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KING OF BABYLON ,KING OF TYRE, ANTI CHRIST Nov 9, 2008 5:50 am
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Two of Antichrist’s most salient titles—and the ones which affect the end-times’ scenario in the most radical and universal manner—are those which demonstrate his hegemonic control over earth’s people and resources.

The ominous titles attributed to the final end-times’ Antichrist are those of the KING OF BABYLON and the PRINCE or KING OF TYRE—the first dealing with political/military hegemony and the latter of universal commercial dominance. Today’s USA, according to conservative political pundit Charles Krauthammer, is the world’s first “Commercial Empire” however, we beg to differ with Mr. Krauthammer in that the ancient Canaanites (Semitic), Phoenicians (Greek) and/or Punic peoples (Latin) of these ancient Mediterranean peoples were precisely such an empire! Only the Romans subdued and absorbed their commercial expertise into the Empire that was Rome around 200 B.C.

But what the Hebrew prophets saw and foresaw was the spiritual dynamic and personage BEHIND the King of Babylon and the King of Tyre. The pronouncements found in Ezekiel 26 through 28 see the “morphing” of an earthly figure into the cosmic personage of Satan himself—for when we arrive at Ezekiel 28:16 we read: “By the abundance of your (i.e., the King of Tyre’s) trading you became filled with violence within, and you sinned; therefore I cast you as a profane thing out of the mountain of God; and I destroyed you, O covering cherub, from the midst of the fiery stones.”

Likewise, the political aspirations of the King of Babylon not only witnessed the realities of the Neo-Babylonian King but of that awful and future leader that shall come—and behind this King is the very ruler of that final end-times’ Image seen in the Book of Daniel; to wit:

“Take up this proverb against the King of Babylon, and say: ‘How the oppressor has ceased, the golden city ceased!’ . . . Hell from beneath is excited about you, to meet you at your coming; it stirs up the dead for you, all the chief ones of the earth; it has raised up from their thrones all the kings of the nations . . . how you are fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How you are cut down to the ground, you who weakened the nations! For you have said in your heart: ‘I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God; I will also sit on the mount of the congregation on the farthest sides of the north; I will ascend above the heights of the clouds, I will be like the Most High.’ Yet you shall be brought down to Sheol, to the lowest depths of the Pit” (Isaiah 14:4, 9, 12-14)

in Revelation chapter 18 (the King of Tyre—Commercial Babylon) and Revelation chapter 19 (Political/Civil Babylon) that the Scriptures highlight their demise for behind the “administration” of the GREAT CITY BABYLON is the King of Babylon, and behind the commercial aspirations of Babylon that Great City that “traffics in the bodies and souls of men”—is the very King of Tyre and his hideously exploitive economic system that dominates the entire earth to the extent that none can “buy nor sell” without the mark of the Beast.

The seminal Scriptures of Isaiah 14 (King of Babylon) and Ezekiel 28 (King of Tyre) unveil the future judgments of these fiendish figures of Death and War (Babylon) and of Commerce and Exploitation (Tyre). Let us read further of Isaiah’s cosmic metamorphosis of this figure:

"All the kings of the nations, all of them, sleep in glory, everyone in his own house; but you are cast out of your grave like an ABOMINABLE BRANCH, like the garment of those who are slain . . . I will break THE ASSYRIAN in My land, and on My mountains tread him underfoot . . . . This is the purpose that is purposed against the whole earth, and this is the hand that is stretched out over all the nations" (Isa. 14:18-19a, 25-27)

These passages reveals that Satan himself is behind the morphed figure of the King of Babylon,who is also revealed as the Abominable Branch, Lucifer, Son of the Morning (Day Star), and as The Assyrian. Surely, Antichrist,that final figure of the End Times, who shall make ultimate "war against the saints" as the Son of Perdition, THE BEAST—is exposed throughout Scripture under many names and titles as counterfeits of the person and work of our Lord Jesus Christ our promised Deliverer and Messiah.

His highest designations are invested within "King of Babylon" and his end-times’ network of terror and war, "Who is like the beast? Who is able to make war with him?" (Rev. 13:4b)

The "King of Babylon" is the political/administrative and military leader of "Babylon the Great." The combination of these two titles is most disconcerting in that the amalgamation of the political (King of Babylon) with the commercial (King of Tyre) brings to our attention of how the “merchants of the earth” are intimately involved with political leadership, and visa versa.

A closer examination of these titles in the Hebrew Scriptures conclusively proves that both of these figures "morph" into cosmic beings they transform from ordinary earthly rulers of Babylon and Tyre into far more universal characters whose true identity is more than obvious. Satan ( Lucifer, the Morning Star, the Covering Cherub, the Profane Thing), is clearly portrayed as King of Babylon and King of Tyre,make no doubt about it, the one in whom INIQUITY has been found!

The Antichrist I John 2:22

The Man of Sin, Son of Perdition-II Thess. 2:3

The Lawless One-II Thess. 2:8 (R.V.), vs. 9

The Beast-Rev. 11: 7

The Bloody and Deceitful Man-Psalm 5:6

The Wicked One-II Thess. 2:8

The Man of the Earth-Psalm 10:18

The Enemy-Psalm 55:3

The Adversary-Psalm 74-8-10

The Head Over Many Countries-Psalm 110:6

The Violent Man-Psalm 140:1

The Assyrian-Isa. 10:5 & 12

The King of Babylon-Isa. 14:4

The Son of the Morning-Isa. 14:12

The Abominable Branch-Isa. 14:19

The Spoiler-Isa. 16:4

The Nail-Isa. 22:25

The Branch of the Terrible Ones-Ezk. 21:25-27

The King of Tyre-Ezk. 28:12

The Little (i.e., "Younger") Horn-Daniel 7:8

The Coming Prince-Dan. 9:26

The Vile Person-Dan. 11:21

The Willful King-Dan 11:36

The Idol Shepherd-Zech 11:16-17

The Angel of the Bottomless Pit-Rev. 9:11




Tribulation Min.
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USA AND THE EC The New Transatlantic Agenda Nov 9, 2008 5:21 am
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The EU and the USA established diplomatic relations as early as 1953, but it was only in November 1990 that the cooperation was formalized for the first time with the Transatlantic Declaration.

