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Just as I rightly predicted, Europe is a bad place. UN makes sin agreement. Yeseree bob
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Dec 20, 2008 4:59 am
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I made blogs and stuff before of how evil Europe was but now I'm verified with one of the latest actions of the UN which is composed of 192 Nations. 66 nations singed onto a declaration that would allow a big sinful abomination to get a free ride. But to the liberal's dismay, the U.S. not only refused to sign the agreement but squeezed a bottle of ketchup in the EU's Presidents face. Just kidding about the latter, but boycott these nations that signed on to the Sin declaration. People who are smart know what I'm talking about. The 66 countries that signed the joint UN statement for LGBT human rights are:
Albania, Andorra, Argentina, Armenia, Australia, Austria
Belgium, Bolivia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Brazil, Bulgaria
Canada, Cape Verde, Central African Republic, Chile, Colombia, Croatia, Cuba, Cyprus, Czech Republic
Denmark, Ecuador, Estonia, Finland, France, Gabon, Georgia, Germany, Greece, Guinea-Bissau
Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Japan, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg
Malta, Mauritius, Mexico, Montenegro, Nepal, Netherlands, New Zealand, Nicaragua, Norway
Paraguay, Poland, Portugal, Romania
San Marino, Sao Tome and Principe, Serbia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland
The former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, Timor-Leste, the United Kingdom, Uruguay, and Venezuela. --------------------------- Some may ask how do you boycott a nation. Don't buy their products is one way. Mark
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Exposing the Psychiatry Movement of 19th. Bipolar is a lie, and so is ADD
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Dec 10, 2008 10:01 pm
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I bring up this topic for good reasons. I became suspect of the so-called mental disorders such as bipolar and ADD because I knew when I was told I was bipolar by people who don’t even know me, that they were the ones with the mental problems. And lately I did some research about those invented mental disorders. Just to note here that months ago I knew a person who said her kids had a disorder but it seemed more like brain malfunctions than anything.
I read there are mental disorders such as bipolar two, etc, but I was kind of familiar with the term schizophrenic because my friends and others I knew would usually label some maniacs as schizophrenic. It wasn’t that I disagreed with them that there were people who were just crazy, but that we have to interpret thing in condition the society is in. In other words, sometimes people are associated with the worse society ever, but when they see someone partly nice, he or she may be labeled his or her friend. It doesn’t mean that person is their ideal friend. Anyone can do something nice, but it doesn’t mean overall that person is a nice person. For as much as I know anyone can be really a bad person because no one really knows how that person acts at home or in life.
But going back to the subject I found it very convenient for those defining bipolar to say that those who are bipolar don’t enjoy things that they would enjoy or use to enjoy. One has to look at the origin of the invented condition such as bipolar or schizophrenia. That can be traced the Psychiatry Movement of the 19th century. That is in the 1800s for those in Pennsylvania. In fact it is not a coincidence that a student of someone thought of as the Father of Psychiatry was a main hero for the Nazi sterilization program. He was Swiss and apparently went to that famous Psychiatry school in Munich, Germany. These guys would mix fact and fiction and make up stuff such as schizophrenia or depression. Or they would classify certain mania from lesser to greater degrees. Either way they wanted to place more blame on the chemical nature instead of the PERCEPTION one may have about things. To me it’s all excuses for not placing blame on truly bad ideas out there. Instead of fixing bad things in society Psychiatrists just want the quick instant capitalistic approach of solving things which is just really treating everyone as a number.
I’ll give a better approach and equate something that may happen locally to the ignorance of the Psychiatry Movement or the psychology Czars. We know people sometimes don’t really control their pets. In this case, some dogs are really dangerous if they are not chained or someone’s fence is small enough where a dog can jump their fence. The solution to this is getting a bigger fence or a good chain for dogs to be restrained when people are leaving their house. However lately on the news I heard that the animal control business wants to issue permits so that pet owners can in the sense register their pets. They also would give them the option to sterilize their pets or as I would rightly predict, they would charge owners to register their pets if they wouldn’t sterilize them. All this avoids the safety of having a chain on the dog or keeping cats confined in their properties.
Back to the subject. Some Psychologists arguments crumble when one sees that these invented disorders are based on a relatively few individuals who did this or that in their lives in which no one can really paint everyone else with. I give a great example about myself. I know that people judge you for your behavior, and I know to what degree they will react or even over react when I would do this or that. It is sort of a game I play with them because at the same time I’m figuring them out, and understand what makes them tic or what doesn’t make them tic. And sometimes they just don’t tic because they are so slow that I wonder if they did take some drugs that not only stopped their impulses but stopped their brain waves.
