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Calling all doctors, STAT, WWM problem...
JustChristian1
8/14/2008 9:13 pm

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Greetings,
I was recently informed of a medical term, in regards to premature white males. I was told, from a medical professional, that there is a common term used to describe premature white males. I have not researched if this is valid, yet it would only confirm my thinking along other lines, if it was so. The term is abbreviated as, "WWM" syndrome, or, "Wimpy White Male" syndrome. It is supposed that, and it is common knowledge amongst the medical field, that premature white males, do not aggressively seek to suckle, like others races, nor females of the same race. Can anyone in the medical field, confirm this finding that white premature males, are not as aggressive to suckle as others??

No King but CHRIST JESUS!!!
hejsan5
232 posts

8/15/2008 12:09 am

Careful now...
That would imply a natural difference between white and non-with premature males.

Is that the point you are trying to make?

floridagal2
1816 posts 

8/15/2008 3:00 am

I have worked in medicine for 15 years and have not heard that one. Not to say it's not a term that perhaps a specific department has come up with from their experience. Like a not so kind term some ER folks use to refer to those that frequent emergency rooms yet have no serious emergency...GOMERS (get out of my ER). But a medical term...no.


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JustChristian1
882 posts 

8/15/2008 7:33 am

    Quoting hejsan5:
    Careful now...
    That would imply a natural difference between white and non-with premature males.

    Is that the point you are trying to make?
Greetings,
I had asked this medical professional to tell me who coined this term. I also asked, since they said, studies have proved this, where it was published and who's study was it.. It was only last night that I myself had first heard of this, so, I am giving them a chance to prove what they have said...

What could this possible mean, if it were true, that there is a distinct difference between white preemie males, and all others, as to aggressiveness to suckle? That the white Christian non-effeminate male, is the most endangered species on the planet...

No King but CHRIST JESUS!!!

JustChristian1
882 posts 

8/15/2008 7:45 am

    Quoting floridagal2:
    I have worked in medicine for 15 years and have not heard that one. Not to say it's not a term that perhaps a specific department has come up with from their experience. Like a not so kind term some ER folks use to refer to those that frequent emergency rooms yet have no serious emergency...GOMERS (get out of my ER). But a medical term...no.
Greetings,
I would imagine this term would be used in the neo-natal department of a hospital. The professional that I know, is the head of an IC unit. They have been spending a lot of time in the neo-natal ward, for their family member just delivered a preemie at their hospital. The family member, which I also know, is also a medical professional. I just woke late today, but have two other pro's around here I know, and will ask as well. Then again, I think I will do some google-ing today as well on this subject. The pro that told me this, said they have used this term for about twenty years...

So Florida, what do you do with them GOMERS, PYLE them up, or?

No King but CHRIST JESUS!!!

Verybusybee
1109 posts

8/15/2008 7:51 am

I've never heard of it either
I think Floridagal's probably hit
the nail on the head!!!

GraceStillAmazes
723 posts

8/15/2008 7:54 am

<-------------------former labor and delivery nurse here.

Never heard that in my life. Sounds like nonsense. All premature infants are weaker and less likely to nurse depending upon the level of prematurity, just like all other functions are weaker.


"Jesus--He meets you where you are
Jesus--He heals your secret scars
All the love you're longing for is
Jesus--The friend of a wounded heart"


A wounded and broken heart
We need to STOP spreading lies and half truths

JustChristian1
882 posts 

8/15/2008 10:08 am

    Quoting Verybusybee:
    I've never heard of it either
    I think Floridagal's probably hit
    the nail on the head!!!
Greetings,
Lets not dismiss this just yet, for it has been only 12 hours since I was made aware of the term.

No King but CHRIST JESUS!!!

JustChristian1
882 posts 

8/15/2008 10:27 am

Greetings,
The heading of the article I found the info in is called, "Respiratory Distress Syndrome Part II"...

No King but CHRIST JESUS!!!

JustChristian1
882 posts 

8/15/2008 10:45 am

Greetings,
I had posted the exact site where this study is found. It is online ppl, I read it. Search for the above heading, and run a search for wwm's preemies and the word whimpy... It is done by the Crozer-Chester medical center..