Since December 1995, the New Transatlantic Agenda has provided the foundation for the relationship.

The ambitious agenda of cooperation between the EU and the US is taken forward via constant, intensive dialogue. This dialogue takes place at various levels, from the annual summit meetings between EU and US Leaders to technical work at expert level.

Within the framework of the NTA and in line with the Transatlantic Economic Partnership launched in 1998, the Transatlantic Economic Council was created in 2007 to take forward efforts to boost the transatlantic economy. Together, the EU and the USA have the largest bilateral trade and investment relationship in the world, roughly 40% of the world trade and over 60% of the world GDP. In keeping with the evolving political and legal personality of the EU, there is active cooperation across a host of sectors: cooperation in justice and home affairs, energy and energy security, environment, science & technology, education & training ECT

The New Transatlantic Agenda

1. Promoting Peace And Stability, Democracy And Development Around The World
2. Responding To Global Challenges
3. Contributing To The Expansion Of World Trade And Closer Economic Relations
4. Building Bridges Across The Atlantic
5. Parliamentary links
6. Implementing our Agenda
We, the United States of America and the European Union, affirm our conviction that the ties which
bind our people are as strong today as they have been for the past half century. For over fifty years,
the transatlantic partnership has been the leading force for peace and prosperity for ourselves and
for the world. Together, we helped transform adversaries into allies and dictatorships into
democracies. Together, we built institutions and patterns of cooperation that ensured our security
and economic strength. These are epic achievements.
Today we face new challenges at home and abroad. To meet them, we must further strengthen ........

TO READ FURTHER GO TO EUROPEAN MISSION AND FOREIGN RELATIONS
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WHO IS ABLE TO MAKE WAR WITH THE BEAST? (part #2) Nov 8, 2008 7:48 pm
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God has his timing, and just as surely as all of the events came together for the first coming of our Lord Jesus exactly as prophesied, they will just as surely happen prior to his Second Coming. There is a convergence of events.

Israel is back in the land and Jerusalem is the capital.

The sole superpower in the world happens to be Israel’s closest ally.

Daniel 11:40-45 makes it clear that the antichrists armies are positioned in the region (and USA just happens to be in Iraq)

All of the countries are lined up for the Gog-Magog War.

"Who is like the beast? Who is able to make war with him?" (Revelation 13:4)

The United States of America spends as much on its military as the rest of the world combined The U.S. military budget is eight times China’s, the second largest spender. The US military budget is more than 29 times as large as the combined spending of the seven “rogue” states (Cuba, Iran, Iraq, Libya, North Korea, Sudan and Syria) who spent $14.4 billion, four times more than China and Russia and three times more than all of Europe combined.

You can read up on the Department of Defense and see how far advanced American weaponery is compared to other nations. If you check today, you will see that the military is moving away from grunt soldiers toward armed robots, unmanned ground and aerial vehicles, laser guided weapons, ceramic armor, smart weapons using artificial intelligence, etc. USA technology makes the military capability of other countries look stone age in comparison. In addition, USA has airspace weapons systems, indirect fire systems and all kinds of new weaponry the world can not even conceive of.

The United States has 12 world class aircraft carriers and each is a four acre floating airbase that accomodates 80 aircraft. You will notice from the table that the U.S. has over 1 million tons of displacement, more than the rest of the world’s 18 aircraft carriers combined. Russias largest is only 59,000 tons two thirds the size of America’s smallest carrier.

There are eight operational and two Nimitz-class carriers under construction. The Nimitz Class aircraft carriers are the largest warships ever built. With over 6,000 personnel (crew and aircrew), the carrier has a displacement of 102,000 tons, and a flight deck length of over 1000 feet These are floating battle stars with the latest in aircraft, missiles, and electronics.

America has 350,000 soldiers deployed in 700 bases in 130 countries around the world. Chalmers Johnson notes that,

“As distinct from other peoples, most Americans do not recognize -- or do not want to recognize -- that the United States dominates the world through its military power. Due to government secrecy, our citizens are often ignorant of the fact that our garrisons encircle the planet. This vast network of American bases on every continent except Antarctica actually constitutes a new form of empire -- an empire of bases with its own geography not likely to be taught in any high school geography class. Without grasping the dimensions of this globe-girdling Baseworld, one can't begin to understand the size and nature of our imperial aspirations or the degree to which a new kind of militarism is undermining our constitutional order…Our military deploys well over half a million soldiers, spies, technicians, teachers, dependents, and civilian contractors in other nations... Some of these bases are so gigantic they require as many as nine internal bus routes for soldiers and civilian contractors to get around inside the earthen berms and concertina wire.”

At the same time as USA is closing bases in the United States, they are expanding around the world to the Muslim countries south of Russia (all of the …”stans”), Iraq, Eastern Europe, etc. The military refers to these bases as “footprint” in the world, and many of the smaller bases are called “lily pads” – “to which our troops could jump like so many well-armed frogs from the homeland, our remaining NATO bases, or bases in the docile satellites of Japan and Britain.” Chalmers

America is an extension of Europe in language, culture, history and law. USA is the apex of Western Civilization. It may well be that conquering Christian nation that no one in the world can stand against. USA may be the little horn of Daniel, having grown out of the ten, ripping the three that colonized us out (the English, French and Spanish) and now dominate the whole World as the only superpower with the will and the way!

So what does this say to American Christians that their country could be the evil empire of the last days? That very well could be, and if that is the case, the deception will be far worse in the heart of that darkness. Apostasy means falling away implying a church that once had the truth and lost it. So is it possible that the American church is epitomized in the description of the Church of Laodicea (Revelation 3:14-22), a church that thinks it has it all and really doesnt? How deceiving would it be for the American Christian who thinks America is a force for truth, justice and democracy taking the world for Christ and the church by vanquishing the evil godless dictatorships of the world? What if things are not as they seem? Recognizing deception and apostasy may be more difficult than you think!

