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Meeting Speeritwoman (Finally) part 1 Jul 13, 2007 1:46 am
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For more then a year now, I have been corresponding with Speeritwoman, (Rev. Barb) via E-mail, telephone, and I.M, and have long ago adopted her as my 2nd of 3 big sisters, and finally met her in person on July 6th. The main backdrop for our meeting was a large national prayer event known as 'The Call.' Put on by Pastor Lou Engle a well respected and radical Charismatic prayer warrior who is frequently featured on 'The Elijah List.'

Pastor Engle's objective was to have 100,000 Christians at the Titan Stadium in Nashville on 07-07-07 to pray and fast for revival, especially for our youth. It was also significant that it was exactly 40 years ago that the Flower child rebellion against God movement began in San Fransisco, one of the major events beginning our current accepting culture of drugs, immoral $ex, abortions, rebellion, and violence.
So 'The Call' was a significant event for believers.
Pastor Engle has hosted several such events before and has more yet planned. This one was about an hour away from where Barb lives, and a very good occasion to meet her, and especially since I had planned to attend this event since February of this year.

Despite the fact that she had been sick all week, she still saw through with us getting together, and I was not disappointed in meeting Barb, and found her to be exactly as she has presented herself in the coarse of the past year.
I let her drive my Saturn since she knows the area, and we had supper at a redneck sort of steak house called Santa Fe Cattle Co. One of those steak houses where you have a bucket of peanuts at the table, and get to drop the shells on the floor.
I asked for an iced tea and the waitress looked at me like I was from another planet. Barb came to my rescue and told the waitress "sweet tea" was what I meant. Just as long as it had ice which it does if you are nice to the waitress.
This was my first real taste of Dixie, and again I wasn't disappointed.
Southerners are very friendly people and it usually takes a lot to get them riled up. I have always been intrigued with people who speak in the southern accent, especially women. Barb does not use that accent unless she feels like it, and then she is just as good at it as the natives.

We had a very nice time and stayed past closing which we hadn't planned because we wanted to get up early to attend 'The Call' which would go from 10 AM to 10 PM.
But as it turns out being fashionably late more often then not is one of the many ways which Barb and I are alike.
We cruised around town and she showed me around. We stopped at Sonics for ice cream, where her youngest son is a manager and I got to meet him.

We didn't exactly make it to 'The Call' by 10 AM either, a matter I didn't exactly help because I wasn't about to go to a 12 hour fast already hungry from having last ate the night before. Call me anti-religious, a rebel or whatever, but I determined I was going to fast only at the event.
Besides, more of that good southern cooking was calling to me. This time at a Shooney's I had Pok chops with a baked potato drenched in sour cream and butter. Barb ate very light because she had been sick, and still wasn't feeling her best. I told her she didn't have to go to this with me, but she insisted, and turned out doing better then me.

I had never been to a large Christian event before and had no idea what to expect, and had been informed that Lou Engle is known for being radical, so on the drive up, I told Barb if we encountered anything weird such as 'chanting' or 'snake handlers', or masses of people slain in the spirit, we would be out of there.
At our first glimpse of the stadium I was mildly disappointed in that it looked to be half to 3/4 full, and we thought maybe the turnout wasn't nearly as good as was planned. But that turned out to be deceiving because of how huge it was.

Upon arrival I could see why it was called 'Titan Stadium.' The place was as tall as a 10 story building. The 'nose bleed section' was almost in the troposphere. The stadium was a good 6 blocks long and 4 blocks wide, which would nearly displace all of down town of Cedar Rapids.
There were huge parking lots on either side, and multiple level parkades at each end.
Near where we parked were a couple 'hippie looking' tie dye vans, and a few long hair types milling around. A cold chill hit my spine as I wondered it these folks would be like the 'Jesus Freaks' of the late 1970s, and for a few seconds I wondered what I got myself into this time.

