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Tropical_Man 68M
6573 posts
9/11/2010 4:34 am
the World gets it before the Believer does


I was talking to a friend, Mark Kenney the other day. We always have some good and interesting conversations. He pointed out something that I had always felt. The world can see things more clear in many cases because many instances the Christians are pre-occupied. It should not be that way but it is.

If we were really spending time hearing the Holy Spirit instead of listening to people tickle ears we would be the trend setters in music, fashion, social ideas and business. Instead we are usually followers. Like a kitten chasing after the tail of an adult cat. Following them around to see what he will do next.

Today is the 9th anniversary of 9-11 in which Islam attacked the United States. Radical Muslims did not do this. Muslims did. As far back as their History goes, they have been rabid murderers, , liars and aggressors either assimilating the world or killing what refuses to be assimilated. 139 times in its scriptures it tells their believers to kill and fight anyone not a muslim . It states it is ok to lie in order to further the demonic kingdom of islam. The moon god allah...a pagan god he is.

Christians are supposed to be abiders. Meaning Jesus living the rough us, but they get caught up in following men just like anyone else.Men are fallible and corrupt. We as Christians seem to forget that God has written right and wrong on our hearts. We have no excuse in doing wrong, because we know inside what is right and wrong. If we have a question or check inside, its probably because we know it is wrong.

People follow religious leaders such as Benny Hinn, Paula White, Fred Price, Rick Warren, The Kansas City prophets, The Mystics and New Agers in the so called Christian Circles. Yet the world takes a quick peek and sizes them up as phony's. People out for themselves and misleading people.

Yes it is obvious. But you know what? Almost most of those same people when they see a real act of God will also point and say...now that is God. They have to have very hard hearts to deny God exists and that he is at work in this planet. The word says the beauty and intricacy of nature itself points to a creator.

Christianity is simple. Receive Christ. Allow him to live through you. God does NOT help those who HELP themselves. He helps those who allow him to live through them.

But instead we get caught up in this trap of trying to be perfect or complete as Jesus was instead of identifying in his completeness and perfection. It isn't you do and then God will do, as that is old dead covenant It is we are because of Jesus, we have because of Jesus. All things because of Jesus. It is simple and yet we go down bunny trails led by men and their ideas and concepts. All of this can be averted by listening to God over men.

Our country here in America was formed by men who believed our freedoms came from God. Our rights came from God and the ultimate good found in life was God and not man. They knew men would ruin governments, and spoke of the importance of electing good people.

Instead of always trying to look for the best, we would be much better off looking at things how they actually are. Stop the hero worship of people. Take a close look at their strengths and weaknesses and judge this appropriately. Size up the worthiness in people who wish to lead and stop making people out to be something they are not. Decide of which with their faults you can live with their ability to lead. Is it good or bad over all?

Then make decisions based on what are factual instead of peoples' comments. Go to God. Ask him and take the time to learn instead of presumption. In doctrine, spend time with the Holy Spirit instead of what a mere man has to say. That is why he resides in you. Not to sit and listen to men with you. It is backwards that way.

Think about it. Mystics were not believers and yet those three wise men found baby Jesus in that manger. They were aware somehow of the coming birth of the Savior of the world. The Samaritans were considered odd people and even outcasts and after the religious person had walked by the beaten and robbed man, it was the Samaritan who took care of him and met his needs. Even today it is the lowly who seem to have the truth of what the Gospel is and not the versed and educated in the seminaries. Its time. time to be real. Time to repent and allow God to be God and not a figurehead.


Tropical_Man 68M
6389 posts
9/12/2010 4:50 am

Well Bob, Paul also warned of preaching a different Gospel than he preached and may they be accursed. Benny Hinn does not preach the Gospel of Apostle Paul.Nor do any of those people. Paul also warned of people preaching other Jesus's and basically that is what Rick Warren does. He is full of humanistic New Age. The word states that we have no other God's before him. Rick Warren even promotes a book on Hinduism. He preaches purpose, while the Word of God preaches being filled and lead by the spirit. His book is dfull of twisted scriptures and half truths which is not the truth.

Need I start off on Benny Hinn? False Doctrine and False Prophecies? There is a long list on him. The word of faith people think they can dictate to God and eventually be like little gods. Yeah that is scriptural. The false prophecies of the Kansas City Prophets is long. They would have been stoned in the day. All of these parasites lie and use people. Woe to them.


Tropical_Man 68M
6389 posts
9/12/2010 4:59 am

Romans 14:1 Paul tells us not to dispute over doubtful things. He gives as an example the eating of meat. Paul tells us flat out, don't contend for this. You don't contend over doubtful things. What is the realm he's talking about? It is the realm of the conscience, one's own personal conviction (Romans 14:22-23). If it's left in the realm of personal conscience, it's a doubtful thing. It's not to be disputed over (Romans 14:2-4). But, if someone takes this beyond personal conviction, then we have a problem. If they say something to the effect, "We cannot eat meat. We are not pleasing in the sight of God if we eat meat." as if this is what the Bible teaches, they've gone from a doubtful thing to a demonic teaching (1Timothy 4:1-5). The same issue, if left in the realm of personal conviction, is a doubtful matter not to be disputed over. Yet, if it is taught as a doctrine, this becomes a destructive heresy (1 Timothy 4:1-5), and should be contended against (Jude 3).