I’m not saying there aren’t any mental disorders because there are some severe mental disorders but to invent new words just to prove some theory only makes the theory look very fake. Take for instance people who have suicidal thoughts. I knew a few people on the net who told me they wanted to kill themselves, but the mental disorder would be someone telling suicidal people lies how they are important or for instance trying to help them with some advice or beliefs. First of all suicidal people are not in the condition that they would here good advice, and beliefs just turn them off anyway. They have to figure out themselves what hope would be, and the best someone can do is just be there for that person. The solution is finding the heart of the problem and bringing the right answers to their problem, and that has to be saying the truth, even if the truth may hurt.
In other words, true mental disorders which are not newly discovered mental disorders are considered solutions to people too. A great example is the big lie that we have to utilize our left brain or something and the true mental disorder would be using tax payer money to teach kids music, arts or psychology. There is mental disorder of someone thinking one has to broaden their world and do more, but that is just gang mentality. I’ve been in the social world long enough to know how to really categorize and classify certain people. But I wouldn’t use a pill solution to deal with those mental disorders. Anyone can label anything a mental disorder but the theory of someone being bipolar or ADD are just pre-Nazi societal brainwashing. The newly invented mental disorders are just the beginning winds before the storm. It got contagious and led to World War II.
I read a book about ADD and even that so-called disorder is just as ignorant of how conclusions should be made. A great example that disproves ADD is ADD’s claim that people fail at things. Notice the top of the class are those who are running these big companies and the stock market. They failed and had to ask government to bail them out. Does that mean those successful people had ADD. They were successful and became CEOs and managers, not to mention too, investment czars, but still they failed and not only failed but caused thousands of others to fail, almost destroying the whole united states. So much for someone failing at smaller things. The bigger guy would have done more damage. When I read excerpts of people’s claims to have ADD then I knew it was all hog wash because their failures were based on circumstances that are just unavoidable sometimes. If someone tries to teach a 2 year old calculus they never will because it’s not a mental disorder but just a reality. The amount of time someone fails has nothing to do with a mental disorder for the most part, but with circumstances and the perception someone has.
Many people told me I acted nice for the most part, but they saw a side of me that they didn’t like or some just told me I had some problem. They greatly misunderstand the fact the only way they can truly understand someone is if they spend a great deal amount of time with them. The bully mentality makes accusations that someone is bipolar or has some mental condition because it makes him or her feel superior. Just like the Nazis, blaming everything on a few things or a few individuals or types of individuals only makes their world very small, and then they have to conquer the world. Obviously they had some real mental disorders. Talk about without a brain is more like it.
For instance people defining bipolar say that those with bipolar may feel isolated and have changing moods from time to time. Then they say those with bipolar should go to a Psychologists or Psychiatrists because they would truly know their conditions. That sounds a lot more like brainwashing where the educated too once said that discovered this or that but then a later discovery shut them up. It wasn’t that they were truly blind before as they might admit but still they give themselves all the credit for the newer discovery when they lead everyone astray in the first place. Just because someone is an expert doesn’t mean he or she knows better. That is why it is called brainwashing because people just follow the crowd and don’t think for themselves. They have no idea especially at a younger age what contains what or what purpose any chemical actually has.
So I did know people enough to know when to speak about my views or beliefs. It wasn’t that I had changing moods. I knew that I could act a different way when certain people were in the room. I knew what some would think. I just didn’t know they would use categories that ignorant psychiatrists would make up. I’m not saying again that crazy people don’t exists because they are people filled with hate, and do not have self control. Whether to attribute it to their mental condition I would rather attribute someone’s faults to their lack of wisdom and type of perception they may have. For instance, the perception that some have that bipolar is a mental condition just proves that their perception is off course. The bipolar theory incorporates many things combined into one condition and those things can be used by bullies to intimidate, attack, and falsely gossip about anyone.
Psychologists like to bully people and they think they are superior. They want to make their profession as something society would really need, but they are like snake oil salesmen making up a disease that just isn’t there. Yes, there are people that need to be in jail and restrained, but the solution to true mental disorders is offering good ideas, and if psychologists make up all kinds of disorders they rely more on broad brushing and cause good solutions to go out of existence because they are making excuses for everything, besides keeping ignorance reigning every which way but loose. So Psychologists are people with mental disorders. They are the ones that keep society blinded from real truth like the truth that is in the bible or the truth that is in the wisdom of Christian writers,etc.