But as we approached our entrance I saw the vast majority of people looked like normal folks.
Some people were napping, some visiting, and some even eating. Here I thought this was a fast, but not for everyone.
I could hear the people who were speaking on the main stage, and it was very loud, but then it has to be to address 100,000 people.

I got out my cell phone and started trying to call a couple of the many people I knew came down from Cedar Rapids. I knew of at least three bus loads of people from one of our local mega-churches, and another bus that was taking smaller groups from about a half dozen other churches. My church also sent a full bus load, but a lot of us drove down ourselves as well, so I was figuring on at least 500 people from my city to be there, so chances were good I'd find someone I knew.
I couldn't get any answers, and figured probably it would have been nearly impossible to hear a cell phone anyway, so I set mine on vibrate, and we went inside.

Barb had very obviously been to many events like this, as she took the lead in finding us a couple seats.
She found us a shady side spot in the second tier going up in section 135. We had a good vantage point of the main stage, for it was hard to see them out right for the distance. Which was again planned for, as at each end were mammoth scoreboards with super big screens making it easy to see whatever the cameras were taping.
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Who's attending 'The Call?' Jul 4, 2007 1:15 am
Mood: groggy, 289 Views
Anyone from B.C. going to 'The Call' in Nashville TN. this Saturday?

Lou Engle has the goal of getting 100,000 believers packed into Titan Stadium This Saturday July 7th, for 12 hours of prayer and fasting.

It was exactly 40 years ago this coming Saturday that the 'Flower Child' rebellion against God movement began in San Franscisc Calf.

I'm going myself, and plan to finally meet Speeritwoman, who lives in the same state.
I was just wondering if anyone else is going. It is free by the way, and since it's a fast, there is no food to pay for either.
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Even Sodom! Jun 29, 2007 10:23 pm
Mood: drained, 292 Views
Even Sodom!
By Francis Frangipane

It is not God who hinders the healing of our land. Rather it is our apathy, our own unbelief, that keeps us from grasping the potential offered in the Gospel of Christ! Do not marvel when I say entire cities can be saved. The Scripture tells us that nations will come to our light and kings to the brightness of our rising! (Isaiah 60:1-3)

All We Lack is Christlikeness!
"He then began to denounce the cities in which most of His miracles were done, because they did not repent" (Matt. 11:20). Jesus has a word to say, not only to us as individuals, but to entire cities as well. In anger He rebuked Chorazin, Bethsaida and Capernaum (Matt. 11:21); with tears, He cried out to Jerusalem (Luke 13:34). If He expected cities to repent in the first century, He expects cities today to repent as well.

It was in this very context of reproving cities, however, that Jesus made a statement which unveiled the scope of God's redemptive power. Listen to His rebuke, but also to its hidden promise. He said, "For if the miracles had occurred in Tyre and Sidon which occurred in you, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes" (Matt. 11:21).

Tyre and Sidon were Gentile cities known for their debauchery and sin. Yet, Jesus said that His life, revealed in power, can bring even the vilest of cities, places which ought to be destroyed, to "sackcloth and ashes." The strategy, therefore, to win our cities is for the church to reveal Christ's life in power. Yes, the revelation of Christ in us as individuals, and the power of Christ displayed corporately through us, can turn our worst cities back toward God!

Today, many cities are ripe for revival. What hinders the turning of the people's hearts? Part of the answer lies with the church, with our sins of self-righteousness, indifference and unbelief. The Lord said if His people would humble themselves and pray, seek His face and turn from evil, He would then heal their land (see 2 Chron. 7:14). The future does not belong to the world; it belongs to the transformed church. Indeed, let us never forget: God "desires all men to be saved" (1 Tim. 2:4). With this in mind, Paul taught that entreaties and prayers should be made on behalf of all men, "for kings and all who are in authority" (1 Tim. 2:1-4). The sacrifice of Christ provides for the salvation of all men. Heaven waits only for the church to act.

