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What kind of atrocious post is this? Sickening Poster:Grim Death name of post:Bob Vandiver, clearwatermail, kiss your stuff goodbye. and here is the content:You were repeatedly requested to discontinue your campaign of terror against my friends, Mia and Ken, and for some reason your ego didn't allow you to do that. You feel threatened and slighted because you didn't get what you wanted. Your sick obsession has been your downfall. Therefore, your cell phone and laptop have been donated to the local womens' shelter, fitting because you hate women and abuse them to the extent that you do. Your ex-wives will attest to that, not to mention many women on BC who have harrassment suits against you. Your cell phone bill money and damage deposit money have also been donated, in your name, to same. I'm sure you'll receive a nice card in the mail thanking you for your . Let this be a lesson to you. Not that you're smart enough to figure it out but one can always hope. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Reign of terror? A person helps someone out that has extended many emails and many phone conversations where they called the man they had moved to be with a total psycho? A man helps this person move in fear for their well being. He helps her get into a condo with his money. He gives her his laptop to use while she is in Florida so she can be in contact with people here. She was thrilled at his kindness. I know. I heard her say it personally. He even let her use his car while he was at work. He took her and another BCer to dinner. Yeah he is a monster. Then she has the man she travelled 1500 miles to get away from come and visit. From the point he got there, communication with the people that had helped her, communication suddenly ended to a good degree. Some people totally pulled away. Others have confided in me some pretty bad stuff. Others have saved many emails of the berations towards the new spouce. I have talked on the phone with him before she left on her behalf regarding money they had spent on furniture for him. Said they needed the money to come south. I was informed by him that he just wanted her out of the house and went on to complain about annimals etc. I just tried to help smooth things over. We concluded with him saying he would do it. Later I was told he did. Good for him. My last conversation was with her. It was one of trying to find help for her. Talking of anullment and undecided if going back north. They were concerned everything would get physical. If thats all I had, it would be my word against theirs. Instead I have voice messages, IM's and emails. All backing up my story here. i may place it all up on You Tube so the world can see. Its there. But this isnt even about me. Its about the character assasination of a man who put his money where his mouth is and was not contacted when he was just trying to find out what was going on and if need be just get his money and his laptop, cell phone. Now he is made out to be a bad guy when all he wants is what is rightfully his? The evidence stands strongly in the good samaritans corner. Anyone that has stood up and said, yeah this is really wrong is being lambasted by fake id's and goofballs who know nothing. I will soon put it all together so the world can see it just to save face of the man being cheated. What is Christian about these actions? I do not have anything against the married couple. These actions however are atrocious. In each instance they are trying to have a go-between. Why? |
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Claudia, She talked to me and imed me on the 4th asking for help. I asked if she had been struck. She said not yet and she asked me to get a BC members phone number so she could get their help. I asked questions regarding if she was in danger. She had me call her when he was out getting food. All of that I do not care about anymore. What I care about is Bob being trashed and him being out about 3000 according to him.
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I had to delete her drivel.
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9/19/2008 7:45 pm |
My momma who was a very wise woman told me to never hang my dirty laundry out in public. I think this is very good advice! This is not the place for all this ugliness. We are here to point people to Christ. Not all people who come here are christians. What is this showing them? Is this showing them Jesus? I think not! Jesus is all about love. The word says to love your enemies, pray for those who persecute you and bless those who hate you. Do you think God is not big enough to take care of His own? Dennis, I really am speaking from my heart. This has got to stop! Let go and let God! Lord, keep one hand on my shoulder and one hand over my mouth!
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9/19/2008 7:55 pm |
Thanks for posting this  Life is an adventure.
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Dennis I appreciate you standing strong for Bob. If someone was doing this to you...I am sure you would feel devastated and appreciate the Christian love extended. I feel you are doing this in this case. Thank you, Sheri (¯`•♥•´¯) ¤`•.♥.•´ ¤ (¯`•♥•´¯)
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Mom T, I dont even know anything about that, but if I did I would have said something.I am sorry no one did. Bekka I am not sure where you are coming from this. There has been one side totally slandering people that nce tried to help. iT GOES BEYOND slander in one case and that is grand theft. Grand theft to the point that the victim is being taunted about it. We need to ignore that? You are welcome independence We are all saddened, and we are all sad that everyone that was a real friend has been slandered.The actions taken bring questions of the mental state.
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9/20/2008 6:04 am |
Where I'm coming from Dennis is this, I don't believe a public, open forum is the place for all this. All this stuff should be given to God and let Him take care of it or handled in private. The God I serve is a big God! He is able and willing to fight all our battles however small or big. I'm concerned for the souls who come here looking for Jesus and find all this back biting and discontent. And please tell me something if you will. What has all this accomplished? What good has it done anyone? What purpose has it served? And I'm speaking to all involved! All I can see it has done is cause discord among the brethren. And we all know what the word says about that...don't we. I love everyone here and my heart is grieved over all this. Love and Hugs Lord, keep one hand on my shoulder and one hand over my mouth!
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Bekka we aren't the ones making this a public issue. If you knew what she personally told me you would have understood my concerns for her well being. Nomatter what was first said, the theft is the issue. Now all I did was copy and paste what slanderous lies this person is perpetrating. It was already on here. I have personally spoken to many people and all the stories tie together. I would not have said anything had not all these slanderous accusation had not come to fruition. Another words, you are speaking to the wrong party. Someone(she) was on here slandering many people. You notice I did not address what she said regarding me. But I wont have my friends slandered on here like they hae been by these people as well as the Rev Jim Beam who quite frankly owes a lot of people a huge apology. Personally I do not want it, and do not need it. Each person who has befriended this lady has been burnt to a degree. Me, I was just standing up for her well being based on our conversations, email and yahoo im's the day after they were married. Still don't know if the license was filed to complete it and make it legal. I don't care. I wouldn't grieve over it. There is a simple answer. Give the money and stuff back and stop lying and slandering good people who cared and care.
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Bekka it is God's goodness and kindness that draws a person to begin with. This place is nota place a person is going to come to and be saved.
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9/20/2008 7:29 am |
I am right there with you Dennis. Is this the same person I saw commenting on Pete's blog. Who is it and let me to them. I trying to find then but the profile is gone or turned off. I would like to chime in...I could do it in privite,,,everyone seems to be in an up-roar! Are they creating accounts because they were banned on another? Truth is Black and White Paula Marie
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I had to ban them because it isnt a conversation. Sadly people know who it is. Yes it needs to stop. Love Ya Paula
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What hurts me the most is that at some time in the future they will likely be greeted with open arms back on the blogs. I have seen it happen many times. Unless there is a change in heart apologies mean nothing. Blogers need to be aware of the truth so they can use good Christian discernment in choosing whom they will interact with socially or via internet on the blogs. Thanks for sharing truth, Dennis. GBY, Sheri (¯`•♥•´¯) ¤`•.♥.•´ ¤ (¯`•♥•´¯)
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Thanks Lynne  Sheri you are absolutely right. Its the sad truth
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