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Tropical_Man 68M
6573 posts
3/31/2011 5:19 am
Re-Creating the Golden Calf


I am sure most people are aware of when Moses was up on the top of the mountain receiving the ten commandments, the people of Israel grew impatient and kinda went off the chain. They turned their backs on God and created a Golden Calf Idol in which to worship. Of course when Moses comes back all hell breaks loose and it got ugly as the chain was abruptly reigned in and a come to Jesus speech ensued on the part of Moses.



Then there was also the time when they were being delivered from Egypt and they murmured saying they should have just stayed back in that bondage. It seems like every time people are on the verge of really getting it something like fear steps in and derails what could really be a big blessing and life changing. Eventually people seem to get it, but they seem to go screaming and dragging their feet.



If i were to want to understand how to build a car that would work in today's world of interstate as well as congested inter city driving, where would I look? Would I look at the original Henry Ford plans for his cars at the turn of the century? Or would I be better served to look at a late model Ford's plans. Plans that would show power steering, tires that would take high speed and sudden stops. Shocks that would absorb the bumps in the road? Of course the answer would clearly be the ones created for now.



Its' interesting that some things people will say are so biblical for today and Christianity are not even found either in the bible, or the framework of the New Covenant of Christ. Examples ? " God helps those who help themselves." You will not find that anywhere in the bible. That one does not even exist. In the New Covenant of Grace under Christ, we are all blessed by God because of what Jesus did on that cross for mankind. Born again believers in Jesus are under blessing. It is that simple.



Another thing I keep hearing and I used to buy into is You can always tell the depth of a Christian Believer by his wallet. That is another one that is simply not scripturally founded. You will not find that in the bible. But what do you find that sets believers apart? The bible actually says that you will know them by their love for one another. Key words.... one another.



The biggest golden calf in Christianity is when tithing is promoted and taught. It usually is added in right behind the wallet thing. It is interesting. People can teach Grace and speak of how everything is made a new in the New Covenant, yet they bring in tithing. The fact is, even though money was used in the old testament, tithing was never about money. Most often it was wheat that was tithed by farmers and it was close to 30% that they gave to feed the people within the city. They helped the poor.



Jesus, the disciples and the poor never tithed. Jesus, nor the disciples taught tithing. he taught giving. Here in the United States, tithing was not taught until 1873. The reformers dismissed it as a non-Christian doctrine. Giving is good, and that is made up of many things besides money Your time is part of your giving. We should give as the Holy Spirit leads us to do. It is not an obligation, but an act of love. So if we lean so hard on Jesus's teachings and he did not teach tithing and his disciples that he trained did not teach it, why are Pastors today teaching it? It is not there.



for a great read with vast scriptural backing on what I just said, you can go here and scroll down about 1/3 of the page.... but google Should the church teach tithing, Russel kelley


HeavenlySights 71F

3/31/2011 9:30 am

Hi Dennis, you say this, "God helps those who help themselves. You will not find that anywhere in the bible."

But what about this scripture,

"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself." Galatians 5:14


Tropical_Man 68M
6389 posts
4/1/2011 5:06 am

Yes but that is not what the theme is. The theme is creating something and forcing it upon people when it is not true.


Tropical_Man 68M
6389 posts
4/1/2011 5:09 am

I love Galatians, but loving yourself is not always about the warm and fuzzy. It is also disciplining yourself to make the right decisions etc. Taking care of what you do have and maintaining. The same thought rings true to the people God puts in your life which are your real neighbors


HeavenlySights 71F

4/4/2011 8:31 pm

Thanks for explaining, Dennis!