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Tropical_Man 68M
6573 posts
8/14/2008 4:45 am
Lakeland 'evangelist" Todd Bentley divorcing


This is sad news, and we should be in prayer for him. It is no fun to see this happen or have to report on people that are misrepresenting God. Here is the story:
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LIFE AFTER LAKELAND: Sorting Out the Confusion-by J. Lee Grady.

Todd Bentley’s announcement that his marriage is ending has thrown our movement into a tailspin–and questions need to be answered. It was not supposed to end like this. Evangelist Todd Bentley had heralded the Lakeland revival as the greatest Pentecostal outpouring since Azusa Street.

From his stage in a gigantic tent in Florida, Bentley preached to thousands, bringing many of them to the stage for prayer. Many claimed to be healed of deafness, blindness, heart problems, depression and dozens of other conditions in the Lakeland services, which ran for more than 100 consecutive nights.

Bentley announced confidently that dozens of people had been raised from the dead during the revival. But this week, a few days after the Canadian preacher announced the end of his visits to Lakeland, he told his staff that his marriage is ending. Without blaming the pace of the revival for Bentley’s personal problems, his board released a public statement saying that he and his wife, Shonnah, are separating. The news shocked Bentley’s adoring fans and saddened those who have questioned his credibility since the Lakeland movement erupted in early April.

I’m sad. I’m disappointed. And I’m angry. Here are few of my many, many questions about this fiasco: Why did so many people flock to Lakeland from around the world to rally behind an evangelist who had serious credibility issues from the beginning?

To put it bluntly, we’re just plain gullible. From the first week of the Lakeland revival, many discerning Christians raised questions about Bentley’s beliefs and practices. They felt uneasy when he said he talked to an angel in his hotelroom. They sensed something amiss when he wore a T-shirt with a skeleton on it.

They wondered why a man of God would cover himself with tattoos. They were horrified when they heard him describe how he tackled a man and knocked his tooth out during prayer. But among those who jumped on the Lakeland bandwagon, discernment was discouraged. They were expected to swallow and follow.

The message was clear: “This is God. Don’t question.”So before we could all say, “Sheeka Boomba” (as Bentley often prayed from his pulpit), many people went home, prayed for people and shoved them to the floor with reckless abandon, Bentley-style.

I blame this lack of discernment, partly, on raw zeal for God. We’re spiritual hungry–which can be a good thing. But sometimes, hungry people will eat anything. Many of us would rather watch a noisy demonstration of miracles, signs and wonders than have a quiet Bible study. Yet we are faced today with the sad reality that our untempered zeal is a sign ofimmaturity.

Our adolescent craving for the wild and crazy makes us do stupid things. It’s way past time for us to grow up. Why didn’t anyone in Lakeland denounce the favorable comments Bentley made about William Branham? This one baffles me.

Branham embraced horrible deception near the end of his ministry... and his strange doctrines are still embraced by a cultlike following today... Why didn’t anyone correct this error from the pulpit? Godly leaders are supposed to protect the sheep from heresy, not spoon feed deception to them. Only God knows how far this poison traveled from Lakeland to take root elsewhere.

May God forgive us for allowing His Word to be so flippantly contaminated. A prominent Pentecostal evangelist called me this week after Bentley’s news hit the fan. He said to me: “I’m now convinced that a large segment of the charismatic church will follow the anti-Christ when he shows up because they have no discernment.” Ouch.

Hopefully we’ll learn our lesson this time and apply the necessary caution when an imposter shows up. Why did God TV tell people that “any criticism of Todd Bentley is demonic”? This ridiculous statement was actually made on one of God TV’s pre-shows.

In fact, the network’s hosts also warned listeners that if they listened to criticism of Bentley, they could lose their healings. This is cultic manipulation at its worst. The Bible tells us that the Bereans were noble believers because they studied the Scriptures daily “to see whether these things were so” (Acts 17:11, NAS.

Yet in the case of Lakeland, honest intellectual inquiry was viewed as a sign of weakness. People were expected to jump first and then open their eyes. Just because we believe in the power of the Holy Spirit does not mean we check our brains at the church door.

We are commanded to test the spirits. Jesus wants us to love Him with our hearts and our minds. Because of the Lakeland scandal, there may be large numbers of people who feel they’ve been burned by Bentley. Some may give up on church and join the growing ranks of bitter, disenfranchised Christians. Others may suffer total spiritual shipwreck.

This could have been avoided if leaders had been more vocal about their objections and urged people to evaluate spiritual experiences through the filter of God’s Word. Why did a group of respected ministers lay hands on Bentley on June 23 and publicly ordain him? Did they know of his personal problems? This controversial ceremony was organized by Peter Wagner, who felt that one of Bentley’s greatest needs was proper spiritual covering

. He asked California pastors Che Ahn and Bill Johnson, along with Canadian pastor John Arnott, to lay hands on Bentleyand bring him under their care. Bentley certainly needs such covering. No one in ministry today should be out on their own, living in isolation without checks, balances and wise counsel.