No King but CHRIST JESUS!!!

hejsan5
232 posts

8/15/2008 9:11 pm

    Quoting JustChristian1:
    Greetings,
    I had asked this medical professional to tell me who coined this term. I also asked, since they said, studies have proved this, where it was published and who's study was it.. It was only last night that I myself had first heard of this, so, I am giving them a chance to prove what they have said...

    What could this possible mean, if it were true, that there is a distinct difference between white preemie males, and all others, as to aggressiveness to suckle? That the white Christian non-effeminate male, is the most endangered species on the planet...
As you know, the bible describes creation as God's masterpiece, of which we play a vital role. It tells us that all people have the same creator The Lord Jesus Christ and the same for-parents Adam and Eve.

May I put this to you. Since Jesus was born in the middle east, what colour do you think his skin was? Do you think the child Jesus had trouble with his suckle?

God Bless

Your brother in Christ

JustChristian1
882 posts 

8/16/2008 9:06 am

    Quoting hejsan5:
    As you know, the bible describes creation as God's masterpiece, of which we play a vital role. It tells us that all people have the same creator The Lord Jesus Christ and the same for-parents Adam and Eve.

    May I put this to you. Since Jesus was born in the middle east, what colour do you think his skin was? Do you think the child Jesus had trouble with his suckle?

    God Bless

    Your brother in Christ
Greetings,
This post is about a label, to a condition, of premature births, of white males. Last I checked, Christ Jesus was not a preemie. Though ALL have One Creator, not all, have the same father. Your attempt to associate geography with genetics, fails, for apples are not oranges... But, to play along, and give you an answer, Christ Jesus was a white male...

No King but CHRIST JESUS!!!

hejsan5
232 posts

8/17/2008 12:14 am

    Quoting JustChristian1:
    Greetings,
    This post is about a label, to a condition, of premature births, of white males. Last I checked, Christ Jesus was not a preemie. Though ALL have One Creator, not all, have the same father. Your attempt to associate geography with genetics, fails, for apples are not oranges... But, to play along, and give you an answer, Christ Jesus was a white male...
1. I'm NOT trying to associate geography with genetics, but you are! I'm trying to dis-associate geography from genetics and thats the whole point here. Regardless of where we are born, we are all equal.

2. You say Jesus was a white male. How do you know that? What proof do you have that he wasn't dark skinned or even black? There are plenty of dark skinned and black people in the middle east. Just because most of the advertising media portraits him as white doesn't mean it is true!

3. Do you think its credible to include words like "wimp" in a professional medical research matter?

Your brother in Christ

JustChristian1
882 posts 

8/17/2008 11:51 am

    Quoting hejsan5:
    1. I'm NOT trying to associate geography with genetics, but you are! I'm trying to dis-associate geography from genetics and thats the whole point here. Regardless of where we are born, we are all equal.

    2. You say Jesus was a white male. How do you know that? What proof do you have that he wasn't dark skinned or even black? There are plenty of dark skinned and black people in the middle east. Just because most of the advertising media portraits him as white doesn't mean it is true!

    3. Do you think its credible to include words like "wimp" in a professional medical research matter?

    Your brother in Christ
1. You mentioned the middle east, and asked what race, not I..Get it straight.

2. I could ask you the same. What proof do you have He wasn't? For starts, how about numerous letters of that time describing Christ Jesus' features? Take the legal document Pontius Pilate wrote to Tiberius Caesar. And there is more, if you only checked these things out for yourself.

3. AHahha, I'm not in the medical field and I didn't write the study, nor coin the term, but the medical field did. So, go ask them why they chose the word "Whimpy".

Now let me ask you a question. Why is it I perceive you are using the tactics of Edomites and Kenites?

No King but CHRIST JESUS!!!

hejsan5
232 posts

8/17/2008 4:33 pm

    Quoting JustChristian1:
    1. You mentioned the middle east, and asked what race, not I..Get it straight.

    2. I could ask you the same. What proof do you have He wasn't? For starts, how about numerous letters of that time describing Christ Jesus' features? Take the legal document Pontius Pilate wrote to Tiberius Caesar. And there is more, if you only checked these things out for yourself.

    3. AHahha, I'm not in the medical field and I didn't write the study, nor coin the term, but the medical field did. So, go ask them why they chose the word "Whimpy".

