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CAN YOU LOSE YOUR SALVATION???????
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well,if you can, i suggest you call the manufacturer immediately and have it replaced. or, you might want to consider replacing the manufacturer! i was given my salvation about 26 years ago,it was made by JESUS,THE SAVIOR. well, He guarentees His work. in fact He guarenteed it over 2000 years ago,when he said "It Is FINISHED" so,if you go to the One who made my salvation,you can have the confidence that nothing could ever unfinish,what God has already finished! 
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 9/10/2009 10:56 am |
LOL... AMEN Banana and toothbrushes... Oh no not again... lol Life is too short so Lighten Up a bit...
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9/10/2009 12:08 pm |
Amen and Amen--Great Post!! Blessings--DeeDee
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9/10/2009 12:12 pm |
All I know is that I am firmly planted in Christ. The Holy Spirit evidences inside me that I belong to Christ. Romans 8:16 - The Spirit Himself testifies with our spirit that we are children of God, If we argue you cannot lose your salvation, it gives people a false sense of security, that they don't have to be in right relationship. If we argue that you can be lost, people lose their faith in their salvation and the finished work of Christ.
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9/10/2009 1:19 pm |
LOL... AMEN 
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9/10/2009 1:20 pm |
Amen and Amen--Great Post!! Blessings--DeeDee blessings!
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9/10/2009 1:22 pm |
All I know is that I am firmly planted in Christ. The Holy Spirit evidences inside me that I belong to Christ. Romans 8:16 - The Spirit Himself testifies with our spirit that we are children of God, If we argue you cannot lose your salvation, it gives people a false sense of security, that they don't have to be in right relationship. If we argue that you can be lost, people lose their faith in their salvation and the finished work of Christ.
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9/10/2009 2:20 pm |
loving this brother  ♥ Maryann ♥ He Who Kneels Before God Can Stand Before Anyone +++++..... This Is Consuming My Life ....+++++
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9/10/2009 3:15 pm |
All I know is that I am firmly planted in Christ. The Holy Spirit evidences inside me that I belong to Christ. Romans 8:16 - The Spirit Himself testifies with our spirit that we are children of God, If we argue you cannot lose your salvation, it gives people a false sense of security, that they don't have to be in right relationship. If we argue that you can be lost, people lose their faith in their salvation and the finished work of Christ. The only people who live with a false sense of security; are those who are trusting in themselves ( and their works ) to remain in a right relationship with Christ. Where do people like you and Claudia, come off with turning Christ into a liar ? No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 1 Cor. 2: 7
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9/10/2009 3:31 pm |
The obvious only correct answer to your question is NO. Jesus is the GOOD SHEPHERD, who watches over His flock, if one wonders off He goes after it, and returns it to the flock ( thats what a good shepherd does ). None will slip through HIS fingers, or fall away. Its sad when some who profess to know Christ; turn Him into a hired hand, who cares not for the sheep, and would allow them to wonder off, and be eaten by wolves ( or fall off of a cliff ). I know my Savior has me in HIS HAND......and will never let me go. ALL glory to Him who is able to do above and beyond what we could ever hope for. No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 1 Cor. 2: 7
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9/10/2009 3:44 pm |
If my wife was able to get online, she'd say NO!! and blessings on you onamission. NdnThomas and Ladylightwalker forever. .
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9/10/2009 4:38 pm |
Yes I think people can lose their salvation. Jesus illustrated that in the parable of the sower. I think that is in Matthew 13:. Satan can take away the seed that was sown in that person, and as a result, the person loses his salvation because circumstances affect him or her more than God's love.
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9/10/2009 6:52 pm |
If... I can lose my salvation... ...How bad to I have to get to lose it? How many fibs do I have to tell? How many bugs do I have to step on? Where's that fine line between keeping and losing? e.g. can I eek out 456 lil fibs, and at the 457th, God says "That's it! You are now lost.I'm erasing your name from my Book of Life." If I can lose my salvation, and I later turn from my wicked ways, and repent, can I get it back? Then, years later, can I lose it again? And, after that, can I get it back again? And, can I lose it again? And, can I.... Round n round it goes.. I totally agree with Onamisionforgod. Jesus, My Saviour, guarantees His work. "It is finished." Amen! Greetins from Calgary Alberta. Canada's wild west. I
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9/10/2009 7:04 pm |
If... I can lose my salvation... ...How bad to I have to get to lose it? How many fibs do I have to tell? How many bugs do I have to step on? Where's that fine line between keeping and losing? e.g. can I eek out 456 lil fibs, and at the 457th, God says "That's it! You are now lost.I'm erasing your name from my Book of Life." If I can lose my salvation, and I later turn from my wicked ways, and repent, can I get it back? Then, years later, can I lose it again? And, after that, can I get it back again? And, can I lose it again? And, can I.... Round n round it goes.. I totally agree with Onamisionforgod. Jesus, My Saviour, guarantees His work. "It is finished." Amen!
