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Tropical_Man 68M
6573 posts
7/5/2008 1:50 am
Bentley's Source of Power, Defend this Kristy or Jean


Bentley's Source of Power

We don't have to play a guessing game to discern the source of Bentley's power over undiscerning people. His own testimony reveals how he reportedly tapped into the spirit realm for the key to do signs and wonders.

In one of his "Fresh Fire" classes called "The Secret Place" (circa 2005, CD on file), Bentley takes his followers to Psalm 91 for his proof-text in examining how to get power.

[His voice on these tapes is very eerie - it is indistinguishable from a cult leader by the name of Anthony Marcolongo, a demonized "prophet" who back in the late 1980s abused his flock and molested his female followers. His tyranny came to an end when he was killed in a one-car crash and his body, along with his car, were wrapped around a tree.]

Here is the text in Psalm 91:1-2

"He who dwells in the secret place of the Most High Shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty. I will say of the Lord, 'He is my refuge and my fortress; My God, in Him I will trust.'"

And here is Bentley's paraphrase of it that he gave in a gravely shouting voice:

"He who dwells, not visits, dwells in the abode of God shall be like the Most High in that you will be uppermost, far above, in the highest excellence of anything that you do in your life as supreme ruler in your circumstances. He who dwells in the secret place of the Most High is supreme, far above uppermost, highest heights of heaven, lofty, excellence, overcoming Christian. Are you understanding me?!?"

So, according to Bentley, those who dwell in the secret place are "supreme" - supreme what? Lofty? Uppermost? Do those words sound familiar?

"How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star, of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations! You said in your heart, 'I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God; I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly, on the utmost heights of the sacred mountain. I will ascend above the tops of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.'"
(Isaiah 14:12-14)

It is hard to tell the difference between the words of Bentley and those of Satan! He went on to elaborate:

"You see, I want to be fruitful; I want to be far above. I want to be a conqueror; I want to be a mountain of strength; I want to be greatness. You know, we like that word greatness. Well, he who dwells in the secret place of the Most High automatically comes into everything that the Almighty is. It happens."
And here's God's response to the devil and to Bentley if he does not repent:
"But you are brought down to the grave, to the depths of the pit."
(Isaiah 14:15)

So how did Bentley purport to get into that secret place? He explains that in another session from the same conference in his message entitled, "Soaking." In that message he said that he began to practice "contemplative prayer" something he said he learned from studying the lives of mystics such as Brother Lawrence and an Indian mystic named Sundar Singh. He said that this silence launched his ministry after three months of soaking (meditating in an altered state of consciousness) culminated in a physical encounter with Jesus Christ who stood behind him and spoke to him audibly.

In reading about Singh on the Internet, I found out that he was a "Christian Sikh" Indian who lived from 1889 to 1929. He practiced mind-emptying meditation that he warned wasn't for everybody since it held dangers. Wikipedia documents that Singh would visit the spirit plane during his times of silence. It said:

"Singh stated that he had contact with Swedenborg in the spirit world: 'I saw him several times some years ago, but I did not know his earthly name. His name in the spiritual world is quite different just according to his high position or office and most beautiful character---Swedenborg was a great man, philosopher, scientist and, above all seer of clear visions.

I often speak with him in my visions. He occupies a high place in the spiritual world --- Having read his books and having come into contact with him in the spiritual world, I can thoroughly recommend him as a great seer."


Jackie Alnor

looking4aknight 62F

7/5/2008 11:07 am

Dennis, I have not watched any of the revival nor have I read up on anything going on there.I had heard about the pennsecola outpouring years ago and the toronto blessing and was very against much of that until the Lord told me to stop judging.The reason being is whether it is right or wrong God looks at the hearts of the people receiving and because of their faith many experienced genuine healing and restoration etc.God always honors faith.The thing he shared with me is the danger of people seeking the power more then seeking him. There is balance.I will not judge things because I know God works in mysterious ways and I know when revival hits that things will not be business as usual. The Lord is sending Jean,Ken,Mark and myself for a revival he will bring to Nashville and God will use music in the process.Thats all I can say on the subject right now..Blessings

Please remember to keep our soldiers in your prayers!!! Kristy


Tropical_Man 68M
6389 posts
7/5/2008 11:21 am

you need to learn to think. God tells us to judge.


looking4aknight 62F

7/6/2008 10:01 am

    Quoting Tropical_Man:
    you need to learn to think. God tells us to judge.
Dennis, Why are so many people better judges then they are lovers of people? Depends how people are judging? You quote other peoples judgements on topics so sometimes I sense you are judging prejudged statements. If you really want to make a true judgement go to the revival yourself and sense from your own spirit not just because Of what your reading from someone else. All I sense is negativity bitterness and hurt and control.We can become so focused on over peoples negativity that it becomes the driving force behind our actions.I tend to stay away from negativity as I grew up in that kind of enviroment.I think we need to search our own hearts before we can judge others. Just my opinion.

Please remember to keep our soldiers in your prayers!!! Kristy


Tropical_Man 68M
6389 posts
7/6/2008 2:45 pm

Kristy. The facts are there. God does call us to discern, and not be ignorant. Paul sternly warned of these people.

The facts are all there Kristy. I put out facts here and you just ignore them. That in itself is immature. Its a huge problem why people are so deceived. Personally I get sick of blatabt ignorance. If you cared more what God said, you would take the time to find out what these peoples origins are.

You are the one that came and blindly defended someone who is very very screwed up. Many people are being hurt by the deceptiveness of what these people are doing. Your attitude is exactly how we end up with the Barack Obammas and Todd Bentleys of this world. If they are exposed for what they truely are, then it saves a lot of people a lot of pain.