, or Chicago, and then maybe other smaller towns got a few cases. So people think giving people drugs solves some of the mental problems but then a new disorder is discovered. We can all agree that depression could mean too that someone is just sad all the time for one reason or another. The definition says they can't concentrated and may feel guilty. We learn through history. People raise their kids different ways. I had heard on radio weeks ago how many of the cases that were diagnosed to have some disorder were not really disorders, and this was the time Michael Savage was interviewing a professional. The point here is why is every supposed negative thought someone has called depression or some disorder. It is kind of like saying to people get a vaccine because if one doesn't they can spread it. The idea here is that no one really knows what the vaccine has and many of those vaccines are for viruses that were prevalent at different times and in a way different environment than what some have now. For instance, I think Tetanus originates from horses, and another virus can originate from farmlands. I know some viruses are contagious but are we to just let society bunch us all up in schools and then round them up for shots when they feel it's necessary. Sounds more like an ignorant educational system where teachers tell kids that evolution exists and then act like we are not sure creation was exactly in 6 days. It's all the bolony some professionals want to use because thatis there idea of control, when hundreds of other scientists for instance, disproved global warning, except they won't get recognized because those in the dark ages sold their snake oil with all the time in the world. Fourth, I want to know if there is anything in any psychology or psychiatry book that gives a Christ solution. I'm sure because of the state beliefs are forbidden to be offered solutions in any school book, but see that is why I say it is a Psychiatry movement based on things that can be proven false as the medical field grows. It is sort of like those professionals who want to test their theories on criminals or mice when only a mad scientist who does bizarre things in the first place can think of such horrors or inhumane experiments on any type of animal. And I know many placebos are just as crazy. I even read the small pox vaccines give in Africa could have been responsible for the Aids epidemics. I mean the fact that these white shirts are experimenting shows that they really have no morals, and would be the last people to realize the salvation that God gives to mankind. I'll give a great example. I think there was an incident so many years ago where a religious school refused to give their kids vaccines, and this was a school in poor neighborhood where obviously many of the kids had poor nutrition etc. Right away as soon as many of those kids contracted a virus, the secular state was quick to point a finger at Christians, and then you know blame fundamentals for ignorance and extremism. I think a few kids had died for one reason or another, but how do they know if it was someone who got a vaccine first and then had contact with anyone of those kids. Some vaccines contain the live viruses themselves and how are we to know if the vaccines were made right. When President Ford mandated one vaccine there was a big lawsuit because that vaccine had caused people to die or be disabled, and professionals admitted that vaccine wasn't made right. Notice too that many of these epidemics happened after big wars or after there was lots of immigration. Isn't there another story to the smallpox epidemic where the virus may have been transferred by something nicknamed the 'bed bug,' and this bug is known to eat on dead stuff. Is it a coicidence then that the epidemics happened after big wars. Is doesn't come to mind to anyone that the disorders talked about here were coming on the scene just when Hitler decided to make Europe one. I think the fact that these disorders came to be known first in Germany says it all. When you read how these disorders are defined that should put the big red light that these inventions are biased and have one main goal; to make people dependent on chemicals, as though people can't change on their own free will. No matter how much someone tries to teach a two year old algebra, they will never succeed. That is why criminals are usually very immature; many of them didn't have a good parent or didn't have a role model. When some get older they lack the guidance and understanding to change so they end up doing all kinds of bad stuff. The state of Illinoise is a great example where a bad society breeds bad people. It wasn't that they didn't have enough pills to solve anything. This is the question that must be answered. We shouldn't care too much if a person has a high IQ or if someone makes A's. Those people too invented bad things too and not to mention are responsible for the financial calamities that happened recently. Germany invented a lot of good things but they also caused thousands of innocent deaths; all in the name of the better race. So the question is character and it looks like psychiatrists as well as socialists and psychologists don't have a character. Their agenda becomes clear when they want to label someone being argumentative as bipolar because some just want to monopolize and be a dictator on how they view things. I know some have a problem with anger but the solution is they need to grow up, and I don't think any pill can make a person 5 years older. Like the proverbs states, 'Train up a child in the way he should go, even when he is old he will depart from it'. Spare the rod, spare the child. Yelling at a child works too and i'm not saying hit a child hard either. Just saying we have free will and most of time we shouldn't make the excuse that someone has a disorder. We should fully punish anyone who doesn't obey the right rules, and I'm talking about adults and not children. I am currently reading a book, "No More Ritalin - Treating ADHD Without Drugs" by Dr. Mary Ann Block. It is a very interesting book that basically puts forth the opinion that all cases of ADHD/ADD have an actual medical basis; i.e. food allergies, whatever the case may be. In other words, if you treat the underlying cause, you alleviate the ADHD/ADD symptoms. I discussed this with my son's psychiatrist and she said this is definitely the minority opinion. She had not read this particular book, and promised to do so and let me know her opinion, once she finished it. But the majority opinion in the medical community is ADHD/ADD generally does not have an underlying cause. And again, I'm sure Deena will correct me if I'm wrong, but that's what I understood after my conversation with my son's psychiatrist. "For He must become greater; I must become less." John 3:30