One may say, "But, that was then. Our cities are worse. They are beyond redemption." Not so. Jesus continued His rebuke of cities, saying, "If the miracles had occurred in Sodom which occurred in you, it would have remained to this day" (Matt. 11:23). Amazingly, when Christ is manifested in power, Jesus said even Sodom could find repentance!

I have heard many ministers compare Los Angeles or New York to Sodom. Good. These cities have seen hell, now let the church show them heaven. They need to see Jesus revealed in His church. The promise of Christ is that even Sodom could repent in the atmosphere and revelation of Christ's power. If there is hope for Sodom, there is hope for your city as well!

The Obstruction to Revival: Complacency
When we picture cities, we tend to see skylines and factories, streets and schools. Jesus, however, sees people. He beholds husbands arguing with wives while their children tremble in fear. He sees drugs being sold on playgrounds and teenagers having abortions. He suffers at the bedside of the infirm. The heart of Christ grieves with the loneliness of the elderly and identifies with the struggles of the handicapped.

Yes, the eyes of the Lord probe the spirit and humanity of the city. From His eternal perspective, He also beholds the most terrible event known to man. He sees the overwhelming horror, the utter despair an unsaved person experiences as he realizes he is, indeed, dead and going to hell. And, in the midst of it all, He sees the church - His church, purchased at the cost of His own precious blood - sitting comfortably and amused, remote control in hand, watching television.

Jesus does not have a problem with the hot or cold dimensions of life. It is the lukewarm that He will spew from His mouth (Rev. 3:15-16). What stopped the cities of Chorazin, Bethsaida and Capernaum - communities that already had the blessing of Christ's healing - from embracing ongoing renewal? They assumed Christ's love was given only to enrich them. All they saw were the rewards of Christ without understanding His requirements.

The church today is frighteningly similar in attitude to these ancient cities. The majority of the first century saints gave their lives to Christ with the full knowledge they would face persecution, suffering and, possibly, death for their faith. Such was the character and vision of the church in the first century.

The main emphasis of much of our Christianity, however, is to help believers become "normal." So much of our contemporary teaching keeps alive the very nature Jesus calls us to crucify! We need to reevaluate our preaching. Are we preaching the cross and the call to follow Jesus? What are we training our people to become?

Please hear me, the Father's goal is not merely to bless us, but to transform us into the image of His Son! He desires to use us to turn our cities back to Him. But God has made no provision for the healing of our land apart from us becoming Christlike! Once we realize this vital truth, we shall return to the source of New Testament Christianity, and our cities will have hope for redemption. When the church demonstrates the love and power of Christ, repentance and revival can occur even in a place like Sodom.
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GIVE AND IT SHALL BE GIVEN Jun 18, 2007 1:21 pm
Mood: annoyed, 222 Views
This is not nearly as long as a post by my self-proclaimed sister in Christ who seems more interested in legalism based on someone else's opinion of the Bible rather then what the Bible says.

Luk 6:38 Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.

Some people call it giving, some call it an offering, some call it tithing, some call it donating. Terminology is simply splitting hairs over a truth that dates back to Cain and Abel.

Gen 4:3 And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the LORD.
Gen 4:4 And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the LORD had respect unto Abel and to his offering:


God's regard for Abel's offering over Cain's led to the first recorded murder on Earth.
In the Old Testament, blessings from God were promised to those who gave to him of their first fruits which in the O.T. was called a tithe.
The principle did not go away in the New Testament, it was simply not called a tithe.

Phi 4:15 Now ye Philippians know also, that in the beginning of the gospel, when I departed from Macedonia, no church communicated with me as concerning giving and receiving, but ye only.

Ever wonder why? Quite likely because someone was teaching that giving was obsolete. But the Philippians handled the matter of giving just as the Berean's did the Word itself.
Paul even states the reason for giving.

Phi 4:17 Not because I desire a gift: but I desire fruit that may abound to your account.
Phi 4:18 But I have all, and abound: I am full, having received of Epaphroditus the things which were sent from you, an odour of a sweet smell, a sacrifice acceptable, wellpleasing to God.


