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ACCUSER OF THE BRETHERN !! Mar 12, 2007 5:29 am
Mood: angry, 621 Views
Okay everyone, Enough is enough!!
Our online community is being attacked by a covert, sinister, malicious evil spirit the Bible calls "Accuser of the Brethren!"

Rev 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

Accuser of the Brethren is a demon. It is real, it influences fellow Christian believers and recently it is hitting us hard. So what exactly is Accuser of the Brethren?

It is a demon that uses religiousness as a means to divide the body of Christ. It is most effectively used to slander spiritual leadership, and create strife over doctrinal issues.

Does that sound a little like what's been going on here? How about a blog where a spiritual leader named Joel Olsteen is being discredited?
What about blogs identifying the 7th Day Adventists as a cult?

What doctrinal differences somebody thinks they have with this leader Joel Olsteen is being handled Un-Biblically, with malice and evil.
Spiritual leaders are to be respected,

1Ti 5:17 Let the elders that rule well be counted worthy of double honour, especially they who labour in the word and doctrine.

Rom 13:1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
Rom 13:2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.

Contrary to popular opinion and what NIV says, this is NOT in reference to civil leadership, but spiritual leadership. If it was civil leaders then those places that forbid preaching the Word would HAVE to be honored as the Bible says.

Spiritual leaders should NEVER ever publicly and openly criticized. Even if the doctrine is wrong, it is not for us to judge. The Bible says how to handle that as well.

1Ti 5:1 Rebuke not an elder, but intreat him as a father;

Mat 18:15 Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.
Mat 18:16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.

Has those who think Pastor Olsteen is wrong bothered to contact him personally?
Have they prayed for him to repent of wrong doctrine?
I think not, but instead has made a point to announce his alleged shortcomings to the church.
This should not be tolerated by any of us.
When we see it we need to impress upon that brother or sister that the matter is being handled wrongly, and by doing so makes them more guilty then the leader they have accused.

Rom 16:17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
Rom 16:18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.

I don't wish to debate this issue. The Word of God addresses it quite clearly. Those who are making accusations against spiritual leaders need to stop doing so right now, and repent of the sin.
Then, pray for the leader who is believed to have fallen.

The other means by which the demon, "Accuser of the Brethren," works is by causing division in the body over doctrinal issues.
I see today several blogs accusing the 7th Day Adventists of being a cult.
We use doctrines such as the trinity, or what day is the Sabbath to justify our positions.
You know what? Every one of you who want to accuse a group that believes differently then you do are outright hypocrites.

Your very own doctrines can be just as easily dismantled by using the Bible as those you attack.
Those who think they are more spiritual then the church down the street, or that believes something other then they do, are self-righteous and only fooling themselves.
Worst of all they are letting the devil deceive them into leading the body of Christ into divisions.

So what if somebody thinks the Sabbath should be a particular day? and so what if someone thinks that someone else is denying the deity of Christ?

That is not your problem, but theirs.

Rom 14:1 Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations.

Rom 14:4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.
Rom 14:5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.

Mat 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
Mat 7:2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

Boy, I would not want to be in the position on judgment day that some of you are putting yourselves in.
If you think somebody or some group is wrong, pray for them, and if they don't repent, it's not your problem but their's.

Again, I don't want to debate this issue and I won't. The Word of God has been given. You can heed to it, or ignore it. Either way I'll be praying for you that you don't have to stand judgment over the way you have judged.

And as fair warning, I will without hesitation ban anyone from my blog who wants to argue.

And don't even try to give me the bunk about exposing sin. That is another issue entirely.

Finally, I would ask those who have made blogs with accusations against the Brethern to please delete your accusing blogs, and pray for those you believe are not walking correctly. Which includes even me. Especially me.
God Bless you All.
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Update on my Son Mar 9, 2007 12:27 pm
Mood: depressed, 550 Views
I've posted the latest on my son, and ex-wifes attempts to keep me from seeing him in my blog
My son is dying and she still keeps me away!!

This is read only.
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I WAS WRONG!! SO WHAT IS WIND AND FIRE! Mar 9, 2007 9:54 am
Mood: restless, 576 Views
Over recent months I have written of and referred to a church group known as Wind and Fire which was constructing their own church building, and holding services at my church on Saturday nights meanwhile.
Well I was wrong concerning what Wind and Fire is all about.

Wind and Fire is NOT a church, but a prayer ministry. Any, and all believers anywhere, and everywhere can be part of Wind and Fire because it is not affiliated with any church, it is affiliated with ALL of them.

The seeds of what is now Wind and Fire started over 30 years ago, when Francis Frangipane, Senior Pastor of River of Life and a few Penticostal pastors, began meeting amongst themselves and praying together for spiritual revival in America.