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12/12/2008 8:18 am |
Tulsa said: ADHD and ADD are much MORE than a child simply NOT taking interest; these children and adults are not able to function normally without meds in most cases. Deena will probably correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that is actually the criteria for diagnosing these disorders, that the person's ability to function normally in society is impaired. Which my son cannot function normally/properly without his meds. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Tulsa, maybe you did give general idea of what it meant to not function normally, but it is a sensitive topic because it incorporates past events and ofcourse the social police if you understand. But this is what I am getting at and that is what exactly does it mean to function normally. I don't speak as a professional or even a person that is perfect, but I had adults who I knew who didn't seem to function normally, and I mean in my definition of what is normal. Or maybe I'm not using the right terms but there are people who may do things all the wrong way, but people still regard them as normal. A great example could be Hitler. Hitler was loved by thousands; he got into power with the help of many friends who for the most part had some belief in God. And to think some will see Saddam Hussein as normal enough so it wouldn't be a pretext for invasion is just reality we can't avoid. In other words, character of someone is weighed in the balance, but actions are not attempted against an aggressor until as they say the community of nations decides someone or some nation is a threat. On an individual level I've seen bullies and abusers in school who act normal but still do things that are just wrong. For those things I wouldn't label them anything but would be for a society that puts these type of dangerous people away for good. It I said the disorders were caused by lack of a good role model in the kids life then I only play the game that someone who for instance is bipolar needs medication. I'm not going to blame an organic culprit in most of these so-called disorders. In fact, it was fasting that is a good thing and the only solution to repeat criminals is to isolate them and lock them up for life. That's if assuming they won't be abused in confinement. I've seen certain individuals who seem really out there but I still wouldn't trust them no matter how many drugs they took. Words come from the heart as Jesus said and many of those insane people need spiritual help as well as guidance, but to associate with those type of people is a wrong in itself unless one is trying to help them. Countless of people who tried associate with criminals and ended up being abused or having something bad happen to them. I think many of those drugs are just about experimentation and the disorders have been used to excuse bad behavior. That's why I believe Romans chapter 13 is for today too. God put kings and rulers on earth to punish evil. 'They don't bare the sword in vain', as the passage states. Blame should be placed mostly in the society and the individual, and not on lack of this or that chemical. The question is what exactly is considered not normal and what circumstances and events are involved to whatever action someone does. In my opinion, society in it's condition is just letting the better of so many evils define human actions and that is the biggest mistake ever. Half-truths won't solve anything
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12/12/2008 3:25 pm |
Sweethoney says: Where is evidence to back up your opinion or rather this guys opinion? There is a vast amount of studies that show the brain structure of bipolar and other mental illness are different than normal people as well as lacking particular chemicals (dopamine) that inhibit proper Nero transmitter charges in the brian. This kind of argument is based on ignorance. The bible says that all men are under sin....and receive in their bodies the results of sin(which is inherited).....Romans chapter 1 -------------------------------------------------------------------- Time and time again I see another website define what is bipolar and it doesn't look in the disorder's favor if you understand. I would copy and paste one article about something from a website that kind of really proves what I'm trying to say. Here is what I read but I will summarize it here: The article said that people who are bipolar may sometimes feel like on a mission; they may think some big giant thing such as government is after them. The article also said that those with depression may also have beliefs in God and feel he or she is someone that can save humanity from whatever. The article also said that those with depression may also fear losing people close to them and then feel guilty about being negative to someone. -------------------------------------------------------------- I think that article shows the agenda of the Psychiatry Movement. It is just a reaction to the fear that there really is a people of God that can use the bible in things in life. And they know if they can stop these supposedly argumentive people who are so-called bipolar they can not only save their profession but also promote irresponsibility because Psychologists think people have a right to be irresponsible no matter what is is. -----Mark
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