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10/19/2007 4:10 am |
The Word says Jesus turned towards Peter - so after double checking it first - it's #1 he rebuked Peter face to face. How can we NOT praise Him - Marilyn
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10/19/2007 4:27 am |
Now that you have brought it up,I`m not sure. He (Jesus) was talking to satan,but did He look peter in the face when He said it................mmmmmm.........I`m not sure. GBY stevie "This is the year of the favor of our God" "Your time has come to shine. All your dreams are on their way. See how they shine."(Bridge over troubled waters)
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10/19/2007 4:28 am |
P.S what do you think ? "This is the year of the favor of our God" "Your time has come to shine. All your dreams are on their way. See how they shine."(Bridge over troubled waters)
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10/19/2007 4:59 am |
P.S what do you think ? I am waiting to put up my response. I want to see what everyone else has to say. Hiz4Ever † Vincit Veritas~Truth Conquers
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10/19/2007 5:10 am |
Well this story is also told in Mark. In verse 8:32 we see: 32And he spake that saying openly. And Peter took him aside, and began to rebuke him. 33BThen he turned back and looked on his disciples, and rebuked Peter, saying, Get thee behind me, Satan: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but the things that be of men. So it seems that they were off to the side and Jesus turned to face the rest of the disciples. I think more importantly than whether he was facing him was the fact that he issued such a strong rebuke. Of course He rebuked Peter! He was talking to Peter, no question. But Satan was speaking through Peter and was the source. Peter was focused on an Earthly agenda and denying the Promise of The Lord and the power of Jesus Christ our King and Savior. Look at the verse in context (the best way to examine a Bible verse) and there is much more shocking activity going on: 16:21 From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day. 16:22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee. 16:23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men. 16:24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. 16:25 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it. So we see Peter rebuked Jesus! He was so focused on an Earthly agenda (survival) that he saw it fit to rebuke the Messiah. So needless to say, Peter had it coming. Now some may say that Peter was doing this because he cared about Jesus and did not want him to die. Maybe so, but Jesus rebuked Peter to let him know the urgency of the situation. it was BIGGER than Earthly human worries. Jesus was on a mission to save humanity and his death was a part of it. This is why he repeatedly told his disciples in advance, so when it happened they would know it was his plan. And most importantly, he would come back on the third day via resurrection!! Praise The Father! He was giving a message of glory but Peter could only see through a glass darkly, and hear of death and suffering, which is what Satan wants for all of us. So he was rebuked. But in Peter's defense, at this point in his life he was very emotional and reactionary (being human as we all are). he of course later became fully emboldened with The Holy Spirit and a great, great Apostle. So perhaps Jesus did turn his back on Peter. But I think it's safe to say it was justified and out of love. Praise The Father and our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
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10/19/2007 6:47 am |
Hi Precious Woman of God, I looked up three different translations and it appears to me that the one verse Matthew 16:23, is divided in two parts... First,I believe that Jesus spoke directly to satan while facing Peter because Peter was allowing satan to speak thru him. Secondly, the Lord appears to be addressing Peter (the person)directly and showing him his error. Pointing out his faulty thinking and thru this Jesus was making known to him that he was giving entrance to satan into his thoughts. MATTHEW 16:23- NASB But He turned and said to Peter, "Get behind Me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to Me; for you are not setting your mind on God's interests, but man's." KJV But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men. NIV Jesus turned and said to Peter, "Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men." Thank you for the post....always good thoughts when thinking about you my friend. God Bless, Maria
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10/19/2007 7:05 am |
Hi Precious Woman of God, I looked up three different translations and it appears to me that the one verse Matthew 16:23, is divided in two parts... First,I believe that Jesus spoke directly to satan while facing Peter because Peter was allowing satan to speak thru him. Secondly, the Lord appears to be addressing Peter (the person)directly and showing him his error. Pointing out his faulty thinking and thru this Jesus was making known to him that he was giving entrance to satan into his thoughts. MATTHEW 16:23- NASB But He turned and said to Peter, "Get behind Me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to Me; for you are not setting your mind on God's interests, but man's." KJV But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men. NIV Jesus turned and said to Peter, "Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men." Thank you for the post....always good thoughts when thinking about you my friend. God Bless, Maria I didn't recognize your new nickname. I have often wondered about you. While I was away for a time, I missed a lot of changes people made. I had you in my friends network, but they won't let me ask any more, but I be added by others. I will make my comments about the post after others have had a chance to remark. I have posted many things Jewish on my blog page, if you are interested. I would like to have a more personal contact with you, if you are willing. With Great Love & Blessings, Hiz4Ever † Vincit Veritas~Truth Conquers
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10/19/2007 12:29 pm |
DEAR FRIEND, I have visited your blog...certainly can spend lots of time there...it is chock full....a feast...for all. God Bless, love always in the sisterhood, Maria
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10/19/2007 4:09 pm |
I can imagine he did, we must remember not to get too hung up on details the important thing is this was yet another chance for Christ to openly explain his mission, his purpose and who was sending /had sent him and also explain to them he was God's son not just a man of power and truth. I think Peter got the message and the experience helped him later.
