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Tropical_Man 68M
6573 posts
7/4/2008 12:20 pm
Please....In Jesus Name explain this stupidity!


I just watched some of the most moronic and mislead speaking by Todd Bently. I have tried to watch some of the "god" TV to see what possibly anyone could get out of this.

I just can not even respect anyyone that is watching all this false schenanigans. Someone tell me how God would tell you to knee a man in the stomach to be healed from type 4 colon cancer. Tell me?

Tell me why this moron kicks a woman in the stomach so she can be healed?

Roll on the floor and act like something is happening to him spiritually.

Act like a mantally retarded man.

You have to be emotionally unstable to even get into this.

They screen people before they go up there to be prayed for to see if they are into the ministry. If not. They send them back.

I saw a claim of a poor little boy in a wheelchair that he was healed, yet his mother had to hold him so he could even stand. His voice was like he had a speech impedimend.

So if god healed his legs, he would not take care of the speech impediment? Yeah right. And he cant stand by himself? What kind of "god" is that.

It bothers me to no end that a friend from big church buys into this total phoney baloney.

The only act of God that will hit that place is a lighning bolt hitting Bentley and Strader. How pathetic.


pricelessjoy 73F
5916 posts
7/4/2008 1:13 pm

I have not watched this on television. It is all a hoax and the dramatics is strickly for television. I believe in God's healing but not when it is misused in this way.

May God Bless You in ABUNDANCE


Tropical_Man 68M
6389 posts
7/4/2008 1:42 pm

Amen!


Tapestry_Of_Life 58F

7/4/2008 3:04 pm

I could not believe it either Dennis, when I saw this man, it makes me sick to the stomach.
How we need to cling to the word of God in these times and test all things...
Although this man, is not too hard too see the deception here, he is totally messed up in a big way.

Netty .


Just home from a wonderful honeymoon

matt31272
I love you
my honey


floridagal2 66F
1960 posts
7/4/2008 3:23 pm

I don't know and don't understand but try to withhold judgment...I was speaking about something quite similar one time and got a gentle rebuke from a pastor friend that kind of stuck with me...."Jesus did many things in His time that seemed odd and strange to onlookers...think of what people thought of him when he spit on some mud and applied it to the blind man's eyes and healed him of his blindness. Couldn't He have just healed him without that?"

I honestly don't have the answer here...I have questions like you; I pray God to enlighten us and show us if this is truly of Him and if He is being glorified in this.


He is no fool if he should choose to lose the things he cannot keep to gain what he can never lose.....Jim Elliott


Deena


Cassiusclay 63M

7/4/2008 3:28 pm

Unfortunatly I am unfamiliar with Christian TV in America, I love Benny Hinn and Billy Graham, Joyce Meyer and a few others, kathryn Kuhlman

Gods way is my way,...Clay


Cassiusclay 63M

7/4/2008 3:29 pm

Amen Deena

Gods way is my way,...Clay


Tropical_Man 68M
6389 posts
7/4/2008 3:49 pm

Deena I would say to a Pastor....relinquish his position.Can anything good come out of it? I am sure, but its despite, not because of it.


floridagal2 66F
1960 posts
7/4/2008 4:54 pm

    Quoting Tropical_Man:
    Deena I would say to a Pastor....relinquish his position.Can anything good come out of it? I am sure, but its despite, not because of it.
The dear pastor friend of mine was not the one doing the healing services that I was questioning; I was just speaking to him and criticizing the ministry of someone...he just interjected a point of view that I had not at all considered, and in my heart at the time I felt the conviction of the Holy Spirit about what I had been saying...I had not attended the service, did not know the man I was criticizing and I was speaking without seeking God. My pastor friend is a New Zealander I met years ago while attending a missionary training school in NZ...he is a wise and mature Christian, a gentle spirited man and used of God mightily in his ministry.

Not really disagreeing with you, just saying I truly don't know...and wondering if I might have also been one of those questioning Jesus when he spit in the mud and applied it to the man's eyes...sounds disgusting and unnecessary to me in my human sense...just something to consider.

By the way hope you are having a good 4th of July...didn't end up going to the BC party...felt the need to have a calm, quiet day here.
Blessings,


He is no fool if he should choose to lose the things he cannot keep to gain what he can never lose.....Jim Elliott


Deena


looking4aknight 62F

7/4/2008 5:43 pm

Dennis, I have seen alot of miracles take place that do not make sense yet long ago God showed me he can use anyone he wants anyway he wants and that so many people put God in a box.Smith Wigglesworth did alot of those same things and people were healed and the dead came back to life.If you're saying those healings are of satan then I would question someone coming very close to blasphemy of the Holy Spirit because its the spirit that manifests healings.Get out natural mindsets and natural understanding and get in the Spirit to see what really is happening.You are judging through your flesh and need to repent. What kind of miracles is God doing through you?You are imparting unbelief and threading a fine line. Stop judging everything in your flesh.I'm so concerned for you!!! Blessings

Please remember to keep our soldiers in your prayers!!! Kristy


Tapestry_Of_Life 58F

7/4/2008 9:21 pm

    Quoting looking4aknight:
    Dennis, I have seen alot of miracles take place that do not make sense yet long ago God showed me he can use anyone he wants anyway he wants and that so many people put God in a box.Smith Wigglesworth did alot of those same things and people were healed and the dead came back to life.If you're saying those healings are of satan then I would question someone coming very close to blasphemy of the Holy Spirit because its the spirit that manifests healings.Get out natural mindsets and natural understanding and get in the Spirit to see what really is happening.You are judging through your flesh and need to repent. What kind of miracles is God doing through you?You are imparting unbelief and threading a fine line. Stop judging everything in your flesh.I'm so concerned for you!!! Blessings
We can never put God in a box, but we can never also ignore the signs of the times...
In the end times there will be wolves in sheeps clothing...