These pastors who were meeting started discussing crossing denomenational lines and begin corporate prayer relationships with other denomenations. It was decided that the best way to start would be to establish a dialoge with the single most opposite denonenation to the Penticostials. That being the Baptists. But none of them knew any of the Baptist preachers, so it was prayed about and everyone went their way.

A few days later Pastor Francis was seeking to purchase a 2nd hand computer for his studies, and
he bought it from a Baptist Preacher.

Now some of local Baptist preachers, and other mainstream ministers, had been meeting as well, about joint prayer with other churches, and had decided that if this was of God, then he had to get the Penticostals to sit down with Baptists for joint prayer sessions.

Well it happened, and continued to happen. Then they begain to bring in more ministers, and pastors. The sessions got bigger yet with involving local government officials, especially our city council. City wide Prayer was born.

Eventually a corporation was formed based on the church leaders prayer group. The corporation was dubbed 'Wind and Fire.'
Wind representing the Charismatic aspect of receiving the holy spirit.
Fire is more mainstream, and long known from the Old Testiment as the means by which God accepted offerings.

The point man Ric Lumbard I previously identified as a Charismatic pastor, is NOT a pastor, but a prayer warrior.

Wind and Fire worship services are called EGS (Encountering God Sessions) are held Saturday nights, to allow anyone to come, because it doesn't compete with anyone's Sunday services.

The EGS services themselves were supposed to be totally non-denomational with something for everyone. However because of low attendence by mainstreamers, ECS services have an unmistakeable Charismatic flare to them, with raising hands, dancing in place, waving big flags, and blowing horns.
Now if someone wants to bring an organ and chimes and do a traditional type hymm, yeah we can do that too, but we won't do only that.

When the nearly completed regional 24/7 Prayer Center is done, EGS services will be hosted there.
Look for this to become big news in days to come for showing church unity within a city.
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A Time to Seek God Mar 9, 2007 1:22 am
Mood: sleepy, 600 Views
A Time to Seek God by Francis Frangipane

Dear Follower of Jesus Christ,

We have had a great many inquiries from churches and serious Christians from all over the world, all desiring greater conformity to Jesus Christ. Our vision is to see a worldwide movement begin, where hundreds of thousands of Christians are no longer intimidated by evil, but rather are empowered by Christlike character to stand before God for their cities and nations. Beloved, we know that every time the Father sees His Son manifest upon the earth, His heart is "well-pleased." Thus, we are fully convinced that, if we truly reveal Jesus, we too will awaken the pleasure of God, and when God's pleasure is stirred, His redemptive power soon follows.

In Christ's Image Training begins with Level I, where the goal is to remove the trappings and misdirection of mere religion and simplify the vision of attaining Christlikeness.

Level I Training
Equips students, intercessors, ministry leaders, future pastors, pastors and churches for effectual, Christlike living. Level I is 6 months of training.

Track I: Christlikeness (6 sessions, 12 chapters, 11 messages on tapes or CDs)
Track II: Humility (6 sessions, 12 chapters, 11 messages on tapes or CDs)
Track III: Prayer (6 sessions, 10 chapters, 8 messages on tape or CDs)
Track IV: Unity (6 sessions, 10 chapters, 9 messages on tapes or CDs)

My own notes: These are the classes I've been taking and raving about since the beginning of January. I just started Track IV: Unity.

There's more in his article this week, but it included price information which might attract the censors to think this is an advertizement.
For what I'm getting out of these classes, and knowing now, if I were elsewhere in the country and had to pay for them by internet corrispondence, I would because they are very worth it.

If you are interested in learning more, you will have to do and internet search under either Francis Frangipane, or River of Life, since this site won't allow internet addresses to be published.

If you want more confirmation from other known bloggers about Pastor Francis, or River of Life, I know beyond doubt that Marilyn, (Spiritfilled) and Barb (Spiritwoman) can verify the validity.

If you don't know me well enough to know how much it has changed me, I will put on the spot some of those who do know what these ICIT classes are doing for me. I've not asked their permisson, so this is a dry run, but you can ask Fullofjoyeternal, (Sharyl), or Freedom Ryder, (Annette), or Overcaffenated, (Corrie.)

Others including heartforedjehu,(Rhonda,) and her husband edjehu (Ed) are familiar with these works and ministry as well.

Others yet who can see how I have changed, may come forward as they feel inspirired can comment,
I won't delete anything, even if Dennis comes in here with his poison, and 'Accuser of the Brethern spirit.'

The books by Francis Frangipane are worth reading and his classes are worth taking, At any price.

Byron
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A prayer request I'm passing on Mar 3, 2007 10:57 pm
Mood: content, 669 Views
It's not often that pastors make prayer requests of their congregation's, but tonight Ric Lumbard of Wind and Fire Ministries in the Cedar Rapids IA area did just that.