Usually I hear that some criminal was bipolar or some incident where whoever caused something bad to happen that it was that person that was bipolar or had some mental condition. I could see all the labeling if someone was known for having certain drama in their lives and then was involved in some crime or bad event. For instance, I was reading what was said of a terrorists before he blew up a building. They attributed his attitude to events in his life about this or that as though normal people can’t have similar events in their lives. Many times people always say some bad person was a loner and didn’t talk to anyone, and then kind of attribute his bad actions to something bad that happened in his past or her past. Some of the best scientists and famous people were not social, and many people who started off in bad circumstances became contributors to a better society. Jesus fasted in the wilderness for so many days, and even Paul started off putting Christians in jail. The labeling and social categorizing are just selective way for people to keep the status quo. They have to make excuses for their behavior and they don’t want anyone challenging them. Then all of sudden they have to event a mental disorder named bipolar so that no one would challenge them. Bipolar is defined too as being argumentive. That should say it all. They want their established ways to be the rulers of man’s behaviors. This leads me to change the topic to the real culprits of those inventing false disorders.
The societal brainwashing is now about making anything that seems extreme to them as something fanatical or just fundamentalists type of teachings. One has to see first in the spectrum the extreme can go the other way too. There are people that like anarchy, but some don’t know that in between anarchy and communism is something called liberalism. It doesn’t mean liberalism is all bad because sometimes people are born into it and may have the chance to get out of it totally if that becomes possible. I was kind of liberal 10 years ago and I am still living with a few minor consequences of it. The fact that I seemed to be always fault finding made some think I had been hurt in life or I was better than anyone was just their judge-mental attitude. It was as though they were labeling my fault-finding as a fault, so they became fault finding. How ironic, but stating what is wrong from right is not fault-finding but a sign of good character.
If the society is mostly brainwashed, anything new they would hear would seem like fault-finding but it’s like shining a light in darkness. Sometimes people just are too much into the darkness that everything different they don’t believe must be extreme or muslim as some might say. So they associate things they don’t like with people they disagree with it or behaviors like stalking or harassing. When the really educated establish their ideas as the standard then people who listen to those standards never really check or really prove those ideas. It just like vaccines, many people won’t question them because somehow just because professionals want people to get shots it must be the right thing to do. People are made to believe that fluoride in drinking water might help children, but they know that is their lack of standards in controlling that toxic substance in the first place that makes people want to put fluoride in water. It is the same thing with the idea of sterilizing animals when they know that they could solve the animal problem by limiting how many animals or what type of animals people can have. For instance they should make a law banning people from having cats in city neighborhoods because cats will roam and make a mess elsewhere. Instead of having all these population problems they should put bigger limits on immigration until a nation or state gets their population problems solved. Society wants all these quick instant solutions, that in the long run, true moral standards will disintegrate. It’s not that I was extreme or fundamental. It was that they don’t like a moral solution. They don’t like to make lasting solutions. Instead they need to demonize people who are moral so that they can promote their compromised ways. It’s all their agenda to be inclusive at the cost of doing away with true moral standards. When they have the tools of psychiatry they can forever have the upperhand in making certain behaviors as disorders when they know that sometimes people can really love something and wouldn’t let peer pressure or societies brainwashing take their God-given rights away. They can’t mix their lies with true solutions because that still means they don’t have any sense. Looking to the source of any problem too is the solution. Just like when the Psychiatry Movement started, I pinpointed how some just like to mix their bad ideas with truly right normal thinking. Psychologists come from Bullism, and that is the heart of dictators like Hitler and the Nazi movement. They just will never learn until the truth makes them see that the solution to many things they can't really understand is Christ.
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Predestination and when is someone saved.
