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Tropical_Man 68M
6573 posts
6/13/2008 2:05 pm
have you had your Kundalini today? A serious Read


KUNDALINI - (Sanskrit kund, "to burn"; kunda, "to coil or to spiral") a concentrated field of intelligent, cosmic invisible energy absolutely vital to life; beginning in the base of the spine as a man or woman begins to evolve in their first incarnation; fed by the chakras along the spine and by the cosmic energy entering through the feet from the earth; as wisdom is earned in each ..

..Kundalini is at least a 1000 years old occult practice with it’s roots in India. It involves bodily manifestations as a consequence to the ‘Awakening of an individual's kundalini’, and is related to several other occultic practices like Qi Gong (a Chinese occultic tradition).

Shakti Pat or Divine Touch Robert Walker described what takes place in Kundalini yoga: 'Few Christians realise that for thousands of years gurus have operated with gifts of healing, miracles, gifts of knowledge, and intense displays of spiritual consciousness as they stretch out and connect with a cosmic power which, though demonic in origin, is very real.

The meetings which mystic Hindu gurus hold are called 'Darshan'. At these meetings devotees go forward to receive spiritual experience from a touch by the open palm of the hand, often to the forehead, by the guru in what is known as the Shakti Pat or divine touch. The raising of the spiritual experience is called raising Kundalini. The practice is quite intricate but is brought on by Shakti Pat in conjunction with the repetition of mantras or religious phrases and by holding physical positions for a long time. After a period when the devotee has reached a certain spiritual elevation they begin to shake, jerk, or hop or squirm uncontrollably, sometimes breaking into uncontrolled animal noises or laughter as they reach an ecstatic high. These manifestations are called 'Kriyas'. Devotees sometimes roar like lions and show all kinds of physical signs during this period. Often devotees move on to higher states of spiritual consciousness and become inert physically and appear to slip into an unconsciousness when they lose sense of what is happening around them. This state is called 'samadhi' and it leads to a deeper spiritual experience.'

The Chart Below was prepared by Antti Huima in August 1996, based on the Kundalini FAQ, the Siddha Mahayoga FAQ, and general knowledge about the so-called Toronto Blessing movement. The Kundalini FAQs are found from spiritweb which has since closed.

Note. This document is laid out in two columns. The leftmost column contains quotes from the documents describing Kundalini. The rightmost column contains the comments of the author, pointing to the similarity between the Kundalini and the Toronto Blessing experiences.


Tropical_Man 68M
6389 posts
6/13/2008 2:07 pm

What are the signs of an awakened kundalini?

Briefly, according to classical literature the signs of an awakened kundalini can be grouped into: mental signs, vocal signs and physical signs. Mental signs can include visions that range from ecstatically blissful to terrifyingly frightful.

Vocal signs can include spontaneous vocal expressions that range from singing or reciting mantras to make various animals sounds such as growling or chirping. Physical signs include trembling, shaking and spontaneously performing hatha yoga postures and pranayamas.

From a more subjective perspective the more pleasant experiences associated with a kundalini awakening may include: waves of bliss, periods of elation, glimpses of transcendental consciousness. The less pleasant experiences associated with a kundalini awakening may include: trembling, sharp aches in areas associated with the cakras, periods of irrational anxiety, sudden flashes of heat. The following manifestations are also mentioned. singing, reciting mantras, animal sounds, trembling, shaking, yoga postures, waves of bliss, elation, altered consciousness, aches, anxiety, and feeling of heat flashes.


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Toronto Manifestations.Inspired singing in the spirit, other inspired utterances. It is conceivable that while yogis recite mantras, the Christians manifest something more typical to them. animal sounds. Strange (or prophetical) postures in general; Compulsory movements. Inward joy, laughter, trembling, shaking, , prophetical glimpses; reception of inward understanding of spiritual issues. Weeping. Crying. Anxiety because of the childhood traumas now being healed. Feeling of heat or cold.

There are striking similarities between the manifestations of an ‘awakened Kundalini’ and the Toronto Blessing


Tropical_Man 68M
6389 posts
6/13/2008 2:12 pm

So how do I awaken kundalini?

Broadly speaking there are two radically different direct approaches to awakening kundalini. One approach requires initiation by a guru and relies upon a technique called shaktipat, or ‘descent of shakti.’ It is variously called: Siddha Mahayoga, Kundalini Mahayoga or Sahaja Yoga (Spontaneous Yoga)... While not every long-term student necessarily shows signs of kundalini awakening it is amazing how many people have had instant awakenings of kundalini through initiation from Siddha gurus...