    Now let me ask you a question. Why is it I perceive you are using the tactics of Edomites and Kenites?
When Judas betrayed Jesus he did so with a kiss as the identifying mark, because Jesus looked just like all the rest of the guys up there. He didn't look holy or special in any way. He was just like any of the other guys BUT not as white as a man born in Sweden like I am. I would imagine slightly brown or maybe olive/tanned in colour but, true!, I don't have proof of that and neither do I seek proof for it. We don't know and we are not supposed to know. Jesus identifies himself with all mankind. Short, tall, fat, skinny, black and white. He is one of us and we are part of Him.

The reason that I'm am including Jesus in my response is that there is no genetic difference between black and white males at all.

Insinuating that there is a difference between black and white males (preemie or not) is leaning towards Darwinism and is anti-Christ, Hence the reaction(s).

You are a great brother in Christ and surly diligent but your choice of topic was unfortunate, maybe just bad luck.

Lets be friends and move on

What do you say brother?

JustChristian1
882 posts 

8/18/2008 8:51 am

Greetings Hejsan5,
Listen carefully. My whole point in this post, is to show how the enemy operates, if this was really a term that is used. I did not coin the term, "Whimpy White Male", but I can guess at who did. The enemy loves to make people feel inferior. All people. Look at some great Christian names for men, and see how the enemy has given these names a negative spin. Doubting "Thomas", "Peter" out, rob that "Mark", no even "Steven", and so on...

As far as Christ Jesus looking like all His brethren, I would say, read that letter from Pontius Pilate and see how he describes Christ Jesus as looking fair of skin, not like his olive complected brethren, and, with the most softest eyes of blue. This is not the only ancient description of Christ Jesus either. And please don't forget who Christ Jesus said He came for in Matthew 15..

But when did this become a post about Christ Jesus' race?

Since you are from Sweden, I would suggest you trace the migration of the tribe of "Dan", which was one of the ten lost tribes of Israel. Have you ever heard of Dan-mark? The Danube? the Dan-ish? The Dan? And I am sure, since you live over there, you could name more "Dan's" then me. Have a read of my post, "Scythians found lost Israel". One can never forget the numerous warnings of the enemy slipping in amongst Christians, and the two churches in Rev, 2:9 and 3:9, knew of this. The enemy of God always wants to fool the true Children of Light, into thinking, the enemy is the true, and the christian, the false..

Your statement about no genetic difference between black and white males, shows me two things. 1) You do not understand genetics. (an eagle is not a duck, but they are both birds) 2) You are playing the enemies game. Why do I say you are playing the enemies game? Cause there are more then just blacks and whites in this world. The enemy loves to cause conflict between the races, and you just proved what I say, by limiting your response to black and white only. The enemy wants blacks and whites to strife. They want reds and yellows to strife. They want whites and reds to strife. They want blacks and yellow to strife. While the whole time, they sit in the background, laughing, and selling mens souls for filthy lucre, in their chameleon skin... What was it GOD said to the serpent in Genesis 3:15? What? The serpent has a seed? I guess that's why Christ Jesus said we have One Creator, but not all have the same father. Does this verse sound familiar? "Ye are of your father, and I of mine." John 8...

Now as to being friends, sure, but don't forget, Job had friends too, and they where not his brethren. Now the question is, are or are you not, a brethren?

No King but CHRIST JESUS!!!

SHEM2007
11 posts

8/22/2008 5:08 am

you all forget that Jesus was a Jew and therefore would most likely have the skin tone of the Jewish people, and justchristian is right: he didnt coin the term the medical profession did. Love you in the Lord, justie. your friend always.

shem2007

In the Master's Service,
SHEM2007

JustChristian1
882 posts 

8/22/2008 1:21 pm

Greetings Shemie,
Well, to be technical, Christ Jesus was called a jew, and said, I am what ever you say I am.. This word is one of the most misunderstood words of the bible Shem. A good study on the word "jew", and the knowledge of who king Herod was, will show all, that not all so called jews, where of the tribe of Judah.Here is a problem created..In Christ Jesus' time when He walked this earth among men, any one, of any religion, living in Judea, was called, a "jew". Kinda like calling a person from Texas, "Tex", without regards to race or religion, but by geographical association.. Flavius Josephus makes this plainly clear in his works..

No King but CHRIST JESUS!!!