Tibulation Min.[/I]
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THE LITTLE HORN ....MODERN DAY BABYLON....USA (PART #1) Nov 8, 2008 7:06 pm
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Most Bible scholars agree that the fourth beast in Daniel 7 represents the last great kingdom on earth,(the revived Roman Empire. Many also believe that the ten horns represents ten nations that at one time made up the core of the Holy Roman Empire. But few have a good explanation as to who the “little horn” represents. Yes, he is the antichrist, but he is more than a person, because he represents a great nation that makes war with the saints and the nations of the earth, the same who makes a covenant with Israel in Daniel 9:27. Who is that nation? Who is that younger horn that makes war against the nations?This little horn, out of which the antichrist comes is the same one who makes war with the saints of the Most High. It is America.

"After this I saw in the night visions, and behold, a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, exceedingly strong. It had huge iron teeth; it was devouring, breaking in pieces, and trampling the residue with its feet. It was different from all the beasts that were before it, and it had ten horns. I was considering the horns, and there was another horn, a little one, coming up among them, before whom three of the first horns were plucked out by the roots. And there, in this horn, were eyes like the eyes of a man, and a mouth speaking pompous words.

"Then I wished to know the truth about the fourth beast, which was different from all the others, exceedingly dreadful, with its teeth of iron and its nails of bronze, which devoured, broke in pieces, and trampled the residue with its feet.I was watching; and the same horn was making war against the saints, and prevailing against them, until the Ancient of Days came, and a judgment was made in favor of the saints of the Most High, and the time came for the saints to possess the kingdom.
Thus he said:

The fourth beast shall be A fourth kingdom on earth,
Which shall be different from all other kingdoms,
And shall devour the whole earth,
Trample it and break it in pieces.
The ten horns are ten kings
Who shall arise from this kingdom.
And another shall rise after them;
He shall be different from the first ones,
And shall subdue three kings.
He shall speak pompous words against the Most High,
Shall persecute the saints of the Most High,
And shall intend to change times and law.

This “little horn” happens to be the prophetic Babylon.
When the Europeans spread throughout the earth, there were some areas that didn’t have large indigenous populations (or they were killed) where Europeans colonized and transferred their people, language, institutions. We shouldn’t be locked in by narrow geographic concepts but should look for nations that are “extensions” of Europe abroad.

Which nation colonized by Europe grew to become the most powerful of all? And which nation uprooted three other nations (horns) during the colonization process ? (it should be pointed out that uprooting doesn’t mean killing but just removing them) What three nations colonized America? The English colonized the east coast. The French controlled the center of the country which was by far the largest portion, from Louisiana to Canada. The Spanish colonized the west from Texas to California.

The English were removed by the Revolutionary War, the French by the Louisiana Purchase and the Spanish by the Mexican American War. This left the United States one nation indivisible “from sea to shining sea.”

After World War II most of the world from Europe to Asia was in ruins. The United States emerged as the greatest militarily power on earth. The USSR poked around the edges of America and were a threat because of their nuclear capability and missiles but all that ended with the break up of their empire and the fall of the Soviet Union in 1989. This left America as the sole superpower on earth.

America has emergenced as the world power and the spread of its commercial and military influence throughout the world. The United States participated as a member of the global community in various UN actions such as Korea, Kosovo and even the first Gulf war. After 9/11 and with the invasion of Iraq it moved from a policy of nonintervention and coalitions to aggressive preemptive war. As Chalmers Johnson says,

“From the moment we took on a role that included the permanent military domination of the world, we were on our own feared, hated, corrupt and corrupting, maintaining “order” through state terrorism and bribery, and given to meglomanic rhetoric and sophistries that virtually invited the rest of the world to unite against us”. (The Sorrows of Empire, p. 284)

Many Christians around the world are oblivious to the danger coming to America right now. Most are watching the emergence of the European Union as fulfilling Bible prophecy, because they believe that's where the Anti-Christ is going to emerge from. However that may not be the case.

Revelation 17:15-18 - "...the waters you saw, where the prostitute was seated are peoples, multitudes, nations, and languages. The 10 horns you saw, and the beast, will hate the prostitute. They will make her desolate and naked, devour her flesh, and burn her up with fire. For God has put it into their hearts to carry out His plan by having one purpose, and to give their kingdom to the beast until God's words are accomplished. And the woman you saw is the great city that has an empire over the kings of the earth."

(Excerpts from Tribulation min)

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THE BEAST OF REVELATION (PART #5 ) Nov 8, 2008 12:43 am
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As we have seen, history follows in the fore steps of prophecy, testifying that the eastern leg of Rome itself continued on from the Byzantine to the Ottoman Empire. No Bible believer should be surprised that these various divisions and fragmentations of the Roman Empire show up in history. For they were first recorded in prophecy.

The statue of Daniel 2, in its Roman "legs," which represent the first division into east and west Rome during the fifth century, continues to shatter into "iron and clay" parts, not only in the feet stage, but in the "toes" stage, and then further into 10 toes. These dividing stages are also evident in Daniel's beasts in chapter 7, where Rome sprouts 10 king-kingdoms matching the 10 toes of chapter 2, and then further sprouts an 11 king-kingdom (the Antichrist) matching the "8th Head" of Revelation 17:11. But in both Daniel and Revelation, Rome, the 4th beast and the 6th Head-never ceases to be Rome.

We see then, that from what we know of the Greek 4Headed "Template," the rise of a subsequent Head-or Mountain-Kingdom- as a sub-sector of the Roman Empire, is not only a cut out of the Grecian mold of Daniel chapter 7, but is a fact of history. The Ottoman Empire did not replace Rome. It perpetuated the eastern half-the "Grecian," territory and culture of Rome. The Ottoman Empire filled the void left by the decline and fall of the Byzantine Empire.

