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Tropical_Man 67M
6575 posts
11/21/2011 5:54 am
the box inside the box


In life, we all have our concepts of what life is all about. We also seem to compartmentalize everything so in our ways we can make sense of things. Its just what most of us do. If we look over here at our Spiritual, we have a list in our head of how we view and believe. In Politics, the same. How we think of family, friends, relationships. We all have concepts. Some of them based on experience, some on rearing. But we usually come to some conclusion.



The word states that the Christian is of the world but not in it. Meaning that we are physically here, but our reality is to be found in God's Spiritual Kingdom here on earth that is entered into by receiving Jesus Christ as savior. This kind of reminds me of the person that finally gets somewhere, and asks, I am here now...what do I do.



Christianity is supposed to be a living, life giving experience that is led by the Holy Spirit.When we look at what Jesus did, he abided in the father.Then when we look at Paul, he abided in Jesus. This meant that the Father lived through the human nature of Jesus, and that Jesus lived through the humanity named Paul.



Its interesting. Somewhere a long the line, Christianity goes from being abiding, to emulation in many peoples lives. In doing this, (and we have all done it) it goes from being empowered by God to doing things in our own strength. What happens when we carry the burden as opposed to giving the burdens to him? We experience burnout in life. You might be thinking, so that is what causes it! Well it is a good portion of it and it makes sense.



I could take you through the old testament and new testament and show you case after case of human failure when they were trying to do it in their own strength. Samson? David? Moses to name a few. In the end they decided to let God be God and the situations changed as well as the circumstances. Peter screwed up so much that Jesus once called him Satan. That's pretty embarrassing isn't it? I do not think too many of us wish to have a Damascus road experience and be humbled the way Saul was. But it was all part of their journey. We all have a journey.



I have been a part of a fellowship that witnessed God do mighty things in another fellowship So our Pastor decided to do things just as the other leaders in this other fellowship did in attain their blessings. What is that "clang" I heard? Its the loud gong of failure. That is what happened to us because God is not the God of tons of pat answers. The only answer is Jesus, and the things God does are things of the spirit. Just as God deals in nurturing each of us in his own way that best deals with our individuality, he also deals with the growth of fellowships differently because the dynamics are different in each group.



In man-woman relationships, the dynamics are always different because each person brings something entirely different to the relationship. Yes many basics hold true, but at the same time the rough edges of the relationship is different. We in time find this out, but God of course already knows it. That is precisely why what happened there because God initiated it and they were obedient ; will probably be a loud clunk as it fails in other places because God did not initiate it. Man did.



One of my favorite scriptures says, It is not by might, not by power; but by my spirit says the Lord. So if it is not happening by his Spirit, it is us doing it and we have all been there and been disappointed and burnt out. That seems to go on until something inspires us and we get back on the wagon again full speed ahead.



But when we abide, start each day with, Jesus! Live through me, then its all good and works well. Our lives are so much better in allowing God to live through us. We can kind of step back and see him doing amazing things through us and it all makes sense. To him needs to be all glory. It is not us, it is just us being obedient and getting out of the way.It is so easy to get caught up in performing, but he doesn't ask us to perform, he asks us to abide.Big difference. There is life found in abiding, and there is burn out found in performance.

Tropical_Man 67M
6389 posts
11/22/2011 3:30 am

Jody, one would have to know what they are talking about in order to correct. Someone once stated that instead of being in love with the book, they should check out the Author. That is where the choice should be. The prodigal sons brother lived and did what he believed to be right. Yet, he had no clue what his fathers heart was all about. Otherwise, he too would have left. He would have personally found his brother and brought him home.

Neets I have never disliked you. Now if you are still into the Universalism, that is sad because it slaps the cross right in the face. I have many friends who were once Universalists that have seen truth and repented.

Now Jody here unfortunately is a religious zealot. He is kinda like Egypt in that what he has been taught, no one should go back to. Its also non-life giving. Sad.


Tropical_Man 67M
6389 posts
11/22/2011 3:59 am

and Jody, Christians were judged at the cross. Found innocent by faith.