SHEM2007
11 posts

8/23/2008 6:00 pm

Since Abraham was the father of the hebrews, then all his descendents would also be hebrew. this includes all the tribes of Jacob(Israel), not just the tribe of judah. the tribe of Judah was the line through which christ would come. Jesus, through Mary, was a Jew(hebrew) and would have to be in order to inherit the throne of david as prophecied and promised by God. and if Jesus was not Jewish, he could not be the Messiah...for the Messiah must be Jewish, not Gentile. for the Messiah was prophesied to be born in the Jewish nation of Israel, not of the gentiles. anyone teaching or even suggesting that christ was of Gentile birth is teaching false doctrine. sorry< justie, but i cannot agree with you that Jesus was not Jewish. doesnt agree with what the scriptures teach.

as far as the reference to jesus being fair skinned could mean that his skin was flawless. that there were no marks such as scars, birthmarks; that he was without spot or blemish as required by Jewish law for a sacrifice lamb to be. Jesus was perfect, spiritually and physically, in order to be the supreme sacrifice for the sins of man.

talk to you later,

In the Master's Service,
SHEM2007

JustChristian1
882 posts 

8/23/2008 10:13 pm

Greetings Shemie,
Actually Shem, Eber is the father of all the Hebrews, for from Eber, the one who crossed over, is this name, "Hebrew" derived. Abraham descends from Eber, just as Paul/Saul, as Paul would write. So to say a jew, one of Judah and not just from the land geographically, is a Hebrew, would be correct, but not all Hebrews, would be jews... Mary is half Judaite and half Levite, so Christ, who's Father is God, would be at most, 1/4 Judah, 1/4 Levi, and Half of what ever tribe you would say God is, if we go by our understanding of how genetics work. But Shemie, let me ask, as we have digressed from the topic of this thread, what is a jew? A race? or a religion? Last I checked, Jacob/Israel was Judah's father, as well as eleven other sons. I find most people lump Israel, into Judah, but Israel comes first, not Judah. Two houses divided. Why is it people say the jewish nation of Israel??? Now to modern day jews Shem...Ask one what kind of jew they are. I mean, ask them if they are Ashkenazim, or Sephardic. You will find most will say Ashkenazim, since they make up over 90% of modern jewery. Ashkenaz was a child of Japheth, Noah's son, and not of Shem. Shem is the father of all the Semitic people, and not Japheth, so Japheth sons Ashkenaz, the patriarch of modern jewery, is not Semitic. Makes me think of Revelation 2:9 and 3:9 here... Then again, if you just check prophesy, you would see the proof in the pudding so to speak, that someone is not who they claim.. Where is it written that Christ would be a jew? It says Christ would be called one, but does that make Him one? Christ was asked if He is the King of the jews, and Christ responds, I am what ever you say....But who was the King of the jews at Christ's time? Herod...Herod wasn't even of the tribe of Judah. Herod was an Idumean. Idumeans are Edomites. Edomites are descendants of Esau.. Can you see how Esau has tried to claim his birth right back, by taking over the king line of Judah, as son of Israel/Jacob.. Can you see how we now have usurpers of Judah's name, who are children of Japheth, and not of Shem. Read the last verse of the eighth chapter of the book of Esther. It is prophesied as well, for it was said Judah would leave his name as a curse for his people, and thus, the confusion about one of the most misunderstood words in the bible, jew. Adam, Seth, Noah, Shem, Eber, Abraham, Jacob, the twelve tribes... One house Judah, one house Israel.

Don't be deceived here Shem. I recommend getting some Truth from the horses mouth here. Some books which explain, and written by jews are: "The Thirteenth Tribe" by Arthur Koestler, ""Who is Esau-Edom?" by Charles Weisman, "You Gentiles" by Maurice Samuel, and "Jews Must Live" by Samuel Roth. You might be shocked at what these books contain, as most jews would have that you don't read them. Why would that be? Rev 2:9 and 3:9 again Shem....

Now, what's all this have to do with giving an effemanite term to white preemies?

No King but CHRIST JESUS!!!

SHEM2007
11 posts

8/24/2008 3:48 am

i don't know what bible you read, but my KJV, NIV,ASV ALL says that Abraham was the father of the Hebrew nation.John 8: 38-39==38. I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father.
39. They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham.