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10/19/2007 5:16 pm |
DEAR FRIEND, I have visited your blog...certainly can spend lots of time there...it is chock full....a feast...for all. God Bless, love always in the sisterhood, Maria I am speechless and ![]() You are so special. It would be great to spend time with you and hear the nuggets of gold and pearls of wisdom in your storehouse. God Bless you ! With Great Love & Blessings, Hiz4Ever † Vincit Veritas~Truth Conquers
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10/19/2007 5:19 pm |
Well this story is also told in Mark. In verse 8:32 we see: 32And he spake that saying openly. And Peter took him aside, and began to rebuke him. 33BThen he turned back and looked on his disciples, and rebuked Peter, saying, Get thee behind me, Satan: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but the things that be of men. So it seems that they were off to the side and Jesus turned to face the rest of the disciples. I think more importantly than whether he was facing him was the fact that he issued such a strong rebuke. Of course He rebuked Peter! He was talking to Peter, no question. But Satan was speaking through Peter and was the source. Peter was focused on an Earthly agenda and denying the Promise of The Lord and the power of Jesus Christ our King and Savior. Look at the verse in context (the best way to examine a Bible verse) and there is much more shocking activity going on: 16:21 From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day. 16:22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee. 16:23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men. 16:24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. 16:25 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it. So we see Peter rebuked Jesus! He was so focused on an Earthly agenda (survival) that he saw it fit to rebuke the Messiah. So needless to say, Peter had it coming. Now some may say that Peter was doing this because he cared about Jesus and did not want him to die. Maybe so, but Jesus rebuked Peter to let him know the urgency of the situation. it was BIGGER than Earthly human worries. Jesus was on a mission to save humanity and his death was a part of it. This is why he repeatedly told his disciples in advance, so when it happened they would know it was his plan. And most importantly, he would come back on the third day via resurrection!! Praise The Father! He was giving a message of glory but Peter could only see through a glass darkly, and hear of death and suffering, which is what Satan wants for all of us. So he was rebuked. But in Peter's defense, at this point in his life he was very emotional and reactionary (being human as we all are). he of course later became fully emboldened with The Holy Spirit and a great, great Apostle. So perhaps Jesus did turn his back on Peter. But I think it's safe to say it was justified and out of love. Praise The Father and our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Thanks for commenting here. I am waiting to post my comment to my question. I hope to give others the chance to remark. With Great Love & Blessings, Hiz4Ever † Vincit Veritas~Truth Conquers
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10/19/2007 5:25 pm |
I can imagine he did, we must remember not to get too hung up on details the important thing is this was yet another chance for Christ to openly explain his mission, his purpose and who was sending /had sent him and also explain to them he was God's son not just a man of power and truth. I think Peter got the message and the experience helped him later. I am not try to put details before the LORD and His ministry. I am asking a question to help me claify what I see or don't see. When something stops me and draws my focus, I have to seek out the matter. Welcome to BC and to the Blogs We hope to see more of you around here. You are welcome to comment here. With Great Love & Blessings, Hiz4Ever † Vincit Veritas~Truth Conquers
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10/19/2007 5:38 pm |
COME ON KINSMAN,hurry up we are watting for your view.LOL "This is the year of the favor of our God" "Your time has come to shine. All your dreams are on their way. See how they shine."(Bridge over troubled waters)
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10/19/2007 6:12 pm |
COME ON KINSMAN,hurry up we are watting for your view.LOL snicker snicker Patience is a Virtue. Vincit Veritas~Truth Conquers
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10/19/2007 8:30 pm |