The Ottoman Empire, the 7th Head, the 7th Mountain-Kingdom, existed within the fragmented but perpetual Roman Empire as both a phase of the old empire and a link to the coming Revived Roman Empire, just as the 4 Head-Kingdoms of Greece perpetuated that empire as a single "beast-kingdom." The Ottoman Empire did not supplant Daniel's 4th and final Mountain-Kingdom- or Revelation's 6th and final Mountain-Kingdom. The prophecies do not allow it. History does not support it.

Who Are The 10 Horns?

We have seen that from early on, the breakup of the Roman Empire resulted in 5 dominant states emerging in the west from the Germanic invaders. There appeared in the western empire what has been called a 'horizontal' continuing division' which was to remain in other forms until our own time. In Germany, England, France, Spain and northern Italy, barbarian kings ruled, although the sense of belonging to the Roman Empire still existed.

By the ninth century, in the treaties of Verdun and Meersen, these 5 sub-kingdoms, matching the 5 toes of Daniel 2's western leg, had taken on the rough shape of modern Europe. The unity which Rome had imposed was shattered forever. In the West, the Germans had set up new kingdoms- Visigoths in Spain, Franks in Gaul [which, under the Treaty of Verdun in 843, became the forerunner states of France and Germany], Angles and Saxons in Britain, Lombards in Italy. At Meersen (870 AC), the familiar outlines of Europe began to take shape, and thus these five nations came to be the dominant nations of Europe today. They are,

1. Britain
2. France
3. Spain
4. Italy
5. Germany

The dominance of these realms in Europe since the breakup of the Roman Empire, and their eventual evolution into modern states which still exert their collective will on the European Union, fits perfectly well the historical correspondence we would expect. They have set the stage in the western leg for the emergence the 10 Horn-Kings predicted to rise at the end time. But what about the eastern leg? Which nation-states will fulfill the 5 remaining Horns (or toes) in the eastern part of the revived Roman Empire?

First, the 4 Heads on the Grecian leopard in Daniel 7 and the 4 Horns on the Grecian Goat in Daniel 8 refer to the same 4 breakout kingdoms in post-Alexandrian Greece. Thus, both the Heads and the Horns designated the same 4 sub-kingdoms- Greece, Turkey, Syria, and Egypt. Heads and Horns are used interchangeably in the prophecies. Since the emphasis in both Daniel and Revelation is on the eastern half of the Roman Empire (that is, Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia, Greece, and Turkey, all playing a prominent role in the visions of the final Roman beasts, were enshrouded within the eastern realm of Rome), then surely these beast Heads will be represented in their end time stage among the 10 Horns.

Therefore, it is a reasonable expectation, based on the "Greek Template," that the Horns in the east (toes on the eastern leg) will represent those end-time kings who rule over the later day versions of Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia, Greece, and Turkey.

Daniel 8 presupposes just such a configuration. In that passage it is predicted that the 4 Horns of the Grecian goat (again, Greece, Turkey, Syria, and Egypt) will have an encore reign at the end time, even playing a major role in the rise of the Antichrist .The passage refers to "the latter period of their reign." "And the broken horn and the four horns that arose in its place represent four kingdoms [Greece, Turkey, Syria, & Egypt] which will arise from his nation, although not with his power. And in the latter period of their rule..." Daniel 8:22-23

CONSIDER THIS: It is AT THE END TIME THE 4 GRECIAN KINGDOMS REAPPEAR - "understand that the vision concerns the time of the end...I am going to tell you what will happen later in the time of wrath, because the vision concerns the appointed time of the end... In the latter part of their reign...but seal up the vision, for it concerns the distant future." Dan 8:17, 19, 23, 26

Amazingly, these very same kingdoms-Greece, Turkey, Syria, and Egypt- were the dominant breakout kingdoms at the demise of none other than the Ottoman Empire. By the end of World War I Syria, Egypt, and Iraq emerged semi-independent under the British and French mandate system. The wrap up of World War II assured the final status of all of them as sovereign states. The Ottomans conceded Greek independence in 1832. In 1920 the Ottoman empire was dismembered: Syria... Lebanon... Iraq... Palestine... the Hejaz and Armenia... Anatolia... Turkey

In 1923, by the Treaty of Lausanne, Turkey surrendered only her remaining non-Turkish territories (chiefly Arab [Syria, Iraq, Egypt, etc.] ) but retained her Turkish areas: Constantinople and Asia Minor. [modern Turkey] Turkey, no longer an Empire, was now reduced to a national state.

All of this is clearly far more than mere historical coincidence Let's take stock. Ancient Rome splits off in its eastern sector as Byzantine Rome, with Byzantium's mantle passing to the Ottoman Turks (as the 7th Head), which then splinters into dominant states in Greece, Turkey, Syria, and Egypt among several lesser realms.

Add to this lineup of eastern "Horns" those of the required Babylon and Iran (Persia), and there emerges 6 eastern Horns. Isn't this one more than the required 5 Horns, or toes, in the eastern sector of the emerging Revived Roman Empire? Not at all. It's time to count again. Count the Horns in Daniel 7's passage.

And of the ten horns that were in his head, and of the other which came up... Daniel 7:20 There are 10 Horns- plus an 11th- who it turns out comes us subsequently, but contemporaneously, and emerges as the Antichrist.

Thus, there are in fact 10 Horns, plus an 11th, representing in prophecy and in both past and emerging history the following nation-states which will make up the political constituencies of an expanded European Union, or Revived Roman Empire. Represented among these 10 Horns are the 7 Heads, or Mountain-Kingdoms (reckoning the Roman Head as represented in the western leg nations) which join into a single union of nations to form the beast of Revelation:

1. Britain
2. France
3. Spain
4. Italy
5. Germany
6. Greece
7. Turkey
8. Syria
9. Egypt
10. Iraq
11. Iran

The political and geographic landscape looks very familiar today for anyone who has studied these prophecies- He is the God who "removes kings and establishes kings..." Daniel 2:21

PHILLIP GOODMAN
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The Eastern Roman Empire ,,,,Turkish-Ottomans (PART #4) Nov 8, 2008 12:24 am
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The very name of the holy Roman Empire recalled the unity which ancient Rome gave to the classical world fifteen centuries earlier.