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Dec 6, 2008 6:53 am
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I have tackled this issue years ago. I even decided to skip a semester of taking classes around 1992 so that I could become more familiar with the church I went to, but around that time, my parents already splintered to another similar church because of one reason or another. Besides my grandfather was a minister too and every christmas we still were able to talk to our former pastor who is also my uncle. I got baptized by him around the age of 16 but i didn't think baptism in itself would save me, but my decision to choose Christ. Be really careful how you understand the last sentence I just wrote about salvation. John 3:16 exactly states whosoever believes in him might not perish, but have eternal life. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Who can possibly disagree that salvation is not about making a choice to believe in Christ or not. However I just stumble into things at times and this time it was a friend who introduced me to someone named Bob from PA state that prompted me to bring light on the subject again because it deals how people react to things. I chatted often with that other friend and I even suggested to her that she attend a baptist church instead of the Nazarene church she is in. I wasn't encouraging to know that some baptists are liberals, or that sometimes people think some baptists are very judgemental. But in a chat room my main friends were always baptists just like in the university I went to. My challenging conversations were toward baptists and all the rest of the denominations just all sat like slobs looking at their finger nails and asking what happened. In fact, around 2000 I got really in trouble when I just left my calculus II class in the middle of the professors's lecture to shout and yell at the baptists students in their meeting about Clinton and Gore being allowed to be baptists. I mean I had to go to anger management and pay around 70 dollars for two lousy saturday, maybe 2 hour long meetings. I was given some survey and then watched a video how some football player asked Roger Starbuch for money, and then was into drugs. Was that the biggest waste of time ever and after those anger management classes i became more angrier. It was around december too and the first saturday was rainy, and i had gone about 7 miles with my bicycle. Just because the freakin baptists leader couldn't get a clue that they should act christian always, and I think Al Gore was in Houston at the time. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The point here I'm making is that in the nineties I was getting informed about christians in politics and how christians reacted to stuff. It wasn't that I wanted to speak at people but my first social experience with someone from mainstream christianity put the biggest red light I have seen since a decade. I met her in the early nineties because we took the bus together but i was so shy then that when i asked her to lunch like once in a lifetime she sat with me and a friend who i knew from highschool. I know I'm digressing from the subject but I'm saying my experiences with her put the question in my mind was if things were really thought through when it came to doctrine, and they were not. In fact those bible meetings i went to in the nineties all they did is read some chapter and ask people they didn't really know what they thought about what they read dealing with their lives. Right after 9-11 the bible meeting was changed to a prayer meeting and still they asked people what they thought about it. So this brings me to SIDE SHOW BOB, the guy from Pennsylvania who I vaguely new through a friend months ago, but weeks ago him and I were corresponding by emails which were mostly about beliefs. It was just today I reread his latest email and it just demonstrated how lost some so-called Christians are. I'll go step a step showing his ideas just crumble when they are exposed in the light of what God says or just normal thinking. The first thing Bob says in the email is very obvious about what he thinks of salvation but the topic starts about PREDESTINATION. Here is what SIDE SHOW BOB says: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"..........., I feel that all Christian Churches believe in that doctrine, BUT it is 'HOW' they believe in the doctrine, that is important. There are TWO views. I am very familiar with the doctrine that you believe in, that God chooses those that will 'accept' the Lord Jesus Christ as their Savior. I used to believe that way for many years. Since then, through alot of study and prayer, I have found Scriptures that teach CONTRARY to that view. Mark, how do you read these verses in Romans 3:10-12? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- My Response: You see he makes a play on words like a liberal mostly does. Not saying conservatives can't be just as devious, but see how he words what I said. Ofcourse God hears prayers and would save someone if they call on the name of the Lord as Paul says too. I don't have to put the email I sent him before because I know my beliefs by heart. I don't need a yellow pad and an outline to explain salvation like the Church of Christ denomination does. I know I didn't really read his last email because most of his emails were very positive and right on when it came to scripture. I just knew something was very odd about him but couldn't say what. I guess I should have paid attention more about his lack of knowledge about those abortion protestors who got creamed or the hate speech laws that caused some Christians to go to jail. And those things happened in his state, and i'm in Texas, and he is in Pennsylvania. -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
But i can see where he gets led astray by his own reasoning as I note the verses he uses. These are the ones he used. Bob puts these verses: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"As it is written, There is NONE righteous, no, not one: There is NONE that understandeth, there is NONE that seeketh after God. They are ALL gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable: there is NONE that doeth good, no, not one".