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9/10/2009 7:43 pm |
If... I can lose my salvation... ...How bad to I have to get to lose it? How many fibs do I have to tell? How many bugs do I have to step on? Where's that fine line between keeping and losing? e.g. can I eek out 456 lil fibs, and at the 457th, God says "That's it! You are now lost.I'm erasing your name from my Book of Life." If I can lose my salvation, and I later turn from my wicked ways, and repent, can I get it back? Then, years later, can I lose it again? And, after that, can I get it back again? And, can I lose it again? And, can I.... Round n round it goes.. I totally agree with Onamisionforgod. Jesus, My Saviour, guarantees His work. "It is finished." Amen! Banana and toothbrushes... Oh no not again... lol Life is too short so Lighten Up a bit...
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9/10/2009 9:00 pm |
Yes I think people can lose their salvation. Jesus illustrated that in the parable of the sower. I think that is in Matthew 13:. Satan can take away the seed that was sown in that person, and as a result, the person loses his salvation because circumstances affect him or her more than God's love. " And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all that he has given me, but raise them up at the last day. " John 6:39 Jesus promises not to lose any ( none ) of His sheep, but you say you believe that " people " can lose their salvation based on the parable of the sower. May I suggest that you read that again. The parable of the sower IS NOT an illustration, which shows how a Christian can be lost. " But the seed on good soil stands for those with a noble and good heart, who hear the word, RETAIN IT, and by persevering produce a crop. Luke 8:15 The parable of the sower illustrates the different places on which the seed ( the Word ) fell. Some fell along the path; some fell on rock, some fell among thorns, and appeared to grow but was choked. Only the soil that produces a crop yielding a hundred times more, describes the true believer. No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 1 Cor. 2: 7
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9/10/2009 10:56 pm |
Hey MARCOS this is sooooo cool, LOL... you are tooooo funny! Rom. 5:8 while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us
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9/10/2009 11:00 pm |
If... I can lose my salvation... ...How bad to I have to get to lose it? How many fibs do I have to tell? How many bugs do I have to step on? Where's that fine line between keeping and losing? e.g. can I eek out 456 lil fibs, and at the 457th, God says "That's it! You are now lost.I'm erasing your name from my Book of Life." If I can lose my salvation, and I later turn from my wicked ways, and repent, can I get it back? Then, years later, can I lose it again? And, after that, can I get it back again? And, can I lose it again? And, can I.... Round n round it goes.. I totally agree with Onamisionforgod. Jesus, My Saviour, guarantees His work. "It is finished." Amen! Rom. 5:8 while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us
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9/10/2009 11:02 pm |
LOL... AMEN  Rom. 5:8 while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us
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9/10/2009 11:04 pm |
Yes I think people can lose their salvation. Jesus illustrated that in the parable of the sower. I think that is in Matthew 13:. Satan can take away the seed that was sown in that person, and as a result, the person loses his salvation because circumstances affect him or her more than God's love. Rom. 5:8 while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us
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9/11/2009 4:31 am |
So what is it that YOU are LAUGHING out LOUD about Mr. Yendor... "i suggest you call the manufacturer immediately and have it replaced. or, you might want to consider replacing the manufacturer!" So true and so funny!.. lol Banana and toothbrushes... Oh no not again... lol Life is too short so Lighten Up a bit...
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9/11/2009 7:21 am |
loving this brother Amen,and Amen! Its good to see that you are still posting!
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9/11/2009 7:24 am |
If my wife was able to get online, she'd say NO!! and blessings on you onamission. thanks for stoping by!