Then after that, a promise.

Phi 4:19 But my God shall supply all your need according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus.

The very same promise is made in in the Old Testament.

Mal 3:10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.

I have seen challenges to show tithing in the New Testament, to prove giving of ten percent. I can do far better then that, and in the very same passage disprove my sister's post claims that the poor never practiced giving.

Mar 12:41 And Jesus sat over against the treasury, and beheld how the people cast money into the treasury: and many that were rich cast in much.
Mar 12:42 And there came a certain poor widow, and she threw in two mites, which make a farthing.
Mar 12:43 And he called unto him his disciples, and saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That this poor widow hath cast more in, than all they which have cast into the treasury:
Mar 12:44 For all they did cast in of their abundance; but she of her want did cast in all that she had, even all her living.


The widow was poor and she still gave. Did she give ten percent? No, she gave all she had which was 100%.

Now is this saying we should do likewise? No, it is illustrating the point about giving.
Are we required to give? No, we give IF we want, what we want without restriction.
We give out of honesty, and we give out of a cheerful heart.

I find it very disheartening that not so long ago a bloger pursecuted those who she claimed was spreading false doctrines, and who is spreading false doctrines now?

Finally, I have to wonder if the source she gave accepts or turns down anyone offering donations to his church.

Now, would someone please remind Jean for me that I didn't start this, she did.

Joh 8 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
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Unoffendable Jun 16, 2007 10:36 am
Mood: hungry, 274 Views
Unoffendable
By Francis Frangipane

"I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; and I will remove the heart of stone from your flesh and give you a heart of flesh" (Ezek. 36:26).

God has a new heart for us that cannot be offended, an "unoffendable" heart. Beloved, possessing an unoffendable heart is not an option or a luxury; it's not a little thing. Consider: Jesus warns that, as we near the end of the age, a majority of people will be offended to such a degree that they fall away from the faith. Listen carefully to His warning:

"Then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another . . . and because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold" (Matt. 24:10-12 KJV).

"Many" will be offended; the love of "many" will grow cold. My prayer is that we will hear His words with holy fear.

When we allow an offense to remain in our hearts, it causes serious spiritual consequences. In the above verse Jesus named three dangerous results: betrayal, hatred and cold love. When we are offended with someone, even someone we care for, we must go to them. Otherwise, we begin to betray that relationship, talking maliciously behind their back to others, exposing their weaknesses and sins. We may mask our betrayal by saying we are just looking for advice or counsel, but when we look back, we see we have spoken negatively to far too many people. Our real goal was not to get spiritual help for ourselves but to seek revenge toward the one who offended us. How is such action not a manifestation of hatred? For an offended soul, cold love, betrayal and hatred go hand-in-hand.

People don't usually stumble over boulders; they stumble over stones, relatively small things. It may be that the personality of someone in authority bothers us and soon we are offended. Or, a friend or family member fails to meet our expectations, and we take an offense into our soul. Beloved, if we will "endure to the end," we will have to confront the things that bother us.

When Jesus warns that we need endurance, He is saying that it is easier to begin the race than finish it. Between now and the day you die, there will be major times of offense that you will need to overcome. You might be in such a time right now. Do not minimize the danger of harboring an offense.

No one plans on falling away; no one ever says, "Today, I think I'll try to develop a hardened, cold heart." Such things enter our souls through stealth and it is only naiveté that assumes it couldn't happen to us. I know many people who consistently become offended about one thing or another. Instead of dealing with the offenses, these people carry them until the weight disables their walk with God. You may be doing fine today, but I guarantee you, tomorrow something will happen that will inevitably disappoint or wound you; some injustice will strike you, demanding you retaliate in the flesh.