How many will say that JESUS rebuked Peter to his face? "Get thee behind me, Satan: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but the things that be of men." Matthew 16 v 23 Jesus Predicts His Death and Resurrection But He turned and said to Peter, "Get behind Me. Satan! You are an offense to Me, for you are not mindful of the things of God, but the things of men." Jesus rebuked Peter to his face, in front of the other disciples. Don't kick the donkey Numbers 22 v 22
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10/20/2007 4:14 pm |
"This is the year of the favor of our God" "Your time has come to shine. All your dreams are on their way. See how they shine."(Bridge over troubled waters)
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10/21/2007 3:42 pm |
Ok...you will have to tell me what the drumming fingers mean. 1. It means you are still waiting for the answer; which I added at the top in the blog. 2. You are not quite sure you agree with my answer. 3. You have given up on me??? Talk to me brother.....please. With Great Love & Blessings, Hiz4Ever † Vincit Veritas~Truth Conquers
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10/21/2007 6:10 pm |
Beloved Stevie, Ok...you will have to tell me what the drumming fingers mean. 1. It means you are still waiting for the answer; which I added at the top in the blog. 2. You are not quite sure you agree with my answer. 3. You have given up on me??? Talk to me brother.....please. With Great Love & Blessings, Hiz4Ever † I like what you have sid and I tend to agree with it.The whole thing reminds me of an incident in my own life. As a young man and a drug addict,on my 21st birthday my closest friend handed me a birthday present of drugs.He said to me,"I don`t care where we end up with these drugs.I don`t care if we die,as long as we don`t end up as Born Again Christians". At the time I laughed at the thought of people like us being christians,but 6 months later I was on my knees. Looking back I do not hear my friend speaking but satan,planting the thought into my drug filled head,that even if I`m going to die,don`t become a christian. Well I was going to die and I did become a christian.Praise God. Good Post sister God Bless you stevie "This is the year of the favor of our God" "Your time has come to shine. All your dreams are on their way. See how they shine."(Bridge over troubled waters)
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10/21/2007 8:09 pm |
Sorry sister,the drumming fingers were me impatiently waiting for the answer.Foolish man that I am,I never checked the top of the post,I automatically thought you comments would come at the end.Sorry. I like what you have sid and I tend to agree with it.The whole thing reminds me of an incident in my own life. As a young man and a drug addict,on my 21st birthday my closest friend handed me a birthday present of drugs.He said to me,"I don`t care where we end up with these drugs.I don`t care if we die,as long as we don`t end up as Born Again Christians". At the time I laughed at the thought of people like us being christians,but 6 months later I was on my knees. Looking back I do not hear my friend speaking but satan,planting the thought into my drug filled head,that even if I`m going to die,don`t become a christian. Well I was going to die and I did become a christian.Praise God. Good Post sister God Bless you stevie Both satan and the LORD heard your words(prayer). I am so glad the LORD won. HE won anyway at the cross. Jesus died once for ALL man's(mankinds) souls. They just have to believe and receive. That is why we must carry the message in Love to ALL. With Great Love & Blessings, Hiz4Ever † Vincit Veritas~Truth Conquers
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10/21/2007 9:49 pm |
Jesus was speaking to Peter and yes HE did rebuke him, but HE was addressing both Peter and satan. In the same way HE tells satan to keep his hands off us, and if we are listening HE tells us when the enemy is seeking to use us. Wise and persuasive words are not enough! Nor is just living a good life. If I am to truly live, I must now serve HIM with my life! ...and so... Gal 2:20
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10/21/2007 10:41 pm |
Jesus was speaking to Peter and yes HE did rebuke him, but HE was addressing both Peter and satan. In the same way HE tells satan to keep his hands off us, and if we are listening HE tells us when the enemy is seeking to use us. Thanks for reading and commenting. I believe DAKE's BIBLE tells of it being a two-sided such conversation. I posted this blog because we tend to miss the fine print and it can certainly change the whole scenario and cause our thoughts to be different as well. With Great Love & Blessings, Hiz4Ever † Vincit Veritas~Truth Conquers
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