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why is soccer just such a gay activity? Apr 27, 2008 4:29 am
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Its ok for women to play soccer, but any man that would allow his son to play soccer needs to be taken out back to the woodshed and flogged. Caned even.

There is nothing more emasculating than playing soccer if you are a man. We will just have to presume you can not participate athletically in real sports such as football, basketball, baseball, tennis, rugby ...you name it. A game of athleticism that takes real skills.
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Cant wait for football season now. Apr 27, 2008 4:23 am
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The worst part of the year is the NFL off season. It is a long stretch in between February and July.Yeah there is a little fill in with Baseball and Basketball but nothing keeps the juices flowing like NFL and College Football.

On the 8th day God Created NFL Football.

Yeah Tennis is ok here and there.

Golf is ok to play, but watching it is unbearable.

soccer? Its not a sport at all. It is for people that can not participate in an actual athletic event. Its a homosexual activity.
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very good draft so far Apr 27, 2008 4:18 am
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we traded down into the 2nd round and got Jordy Nelson who looks fantastic. Then Brian Brohm with our 2nd 2nd round pick. Then it was capped off with Patrick Lee. I am very happy.
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The Protestant Reformers Were Frauds Apr 26, 2008 7:39 am
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Martin Luther was not a great reformer like the history books teach, but he was a fraud!

Here are some quotes from Luther which shows that he taught the heresy of Once Saved Always Saved:

"Be a sinner and sin boldly, but believe and rejoice in Christ even more boldly for he is victorious over sin, death, and the world. As long as we are here in this world we have to sin. This life is not a dwelling place of righteousness"

"No sin will separate us from the lamb, even though we commit fornication and murder a thousand times a day."

"Whenever the devil harasses you, seek the company of men or drink more, or joke and talk nonsense, or do some other merry thing. Sometimes we must drink more, sport, recreate ourselves, and even sin a little to spite the devil, so that we leave him no place for troubling our consciences with trifles. We are conquered if we try too conscientiously not to sin at all. So when the devil says to you: do not drink, answer him: I will drink, and right freely, just because you tell me not to."

"The imputation of righteousness we need very much, because we are far from perfect. As long as we have this body, sin will dwell in our flesh. Then, too, we sometimes drive away the holy spirit; we fall into sin, like Peter, David, and other holy men. Nevertheless we may always take recourse to this fact, that our sins are covered, and that God will not lay them to our charge. Sin is not held against us for Christ's sake."

"your sin cannot cast you into hell"

"No sin can harm me"

LUTHER WAS AN ANTI-SEMITE

Here are some quite shocking quotes from Luther which show that he was a rabid anti-Semite:

"The Jews deserve to be hanged on gallows, seven times higher than ordinary thieves"

"We ought to take revenge on the Jews and kill them."

"The blind Jews are truly stupid fools"

"Now just behold these miserable, blind, and senseless people."

"eject them forever from this country"

"they are nothing but thieves and robbers"

"What then shall we do with this damned, rejected race of Jews?"

"Such a desperate, thoroughly evil, poisonous, and devilish lot are these Jews"

"They are the real liars and bloodhounds"

"We are at fault for not slaying them."

"I shall give you my sincere advice: first to set fire to their synagogues or schools and to bury and cover with dirt whatever will not burn, so that no man will ever again see a stone or cinder of them."

"Second, I advise that their houses also be razed and destroyed."

"Fifth, I advise that safe-conduct on the highways be abolished completely for the Jews."

"Burn down their synagogues, forbid all that I enumerated earlier, force them to work, and deal harshly with them"

"If this does not help we must drive them out like mad dogs"

"If I had to baptize a Jew, I would take him to the river Elbe, hang a stone around his neck and push him over with the words `I baptize thee in the name of Abraham'."

Martin Luther was not a Christian man, but, instead, he was a brutal man who persecuted the Jews unmercifully.

The word of God calls Martin Luther a liar:

1John 4:20- If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?

LUTHER CONDONED THE DEATHS OF A 100,000 PEASANTS

The peasants of Germany revolted in 1525 because of their miserable living conditions and were slaughtered at the behest of Martin Luther!