It was commendable that Wagnerreached out to Bentley and that Bentley acknowledged his need for spiritual fathers by agreeing to submit to the process. The question remains, however, whether it was wise to commendBentley during a televised commissioning service that at times seemed more like a king’s coronation.

In hindsight, we can all see that it would have been better to take Bentley into a back room and talk about his personal issues. The Bible tells us that ordination of a minister is a sober responsibility.

Paul wrote: “Do not lay hands upon anyone too hastily and thereby share responsibility for the sins of others”(1 Tim. 5:22).

We might be tempted to rush the process, but the apostle warned against fast-tracking ordination–and he said that those who commission a minister who is not ready for the job will bear some of the blame for his failures. I trust that Wagner, Ahn, Johnson and Arnott didn’t know of Bentley’s problems before they ordained him.

I am sure they are saddened by the events of this week and are reaching out toBentley and his wife to promote healing and restoration. But I believe that they, along with Bentley and the owners of God TV, owe the body of Christ a forthright, public apology for thrusting Bentley’s ministry into the spotlight prematurely. (Perhaps such an apology should be aired on God TV.)

Can anything good come out of this? That depends on how people respond. If the men assigned to oversee Bentley offer loving but firm correction, and if Bentley responds humbly to the process by stepping out of ministry for aseason of rehabilitation, we could witness a healthy case of church discipline play out the way it is supposed to.

If all those who were so eager to promote Bentley now rush just as fast to repent fortheir errors in judgment, then the rest of us could breathe a huge sigh of relief–and the credibility of our movement could be restored.

I still believe that God desires to visit our nation in supernatural power. I know He wants to heal multitudes, and I will continue praying for a healing revival to sweep across the United States.But we must contend for the genuine, not an imitation. True revival will be accompanied by brokenness, humility, reverence and repentance–not the arrogance, showmanship and empty hype that often was on display in Lakeland.

We are weathering an unprecedented season of moral failure and spiritual compromise in our nation today. I urge everyone in the charismatic world to pray for Bentley; his wife, Shonnah; his three young ; Bentley’s ministry staff; and the men and women who serve as his counselors and advisers. Let’s pray that God will turn this embarrassing debacle into an opportunity for miraculous restoration.


Rev Dan Sutton

Rebekka_returns 77F

8/14/2008 5:54 am

"We are commanded to test the spirits. Jesus wants us to love Him with our hearts and our minds. Because of the Lakeland scandal, there may be large numbers of people who feel they’ve been burned by Bentley. Some may give up on church and join the growing ranks of bitter, disenfranchised Christians. Others may suffer total spiritual shipwreck."

It is these I pray for, the innocent.
May the Good Shepherd heal their wounded hearts and spirits.

Thanks for sharing.


Lord, keep one hand on my shoulder and one hand over my mouth!


Tropical_Man 68M
6389 posts
8/14/2008 6:38 am

Bekka said:"We are commanded to test the spirits. Jesus wants us to love Him with our hearts and our minds. Because of the Lakeland scandal, there may be large numbers of people who feel they’ve been burned by Bentley. Some may give up on church and join the growing ranks of bitter, disenfranchised Christians. Others may suffer total spiritual shipwreck."

It is these I pray for, the innocent.
May the Good Shepherd heal their wounded hearts and spirits.

Thanks for sharing.


I think you perfectly covered it Bekka!


Tropical_Man 68M
6389 posts
8/14/2008 6:39 am

Mia said: No surprise here. It's the natural progression of the fruits of a sinful life. God cannot and will not bless charletans & liars & false prophets, He will shut them down. I'm with Rebekka in the sense that we need to pray for the innocents, big time. May God reveal Himself to them and let them know who He really is and how they can be healed from this incredibly sickening travesty.

I agree 100% Mia


AlanB2 68M

8/14/2008 7:06 am

    Quoting Rebekka_returns:
    "We are commanded to test the spirits. Jesus wants us to love Him with our hearts and our minds. Because of the Lakeland scandal, there may be large numbers of people who feel they’ve been burned by Bentley. Some may give up on church and join the growing ranks of bitter, disenfranchised Christians. Others may suffer total spiritual shipwreck."

    It is these I pray for, the innocent.
    May the Good Shepherd heal their wounded hearts and spirits.

    Thanks for sharing.

I think what bothers me most is all the Christians who become disenchanted so easily...They should know better....some learn from it, some dont. Which leads to us praying more for all involved...GOD BLESS them all!



‘HE will rule them with an iron scepter.’... He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty.... On HIS robe and on HIS thigh HE has this name written:... KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS."


Tropical_Man 68M
6389 posts
8/14/2008 7:32 am

Alan said: I think what bothers me most is all the Christians who become disenchanted so easily...They should know better....some learn from it, some dont. Which leads to us praying more for all involved...GOD BLESS them all!

Very good point Alan. I dont know why, I just have discernment for this stuff. I knew something was up even before I looked into it. The more I looked into the roots, the worse it became. The worse part is, Jean trying to get me to check out something she was fooled by, kinda cost us a friendship for the time being.

