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Tropical_Man 68M
6573 posts
12/18/2008 4:31 pm
SDA and "Colored"


"Let the colored believers be provided with neat, tasteful houses of worship. Let them be shown that this is not done to exclude them form worshipping with the white people because they are black, but in order that the progress of the tnith may be advanced. Let them understand that this plan is to be followed until the Lord shows us a better way (Testimonies for the Church, Vol. 9, pp. 206-207)."

notgoingback 54M

12/18/2008 5:53 pm

Hi Tropical! When was this written?


Tropical_Man 68M
6389 posts
12/18/2008 9:08 pm

Claudia, a heretcal group that you are part of is born out of this.

Claudia I am not preoccupied with the cult of the sda. I put up their words so people can see what they are and their foundation. Look at your blog, Now that is preoccupation.

You get upset because you can not defend the words of a mentally ill woman. Its exposure, and not a slander as you would like to put it. The truth is painful sometimes.


Tropical_Man 68M
6389 posts
12/19/2008 3:27 am

Hmmmn, name caller since you have nothing to debate with? Is that it. Making up? Typical jargon from a cult member.

This is why I put it up, to expose it for what it is. It is a bible based cult. Just like Jehovah's witnesses. Thank You for helping and proving my case.

A normal debate would not be about an organization. It would be about reasoning with scriptures. Your own writings by Ellen White and your Church leaders expose hw ignorant and twisted the thinking is. It is a case of spin spin spin when faced with the very ignorant writings they themselves put out there. Its that simple.

Many people ha been freed from the SDA Cult. Hopefully you will someday too.

Lord Jesus, please separate them from this doctrine that spits in your face. Hlp them to know that your work is finished and that what you did is complete and all they will ever need to know.


Tropical_Man 68M
6389 posts
12/19/2008 3:30 am

Hi Tropical! When was this written?

a good place to go is google ellen white exposed

The writings of the founders etc are easily seen an exposed as biblicly wrong. All the statements are taken from their own silly writings. A normal person that wanted truth in their life would look at this stuff and and easly see it did not line up scripturally and walk away from it. Cults brainwash people


Tropical_Man 68M
6389 posts
12/19/2008 11:54 am

Claudia. It was separatist any way you cut it. What do you have to say about her false prophecies. her going nack and forth? Here is the thing. My life is about Jesus. Yours is about a brainwashing cult.

HERESY #5: ELLEN WHITE A PROPHETESS

WHAT DOES SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTISM BELIEVE ABOUT ELLEN WHITE?

1. Adventism believes Ellen White exercised the divine gift of prophecy and that she was raised up by God to guide the development of the SDA Movement. "...the church leaders from the first have accepted this heavenly light that God has caused to shine upon their pathway. One reason we have prospered is that we have had this divine guidance, which we have tried to follow faithfully. ... Seventh-day Adventists believe that Mrs. Ellen G. White exercised the true prophetic gift. They believe that God graciously spoke to her in divine revelations, and that through her He sent inspired messages to His church" (Ellen G. White and the S.D.A. Church, p. 2).

2. Adventism believes Ellen White received inspired revelation from God. "Is it not a solemn thought that the Spirit of Prophecy books on the shelves of your home contain the revelations of God?" (Prophetic Guidance, Test Questions Sheet for Lesson 4). "The divine inspiration [of the Bible and of the writings of White] is the same in both cases. But the product given by inspiration in each case is to serve its distinct purpose or function. ... The Holy Spirit that inspired Moses, Paul, and John, also inspired Sister White. The inspiration of the prophets is one thing" (The Spirit of Prophecy Treasure Chest, p. 30). "In the providence of God, Ellen G. White was given the role of prophetic messenger to the Advent people. The visions given to her at night were prophetic dreams, divinely inspired and of similar nature to those that came to the prophets of old" (Ibid., p. 29).

3. Adventism believes Ellen White was an inspired commentator. "Ellen White, as an inspired commentator, was instructed to say ... In her published writings are to be found thousands of such comments on the Holy Scriptures. Her writings are regarded by thousands as an inspired commentary. While Ellen Harmon was called to her work as a mere youth in her teens, she was commanded by her Saviour: ‘Exhort from the word. I will make My word open to you. It shall not be as a strange language. In the true eloquence of simplicity with voice and pen, the messages that I give shall be heard from one who has never learned in the schools. My Spirit and My power shall be with you.’ There is an inexhaustible treasure of exhibits to illustrate the function of God’s modern messenger as an inspired commentator on the Bible (Ellen G. White and the S.D.A. Church, pp. 37-39).

4. Adventism believes Ellen White’s writings are immortal and invincible. "She wrote in 1906 ... He instructed me ... Never deviate from the truth under any circumstances. Give the light I shall give you. The messages for these last days shall be written in books, and shall stand immortalized..." (Prophetic Guidance, Lesson 13, p. 50).

5. Adventism believes Ellen White’s writings are for universal and timeless application. "Through the last half of Mrs. White’s life, as she delineated the great controversy story in detail in the five volumes of the Conflict of the Ages series, she was ever mindful that she was writing for the world as well as for the church" (Prophetic Guidance, Lesson 13, p. 50). "‘We recognize that the principles set forth in the Spirit of Prophecy writings do not change with the passage of the years, that time and trial have not made void the instruction given,’ and ‘the instruction that was given in the early days of the message is to be held as safe instruction to follow in these its closing days’" (Treasure Chest, p. 125).

6. Adventism believes Ellen White is the lesser light witnessing to the greater light. "Ellen White declared, ‘Little heed is given to the Bible, and the Lord has given a lesser light to lead men and women to the greater light’ (Colporteur Ministry, p. 125). ...So it is with the Bible and the Spirit of Prophecy" (The Spirit of Prophecy Treasure Chest, p. 30).

7. Adventism believes Ellen White’s writings were "a telescope which enlarges the vision of God’s plan." "The Ellen G. White books have been likened also to a telescope which greatly enlarges the vision of God’s plans as revealed in His word. A telescope does not put more stars in the sky, but merely helps us see more clearly those that are already there" (Ellen G. White and the S.D.A. Church, p. 34).


Tom45
(Tom )
68M

1/15/2009 1:34 pm

    Quoting  :

I am a little disappointed in you. Your past public apology doesn't reflect your present comments.

I am sorry, if Claudia is going to flood the blogs with SDA's views, she needs to explain them.

What say you?


You shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free.


Tom45
(Tom )
68M

1/15/2009 1:40 pm

    Quoting Claudia_T:
    get off the internet and go read what SDAs actually DO believe..
    of course though, even if SDAs show you 100 bible verses about keeping the commandments you'd still go ---DUH... must mean we dont have to!

    Im sick of having to try to be "nice" to you.
Claudia, this is the issue you seem to keep avoiding.

The 'Commandments of God' may not be referring to the 10 Commandments.


You shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free.


Tropical_Man 68M
6389 posts
1/16/2009 4:48 am

Claudia has no clue. I coulsd show her verses of annimal sacrifices but context is everything.Its what brainwashed people do Tom