The incipient Roman Empire continues today in its western leg in the form of the European Union, with the same 5 nations cited earlier continuing to dominate its existence. These 5 nations, Spain, Britain, France, Italy, and Germany, duplicate in history what the 5 toes on the western leg of the Daniel 2 statue foresaw- 5 dominant kings. Today in the European Union the majority of the voting block in a weighted formula in the European Parliament belongs to precisely these five countries.

In the East, Rome retained its identity as the Mountain-Kingdom (Roman Empire) through the Byzantine Empire. In AD 293, Emperor Diocletian decided, for military and administrative reasons, to shift the center of the Roman Empire to the east. The new state, known as the Byzantine, or Eastern Roman, Empire. The Roman emperor Constantine named his capital [at Byzantium] New Rome. Throughout their history the Byzantines described themselves as Romans, and saw their empire as the continuation, without break, of the Roman Empire. After a thousand years, the Byzantine Empire did not give way to- the Arab-Mohammedans. No. As great as that Islamic Empire was, it was never absorbed into the geographic, political, or cultural environs of the Roman Empire. The Arabs did not qualify as the 7th Head.

Did the Byzantine (Eastern Roman) Empire give way to the other super-kingdom that arose after the glory days of ancient Rome, that of the Mongols. No. For neither did the Mongols qualify as the 7th Head. They too were alien to the Roman sphere of dominance.

In the Eastern Roman Empire, the successor state to Byzantium was Turkey. Not Turkey as we know it today, but Turkey in its glorious reign as the Ottoman Empire. The Ottoman Empire qualified indeed as the 7th Head- the 7th Mountain-Kingdom!

The Turks [Ottomans] were among the great imperial powers of history. Theirs was the last in time and the greatest in extent of the four Middle Eastern empires, following those of the Persians, the Romans, and the Arabs, the Ottoman state was above all else a universal empire. The Ottoman Empire was one of the largest political structures that the western part of the world had known since the Roman Empire disintegrated: it ruled eastern Europe, western Asia and most of the Maghrib, and held together lands with very different political traditions, many ethnic groups- Greeks, Serbs, Bulgarians, Romanians, Armenians, Turks and Arabs, and various religious communities, Sunni and Shi'i Muslims, Christians of all the historic Churches, and Jews. It maintained its rule over most of them for 400 years or so, and over some of them for as many as 600 years.

One and only one kingdom rose to Mountain-Kingdom status after the primacy of the original Roman Empire, and, importantly, within the geographic sphere of that empire, to carry forward the tradition of Rome in the eastern leg- and that is the Turkish-Ottomans. The Ottoman Empire inherited the mantle of the Eastern Roman Empire- the Byzantine Empire- and carried it forward into the 20th century. In 1453 it the Ottoman Empire absorbed what was left of the Byzantine Empire. The Ottomans had changed from a nomadic horde to the heirs of the most ancient surviving empire Byzantium of Europe.

The Ottoman's achievement was to reunite the Byzantine empire under a single sovereign. The Ottoman empire, which reached its height under Suleiman the Magnificent, was far stronger than any European state. They were the missing link among the former Mountain-Kingdoms in the 4 Heads of Greece because their hey-day had "not yet come, and when he comes, he must remain a little while," 470 years to be exact. Turkey, the placeless 4th Head on the Grecian beast of Daniel 7 achieved its Mountain-Kingdom rank to the level of the other 3 Grecian Heads later in history, causing it to become the 7th Head of the Revelation beast. Phillip Goodman
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The 7-Heads-Or Mountain-Kingdoms-in history (part #3) Nov 8, 2008 12:10 am
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Daniel 7's four beasts-kingdoms rule linearly, one after the other successively through time according to Daniel 7:4-7. And, from Daniel's prophetic point in history, there are four and only four human kingdoms predicted to dominate (remember, these 7 Heads are Mountain-Kingdoms) Mesopotamia and the land of Israel before the return of Christ and the establishment of the eternal fifth kingdom.

First, the 4 human Mountain-Kingdoms,

'These great beasts, which are four in number, are four kings who will arise from the earth, Daniel 7:17

Then the 5th, Eternal Mountain-Kingdom,

But the saints of the Highest One will receive the kingdom and possess the kingdom forever, for all ages to come. Daniel 7:18

The Roman Empire, the fourth kingdom, would continue to exist in some form until its fatal encounter with the Kingdom of Christ, the fifth and final kingdom. But here we encounter, in Revelation 17, what at first sight seems to be a problem with the chronological account of the 7 Head-Kingdoms. That passage says,

... they are seven kings [or kingdoms, as we have seen; see Daniel 2:38-39 for king-kingdom dual reference, five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; and when he comes, he must remain a little while. Revelation 17:10

Since the kingdom of Rome is John's reference in this passage, and since we have identified the 7 Head-Kingdoms with those of the 7 Heads in Daniel 7, then if we apply the 5 have fallen (before Rome and John's time) to the Daniel 7 passage, we find that we actually have 6 Heads in Daniel 7 (Babylon, Persia, and the 4 Grecian) that existed before the Roman Headed beast. The solution to this dilemma is again found in our "Greek Template."

First, the Grecian beast (the leopard) is a single kingdom, even though it has multiple Heads (remember, Daniel 7 says there are only four kingdoms, Greece being one). Therefore, the 4 Heads of Greece are sub-kingdoms within a larger kingdom. The prophecy of the Greek Empire, as we've seen, parallels history in this respect. And two of those 4 kingdoms had previously in history qualified as Mesopotamian-ruling, Jew-dominating empires, or Mountain-Kingdoms. Egypt and Syria (Assyria) had already fulfilled that role prior to the rise of Greece. This accounts for the "5 have fallen" prior to Rome

"Five have fallen"

1. Egypt
2. Assyria
3. Babylon
4. Persia
5. Greece

Revelation 17:10 continues on to say "1 is." That of course was Rome. But notice that it continues on to say "1 has not yet come, and when he ["he"= king-kingdom identification] comes, he must remain a little while."