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9/11/2009 7:28 am |
Yes I think people can lose their salvation. Jesus illustrated that in the parable of the sower. I think that is in Matthew 13:. Satan can take away the seed that was sown in that person, and as a result, the person loses his salvation because circumstances affect him or her more than God's love. i pray God will heal your soul! thanks for posting!
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9/11/2009 7:51 am |
If... I can lose my salvation... ...How bad to I have to get to lose it? How many fibs do I have to tell? How many bugs do I have to step on? Where's that fine line between keeping and losing? e.g. can I eek out 456 lil fibs, and at the 457th, God says "That's it! You are now lost.I'm erasing your name from my Book of Life." If I can lose my salvation, and I later turn from my wicked ways, and repent, can I get it back? Then, years later, can I lose it again? And, after that, can I get it back again? And, can I lose it again? And, can I.... Round n round it goes.. I totally agree with Onamisionforgod. Jesus, My Saviour, guarantees His work. "It is finished." Amen! so well said! to believe you can lose your salvation,is to beleive one is stronger than God Himself! when a person comes to know God,they understand that He is immovable, this is why the bible says we must seek to know him,to understand who He is,and what He has given us! JOHN 17:3what are these christians thinking,that their sins are to heavy for God???? That God will fall down,and lose his balance,because this mighty sinners sins are so mighty that Jesus can not cast those sins into the sea???? unfortunately,that is just how silly it sounds, these christians have too much faith in themselves,and not enough faith in their SAVIOR! amen,you said it well,their focus is on the strength of their own sin, think how sad it must be for them to think"oh my sins are to big for Jesus" and what about the power of His Blood??????? The Blood of God Himself,the Blood of the Creator of every thing, was shed for them! one drop of His blood,can remove the sins of the entire world! these christians desperately need more faith because satan is playing with their minds! WHEN JESUS SAID IT IS FINISHED,HE MEANT IT IS FINISHED! He could very easily tell these christians "Oh yea of little faith!" again,thanks for posting!
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9/11/2009 7:55 am |
Hey MARCOS this is sooooo cool, LOL... you are tooooo funny! I am glad you enjoyed it,i hope this post doesnt sound too preachy. 
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9/11/2009 8:09 am |
I just loved the way Marcos put it out there "so matter of fact".. lol ..plan and simple... "i suggest you call the manufacturer immediately and have it replaced. or, you might want to consider replacing the manufacturer!" So true and so funny!.. lol i just try to make it as simple as i can,to help the christians who are struggling with this,to have more faith in God! if it takes a little comedy to help them out,well then so be it!
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9/11/2009 12:08 pm |
The obvious only correct answer to your question is NO. Jesus is the GOOD SHEPHERD, who watches over His flock, if one wonders off He goes after it, and returns it to the flock ( thats what a good shepherd does ). None will slip through HIS fingers, or fall away. Its sad when some who profess to know Christ; turn Him into a hired hand, who cares not for the sheep, and would allow them to wonder off, and be eaten by wolves ( or fall off of a cliff ). I know my Savior has me in HIS HAND......and will never let me go. ALL glory to Him who is able to do above and beyond what we could ever hope for. thanks for posting!
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9/11/2009 5:31 pm |
If a Christian can lose his ( or her ) salvation then you make Christ a lair !! He ( Christ ) promised not to lose any of His sheep !! " And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all that he has given me, but raise them up at the last day. " John 6:39 Jesus promises not to lose any ( none ) of His sheep, but you say you believe that " people " can lose their salvation based on the parable of the sower. May I suggest that you read that again. The parable of the sower IS NOT an illustration, which shows how a Christian can be lost. " But the seed on good soil stands for those with a noble and good heart, who hear the word, RETAIN IT, and by persevering produce a crop. Luke 8:15 The parable of the sower illustrates the different places on which the seed ( the Word ) fell. Some fell along the path; some fell on rock, some fell among thorns, and appeared to grow but was choked. Only the soil that produces a crop yielding a hundred times more, describes the true believer. A promise is not a will. Then you go on to say that John 6:39 says that Jesus promises not to lose any. Well usually if one is truly saved he or she will stay saved. But the parable of the sower does say that a person can hear the word and become unfruitful or a person can not understand the word of the gospel and then Satan will take away the word sown. That latter illustrates that it's possible many can claim they are saved but in reality do not really understand the word. Therefore the word that was sown can be taken away by Satan. It is the words of God (gospel)that bring salvation. If that is taken away from those who do not understand then they are not saved. So you are wrong as well saying the parable of the sower is to show how a Christian can be lost when the first example in the parable says Satan takes away the word of the gospel that was sown in a person. That is the gospel that brings salvation. How can one be saved if the gospel that was sown to them was taken away by Satan? The point is that all those that are given to Christ by God are the ones truly saved. Who are those people? If one is not born of the water and the spirit then they are not saved. So how is some simple prayer can save someone or just the idea that 'it is finished' gives someone access to heaven? Obviously one has to believe. The thief on the cross believed in Christ and Jesus saw his heart and saved him. The thief believed in the cross and the words of Christ. If 'it is finished' saved anyone then that would make the total words of John chapter 6 a lie. We have to believe in Christ. We have to know what Christ said and what Christ did to be saved. He is the Son of God.