The Root Of Offense
An offense can strike at our virtues or sins, our values or our pride. It can penetrate and wound any dimension of the soul, both good and evil. I once brought a series of messages about gossip. Most people saw their sin and repented, but a core group of gossips were greatly offended and ultimately left the church. When the Holy Spirit exposes sin in someone's soul, if we refuse the opportunity to repent, we often become offended at the person who brought the teaching. Instead of humbling our hearts, we are outraged at the pastor or teachers in the church. Truthfully, most of the time, I have no idea who specifically needs to hear what I'm teaching, but God knows.

Paul told Timothy to "reprove, rebuke, exhort" (see 2 Tim. 4:2). He didn't say, "exhort, exhort, exhort," but exhortation is what we receive in most churches. Certainly, we need to be encouraged, but there are also times, beloved, when we need to be reproved and rebuked. Today, there are preachers who are afraid to preach truth for fear people will react and leave the church. The end result is a church of easily offended people who cannot grow beyond their inability to accept correction.

People don't change by exhortation alone. There are areas in all of us that need to be confronted and disciplined. The pastor who refuses to discipline and correct those in sin is in disobedience to God. He is unable to lead people into any truly transforming changes in their lives; they will not "endure to the end" if they cannot be corrected (see Matt. 24).

We need to become a people who say, "Lord, show me what needs to change in me." I'm talking about growing up. A wise man will receive a rebuke and he will prosper. But a fool rejects his father's discipline (see Prov. 15:5).

Personal Offense
An offense can wound our pride when we are not recognized for our good works or ministry. This happened to my wife and I long ago while in California. We were young pastors at a conference when the main leader decided to personally greet each minister and wife. He greeted the couple on our right and then turned to his staff to ask a question. A moment later he returned, but passed us by and went to the couple on our left. Everyone around us saw we were bypassed. We were embarrassed and offended. But my wife wisely observed that we could allow this thing to hurt us or we could see it as an investment in sensitivity toward other people's feelings. The offense taught us how others feel when they are ignored. Do you see this? You must make that offense become an opportunity to become more Christlike.

The occasions for taking offense are practically endless. Indeed, we are daily given the opportunity to either be offended by something or to possess an unoffendable heart. The Lord's promise is that He's given us a new heart: a soft, entreatable heart that can be filled with His Spirit and abound with His love.
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Pray for Speeritwoman and her son Jun 7, 2007 9:00 am
Mood: hopeful, 301 Views
This is Rev. Barb. Many of you know of her already. For those who don't, she is one of my three adopted 'big sisters,' here on B.C.

Early this morning she took her 23 year old son Allen to the hospitil who was admitted for some sort of brain trauma, possibly a stroke.
He is the youngest of her three son's recently married to his High School sweetheart, and things were going well with him.

They are to do some tests today, and Barb is understandably concerned about her son, and the local doctors that are treating him.

Pray for skill and wisdom to guide the doctors that are dealing with this, faith and strength for both Allen and Barb, and peace of mind for Barb.

Byron
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Once in a Blue Moon Jun 3, 2007 9:13 pm
Mood: amused, 287 Views
In another blog I made a reference to the blue moon having already occurred, and after having thought it out, I feel the need to correct myself, even if nobody else caught it. (Or cares)

The 'blue moon' which occurred in May this year was only in the time zones of the Americas. Most of the rest of the world will have a blue moon in June, except those in time zones which line with New Zealand, which will have a blue moon in July. Which brings the question, What is a blue moon? Glad you asked.

When a full moon happens twice in the same calendar month, it is what is meant by the term blue moon, implying something that seldom occurs. Since the moon fully phases in 29.5 days, and all months except February are either 30 or 31 days, there is a pretty low mathematical probability of it happening very often.

Roughly once every 2 1/2 to 3 years, although there are usually 4 to 5 times each century when there will be two blue moons in the same calendar year.
The next time there will be two full moons in the same month will be December 2009.

That will be the next 'blue moon.'
So why blue?
Some things are just NOT for us to know.
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Global Day Of Prayer May 26, 2007 9:53 pm
Mood: content, 337 Views
In a few minutes (in my time zone) the Global Day of Prayer will begin.