Who is this 7th Head-Kingdom that would be destined to rise to Mountain-Kingdom status after the Roman Empire? Back to the "Greek Template," where we find that the 4th Head-Kingdom, unaccounted for thus far, is Turkey. Turkey at the time that John wrote the "5 have fallen, 1 is, 1 will come" passage had never entered the elite club of Mesopotamian-ruling, Jew-persecuting Mountain-Kingdoms. But later it did- as the super-kingdom known as the Ottoman Empire. They were [in 15-1600s] not only the most important Islamic empire, but the largest & most powerful European state as well.

[Ottoman Persecution of Jews] World War I almost killed the Zionist movement... the Ottoman Empire sided with the Bermans, portending calamity for the Jews. To the Palestinian Jews it spelled physical disaster. Every Jew suspected of sympathy with the Allies- the knowledge of a little English was considered proof of sympathy- was hanged; 12,000 Jews were deported because they were not Turkish [Ottoman] citizens; and Zionism itself was declared illegal."

And that is exactly what is required by the Revelation 17:10 phrase "1 will come," or, more precisely, "one has not yet come, and when he comes, he must remain a little while." Turkey is the Mountain-Kingdom that "will come," the 7th Head of the beast of Revelation. Throughout the sixteenth and early seventeenth centuries, the Ottomans were not only the most important Islamic empire, but the largest and most powerful European state as well. It was the greatest of the modern states."

The rise of the Ottoman Turkish state from a regional power in Asia Minor in the mid-15th century to the greatest empire in Europe and the Middle East by the mid-16th was a dramatic one.

But how can this be when Daniel's fourth beast is the final kingdom? Since Daniel's forth kingdom is Rome, this would also mean that Revelation's sixth Head (Rome) will be the final kingdom! (John looked backward from his perspective in the time of Rome to include not only Daniel's first three kingdoms in reverse time- Greece, Persia, and Babylon, but before Babylon was Egypt and Assyria, Daniel was looking forward beginning with Babylon)

The answer is again found in the Grecian beast (the leopard of Daniel 7). In that passage you have 4 Heads-Kingdoms. Three have shrunk back over time to lose their former dominion as Mountain-Kingdoms (Greece under Alexander, Egypt and Assyria), but not their existence. Therefore, Greece is portrayed as a single Mountain-Kingdom subdivided into 4 parts. It never becomes 4 separate kingdoms. Greece is a single kingdom enveloping 3 additional subkingdoms which still retain their identity- in both prophecy and history, by the way, as Grecian. The picture before us is one of 4 Heads within a single kingdom.

The same will be true with Rome. The Roman Empire, in both prophecy and history, also went, and will go, through a similar process of fragmenting and dividing, while never losing its identity or aspiration as the Roman Empire. Here is that splintering process of the Roman Empire that will persist right up to its final form as a Revived Roman Empire controlled by 10 Kings First, the great Mountain-Kingdom was divided into eastern and western parts, as depicted in the two Roman "legs" on the statue of Daniel 2.

In AD 293, Emperor Diocletian decidedto shift the center of the Roman Empire to the east. The new state, [was] known as the Byzantine, or Eastern Roman Empire. Then the western half divided into 5 parts split up among the Germanic tribes who continued to carry the mantle of Rome. The German rulers saw themselves as the heirs of Rome.

Subsequently Rome continued to retain a semblance of its identity as "Rome" during the era of the great Frankish ruler Charlemagne. Charlemagne unified western Europe & recreated an equivalent of the old Roman Empire...[his coronation by Pope Leo III] made him legally heir to the western Roman emperors.
The Roman tradition of unity had never completely died out. Pope [Leo III] hailed Charlemagne as "Emperor of the Romans. Thus was revived a title which, changed later to "Holy Roman Emperor," was to last until 1806.

The next stage in the perpetuation of the identity of "Rome" in the western leg came through the Holy Roman Empire. The Holy Roman Empire was a successor state to the empire founded in 800 by Charlemagne, who revived the title of Roman Emperor in the West. Phillip Goodman, RAPTURE READY MIN
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Identification Of Heads With Mountains ,With Kingdoms (Part #2) Nov 7, 2008 11:46 pm
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When we look at the four kingdoms of Daniel 7 (with a total of 7 Heads) we find that Babylon is viewed as a Mountain-Kingdom, Greece has split into 4 Head-Kingdoms, Rome has ten kings coming out of a Head-Kingdom, and the whole lineup is followed by the great Mountain-Kingdom of Christ. That is four of the five kingdoms (4 earthly kingdoms, followed by Christ's kingdom), and six of the 7 Heads seen in Daniel 7

Therefore, in revisiting Revelation 17:9-10, a much clearer picture emerges: The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits, and they are seven kings...

The meaning of the Heads is that they are Mountain-Kingdoms-that is, dominant kingdoms- upon the landscape of world history. The 7 Heads are 7 Mountain Kingdoms.

The 4 Kingdoms of Daniel 7 have 7 Heads. They are Babylon, Persia and Greece,which includes 2 former empires, Egypt & Syria (Assyria), & 1 future empire, Turkey (Ottoman Empire)& Rome. All reappear under the 'umbrella' of a re-emergent Rome in the End Time.

What Is The Identification Of The 7 Kingdoms? Remember when we said to count the Heads of the four beasts of Daniel 7? Here is another way to look at it. Take this passage from Revelation 13:1 "And I saw a beast coming up out of the sea, having ten horns and seven heads" insert the word "four beasts" in place of "a beast," and mentally paste it at the end of Daniel 7, verse 3. Here's how it would read:

"And four great beasts were coming up from the sea, different from one another. And I saw [four beasts] coming up out of the sea, having ten horns and seven heads..."

Now, when you take this description of the single beast of Revelation and apply it to the four beast of Daniel, and then read the ensuing descriptions of those four beast, you find four beasts "coming up out of the sea, having ten horns and seven heads." Again, count them. And remember that Revelation 13 applies certain features of the "lion," the "bear," the "leopard," and the 10-Horned fourth beast of Daniel to its own unified beast. The utilization of these same features confirms that the same 7 Heads of Daniel's four beasts are present in Revelation's unified beast.

