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Tropical_Man 68M
6573 posts
8/18/2008 6:51 pm
Men are called to be Leaders and protectors


That is a huge responsibility. Bigger than we realize.

Clay had a blog on Todd bentley today. In it he said that he had no real thought on it. Clay is a very well meaning and good brother. He really is.

But I will say this, Clay and all of us men. If we are not prepared to make the tough call in life then we will never be good husband material. If we are not out looking to see snares in life and deceivers, then we are not prepared to lead.

Do the women have to do everything? If Adam would have been a good leader and was doing what God had told him to never do, the deal with the tree of knowledge would never have happened. It is a requirement to know what you believe and why you believe it!

Howe can you lead in your home? How can you protect your wife and if you do not determine what is right and wrong!


NeedGodlyleader 63F
502 posts
8/18/2008 7:55 pm

I TOTALLY AGREE BUT, My ex husband always thought leading meant CONTROLLING. He would not even allow me to pray over meals. HE WAS suppose to DO IT ALL. His attitude on some things used to make me so angry. I LOVE having a man to protect and LEAD my home BUT, some men don't know how to do this without pushing or shoving women around and making them feel like, their opinions DON'T matter. I just finished reading Ephesians myself and truly BELIEVE men NEED to study this in a small group so, they all understand one another and the correct WAY to LEAD your wife and children. I BELIEVE it is by the way you LOVE THEM, NOT by FORCE. My PRAYER is to find such a man. They are FEW and FAR between. Sorry guys, NOT KNOCKING you, I just believe we could all learn and grow but, you have to have an open heart.


Tropical_Man 68M
6389 posts
8/18/2008 8:27 pm

Wen:Amen, preach it, brother! It is HUGE! All part of that Proverbs 31 thing . . . . she can't BE it, without the leader properly leading!!

Thank You Wen and as always you are a blessing and an inspiration


Tropical_Man 68M
6389 posts
8/18/2008 8:29 pm

Tonya TOTALLY AGREE BUT, My ex husband always thought leading meant CONTROLLING. He would not even allow me to pray over meals. HE WAS suppose to DO IT ALL. His attitude on some things used to make me so angry. I LOVE having a man to protect and LEAD my home BUT, some men don't know how to do this without pushing or shoving women around and making them feel like, their opinions DON'T matter. I just finished reading Ephesians myself and truly BELIEVE men NEED to study this in a small group so, they all understand one another and the correct WAY to LEAD your wife and children. I BELIEVE it is by the way you LOVE THEM, NOT by FORCE. My PRAYER is to find such a man. They are FEW and FAR between. Sorry guys, NOT KNOCKING you, I just believe we could all learn and grow but, you have to have an open heart.

Very good points Tonya. We are supposed to be partners in a mutual relationship that helps us both be who the Lord has for us.


Tropical_Man 68M
6389 posts
8/18/2008 8:51 pm

Pam: Thank you Dennis for this post. What is sad is that only the women are reading/viewing your posts and not the ones that need to read it, the men.
Let me first say that women here in America do not know how to show Respect to men so that they can totally lead.
Lets just start with contacting men here on BC for an example.
If a woman wants a man to be given the ability to lead a home, let his start by being the leader in the dating scene. Let him contact her, not her contact him.
Bless you,
Dennis


Thank You Pam and you are 100% right. Very few men want to face up and realize why they failed in the past. They want to go on like nothing was their fault.


Tropical_Man 68M
6389 posts
8/18/2008 9:04 pm

Susan:Yep - all we women are weighing in and we're all echoing you with a big AMEN!!! I want a man who leads so I have someone to respect and honor.

Susan, the real sad part for me is that very few men ever respond to things that makes them take a look at what they need to step up and be. I have written several posts on this stuff.


Hidden_Treasure 66F

8/19/2008 2:32 am

Dennis isnt going to get a resounding anything from me.

Personally, I think its absolutely inconsiderate that you would try to paint some man like Clay out to be "not good husband material" because he disagrees with you on something.

I know for a fact Dennis that you yourself are completely deceived about some things yourself, but I cannot imagine making a post like this and using that to start a post insinuating you wouldnt be a good husband because of it.

YES I fully agree that if someone has a problem with discernment then they may not be a good husband. But you couldve just said that and left it at that. You didnt have to bring Clay's name into it this way.

It just reminds me of the way that you treat me as well. Its like you will do ANYTHING to paint someone out to be a bad person. Its just flat out WRONG.

Same with Jean, reallysaved. I disagree with her in many ways but I think its really distasteful the way that you comment upon her all the time.

So I dont care if as usual Im opposite of everybody else here, I just think its rude to do this to Clay.

and I dont even agree with Clay half the time.

Jn:14:15: If ye love me, keep my commandments. --Jesus.


Hidden_Treasure 66F

8/19/2008 2:33 am

I think it would probably be a good rule for me to make to just completely stay away from Dennis' posts and stop reading them altogether.

Jn:14:15: If ye love me, keep my commandments. --Jesus.


Tropical_Man 68M
6389 posts
8/19/2008 4:11 am

Claudia if you read what I said once in awhile instead of jumping to conclusions and pasting SDA garbage all over the place, then just maybe you might have a clear mind.

We arent just all marriage material. I have said many times in the past that all of us need to look at what we want out of life and what we represent within ourselves.

If you think its bad that people do not search for truth then that is a very sad state of affairs.

Claudia, mist Christians do not consider SDA Christian at all. That isnt what this post is about. It is about the fact that if you are not watching out for what is right and wrong, and are all accepting, how can you lead? You cant. You are the only one that saw this as an attack. Why?

Think about it. All you posts on is SDA garbage. I have shown facts from their writings that are totally against the scriptures. Totally. Yet you ignore that just like any cultist. I just let it go.

I havent painted Clay out to be a bad person. I said Clay and all of us need to be responsible if we really want to have a family. Thast what I said Claudia


Tropical_Man 68M
6389 posts
8/19/2008 6:13 am

amen and it is only common sense Mia!


Tropical_Man 68M
6389 posts
8/19/2008 7:43 am

No ones against you Claudia. I allow you to have your say. I dont ban you. I care what happens to you.

Good post Mia


NeedGodlyleader 63F
502 posts
8/19/2008 10:25 am

AMEN, Pamela. Dennis only posts what needs to be said. I don't know Claudia either but, if you have issues with Dennis PLEASE do NOT attack him here. Quit reading his posts. Go on with your life. Better yet, Pray about your attitude on this site.


Tropical_Man 68M
6389 posts
8/19/2008 6:28 pm

Looking forward to the party saturday. Pam might come as well Tonya! We shall see.