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Tropical_Man 68M
6573 posts
11/2/2010 9:20 am
Circling Moses' Mountain

Jesus said to be perfect as he is perfect.There are a lot of people who are born again Christians that chase this rabbit trail because they do not understand what he was saying. It is usually because they get taught a performance based belief system when it is actually a faith and Grace Covenant that we are under. For we are saved by Grace in faith and not works which anyone should boast.



A better translation is be you complete as I am complete. If we could indeed be perfect by our own actions, why would Jesus ever need die on a cross in the first place. The word tells us that only one ever fulfilled and kept the law but one and that was Jesus. I guess it was God's way of showing mankind that we are failures and in need of him and a savior.



God's word tells us that we are the righteousness of God in Christ Jesus. In Christ Jesus we are viewed as righteous. If that is true, and I believe it is because God said so...then we also are no longer viewed by God as a sinner. We can not be viewed as righteous and a sinner at the same time. So, in Jesus were are righteous and not a sinner. When someone says that, they are contradicting what God says about those who are in Christ... Oh, I hear twisters and spinners say, well that means only when you are obedient are you in Christ. Once again...we are saved by grace in faith and not of good works which anyone can boast. His words, not mine. So no, we are in Christ when we receive him.



Like in any relationship, the depth and beauty is found in the time you spend with that other person. In God it is no different. In today's' world we get confusing and wrong signals. No where will you find "God helps those who helps themselves". It is not in there. Then we are told of purpose driven and that is not right either. We are told to be Spirit led. It all boils down to the depth that we get will be decided by the intimacy we have with God. The word proclaims that we have the mind of Christ as a believer. It also says we should renew our minds daily. That comes with interaction. if you, who have do not interact with them, then how can you know their hearts and desires? Jer 31:33-34 tells us God gives all born again believers a new heart and writes right and wrong on their hearts. We know what is right.



The Lord tore the veil between himself and mankind when Jesus gave atonement on that cross. We have no excuse to not be close to him. We can chose...keep walking around the mountain or allow him to live through us. There is no condemnation in Christ Jesus. Bottom line is this. if Christ is living through you, how can you not be pleasing to God?



TwoCents 77F
2510 posts
11/2/2010 1:45 pm

Amen! Preach it!
It is so simple, man makes it hard!



Live like there's no tomorrow
Laugh when you feel like crying
Love like you've never been hurt


Tropical_Man 68M
6389 posts
11/4/2010 3:38 am

thank You Ladies