Why are we NOT good? Why can't we seek God? It is because we are DEAD in our sins. We are totally UNABLE to seek God. So, if mankind cannot get themselves saved, how do we become saved? The answer is in John 6, when Jesus declares;
"No man CAN come to me, EXCEPT the Father which hath sent me DRAW him: and I will raise him up at the last day." (John 6:44)
"All that the Father giveth me SHALL come to me, and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. And THIS is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of ALL which he hath given me I should lose NOTHING, but should raise it up again at the last day" (John 6:37-39) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- My response: Bob uses about three passages but doesn't fail to put his own little words about what he thinks of one passage. Bob says that we are unable to seek God. Where in the world did he get that idea. Jesus was referring to the saving act of God because salvation isn't some instant ticket to heaven like Bob and others think. They totally miss out that when one chooses Christ, God does the rest, so it is true that no man can come to Christ unless the Father drew him or her to Jesus. In other words, it's a step process. In the bible it states 'Christ died, leaving us an example that we should follow his steps' That proves in itself that someone can seek God and someone can choose Christ. It is just the power of the saving act of God that draws a person to Christ, and not that a person can't make a decision whether to seek the broad or narrow way to heaven. Jesus oftentimes said 'follow me' and then they will see the light. How can someone decide to follow if it wasn't a choice. Bob totally misses out the free will part of it, and if his Predestination is right then I have a chain on my refrigerator. All Predestination is saying is that God wants everyone holy, and God wants everyone saved just like Peter states. In fact, Peter states that God is patient, and not willing that anyone perish. I think Bob was smoking something. . Lets further crumble his ideas. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob says:
I don't see these verses teaching that God saves us because WE choose Christ. I see these verses teaching us that GOD IS THE ONE THAT CAUSES US TO COME TO CHRIST to be saved. Also, many people teach that someone who is saved, can lose their salvation. The Bible teaches the opposite. Notice that Jesus said that He has lost NONE of them. Also in John 10:29, Jesus declares;
"My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand". ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- My Response:
This Bob doesn't get a clue. He said God was the one that CAUSES us to come to Christ. That totally leaves out any free will on our part, and not to mention the saving working power of God. Then what is the point of hearing what Christ taught or what Christ said about anything if God would just cause someone to go to Christ for salvation. I think he is excusing bad behaviour in the name of an instant ticket to heaven which isn't in the bible either. If I'm reading it right and I know I am it is God who wants everyone saved so God is causing everyone to come to Christ. Some are just spiritually blind in this dark evil lost world. Some will deny Christ and Christ's words will judge them in the end. In fact the reason God is causing us to come to Christ is because God wants to save us. It is our choice if we want to listen to Christ when we come to Christ so it's not a complete transfer to Jesus until someone chooses freely to become saved. Doesn't it say Christ saves us so just coming to Christ is the beginning step to the road of salvation. I don't think Bob thinks Judas was given by God to Christ, because Judas betrayed Jesus, and if there was a narrow one way to heaven then why seek anything because Bob said God has to draw us first. I guess according to Bob we just wait if God wants to save us because we can't do nothing to find salvation. Might as well think that God doesn't want some saved if we go down that road SIDE SHOW Bob believes. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Then side show bob goes into his mumble jumble tirade. Here are other things he said in the same message: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Mark, if you read Romans chapter 9, and Ephesians chapters 1 and 2, and John chapters 6 and chapters 17 VERY CAREFULLY, you will SEE how GOD saves us. The Bible NEVER speaks of us 'accepting' the Lord. The FACT is, that GOD HAS TO ACCEPT US!!! I believe that God does the COMPLETE work of saving us. We can't take ANY credit in saving ourselves. If we 'accept' the Lord, or 'walk down an asile', or 'say a sinners prayer' TO BE SAVED, the Bible refers to all of them things as 'works' that we are doing to become saved. But the Bible declares; "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that NOT OF YOURSELVES: it is the GIFT of God: NOT OF WORKS, lest any man should boast." (Ephesians 2:8-9) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- My response. He again totally misses the point of salvation. Now he is saying accepting Christ doesn't save us. He just made a complete 180 on the gospel. He is bunching and lumping all together one word to meaning everything he wants it to be. Just like my brother told me once what does world mean and it doesn't mean we are in the world just because we call earth the world. In this case Bob thinks 'works' mean too breathing or seeing. Imagine that. Might as well don't move because works don't save us, lol. Repenting is not a work. Paul is referring to works such as fasting, praying a lot, or even giving to the poor, or helping the homeless. The latter are those things that don't save us. Bob is just one of the millions of victims of the public school system. Let me put a bible passage that not only proves bob wrong but will also send him to jail without passing GO and collecting 200 dollars. Man and it's decemba. lol Not december, but decemba. This next bible passage puts a muzzle on side show Bob's clown tricks. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ROMANS 26:19,20 Therefore King Agrippa, I was not disobedient to the heavenly vision, "but declared first to Damascus and in Jerusalem, and throughout all the region of Judea, and then to the GENTILES, that they should REPENT, turn to God, and do works befitting repentance. