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Tropical_Man 68M
6573 posts
3/13/2008 8:44 am
Do we have the "Judas" touch mentality?


I was saved in 1972. 15 years old at the time. I was incorporated into the charismatic movement within a year or so.

As I look back many people were falling headlong into this movement. Do I look back on this with fondness? Not really sure. I will mark it up as just part of the journey.

One thing the Lord has been speaking to me about lately is the take back the land, return to a place of dominion mentality that goes around.

In my day it was 2nd Chronicles 7:14

14 "if My people who are called by My name will humble themselves, and pray and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land.

Well we were taught if we did this it would restore America. There are two problems with this. First off, Revelations shows that end times will not be pretty. So just perhaps we are praying for the wrong thing. Secondly this was written to the jewish Nation and their situation. It is not even written to Christianity because Christianity did not even exist until Christ died on that cross.

Ok, the Judas thing. What does that mean? Where am I going with that? Judas believed Jesus was physically going to be King of Israel. He believed it was political. So his idea was Jesus would show all of his power and overcome if he was put into a corner he could not back out of.

Problem was, Jesus knew what was to happen and why. He was obedient unto death.

How many times do we think that everything should just go our way because we believe in Jesus? How many times do we believe God has to heal us when we ask him based on Isaiah 53? Because of the statement that if you ask anything in my name...........

I have learned something. Its all about him and his will and very little about me and my will. Thats why when we pray over something it should start, Father your will be done and not mine.

He knows what is going on.He also is in control much more than we realize. But how many times do we get it in our heads if we do this... or that... he has to respond to it. He doesn't have to do anything. He is God.

His ways are not our ways. He is not bound by any promise. He is our loving Father who is for us and not against us.

It is not about conquering nations or overcoming the so called enemy. It is about our relationship with him. It is simple. It is not rocket science. It is also not this huge big functioning doctrine we have been taught.

Yet we get into these thoughts of dominion. Thoughts of a war. Jesus wont the war. The battle is the Lord's. We are called to abide in him. Let him live through us.

Tropical_Man 68M
6389 posts
3/13/2008 2:58 pm

I agree