God is bigger than that though. Takes time, and I know some day she will see it for what it is.


Azar7707 53F

8/14/2008 7:36 am

Dennis,
I am genuinely grateful for this very important information. I had recently read some positive comments about the Bentley meeting in a Christian bulletin and the two articles you've posted have truly helped me not to get sucked into lies and deception.

In the meantime we wait we hope we pray and look toward the true movement of the Lord!
Come Lord Jesus.

Thanks,
Jenny/Azar7707


Tropical_Man 68M
6389 posts
8/14/2008 7:49 am

Thanks Jenny and you are welcome. Unfortunately it goes deeper into the o called apostolic group he is with.
Blessings


chucklegirl 61F

8/14/2008 9:23 am

Luke 21:8 And he said:"take heed that you not be deceived. For many will come in My name, saying "I am He", and "The time has drawn near", Therefore do not go after them.

I give you that scripture as reference, Jesus was saying many people will come in his name, Todd Bentley never said he was Jesus. Look at the disciples the ones that Jesus choose to be with him, they came from many walks of life and were they not persecuted? Look at what is now happening because we as Christians are judging, I thought only God could do that? If you do not understand something why say false things unless you personally know the person and God told you?

These are just some thoughts for everyone to ponder! We are suppose to uplift our brothers and sisters, should we not be praying for reconciliation or continue to bad mouth something that maybe gossip? How can we comment on anything if we haven't actually had the experience? Who is really winning in this situation?


Sweethoney2007 64F
6565 posts
8/14/2008 9:38 am

I dont know if you were following that blog posted about LAKELAND Dennis, but I was chatting with her and posting on Bentley. After I
posted on Peter Wagner who is now backing out of endorseing Bentley, she deleted her post...can find it...

Did you read that article?? Want me to send it to you
?

Are you feeling better today???

Isaiah 42:8 " I am the Lord; that is my name! And My glory I will not give to another, nor My praise to graven images."


Tropical_Man 68M
6389 posts
8/14/2008 9:47 am

Thanks Rod and Chuckle, nice points too Chuckle


chocnroses 69F
2405 posts
8/14/2008 3:40 pm

I received an email from Rory and Wendy who started the God Channel and they announced the separation and asked us to pray for them, that's what I'll be doing! GBU!


Tropical_Man 68M
6389 posts
8/14/2008 4:30 pm

Ror and Wendy are a huge mess in themselves in my opinion. Christianity would be better served without the Garbage they freely put on.

Sure Kim, I didnt see your response. It must have went up at the same time. Wagner is not any better and I am sure you know that.

If anyone followed the Toronto and Brownsville thing, same organization of people were involved and a lot of unfortunate lies and misrepresentations took place then too.


Sweethoney2007 64F
6565 posts
8/14/2008 6:48 pm

Yes, Many of the Abbotsford, Mission people came from Pat Cocking, alias Patricia King, Christian Services ministry, and a Toronto Vineyard Pastor Mary Audrey, both trained by Mary Goddard Christian services ministries. I also was trained in much of that ministries teaching. I know Pat personally. We never liked each other. I always had my suspicions about her. I discerned a wrong motive in her. she always desired power in the gifts. She came of occult and never truly broke from it I believe. Now she says that she rides around in the heavenlies in Gods Chariot. Bentley was trained by Pat King and fresh fire started from her ministry as a youth ministry. Both were novices who rose to notoriety. One time Pat asked me..are you pregnant? I said no because I did not think that I was. Ended up that I was pregnant. For no reason whatsoever God tells someone my private business? That is more like fortune telling in my opinion.

I watched her over the years in many different scandal situations. (wont get into it) She was released into ministry by a pastor who was in adultery with someone in his church, ministering like nothing was wrong. As long as you were a loyal groupie of Pats you went some where in ministry. I would not submit to her and so I went another path. While she grew to claim I spent my years in obscurity preaching to the street people on the skids.

I am glad that I did not get into that stuff..always had my doubts because of the manifestations that were demonic in nature...(barking like dogs, ) I was always led by God since a baby Christian to read and study the word. Not that I have not had supernatural experience because I have had many over the years but all were scriptural and had a specific purpose. the holy Spirit does not conflict with his word!!! Ever!!!!


Isaiah 42:8 " I am the Lord; that is my name! And My glory I will not give to another, nor My praise to graven images."


Tropical_Man 68M
6389 posts
8/14/2008 7:03 pm

Wow Kim!That is one of the best things I have ever heard you say. I am extremely impressed!


Louisiana 57F
1177 posts
8/14/2008 9:00 pm

Sad regardless of who he is or what he pertained to be. God hates divorce, and it is still devestating.

The body of Christ is like a patchwork quilt! All stitched together with God's love.


Tropical_Man 68M
6389 posts
8/15/2008 3:43 am

yep
God hates divorce because of wht it does to the people he loves.


Tropical_Man 68M
6389 posts
8/15/2008 6:36 am

I thought so too