Here is a quote from Luther that will send chills up your spine:

"They should be knocked to pieces, strangled and stabbed, secretly and openly, by everybody who can do it, just as one must kill a mad dog!"

Are these the words of a Christian and a great reformer? I think not! Luther was an evil man who urged the slaughter of the poor who had revolted. He told people to knock the peasants to pieces and strangle and stab them. 100,000 German peasants were horribly slaughtered in the revolt!

JOHN CALVIN WAS A MURDERER

Not only was the founder of Calvinism, John Calvin, a great deceiver, but he was also a murderer!

Here are John Calvin's own words about Michael Servetus:

"If he(Servetus) comes(to Geneva), I shall never let him go out alive if my authority has weight."

"I hope that the verdict will call for the death penalty."

In Geneva, on October 27, 1553, Michael Servetus was tied to a stake and was burned slowly to death:

Here is what John Calvin had to say about Michael Servetus after he was burned to death:

"Many people have accused me of such ferocious cruelty that(they allege) I would like to kill again the man I have destroyed. Not only am I indifferent to their comments, but I rejoice in the fact that they spit in my face."

"Whoever shall now contend that it is unjust to put heretics and blasphemers to death will knowingly and willingly incur their very guilt."

John Calvin was not a Christian, my friends, but he was an egotistical tyrant and a cold-blooded killer!

How anyone can follow the warped teachings of this deranged monster from the past is beyond belief.

A man named Sebastian Castellio wrote against what Calvin did to Servetus and he made this tremendous statement:

"To kill a man is not to defend a doctrine. It is to kill a man!"

Castellio paid a great price for standing up to Calvin the tyrant. He was hounded and persecuted by John Calvin until his death.

Murderers like John Calvin and Martin Luther are not Christians:

1 John 3:15- ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.

For more on Calvin see Calvinism and The Servetus Murder

In five years, 1542-46, Geneva, with 16,000 inhabitants, had fifty-seven executions and seventy-six banishments. All these sentences were sanctioned by John Calvin.

Let's take a look at the two so-called great reformers of the protestant reformation:

1. Martin Luther was a false teacher, a racist, a persecutor and a murderer!

2. John Calvin was a false teacher, a deranged tyrant, a persecutor and a murderer!

The Protestant Reformation was a farce!

THE PROTESTANT `REFORMERS' PERSECUTED, TORTURED AND SLAUGHTERED THE ANABAPTISTS

Link to true accounts of how the Anabaptists were TORTUREd and murdered at the hands of the Protestants:

"The Martyrs Mirror"


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Marking Time Apr 26, 2008 7:33 am
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by Gary and the Calvinist jokes were his too

Cast:
Simon Peter; John; James; Mary Magdalene. Mary Mag has a notepad and pen.
All General hubbub

Peter OK. Can I draw this meeting to order. A meeting of the Apostles’ Standing Committee, Peter as lay chairman, James and John – churchwardens. Mary Magdalene secretary. Treasurer..... oh, we’ll come to that.

Mary How come I’ve got to be the secretary? It’s ‘cos I’m a woman, isn’t it? You don’t get Peter being the secretary. Oh no. He’s got to be the chair-man.

Peter Moving on.

Mary OK, so what’s the date? I can’t cope with this new-fangled Roman calendar.

James Sunday after Ascension, AD 30.

John AD? What’s that all about, Jim?

James Dunno, bruv. It’s just the date.

Peter Well, I’m sure you all know why we’re here.

John Is it to talk about what’s happened over the last few weeks? Amazing or what!

Mary Jesus coming back to life like that.

James Walking through walls.

John Sharing bread and fish with us.

Peter Well, it’s not strictly like that…

Mary So it’s about last Thursday.

John Jesus going up to heaven again?

James Yeah, out of this world.

Mary Literally.

Peter No. It’s not that either.

John, James & Mary So what is it then?

Peter Well isn’t it obvious? We no longer have a treasurer. Judas having, so to speak, relinquished the post. We need a new one.

Mary So with all the stuff that we’ve seen, all we’ve been through, all the great things that Jesus did – you want to appoint a new treasurer?