Eber was a decendent of Shem the same as abraham was. but it was unto Abraham, not Eber, that God said get thee out of thy father's house and i will make you the father of a great nation (Genesis 12:1,2) which would be the nation of Israel who would later be refered to as Jews/hebrews. in order for the Messiah to inherit the eternal throne of David, who was a Jew/hebrew, the Messiah of necessity must also be Jew/Hebrew. Matthew 1:1-16 traces the genealogic line of Christ ALL THE WAY BACK TO ABRAHAM through the line of Judah who was a SON OF JACOB and grandson of ABRAHAM. and since Judah was a grandson of ABRAHAM, he would have been Jewish/Hebrew and so would the other 11 grandsons of ABRAHAM. a jew is a race, same as americans, not a religion. and i understand Israel came before Judah. and God did not descend from ANY OF THE TRIBES OF ISRAEL. God created them not the other way around. to insinuate otherwise would be to say that man created God instead of God creating man. therefore Jesus was half jew and half God. Herod may have been king of the jews at the time of Christ, but Christ WILL BE THE ETERNAL KING OF THE JEWS. Jesus did not claim to be king of the jews. the people and pilate made the claim. as did the 3 wise men who said "where is he that born KING OF THE JEWS.

and yes Jesus is the I AM as God in the flesh. and is therefore whatever we need him to be. our Lord, Savior, Peace, Healer, Comforter, Counselor and so forth. we can;t take Jesus and turn Him into an american, italian, chinese, or any other race on earth because He is of Jewish birth. when someone from russia moves to america, they may become american citizens but they are still russian by birth. moving from one nation to another does not change your heritage, just your citizenship.

the 2 nations Israel and Judah may at this time be divided, but God has promised in His word to bring them back together as one nation. and He will do so. that is one of the reasons for revelation.

i am not deceived. i know who i believe in and what.

as for preemie white males and a reference to them. this may have nothing to do with it.

In the Master's Service,
SHEM2007

JustChristian1
882 posts 

8/25/2008 8:34 am

Greetings Shemie,
Your all over the board Shemie, please calm down... Was Shem a Hebrew? Was Eber a Hebrew? Was Abraham a Hebrew? Shem, No...Eber, Yes, for He, Eber is the first of the Hebrews, and from where we get the word Hebrew (Gen 10:21, II Cor. 11:22, and notice Paul doesn't say jew in the prior or latter, Phil 3:5).... Was Abraham, Yes, for He, Like all that came from him, are also Hebrew. Are All Hebrews Jews? NO NO NO.... Is Ishmael a jew? NO.. Is Esau a Jew? NO... Could Ismael and Esau be called, Hebrew??? Was Abraham a jew? No.. Was Abraham the father of the jews? Yes, as well as many other nations, for through Abraham came Issac, then Jacob/Israel, and then Judah, one of twelve sons.. You Shemie, have got to be careful how you use the word jew, for you are not using it correctly..And jews (Sons of Judah + Benjamin) are Israelites, but not ALL Israelites, are jews.. Mary, was only half Judah Shem...The other Half was Levi, for Mary was Elisabeth's cousin on her mother's side, thus, one of Elisabeth's parents, and Mary's mother where siblings, and would have been full blooded Levities, for Elisabeth was married to a priest, and that was the law, that a priest must marry a full blooded Levite.

And Shemie, just who was Christ Jesus speaking to in the eight chapter of John? Notice they say, they had never been in bondage (vs 33).. No Egypt, no Babylon?? Was Esau of Abraham? Was Herod an Edomite? Did Herod appoint his kin as priests and high officials? YES YES YES...Were all the people of Judea at that time, known as jews collectively, from the tribe of Judah? NO NO NO... Esther 8.... Flavius Josephus writes how non-Judaites, took over the land also.. Now read Rev. 2:9 and 3:9 and see what truth two churches knew, and will know, at the end.... Show me a verse where Christ Jesus says He is a jew. Show me a verse where His disciples call Him a jew. I know you can show me verses where others call Him a jew, but that was the prophesy, that He WOULD BE called one.. I just called you a man.. Does that make you a man? This all goes back to the prophesy that Judah would leave his name for a curse to his people, thus one of the most misunderstood words of the bible, "jew"....

Oh Shemie, we suffer so much from lack of knowledge, truly....And we have digressed so far from the topic.... The enemy wants to effeminate men... Physically, Spiritually, verbally, and what ever way they can...

No King but CHRIST JESUS!!!

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