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ In fact, that passage above actually says to do works and that repenting is not a work. So Bob needs to start reading too. Works show that one is truly repentant but works don't save, only repenting saves us. Wasn't Paul right then that people would depart from the faith. Welcome to Bob's departure from the faith. Lets see what else Bob says. Bob says : --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- But people claim that we have to 'receive' the Lord Jesus Christ, by DOING SOMETHING. They misinterpret the word 'RECEIVE'. For example, If you were sitting in a room, and someone walked in the room with a present for you. To receive the gift, you would have to get up out of your chair, and go to the person to receive the gift, right? But this is NOT how God uses the word receive, if our 'works' are NOT involved. The way God does it, is...you are sitting in the room, and the person walks in, with the gift, and comes over to you, and puts the gift RIGHT IN YOUR LAP!! Now, what did YOU do to 'receive that gift? The answer is, you did NOTHING. But you 'received' the gift, didn't you? This is how God saves us,...HE DOES IT ALL!!!!! Some people teach that God saves us by 99% grace, but it is 'up to us' to DO the other 1%. This is wrong, because that 1% is a 'work' that WE do. God does NOT SAVE US BY OUR WORK. Sure 'works' are good, and go along with faith, but ONLY AFTER we have become saved by God. In otherwords, we don't do works TO become saved, we do 'works' because we HAVE become saved. Can you see the difference? I have also heard many say, that Christ is a 'decision' that we make, or an 'offer' to the world. CHRIST IS A 'GIFT'!!!!!! Not a 'decision, or an offer!! Mark, I am sure that you have alot of comments and Scriptures to throw my way now, huh? (lol) I promise you, that I will explain EVERYTHING that you may ask me, ok? Also, please believe me, that even though we may believe a different way about salvation, I am NOT saying that God has not saved you, because I believe He has. I just pray that God will show you the things that He has shown me, concerning Predestination, Election, and WHY and HOW he uses the word, 'chosen'. You may ask me, how I would interpret John 3:16? John 3:16 is not an 'invitation', it is a STATEMENT!!! It is speaking of ALL OF GOD'S ELECT and HOW GOD SAVES THEM. Also, in Matthew, chapter one, verse 21, we read; "And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save HIS people from their sins". I hope that these things I have mentioned in this letter, will help you in reading the Bible in a whole NEW way, the way I believe that God has intended it to be read. Only the Lord opens His childrens spiritual ears and eyes to the HIDDEN things in His Word. The things that God has taught me through the Holy Spirit, is TOTALLY AWESOME!!! The Lord Jesus Christ is NOT a 'weak' Jesus, who pleads to people to 'accept' Him, and then dies on the cross for people who never do truly become saved. HE IS GOD ALMIGHTY WHO HAS DIED FOR HIS ELECT, AND EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM WILL BE SAVED!!! Otherwise, Jesus would be a failure, wouldn't he? The Bible NO WHERE says that he will fail to do ANYTHING. I can't stand the way the Word is being preached in our day by mainstream churches. Mankind and their PRIDE get SO HURT, because they want to take SOME KIND OF CREDIT in their salvation. Salvation is of the LORD!!! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- My Response: Bob's idea that the hidden wisdom of God means repentance is a work totally disregards what Paul said that the Gentiles must do works BEFITTING repentance. Right there shows that repentance and works are two difference things. Repentance, accepting Christ, and receiving Christ (which is believing in Christ) ARE NOT THE WORKS THAT PAUL IS REFERRING TO WHEN HE SAYS GRACE SAVES US. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob just wants to excuse the bad things that people do by his idea of this free gift of salvation theory. Well salvation is a free gift but that doesn't mean just anyone can be saved. Bob acknowledged himself that only God can bring a person to Christ, and we know God chooses people who first are aware of the law Moses too. Then like a liberal does, Side Show Bob takes a passage out of context to suit his limited view of salvation. Just because the gospel says God sent Jesus to save His people doesn't mean His people will all be saved. It also states that he came to his own but his own received him not. I thought receiving was a work and didn't save us but i guess not receiving him means they were still saved. Wrong Bob. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For example I went outside to try to save our dog from going outside the fence but does that mean I succeeded? Just because there were a people designated as God's people, that doesn't mean God will save all of them because God led his people out of Egypt but then God destroyed some of them including the foreigners who were living in palestine living every which way but loose. But let me tackle the once saved always saved theory. First of all if one was truly saved I think he or she would remain saved. I think there are those that just go half way or less when it comes to knowing God, and end up as those Jesus described in the parable of the Sower. Bob doesn't realize that the ones God gave Jesus are the ones that remain saved. Giving and leading are two different things. God is trying to lead everyone to be saved but God knows who will make the right choices in life, and God is giving those who make right choices to Christ. These are the ones that will always be saved because they were really saved in the first place. So how would Bob know that God wants everyone to be saved. All Bob has to read is where it says the gospel will be preached to the world as a witness first and then the end come. God gives everyone a chance. All God is doing too is making a people to serve HIM, and the bible foretells that most won't find salvation. Jesus said few would be saved. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- One of the first things I began studying about the bible was who was Christ. If knowing something wasn't important for the road for salvation then why did Jesus ask Peter who do men say that I am. Peter said Jesus was the Christ, the Son of the living God. Believing is receiving and we must believe in Jesus first to understand salvation, and then be born of the water and spirit to just see the kingdom of God. It's our choice to accept salvation and if it wasn't then why did Christ said we must be 'born again'. We must be born of the spirit and Christ's words are spirit. So we must be saved through the words of Christ, and the I think being born by water is being born by the life of Christ when he resurrected. He paid the penalty for my and your sins, so if we believe in our hearts God raised Jesus from the dead, and have true repentance because we believe the words of Christ, then we are saved. I think that is almost exactly how Paul said it too. We must believe with our hearts is the key.
