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Tropical_Man 68M
6573 posts
8/25/2008 12:26 pm
Azusa Street was another Lakeland, Brownsville and Toronto.


For a long time Azusa Street was the staple of pentecostalism world wide even. It was looked upon favorably. No one in the Pentecostal Circles questioned it, because it was their starting place of..... in the last days scriptures. Well its been over 100 years since the Pentecostal Movement started.

In recent times it was Toronto, and the fallout from what happened there left people, pastors running it eventually repenting and admitting that i was not good.

Same with Brownsville as financial improprieties came forth as well as misrepresentations of who the speakers were. It too was a mockery unfortunately. I knew plenty of people that went there.

The Lakeland fallout is particularly unsettling as many testify of Todd Bentleys drunken escapades in local lakeland bars as well as his supposed extra marital affair. Some say he did, some say he did not. It is a fact he had one admittedly 2 1/2 years ago.

To me its just all sad. Even sadder than what went on at Lakeland was the endorsements he received from all these self appointed prophets, and how they distanced themselves from him afterwords. You would think a real prophet would have some discernment in the first place. Yes a real prophet would. Thus, they are not.

I did some research on Azusa too. Sadly, but not surprisingly there is alto of the same stuff going on back then. One of the co founders was heavy into the KKK and a few years later he left and renounced what had happened at Azusa. The same issues of validity of claims was greatly lacking as well. So does God really act or show up at these places?

That is a good question isn't it? Personally I am not afraid of the answer. I do know if it does not line up with Gods word, I am not accepting it just based on someones "experience"

Many so called claims and experiences of Lakeland are turning into embarrassments sadly.


imadeit3 61F

8/25/2008 7:12 pm

It's amazing that every denomination has issues. Man made...go figure...we are all born in sin.
Love you Dennis...
From your Pentecostal friend!

Truth is Black and White
Paula Marie


chucklegirl 61F

8/25/2008 9:09 pm

I'm sorry but I keep reading your posts about Lakeland or the people there more importantly Todd, so let me ask you this, do you know him personally? If not why do you keep putting stuff in here that is gossip? Why are you judging your brother in Christ? Did you go to any of those meetings? Were you at Azusa, Brownsville or Toronto? If not how can you comment on it? It would be gossip unless you heard it from the person directly or you were there? Again, sorry i don't mean this in a bad way!


Louisiana 57F
1177 posts
8/25/2008 10:12 pm

Yep I find it very sad Dennis, and unfortunately every church and denomination has its problems in these areas. I am so dissolusioned with church and the 'flakeyness' of christians that it would be easier to not be a part of it at all! There are only a core group of 'true christians' who attend churches I believe. Yet I still feel led to belong to a fellowship and worship my God that way. What others do or do not do is beyond my control and I have to somehow leave it in God's hands. Bless you brother

The body of Christ is like a patchwork quilt! All stitched together with God's love.


Tropical_Man 68M
6389 posts
8/26/2008 5:25 am

Dennis, You mention the KKK in this article. Did you know that the Lighthouse: Founders of the Southern Baptist Convention were all associated with the KKK here in the south? The Southern Baptists split from the American Baptist association because the southern's did not agree with the freeing of slaves during the cival war. They were all liberals. Many of today's Southern Baptists hide behind their church doctrine but are also liberals and if it were up to most of them we would go back to slavery. Very sad...I know a lot of people that read this will probably not agree with me, but look it up. This is why you and I would not make good Southern Baptists, we are too conservative!!! Hoping Buster arrives home soon...hugs!

The democratic party was formed out of the same people and the KKK and people dont seem to realize this either


Tropical_Man 68M
6389 posts
8/26/2008 5:26 am

Paula: It's amazing that every denomination has issues. Man made...go figure...we are all born in sin.
Love you Dennis...
From your Pentecostal friend!


I agree and that is why I am for the home churches


Tropical_Man 68M
6389 posts
8/26/2008 5:29 am

Chuckle: I'm sorry but I keep reading your posts about Lakeland or the people there more importantly Todd, so let me ask you this, do you know him personally? If not why do you keep putting stuff in here that is gossip? Why are you judging your brother in Christ? Did you go to any of those meetings? Were you at Azusa, Brownsville or Toronto? If not how can you comment on it? It would be gossip unless you heard it from the person directly or you were there? Again, sorry i don't mean this in a bad way!

I know people that know him. I also have done eons of research on him. Enough to conclude I do not believe he is saved. We are called to test the spirits and in the test I do not believe he is saved. He is caught in many lies and it is important to put that stuff out there.


Tropical_Man 68M
6389 posts
8/26/2008 5:31 am

Lou:Yep I find it very sad Dennis, and unfortunately every church and denomination has its problems in these areas. I am so dissolusioned with church and the 'flakeyness' of christians that it would be easier to not be a part of it at all! There are only a core group of 'true christians' who attend churches I believe. Yet I still feel led to belong to a fellowship and worship my God that way. What others do or do not do is beyond my control and I have to somehow leave it in God's hands. Bless you brother

Hi Lou, I believe it is very important to make light of deceptions. Thats what I believe he has called me personally to do.


rememberme08 49M
9 posts
8/26/2008 5:44 am

Hi, like your blog. Good to see some good stuff on things happening in different places. Take care


Tropical_Man 68M
6389 posts
8/26/2008 6:16 am

rememberme08: Hi, like your blog. Good to see some good stuff on things happening in different places. Take care

Thank You and thank you for stopping by. I hope that the experiences you have here at BC Blogs are good ones

Dennis


NJBeliever 48M

8/26/2008 3:39 pm

God bless brother. It's not about who was in the KKK, or who slept with who. It's about your theology. If a "pastor" or so-called "Prophet" i unbiblical I really don't care about their denomination. They are not speaking the true Gospel. A message has to be Biblically based to have any real significance. All the signs and wonders don't make a sermon holy or of God.

I have watched Bentley's 3 hour program on GODTV many times. I am not speaking from a few clips or what I've heard. Where is the biblical defense of Bentley? Why is it that no one here can ever cite the scriptures he discusses or what is his actual theology is?


Tropical_Man 68M
6389 posts
8/26/2008 6:52 pm

He is a mystic