Peter Of course. You can’t function without a treasurer.

James But we should be telling people about Jesus.

John Sharing the good news.

Mary Making disciples of all nations.

Peter That’s all very well. They’re great aspirations. But you can’t run a church without money. How are you going to pay for the leaflets to put through people’s doors? Who’s going to chair the stewardship committee? Now I think we have two outstanding candidates in Matthias and Barsabbas, and I’d like to put them to the church to vote for the new treasurer.

Mary Vote?

James What’s vote? Sounds very Greek to me

John Not how we do things around here. Can we do spuds instead?

(Holds hands up for “one potato”)

Peter OK, in best Hebrew practice, straight after the meeting we’ll draw lots. Now – Any Other Business?

John Well, just that next Sunday will be Pentecost. Will we be doing something special?

Peter I don’t think so. After the six weeks we’ve had – the last thing we want is a load of song and dance about Pentecost. OK, meeting over. See you all in the “Loaves and Fishes” for a quick one?


(Exeunt)
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And a final teaser.... how hard would a qualification in Theology be for a Calvinist if Apr 26, 2008 7:31 am
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And a final teaser.... how hard would a qualification in Theology be for a Calvinist if all the questions were multiple-choice?

What would the instructions say - "Only put a tick against the answer you are intended to think it is..
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What do you call a Calvinist ex-prisoner? Apr 26, 2008 7:29 am
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- A Reformed character.
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How do you confuse a Calvinist? Apr 26, 2008 7:26 am
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Offer them three cakes and say it's up to them which one they eat.
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Calvinism Critiqued by a Former Calvinist Apr 26, 2008 4:18 am
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by Steve Jones



Contents

Introduction

I. Total Inability

The Genesis Account

Original Perfection?

Total Inability and the Gospel

The Hardened Heart

Alleged Scripture Proofs

Faulty Application

II. Unconditional Election

Arminian Election

Election a Mystery

III. Particular Redemption

Universal vs. Limited Atonement

IV. Efficacious Grace

The New Birth, Conversion

V. Final Perseverance

Conditional Promises

Apostasy Texts

Conclusion
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DIVINE SOVEREIGNTY AND HUMAN FREEDOM Apr 26, 2008 4:15 am
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By W. T. Purkiser, Richard S. Taylor, Willard H. Taylor



The following is from the book by W. T. Purkiser, Richard S. Taylor, Willard H. Taylor, God, Man, and Salvation, chapter: Old Testament Ethics, Kansas City: Beacon Hill, copyright 1977.



III. DIVINE SOVEREIGNTY AND HUMAN FREEDOM

The Old Testament assumes that right conduct is within the power of man. He may repent, wash his hands of the blood of violence, help the widow and the orphan, substitute justice for bloodshed, and shape his life to please his divine Lord.

Just as the Bible balances the collective and individual aspects of human life, it balances the sovereignty of God and the freedom of man. The sovereign will of God establishes the limits and consequences of human choice. But within those limits and in the light of those consequences, that same sovereignty guarantees the responsibility of human choice.

The sovereignty of God is not arbitrary. God does what He pleases, but what He pleases is right and morally good. Both the sovereignty of God and the responsibility of man are recognized clearly by Old Testament writers. Schultz writes:

"The most difficult side of this question is to understand the relation of the divine activity to personal beings conscious of their own actions. Piety demands such an emphasizing of God's action as would logically take away man's freedom. Moral consciousness, on the other hand, demands a freedom which, looked at by itself, would exclude all divine co-operation and order. It may be impossible for philosophy to solve this contradiction, based, as it is, on the inability of finite thought to comprehend a divine activity that works in a way unlike anything in the present world. But the Old Testament knows nothing of this dividing gulf--or, indeed, of this whole difficulty--as invariably is the case with simple faith. It holds fast to the moral claim. The emphasis it lays upon moral duty, and the prominence it gives to the responsibility which every one has for his own destiny, are clear enough proofs of this.