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Why depression and lack of confidence is a BLESSING
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Nov 19, 2008 11:58 am
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Jesus said blessed are the poor in spirt, but I heard someone say that meant being humble. Then I said Jesus said blessed are those that mourn, and then she said 'lol'. Exactly, people who think depression and not having confidence is a sin have it completely reverse and all wrong to say the least. Paul talked about those putting a stumbling block and that gets rarely mentioned. People just want to close their minds to who they might offend or even disrespect. Imagine if people would respect life they wouldn't bad mouth conservatives about seeing the importance of being against abortion. Then these so-called wonder drugs for depression are just snake oil. First of all whoever made up the word depression is probably someone that loves to paint everything in one category. Depression doesn't exists. All it means is being very sad. Sadness can last a lifetime so some think they can call it depression but they use that word only to make people think that there is something wrong with them. No, Jesus said blessed are those that mourn, so next time there is someone who is sad or even hating themselves just show them that you are human too and can get sad too. It only shows we are human too. Society too along with individual are to blame most of time when it comes to faults, so like the bible says, humble yourselves and God will lift you up. We can't act like doctor know it all when it comes to people who are feeling down. They are blessed and at least show they really care about something or someone. Isn't that better than the hate people have for something they should be forgiving about.
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Global Warming is a LIE
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Nov 9, 2008 6:30 pm
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"Therefore the desert creatures will live there along with the jackals; The ostriches also will live in it, And it will never again be inhabited Or dwelt in from generation to generation." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- That's in the bible. People who know the bible know that the passage above was the curse God made to Babylon. That passage is in Jeremiah chapter 51. Does anyone know where babylon is now. Exactly! It's not there. Just before it wasn't there Al Gore said global warming was destroying it's plants and flooding was overrunning the fertile crescent. Yes Al Gore become king of babylon by preying on the fears of the babylonians about his snake oil called global warming. Now Al Gore had to move to Greece for his favorite plants and instead put Pharaoh Obama in the desert where Babylon was. But you know God really destroyed it and made it a desert. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- As I was looking at the arguments for global warming they all don't hold it's weight. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Secondly, a few thousand years ago the Sahara had more plants than it has now. In fact I read articles where that desert was full of greenery a few thousand years ago. I could see now 3000 years ago ancestors of the Vandals riding their gas polluting elephants and then Al Gore's great great ancient ancestor telling everyone to drive a camel instead lol. See. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Third, global climate change has always been happening and guess what. If there was all that nuclear testing, that would free up some carbon dioxide too. So blame the freaking french for that 1 degree change in global temperature. Tax the heck out of the wine and make europe pay for any increase in global temperature. ---------------------------------------------------------- Fourth, but actually that is pure liberal thinking when they talk about generalities like global temperature changes. I mean if global warming existed anyway Texas and the Sahara would be more cooler. That would make a better economy, but then temperature changes don't always follow the summed up increase in combined temperatures. In other words those 3000 scientists are screwed because they couldn't have made accurate temperature measurements because they weren't at every spot in the global. To make accurate global measurements on has to have a measurement ever other mile over the whole globe. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The fact that Gore ( I almost called Gore the name Global) said that 3000 scientists make it undeniable, and I mean global warming for those in Kansas, that only means he is close minded because 3000 scientists said too in the past that there was only 4 elements or some old fish wouldn't exists in the 19th century. They were proven wrong just like thousands of stuff scientists use to believe. -------------------------------------------------------------- Then there was the great flood in Genesis. Wow I didn't know those giants built cars and coal plants. They must be those volcanoes and those cloned mixed animals they grew in labs so they can ride an animal 10 feet high. Woowee. I guess 40 days and 40 nights of rain was caused by global warming. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Then you know they say global warming will cause more disease. Sure if one likes to play with mosquitoes or gets a kick out of drinking green water. I guess no one is responsible for their own behaviour. Oh I forgot liberals have to blame everyone so that individuals can do something else stupid. -------------------------------------------------------------- I guess if I see my dog drown in some expanded lake or some river that floods something I can blame global warming instead of the the buildings constructed in the north side that make water go further south. Just stupid, lol. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Global warming ideas are just an excuse to justify crowded cities. They want to give everyone all kinds of vaccines and you know justify abortion with stem cell research, that they need to blame a bigger cigarette. Oh rights thanks for making teenage girls more daring to have sex with that HPV vaccine. Now you are really gonna flood cities with gangs.