Therefore, since we know the identification of the Head-Kingdoms of Daniel's four beast, we can apply them to the Revelation beast. The 7 Heads of Revelation's beast are the Head of the Lion (confirmed by "his mouth like the mouth of a lion," v.2), the Bear (required by "his feet like those of a bear," v.2), the Leopard (with his 4 Heads dominating the beast, explaining why the beast "was like a leopard), and Daniel's 10-Horned Beast (since the 10 Horns are said to be on a single head, Daniel 7:20)

The "Mirror Image" Of The Daniel & Revelation Beasts Images

It is clear that the Revelation beast is a mirror image of Daniel's four beast. Daniel's four beasts-kingdoms have been combined into the unified beast of Revelation at the end time. But that is exactly what the prophecies teach. The world's kingdoms will unite into a single Antichrist-kingdom at the end of history. Whereas Daniel foresees his four kingdoms as a series of four snapshots through time, Revelation portrays the same 7-Headed kingdoms united into a single snapshot at the end of time. This is further confirmed in Daniel 2:35. There the four kingdoms depicted in the statue survive in some form throughout history, all four destined to be destroyed at the same time at the end of history.

Since the Revelation beast is a mirror image of Daniel's four beasts, then it follows that we can learn the specific national identities of Revelation's 7-Headed, united kingdom from its "reflected" image in Daniel's 7-Headed, multiple, pre-unification kingdoms, especially when we take stock of our "Greek Template."

The Identity Of The 7 Beast-Heads Of Revelation

CONSIDER THIS: There are 4 beasts in Daniel 7. One of them (the leopard/Greece) has 4 heads. We can surmise the other 3 each have 1 head-a total of 7 heads. Revelation 13 shows a composite beast, which includes all 4 of the Daniel 7 beasts. This beast also has 7 heads, & is said to look "like a leopard," which, as a 4-headed beast, would dominate the appearance of the Revelation beast (along with the 10 horns). Therefore, the 7 heads on the Revelation beast are the same 7 heads that are on the Daniel 7 beasts, & the identity of those heads (kingdoms) are known.

It is generally accepted, with good reason, that the four beasts in both Daniel 2 and 7 represent the kingdoms of Babylon, Media-Persia, Greece, and Rome, in that order, reflecting the order of their appearance. That accounts for four of the 7 Heads. The other 3 Heads are found on the Greek beast. Who are these 3 Head-Kingdoms? Here, fulfilled prophecy, or history, comes to our aid. After the death of Alexander the Great, as many as 13 sub-kingdoms and chiefdoms within his vast empire vied for power. But four dominant sub-kingdoms rose head and shoulders above the rest. These are the 4 Heads of Daniel 7's Grecian beast, and are also represented by the 4 Horns of Daniel 8. These kingdoms, using their geographic and political modern place-names, were,

1. Greece
2. Turkey
3. Syria
4. Egypt

Therefore, the 7 Heads of the Revelation beast, being essentially a mirror image of the 7 Heads of the Daniel 7 beasts, are to be identified as follows:

1. Babylon- the "lion"
2. Persia- the "bear"
3. Greece- the "4-Headed leopard"
4. Turkey
5. Syria (Assyria)
6. Egypt
7. Rome

All of these kingdoms are bound together by three common denominators: They were absorbed into the Roman Empire, they "tread under foot" not only Jerusalem but also the heart of the full Abrahamic-promised land which is Mesopotamia, and they bullied the Jews throughout history. At the end of history they will be united into the single "beast" kingdom of Revelation 13 and 17 to do likewise.

Phillip Goodman, RAPTURE READY MIN
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The Identity Of The 7 Beast-Heads Of Revelation (Part #1) Nov 7, 2008 11:25 pm
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The Beast of Revelation 13 is described as follows:

And I saw a beast coming up out of the sea, having ten horns and seven heads, and on his horns were ten diadems, and on his heads were blasphemous names. Revelation 13:1


The Beast of Revelation represents both a king and a kingdom, But the full meaning of the Beast can only be understood to the extent that we can understand the meaning of the features of the Beast, particularly the 7 Heads and the 10 Horns, which are the most prominent and consistent features according to both Revelation 13 & 17.

We have what amounts to a prophetic and historic template in our quest for the identity of the 7 Heads and 10 Horns. I shall call it the "Greek Template." In Daniel 7 & 8 there are prophecies related to the Greek Empire. In the Daniel 7 prophecy, verse 6 tells of a Beast with 4 Heads.

The prophecy in chapter 8 tells of a Beast having a large broken horn, followed by 4 Horns, followed by a single horn. Conservative prophecy scholars are virtually united in recognizing that both prophecies describe the post-Alexandrian Grecian Empire of the late fourth century BC.

We shall find also that the Heads and Horns of the Revelation Beast relate to empires and rulers. Great light is shed on their meaning by the "Greek Template."

Since most (but not all) of both of those prophecies about the Greek Empire have been fulfilled in history, and since the two prophecies combined apply the symbols of Heads and Horns to the unfolding history of that empire, then it seems reasonable to apply the Biblical and historic information gleaned from these prophecies as a basic "template" to aid in the identification of the Heads and Horns of the Beast of Revelation.

Furthermore, since all of the prophecies of the Bible which have already been fulfilled, from those forecasting the fate of nations and empires to the Messianic prophecies, have been fulfilled just as precisely as predicted, then we should expect to find the same in both the past historical record and the historical "stage-setting" for future fulfillment. The Bible virtually guarantees as much when it says,

"Remember the former things long past, For I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is no one like Me, Declaring the end from the beginning And from ancient times things which have not been done, Saying, 'My purpose will be established, And I will accomplish all My good pleasure'... Truly I have spoken; truly I will bring it to pass. I have planned it, surely I will do it.