It is our own salvation we are working out daily,
Amen,
Blessings...

Netty.


Just home from a wonderful honeymoon

matt31272
I love you
my honey


Tropical_Man 68M
6389 posts
7/5/2008 12:14 am

Amen Netty

Kristy I am concerned for people like you and Jean. Tossed by the wind and unstable. You both fall into the mindset of easily deceived. Go by experiences instead of what is scripturally acceptable. I have watched enough of what goes on there to know it is not God. I dont see Paul in the scriptures doing any of this looney and vilent stuff. Do you? Just show me a place where Peter or Paul is yaing on the ground laughing. Show me where Paul knees a man with cancer so he can be healed. Kicks a woman in the face.

Do you see how stupid that is? I sure hope you can. It says that people will use the name of Jesus and that they will say did we not do signs and wonders....Depart from me, I never knew you. Wow, signs and woners and still depart. That means something good could happen in his name. Simon the scorcerer even tried that.

So we go back to the scriptures. As a Christian , show me this stuff, where it happened? Falling backwards was a bad thing in the scriptures. It represented rebellion on the persons part. Falling forward meant that good things. Yet everyone falls backward.

In Hindu services they have things happen. Id it from God. They have the same stuff when emotionally they reach Kundalini. It is much more represented in the Hindu religion what is going on than it even would resemble in Christianity.

Like I said. Look at Paul and Peter. You will not find any nonsense like what goes on. If you did any study regarding this and brownsville and totonto you would know people were scammed by it and it was never real.

Pentecost happened one time. It was the giving of the Holy Spirit to mankind. You will not find anything after that that comes close to that in the scriptures and you do not find the baptism of the Holy Spirit afte acts like it would be if indeed it was a needed second grace. Thats like sayinh just having Jesus is not enough.

I assure you Kristy, I have had my share of experiences. I also have discernment and I know total BS when I see it. I love Jean to death, but have seen too much being blown ny the wind to not be surprised she falls for this.

Scripturally. as in the other two places, this does not line up with Gods word at all. But it does line up with Kundalini.


Tropical_Man 68M
6389 posts
7/5/2008 12:14 am

Had a relaxing day


Tropical_Man 68M
6389 posts
7/5/2008 12:45 am

"The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness." 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12


looking4aknight 62F

7/5/2008 11:22 am

    Quoting Tropical_Man:
    Amen Netty

    Kristy I am concerned for people like you and Jean. Tossed by the wind and unstable. You both fall into the mindset of easily deceived. Go by experiences instead of what is scripturally acceptable. I have watched enough of what goes on there to know it is not God. I dont see Paul in the scriptures doing any of this looney and vilent stuff. Do you? Just show me a place where Peter or Paul is yaing on the ground laughing. Show me where Paul knees a man with cancer so he can be healed. Kicks a woman in the face.

    Do you see how stupid that is? I sure hope you can. It says that people will use the name of Jesus and that they will say did we not do signs and wonders....Depart from me, I never knew you. Wow, signs and woners and still depart. That means something good could happen in his name. Simon the scorcerer even tried that.

    So we go back to the scriptures. As a Christian , show me this stuff, where it happened? Falling backwards was a bad thing in the scriptures. It represented rebellion on the persons part. Falling forward meant that good things. Yet everyone falls backward.

    In Hindu services they have things happen. Id it from God. They have the same stuff when emotionally they reach Kundalini. It is much more represented in the Hindu religion what is going on than it even would resemble in Christianity.

    Like I said. Look at Paul and Peter. You will not find any nonsense like what goes on. If you did any study regarding this and brownsville and totonto you would know people were scammed by it and it was never real.

    Pentecost happened one time. It was the giving of the Holy Spirit to mankind. You will not find anything after that that comes close to that in the scriptures and you do not find the baptism of the Holy Spirit afte acts like it would be if indeed it was a needed second grace. Thats like sayinh just having Jesus is not enough.

    I assure you Kristy, I have had my share of experiences. I also have discernment and I know total BS when I see it. I love Jean to death, but have seen too much being blown ny the wind to not be surprised she falls for this.

    Scripturally. as in the other two places, this does not line up with Gods word at all. But it does line up with Kundalini.
Dennis, The word says their were more miracles done that there could not be enough books written to fill the whole earth.We need to make sure God is first and foremost in our hearts and lives. Even the scribes and pharisees accused Jesus of operating under beezlebub and how did he reply? Yes the enemy goes about like a roaring lion seeking whom he may desire and yes he comes as an angel of light but he is not trying to bring people to salvation,raise ppl from the dead or heal them physically for God to get the Glory?Rediculous.The danger comes when people seek the power more then God. We always need to check our hearts and motives and I do check mine.God is the same yesterday, today and always and he still heals,sets people free from demonic influence,heals broken hearts,sets the captives free, brings salvation etc.His word is always demonstrated by power...Too many people sitting on the sidelines...doing nothing...Thats even more sad...

Please remember to keep our soldiers in your prayers!!! Kristy


Tropical_Man 68M
6389 posts
7/5/2008 12:17 pm

Kristy. The man is a mystic. He talks to dead people. Do you have one iota of a clue what the bible says about that? It speaks out strongly against it.

Jesus never kicked or punched or kneed anyone to heal them. Dont you see how stupid that is. If you wish to counsel people you better get a much more level head to you.

You can not presume things. You will not find in God's word the total BS going on there. Which is why you need to figure it out.