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Shaktipat means ‘the descent of power’ (literally: kundalini). The most common form of shaktipat is a touch by the guru on the individual's forehead. This is exactly the method that is used greatly to impart the ‘anointing’, for example, by Rodney Howard-Browne. This is also the most common way to receive the power.______________________________________________________

The ‘anointing ‘ is known to be contagious by nature and easily transferred from one to another. John Arnott compared it to a ‘spiritual virus’. For example when the members of a group of people holding one anothers hands fall simultaneously).


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Tropical_Man 68M
6389 posts
6/13/2008 4:38 pm

LOL


roar72 52M

6/13/2008 10:13 pm

big difference dennis

stretch...and breathe


Tropical_Man 68M
6389 posts
6/14/2008 2:34 am

so you are Hindu now Freddie?


Hidden_Treasure 66F

6/14/2008 5:34 am

freddie,

If you are the Roar person, and sent me an email or two, it filtered them out because it says you dont have a profile. Sooooooooooo if you write to me you will have to use this new one then I think.

I mean, if you are the same freddie Im thinking that you are.

Jn:14:15: If ye love me, keep my commandments. --Jesus.


Hidden_Treasure 66F

6/14/2008 5:37 am

All of that stuff is New Age stuff, Dennis. Its infiltrated all throughout Christianity but most are unaware of what it really is.

In fact.... here, read this...

as an example.

JANE ROBERTS AND SETH

Psychologist Jane Roberts, back in the 1960's, first met a Spirit who identified himself as Seth, when she started experimenting with an Ouija Board. An Ouija Board is a mechanism that is used to contact the Spirit World and upon it there are letters with which the Spirits can spell out messages. The Board also has the words Yes and No upon it. If you will recall, J.Z. Knight first had her meeting with the Spirit "Ramtha" after fooling around with Occult Pyramids. Being in any way connected with occultic practices leaves one vulnerable to demonic forces, and can become extremely dangerous!

Miss Roberts was thereafter able to discard her Ouija Board and speak on her own for the Spirit 'Seth', who from then on seemed to possess her. Jane Roberts then went on to publish thousands of pages known as The Seth Materials, which became quite famous. She also went on to conduct over 500 sessions with Seth. Her material was published in a series and became available in Book Stores all over America, and were an overnight sensation among New Agers and others who were interested in the Occult.

Soon, those who had read the Seth Materials began to meet at local homes all around the United States and even overseas to study these materials in groups. Seth told his followers that doing Eastern Meditation was very important for your Spiritual growth and would aid them in contacting the Spirits.

Each year in Austin, Texas, Seth disciples from around the world gather to study the Seth materials in depth, and to fellowship together. At one of these particular yearly meetings, the Seth followers were taught how to speak in tongues and to combine this with holy dancing. This of course, is what is done in Pentecostal Holiness Churches, which is in fact- Spiritualism.

During these tongue-speaking sessions, the Seth disciples were instructed on how to perform "Sumari", which supposedly is a language that is not really "language" in the normal sense of the word. Its importance is upon the sounds rather than upon its written patterns, and these sounds supposedly have a certain "power" when spoken.

Jane Roberts, channeler of the Seth Entity, described her first experience in speaking in Tongues:

"I heard a babble of voices in strange languages. I didn't know what I was supposed to do with them, but I knew that something was expected of me. Suddenly I began to chant words in a loud, ringing voice: 'Sumari, Ispania, Wena nefarie, Dena dena nefarie, Lona, Lana, Lana Sumare.' Then in a whisper someone else said in my voice, in other words coming from my mouth, but it was someone from inside of me, 'I am Sumari, you are Sumari, throughout the ages you have been Sumari. I am acquainting you with your heritage.' At the same time a delicious warmth filled my body. It came like a glow, from inside, radiating outward"
Of course, this was a demon who was speaking through Jane Roberts! The Devil used Roberts in a big way, because this widespread interest in Seth gave rise to the current channeling movement. With Seth was opened a whole new chapter in the history of American Spiritualism.

It used to be that New Agers had to go see an 'all-wise Guru' for instruction in Spiritual matters; but now you no longer needed a spiritually qualified instructor. You could listen to a channeled entity, who of course had "all the answers" about life. The Channeler need not even be qualified as a teacher, because the entity who was speaking through him or her was believed to be the "wise teacher" who was actually doing the teaching.

Jn:14:15: If ye love me, keep my commandments. --Jesus.


Hidden_Treasure 66F

6/14/2008 5:38 am

its just the same thing, coming from the same place as this false speaking in tongues garbage.

speaking in tongues, barking, etc...

Jn:14:15: If ye love me, keep my commandments. --Jesus.


Tropical_Man 68M
6389 posts
6/14/2008 10:29 am

Pretty much agree with you Claudia