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Tropical_Man 68M
6573 posts
8/5/2008 8:38 am
why do you think the world is confused by Christians?


I have my opinion. Some people will say it is our lack of love for each other. Some will say that the bible contradicts itself. Others may maintain that it is too centralized and that God is bigger, he is in everything.

My thoughts to them is this. God is specific in who he says he is.He says he is a Spirit being and in order for us to worship him, we must worship him in Spirit and truth. He says he is in the form of Father, and Holy Spirit.

He also says that there is a counterfit to who he is and what he does. Have you ever held a counterfit $20. You probably have and did not even know it. Counterfit means in likeness. An imitation that is supposed to pass as the original.

There are many easy things to point to and say "There is satan behind that".

But we have been duely warned that "other" Jesus' would be preached and spoken. It even says the very elect will be deceived. That means leaders, not speacial people honed in. Leaders. The very people who may be leading you can be deceived.

Scary thought? Nah, not really. Why? Because I have the Holy Spirit residing in me to teach me and to discern things if I will listen.

1 Timothy 4:1

1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

What is a doctrine of a devil? Its one that does not line up with the word of God. Its tht simple.

2nd Tim 4: 3For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

4And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

Thast pretty strong. Its happening.

When I read of a man that has at least been a practicing satanist that speaks to the dead, promotes ideas of angels, I am going to speak forth.

When I read of a man claiming to go to hell when the scriptures say it is impossible and gives its reasoning, I am going to speak out.

One time, when I was about 20 we were in a fellowship group. In the discussion, I gave my opinion. The leader chorted me and said Dennis, it doesnt matter what your opinion is. It matters what the context of God's word says.

Study, and you will not be moved by sensationalism of the enemy.


Tropical_Man 68M
6389 posts
8/5/2008 5:02 pm

Peace to you too my friend.


Sweethoney2007 64F
6565 posts
8/6/2008 12:23 am

BECAUSE MANY ARE CLAIMING TO BE CHRISTIANS WHEN IN FACT THEY ARE NOT!!!!

Isaiah 42:8 " I am the Lord; that is my name! And My glory I will not give to another, nor My praise to graven images."


Sweethoney2007 64F
6565 posts
8/6/2008 12:27 am

Those who prefer the doctrines of men over Gods word are evident...they will delete your argument on the blogs or ban you if they cannot defeat the word of God! Many even on the blogs claim to know Jesus but deny His word.....thus they deny him and have no salvation. You are either with me or against me, Jesus said ...THERE IS NO MIDDLE GROUND!!!

Isaiah 42:8 " I am the Lord; that is my name! And My glory I will not give to another, nor My praise to graven images."


Tropical_Man 68M
6389 posts
8/6/2008 12:47 am

well in your word... Kim what constitutes a Christian


Sweethoney2007 64F
6565 posts
8/6/2008 6:01 am

Those who walk in truth. Any person claiming to be saved and rejects the WORD OF GOD ...sola scriptura...... is a deciever.

2 John Chapter 1

The elder unto the elect lady and her children, whom I love in the truth; and not I only, but also all they that have known the truth.

For the truth's sake, which dwelleth in us, and shall be with us for ever

Grace be with you, mercy, and peace, from God the Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, in truth and love.

I rejoiced greatly that I found of thy children walking in truth, as we have received a commandment from the Father

And now I beseech thee, lady, not as though I wrote a new commandment unto thee, but that which we had from the beginning, that we love one another

And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it

For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward

Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son

If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed

For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds

Having many things to write unto you, I would not write with paper and ink: but I trust to come unto you, and speak face to face, that our joy may be full

The children of thy elect sister greet thee. Amen.


Isaiah 42:8 " I am the Lord; that is my name! And My glory I will not give to another, nor My praise to graven images."


Sweethoney2007 64F
6565 posts
8/6/2008 6:09 am

The word principles is translated from the Greek word arche which means the beginning or origin. Hebrews reference is listing the beginnings or origins of the doctrine of Christ.

Hebrews 6:1,2

Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.

Denial of these doctrines in any way.... humanism, Rome, Cults, ect.


Isaiah 42:8 " I am the Lord; that is my name! And My glory I will not give to another, nor My praise to graven images."


Sweethoney2007 64F
6565 posts
8/6/2008 6:15 am

Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God(John 3:3)

No amount of supposed good works will do. You need to be given new life by the Holy Spirit of God so that you will be enabled to embrace Jesus Christ as Saviour. This is not something that you can do for yourself, just as man had no control over his natural birth, neither does he have any control over in his spritual re-birth.

If those claiming to be christian are not regenerated as a result of the Sovereign work of the Holy Spirit, then they will remain dead in their sins, and will not enter God’s kingdom.


Isaiah 42:8 " I am the Lord; that is my name! And My glory I will not give to another, nor My praise to graven images."