We haven't made this as big a fanfair as the National Day of Prayer, and by all rights it should have been much bigger, but just the same, I'll be happy to take any prayer requests you may have, and will post a prayer later on this afternoon.

Byron
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Sharyl & Rick's wedding May 19, 2007 5:08 pm
Mood: happy, 366 Views
Well I'm back home. Sharyl and Rick are on their honeymoon, so we won't be hearing from them for a while.

The wedding was very beautiful. There were lit candles along the entire alter, and long lavender veils lining the perimeter. Rick wore a very nice black suit, and Sharyl wore a lavender gown, and a smile that could encompass an area from Chicago to St. Louis. Her two girls ages 6 and 4 were simply adorable in their pink and lavender dresses.

John Clark, the senior pastor of their church, Evangel Life Center, Assemblies of God, officiated, and never have I ever seen a more personable officiating of a wedding done.
It was very obvious that he knew both Sharyl and Rick very well, and had done a very involved and detailed pre-marital counseling with both of them.
He publicly complimented both for their having honored God with purity, when so few couples do anymore, and proclaimed that God will in turn honor them for that.
He spoke of how both had lost their late spouses to untimely deaths, and how God, the healer of hearts now blessed them with each other.
How each of them felt lonely and desolate just a few months ago from their losses, and how God turned that which was devastating into joy and new love for both of them.

It was a pretty good sized wedding. Between a hundred and a hundred fifty people attended, which somehow made the sanctuary seem smaller to me then I remembered it from New Years weekend.

While Pastor John gave a brief teaching message, Sharyl and Rick stepped toward the middle of the alter, behind Pastor John, lit a unity candle together, and proclaimed their own private vows, in addition to those they gave before all, when they stepped back before their pastor.

He pronounced them husband and wife, they kissed, he introduced them as Mr. and Mrs._____, then he asked the congregation to stay put for a few moments while they went to his office to sign some documents. Then they would return together and dismiss us themselves, row by row, in order that they would have opportunity to speak to each guest.

A very nice reception followed, which I at first thought was catered, but found out it was all put together by Sharyl's parents. They did a real good job with it.

I sat at a table with one of the deacons and his wife, the church receptionist, the youth pastor,(who is also from Iowa) and a couple teenage girls in the youth group.
Believers from Assemblies of God churches tend to be very friendly, and easy to talk to, without feeling like a person is being judged.
I'll even say I find them more friendly then members of my own church, (which is not Assemblies of God, but we have some very close associations with a local Assemblies church).

The first toast, (usually given by the best man), in this wedding was given by the matron of honor, Sharyl's long time friend Melissa, and it was a tear jerker toast I might add.

I echo Melissa's wishes for the happy couple to have a long, prosperous, and blessed marriage. They are everything a Christian married couple should be to each other, and so much more too. Each were very special on their own, and now together will weave a very fine work to glorify our Lord.
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Going to a BC wedding. May 17, 2007 10:56 pm
Mood: sleepy, 366 Views
Well folks in less then 8 hours I will be on my way to the wedding of Sharyl, (FullofJoyEternal) to Richard (Rick41)
Stuff is all packed and waiting, the car tuned up and ready. The wedding present wraped and protected, reservatins made, and several people here with my full intenery.
I need gas yet and the cell phne battery will charge on the way up.
I even got my digital camera with a couple sparc batteries. What am I forgeting? How about prayer.

Father God, thank you in the name of Jesus for me to have a safe and wonderful trip to this wedding of two wonderful believers. I thank you for my car to run perfectly, that I'm rested up, and that I have my thoughts on you.
May they be blessed with the gift I selectied for them, and each day of the rest of their lives better then the one befor.

I also lift to you all the other's who are attending this wedding, or any other wedding, I pray for safe trip, prosperity journays, and that your peace rules. In the name of Christ Jesus
Amen.
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