Some of you may recall from my blogging remarks that Wind and Fire is the group that have been operating out of the River of Life church building, and are in the process of building their new 24/7 Prayer center.
When completed it will be a wonderful exhibit of city wide church unity as there are at least a hundred different local churches involved in this endeavor. The prayer center will be for anyone from any church, or even if you have no church, and will be staffed at all times for prayers and prayer requests.

Construction has taken a big hit in the last two weeks with a series of 4 major winter storms passing through stopping construction, cutting off power, and making the roads to the site nearly impassable.

It is now imperative to make up enough lost time to get at least a temporary occupancy for their big Glory Generation Conference which is to take place from March 15th - 17th.
Five nationally renown speakers are supposed to be on hand, and so far over 400 families are registered for the conference. This is a pretty big event.

There are 13 parts to the construction project which must be completed in the next week, and 5 more the following week.

Please find a spot in your many prayers to add the Wind and Fire Ministries construction project.
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The Truth About Prayer !! Mar 2, 2007 11:48 pm
Mood: sleepy, 695 Views
The following is a quote from my text book in my Spiritual Warfare class which really blessed me.

"You can do more then pray after you have prayed, but you cannot do more then pray until you have prayed."
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Update on my son in the hospital Feb 26, 2007 1:21 am
Mood: shocked, 715 Views
I don't feel like starting a new blog on this, so it will be read only, and I will refer you to the other post where all the news is at....
My son is dying and she still keeps me away!!
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Woo hoo, My radio station is on line Feb 24, 2007 8:22 pm
Mood: excited, 724 Views
Oh how kewl. The Christian radio station I recently found and been listening to in my car, allows me to listen on line.

I don't have to have a 50 million kezabit computer with the amount of RAM it takes to contain the entire libary of Congress.
I don't need a version of Windows transported back in time from the year 3294. I didn't have to download some new program that will still be trying to install when the Lord returns. And best of all, I didn't have to buy anything with a credit card, or even regester for a never enddng barrage of Spam E-mails that load faster then I can delete them.

It works even with my dinosaur of a computer.
All I had to do was click on a button that says 'listen online' and open a new window to continue my on line activities.
I only consumes 50 megabits of RAM, about half of what it takes to launch Internet Explorer.
My 16 bit sound card from the turn of the century is handleing it just fine.

And more kewl yet is a button that will give a list of the last 10 songs by title and artist. So far I've found the titles of eight songs we sing in church.

Did You Feel the Mountains Tremble
Fields of Grace
How Great is Our God
All Who are Thirsty
Blessed Be the Name
Amazing Grace, (different version)
Shout to the Lord
Bless the Lord

I'm still waiting for 'I Am Free'. There's a version by the Newsboys. And another I've heard on the radio we sing and haven't caught the title.
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Walking Her Home Feb 23, 2007 11:35 am
Mood: beautiful, 797 Views
Walking Her Home by Mark Schultz

Looking back
He sees it all
It was her first date the night he came to call

Her dad said son
Have her home on time
And promise me you’ll never leave her side
He took her to a show in town
And he was ten feet off the ground

(Chorus)
He was walking her home
And holding her hand
Oh the way she smiled it stole the breath right out of him
Down that old road
With the stars up above
He remembers where he was the night he fell in love
He was walking her home

Ten more years and a waiting room
At half past one
And the doctor said come in and meet your son

His knees went weak
When he saw his wife
She was smiling as she said he’s got your eyes

And as she slept he held her tight
His mind went back to that first night

(Chorus)

He walked her through the best days of her life
Sixty years together and he never left her side

A nursing home
At eighty-five
And the doctor said it could be her last night
And the nurse said Oh
Should we tell him now
Or should he wait until the morning to find out

But when they checked her room that night
He was laying by her side

Oh he was walking her home
And holding her hand
Oh the way she smiled when he said this is not the end
And just for a while they were eighteen
And she was still more beautiful to him than anything
He was walking her home
He was walking her home

Looking back
He sees it all
It was her first date the night he came to call
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My son is dying and she still keeps me away!! Feb 21, 2007 11:48 am
Mood: scared, 936 Views
On Saturday my son with Downs Syndrome and respiratory problems was admitted to the hospital with pneumonia. I was told then that this could be fatal for him. Then my ex-wife cut me off from further visitation and contact with him.

This morning my brother called me and said he got from his ex-wife who is friends with my ex-wife that my son's health and life is ebbing away, and he is not expected to survive this pneumonia, but I still am being banned from him over my ex-wife's bitterness.

Oh how I wish I could give her the last two Francis Frangipane articles.
At least I'm still able to pray for him. I don't even get to see him before he dies, and may not even get to see him after.

How can that woman be so cruel?
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