What is not stated in so many words is everywhere assumed throughout the Old Testament. Men are commanded to choose. They are treated as morally responsible. While their freedom is a freedom within limits, and the limits are drawn by the divine will, the freedom within those limits is real. As Albert C. Knudson wrote, "Had the Hebrew felt it necessary to choose between human freedom, on the one hand, and the divine sovereignty on the other, it is possible that his choice might have fallen on the latter. But no such necessity presented itself to his mind."



A. The Symbolism of Sovereign and Subjects

While there was no attempt at reconciling the terms of the paradox, the Hebrew concept of God as King is helpful. That God is King even when His rule is not recognized (2 Chron. 20:6; Ps. 22:2 is a fact asserted some 50 times in the Old Testament, most frequently in the Psalms (5:2; 44:4; 68:24; 74:12,843,98.6,145.1, cf. I Sam. 12.12, Isa. 33:22; 43:15; Ezek. 20:33). Although God is particularly Israel's King, in truth His kingdom is worldwide: "Thine, 0 Lord, is the greatness, and the power, and the glory, and the victory, and the majesty; for all that is in the heavens and in the earth is thine; thine is the kingdom, 0 Lord, and thou art exalted as head above all. Both riches and honor come from thee, and thou rulest over all" (I Chron. 29:11-12; cf. Dan. 2:44; 4:31, 34).

The Oriental monarch was an absolute sovereign. Yet often he had to deal with rebellious subjects. Sovereignty was not conceived in the fashion of a puppeteer with his puppets or a mechanic with a robot but in terms of a king and his people. The ruler who can overcome rebellion and win the love and loyalty of his people is more truly sovereign than one who could control puppets.



B. Freedom and Responsibility

God's sovereignty is such that He uses the free and responsible choices of men to work His purposes in human life. An early example of this is found in the story of Joseph. When Joseph was made known to his brothers, he said to them concerning their betrayal of him: "As for you, you meant evil against me; but God meant it for good, to bring it about that many people should be kept alive, as they are today" (Gen. 50:20).

Pharaoh in his confrontation with Moses acted on his own in hardening his heart (Exod. 8:15, 32; 9:34). As a result, it was said that Pharaoh's heart "was hardened" (7:14, 22; 8:19; 9, 35) and "God hardened" Pharaoh's heart (7:3;9:12; 10:1,20,27; 14:4,. These are three ways of describing the same fact. But God said He would use Pharaoh's decision "to show . . . my power, so that my name may be declared throughout all the earth" (Exod. 9:16).

The Assyrians were driven by their own lust for plunder and power, and their choices were consciously their own (Isa. 10). Yet they were the rod of God's anger, the axe and the saw in His hand, working out His moral purposes in the history of Israel (vv. 5-6, 12, 15).

"The wrath of man" is man's own wrath, and for its results he is fully responsible. Yet the sovereign God causes that wrath to "praise" (derived from a Hebrew root which also means "confess" or "serve") Him (Ps. 76:10).

Such passages as these have been interpreted in favor of an arbitrary sovereignty on the part of God exercised without respect to human choice. These, together with similar expressions in the New Testament, rather describe "the law of habit-the law that a good man grows better and a bad man worse through his right or wrong choice-and this is a law God has imposed on man." Likewise, the acted parable of the potter and the clay (Jer. 18:1-6) simply shows that God can remake a disobedient people-otherwise the potter would have made the marred vessel as marred.



C. God Is Lord of All

That God is the ruling Lord "is the one fundamental statement in the theology of the Old Testament. . . . Everything else derives from it." It is for this reason that the relationship between God and man in the Bible is "the relation between command and obedience. It is a relation of wills: the subjection of the ruled to the will of the ruler."

Leon Roth noted that it has become fashionable to speak of the relationship between God and man as that of a dialogue. At least it should be recognized that the "dialogue" is not the idle conversation of a social occasion. "It is rather a call, even a calling to account; and it is curious to observe from the record how some of those called upon found it in terror and suffering and how some, for varying reasons, tried to evade it."

In the exercise of His sovereignty, it is to be noted that God permits what He does not necessarily purpose. He allows what He does not intend. But even the evil God permits is not "running loose." It is under control. The conviction expressed by Paul in Rom. 8:28 is true of the writers of the Old Testament: "We know that in everything God works for good with those who love him, who are called according to his purpose.

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