Tropical_Man 68M
6389 posts
9/12/2010 5:06 am

do yourself a favor ...go to you tube and run a search "Paula White, Joyce Meyer and Co exposed." very good


Tropical_Man 68M
6389 posts
9/12/2010 5:29 am

Three false prophecies of Benny Hinn

Benny Hinn, Orlando Christian Center, Dec. 31st, 1989

"The Spirit tells me - Fidel Castro will die - in the 90's. Oooh my! Some will try to kill him and they will not succeed. But there will come a change in his physical health, and he will not stay in power, and Cuba will be visited of God."

same day:

"The Lord also tells me to tell you in the mid 90's, about '94-'95, no later than that, God will destroy the homosexual community of America. [audience applauds] But He will not destroy it - with what many minds have thought Him to be, He will destroy it with fire. And many will turn and be saved, and many will rebel and be destroyed."

Benny Hinn, TBN Praise-a-thon, April 2nd, 2000

"The hour is urgent. Many of you have known me for many years. But I am telling you right now, things I haven't said years 'n years 'n years ago. I believe - here this, hear this! I believe, that Jesus, God's Son, is about to appear physically, in meetings and to believers around the world, to wake us up! He appeared after His resurrection and He is about to appear before His second coming! You know a prophetess sent me a word through my wife, right here, and she said 'Tell your husband that Jesus is go'n to physically appear in his meetings.' I am expecting to see, I am telling you that - I feel it's going to happen. I, I, I'm, I'm careful in how I am saying it now, because I know the people in Kenya are listening. I know deep in my soul, something supernatural is going to happen in Nai - in Nairobi Kenya. I feel that. I may very well come back, and you and Jan are coming, to - Paul and Jan are coming to Nairobi with me, but Paul, we may very well come back with footage of Jesus on the platform! You know that the Lord appeared in Romania recently, and there's a video of it? Where the Lord appeared in the back of a church and you see him on video walking down the isle? Yeah! Paul do you remember when I came on TBN years ago and showed you a clip of the Lord appearing in our church in Orlando, on the balcony on the wall? Yeah. You, you remember that? [Paul Crouch] Very well, I saw it! [Benny Hinn] That was '80, 80 something, '86, what - whatever. You know I always wondered why the Lord, why did He do that? Do you know why, now I look back? That was the beginning of the greatest move of God in our church. Because '83, '84, and '85 were horrible years for me, horrible years. Eighty-six the blessings of God began, but they began with a - with this manifestation of the Lord's face on, on the balcony, that stayed for eight weeks. Eight solid weeks! The Lord has done this in the past, but He is about to do it again, now hear this, I am prophesying this! Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is about to appear physically in some churches, and some meetings, and to many of His people, for one reason - to tell you He is about to show up! To Wake Up! Jesus is coming saints! You have held back from the Lord in the past, don't you dare do it now. The day will come you'll stand before Him and give an answer. How dare we not give to God. How dare we hold back."

NO VIDEO. DIDN'T HAPPEN. CAN'T HAPPEN!
And here's why ...

At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect— if that were possible. See, I have told you ahead of time. "So if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the desert,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. (Matthew 24:23-27)

What does the Bible say
about false prophets?

Jesus warned us: Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. (Matthew 7:15)

Jesus again warned us about the end times: For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive even the elect — if that were possible. (Matthew 24:24)

Peter warned the church: But there were false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies … (2 Peter 2:1a)

What are we as Christians supposed to do? Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. (1 John 4:1)

What is a false prophet? I have not sent them,” declares the Lord. “They are prophesying lies in my name. (Jeremiah 27:15a)But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded him to say, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, must be put to death. You may say to yourselves, “How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the Lord” If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the Lord does not take place or come true, that is a message that Lord has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him.” (Deuteronomy 18:20-22)

If a man is found to be a heretic and false prophet, then what?A man that is a heretic after the first and second admonition reject. (Titus 3:10)

What is the end of false prophets? But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars — their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death. (Revelation 21:


Tropical_Man 68M
6389 posts
9/12/2010 5:33 am

google" forgotten word ministries... its all out there


Tropical_Man 68M
6389 posts
9/13/2010 5:00 pm

do yourself a favor and read where it tells of Other Jesus' being preached because that is what they do


Tropical_Man 68M
6389 posts
9/13/2010 5:01 pm

You are no prophet Bob....lol Prophets never need tell anyone they are and you have a poor understanding of the Word if you agree with these people. I could do a whole thing on false propecies of these people.