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Finally back to number one about droughts and plagues that God sends. Maybe the changes in the enviroment is the fault of other things besides coal plants or cars. Maybe it's immigration that is killing off species. Yup. I wonder how Billy the Kid got the idea that global warming killed off the buffalo. That gives a new meaning to the the word sitting bull and that sitting bull likes to Gore.
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Is the gospel about health and wealth?
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Oct 31, 2008 8:05 am
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I'm not a preacher or attending any particular church. Even when I grew up I didn't understand 90 percent of what the minister said because it was in spanish. However yesterday I was curious about a sort of religious channel that sometimes shows family oriented movies. I left the tv on to hear a minister preach about giving. Like all of them they use a passage in the old testament about tithing and you know that famous 'give to get' way of sowing a seed. I am familiar with these type of sermons where for instance, evangelists on tv who think for example that someone is not well off because they didn't follow something in the scripture or Jesus's sayings. Just think none of these preachers wouldn't survive on Tv or even radio if they didn't emphasize giving in many of their teachings. The preacher went on to even demonstrate that someone was dumb for saying he doesn't give to receive. The minister then talked a whole hour about others buying him clothes and his ups and downs about getting and giving 100 dollar bills. I could understand then why churches are not allowed to endorse any candidate and how ministries more about personal aggrandizement rather than preaching the message of repentance and love of God and love of neighbor. It's a blessing to give than to receive, but Jesus wasn't specific about what to give. Some gave up their lands for the ministry and others became a living sacrifice. So giving is not about the dollar bill or the check book. Giving is about loving others and not about as they say becoming successful. If ministers would instead be in tune with reality and get more involved in making a change in the the world they live in then maybe neighborhoods would be safer and Christians would be more interactive with their society. Sometimes I went to church but there wasn't any Church service because of this or that reason. Secular anti-christian people spend hours with christians in public schools but preachers and their churches can't even go over more than one book in the bible in one year with 30 minute Sunday school classes. I'm sure Paul the apostle would have wrote this too to those health and wealth gospel ministers: For you yourselves know how you ought to follow our example. We were not idle when we were with you, nor did we eat anyone's food without paying for it. On the contray, we worked night and day, laboring and toiling so that we would not be a burden to any of you. (II Thesalonians chapter 2 verse 7 and
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The pain of regretting something
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Oct 28, 2008 10:12 pm
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Broken relationships happen all the time. Oftentimes I deleted someone who didn't respond on messenger fast enough or I took their bad attitude as a reason to delete them. Still today most do that. They may respond but when it comes to emails or on the net for some reason I'm one of few that focuses on one person and doesn't hesitate to respond. Even in the chat room there are still a few who can conversate for more than an hour without a break. I can conversate for hours and maybe the whole day. The point is how much is anything really important when you hear about it. Some will regret they didn't keep a certain friend or that someone is better off. There is also the playing favorites scenario and jealousy is right around the corner. Are any of us prepared to lose someone we really loved. Is God there when we are at are lowest. Can anyone escape not being hurt by anyone? Before 2007 I did really like some people, but it seemed when I appeared to lose them I didn't know when I lost them and I felt I lost everything then too. I realize now that those friendship relationships where I rarely conversated with them one on one, was mostly based on the attachment of just seeing them. These were not immature things. I did like a few people to the point they were important to me, except the reasons I liked them were shallow and generic because they didn't really talk to me. It was not until 2008 that I am at the point of knowing I can lose someone I really liked. I never had these thoughts of failure and lack of action to save anything. Mabye it's because I really can't save anything that is based on someone else's decision. The point here as I heard a song sing is what exactly is success. I know it seems I went off the subject but how is that peopled are judged by their big accomplishments or their far out goals when there are people everywhere that are failing. In the gospels success is measured by who humble themselves and has a sense of unworthiness about their life. It's not true success as people know it but the important factor here is what is inside each of us. As Jesus said out of the heart proceeds evil thoughts. Who are we? Can we change? Can we all treat each other better? It's all based on our inner choices. As Paul said those that are led by the Spirit are the children of God.
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