Isaiah 46:9-11
We should expect this prophetic precision to be applied specifically to empires and emperors and kings and kingdoms:

And it is He who changes the times and the epochs; He removes kings and establishes kings... Daniel 2:21

Here is my(Phillip Goodman)working thesis. The prophecies of Daniel and Revelation, which present us with such a prominent display of these symbolic "Heads and Horns" to reveal future history, portray for the most part the prophetic unfolding of history in broad and obvious strokes. For instance the statue in Daniel 2, to date, spans 2550 years of history in a relatively few short verses. Therefore we should expect that these predictions would also be broad and obvious in a scan, or "birds-eye" view, of history. Thus, the working out of these prophecies are more likely to rise to the surface in a survey, rather than a detailed study, of world history. And indeed, they do.

"After this I kept looking, and behold, another one, like a leopard, which had on its back four wings of a bird; the beast also had four heads, and dominion was given to it." Daniel 7:6

As previously mentioned, most students of prophecy are agreed that this beast represents the kingdom of Greece after it was divided into four parts following the death of Alexander the Great in 323 BC. This agrees with the prophecy in Daniel 8 which also shows the four fold division of the Greek Empire in the form of 4 Horns on a goat, and specifically identifies Greece (vv. 21-22). In the case of chapter 7's 4-Headed leopard, then, the Heads are kingdoms.

As we survey the four kingdoms of both Daniel 2's statue and Daniel 7's beasts-that is, Babylon, Media-Persia, Greece, and Rome, we find other references which connect the Heads to kingdoms. Where Revelation 17:9-10 says specifically that the 7 Heads of the Beast are "seven mountains on which the woman sits, and they are seven kings," we can let scripture interpret scripture by going to Jeremiah 51:25 and find that the "mountain" described in that passage is actually a kingdom!Specifically Babylon.

Behold, I am against you, O destroying mountain, Who destroys the whole earth," declares the LORD, "And I will stretch out My hand against you, And roll you down from the crags And I will make you a burnt out mountain.

The same result is found when checking out the symbol of the "great mountain" that struck the statue of Daniel 2 and destroyed it. The official interpretation that is given shows it to be the victorious and literal kingdom of Christ in verse 44. Thus the "Mountains" and "Kings" in Revelation 17:910 are seen as Mountain-Kingdoms elsewhere in scripture, with the further connection in the Revelation 17 passage to "Heads."

We continue our search and find a definite identification of beast Heads with beast kingdoms in Daniel 7.

Then I desired to know the exact meaning of the fourth beast... and the meaning of the ten horns that were on its head... Daniel 7:19-20

Connect this verse with its angelic interpretation in verse 24, which says "As for the ten horns, out of this kingdom ten kings will arise..."

There is a very important disclosure here. What is the meaning-rather, the "exact meaning" of the 10 Horns that come out of the Head of the beast (Rome) The answer is given. The Horns are 10 kings that arise out of "this kingdom." Whereas in verse 20 the Horns come out of the beast (obviously his Head), in the explanation the Horns (10 kings) come out of a "kingdom." The Head and the kingdom are equated.

Phillip Goodman, RAPTURE READY MIN
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THE FALSE CHRIST Nov 7, 2008 12:15 pm
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The name Christ is simply the Greek translation of the Hebrew Messiah, whom the Jews expected to come in God's name to save them. The Messiah, or Christ, is the one anointed by God to carry out a God's purposes in God's name. Christ's work is to redeem God's people from sin and death by His own death, and resserection to renew God's chosen as a new creation imputed with Christ's righteousness and kept in heart and mind by God's peace.

Jesus of Nazareth is the Christ. He is God's anointed, the servant of Jehovah. He is anointed to do the work of redeeming God's people and renewing creation. The confession of the true church down through the ages is, "Jesus is the Christ." In other words, Jesus is the anointed of God.

Antichrist is a false Christ. He claims to be anointed by God with the Holy Spirit and claims to be qualified to do the work in God's name of redeeming God's people and renewing the creation.(Saving humanity) But he is not. He is a liar. His claims are false. He is a false Christ.

Antichrist is against and opposed to Jesus Christ. He is in opposition to Christ personally and he is against Christ's true Church. Anti- Christ is against Christ's Word, the bible. (does not adhere to the word of God in truth) Christ's work is to show the name of Jehovah God (the Father)to men by showing Himself to them

Antichrist is opposed to God Himself. The name Antichrist also indicates substitution. Antichrist opposes Jesus in order to supplant Him, to take His place as Christ. Antichrist's purposes to be "in the place of," or "a substitute for" Jesus the Christ.

The bible reveals how Antichrist comes as an impostor of Jesus Christ and how there is a striking outward similarity between Antichrist and Christ:

Jesus Christ be revealed some day. So will Antichrist. Jesus Christ will be in God's temple, ruling as King one day. Antichrist will sit there also. Jesus Christ is God. Antichrist will claim to be God. Jesus Christ supported His claim to be God with signs and wonders and Antichrist, too, will perform signs and wonders. Jesus Christ has a kingdom and so will Antichrist. Jesus Christ comes by the power of the holy Spirit. Antichrist will come by the power of another spirit, the devil himself.

Antichrist will be a particular person. A single individual of who will arise and oppose Jesus Christ by making claims that he isthe Christ, the saviour of mankind, the answer to all their problems. He will say that he has all the solutions and he will decieve many. In fact anti-Christ will be so powerfully deceptive that if it were possibe, he would decieve even God's elect. However, he will not for the lord keeps his sheep and will give them wisdom and understanding in these last days. This anti - Christ will have a partner, the false prophet, who is his spiritual advisor. The false prophet will give power to the beast. The false prophet will be the one showing signs and wonders in order to cause all to worship the beast.

Next blogs I will talk about...... I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.


II Thessalonians 2:2,3

Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not come], except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition. Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

Matthew 24:24,25

For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if [it were] possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Behold, I have told you before.

Revelation 13

And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as [the feet] of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority. And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who [is] like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty [and] two months.

And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

If any man have an ear, let him hear.

He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by [the means of] those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live. And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads

And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number [is] Six hundred threescore [and] six. (666)
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