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9/11/2009 9:57 pm |
Godlycook, I am glad there isn't a verse that sounds like your first sentence in your post. But you have to read very carefully. It is the will of God who sent Jesus that none given to Christ will be lost. Again read that verse. In Peter it reads too that God is not willing that anyone should perish. Doesn't mean that's a promise that all will be saved either. A promise is not a will. Then you go on to say that John 6:39 says that Jesus promises not to lose any. Well usually if one is truly saved he or she will stay saved. But the parable of the sower does say that a person can hear the word and become unfruitful or a person can not understand the word of the gospel and then Satan will take away the word sown. That latter illustrates that it's possible many can claim they are saved but in reality do not really understand the word. Therefore the word that was sown can be taken away by Satan. It is the words of God (gospel)that bring salvation. If that is taken away from those who do not understand then they are not saved. So you are wrong as well saying the parable of the sower is to show how a Christian can be lost when the first example in the parable says Satan takes away the word of the gospel that was sown in a person. That is the gospel that brings salvation. How can one be saved if the gospel that was sown to them was taken away by Satan? The point is that all those that are given to Christ by God are the ones truly saved. Who are those people? If one is not born of the water and the spirit then they are not saved. So how is some simple prayer can save someone or just the idea that 'it is finished' gives someone access to heaven? Obviously one has to believe. The thief on the cross believed in Christ and Jesus saw his heart and saved him. The thief believed in the cross and the words of Christ. If 'it is finished' saved anyone then that would make the total words of John chapter 6 a lie. We have to believe in Christ. We have to know what Christ said and what Christ did to be saved. He is the Son of God. " The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward US, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance. " Who do you think Peter is talking about when he says " toward us " ? Who is he trying to comfort concerning the coming of the Lord ? Not unbelievers. God is not slack concerning His promise ( Just as Jesus explained ) that none ( of the sheep ) would be lost ( or perish ). I explained the parable of the sower correctly, the only soil which refers to the believer is the good soil; which retains the word and produces a crop. Satan can't snatch away what God has given to His sheep. And as Jesus stated.....He will raise them all on the last day. No truly born-again Christian; is going to miss the first resurrection. None will be left behind, to face the second death ( the lake of fire ) where the beast and the false prophets go. All those whom God opens their hearts; to be able to receive the message are the good soil, which God has prepared in advance to follow Christ, even if it cost them their lives. They never will deny their Lord. No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 1 Cor. 2: 7
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9/11/2009 10:48 pm |
Amen Priscilla! I am glad you enjoyed it,i hope this post doesnt sound too preachy. Rom. 5:8 while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us
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9/12/2009 6:39 am |
Marcos, Good to see you again! Jesus has us in the palm of His hands- but nothing says that we can't make a decision to jump out! There are plenty of verses talking about "falling away"-- if it wasn't possible- HE wouldn't have put it in there..... That's my short and sweet answer. God Bless
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9/12/2009 7:39 am |
Marcos, Good to see you again! Jesus has us in the palm of His hands- but nothing says that we can't make a decision to jump out! There are plenty of verses talking about "falling away"-- if it wasn't possible- HE wouldn't have put it in there..... That's my short and sweet answer. God Bless it is great to hear from you again! well,my good old friend,if that is your view,then may God bless you and keep you with it! i guess,The Father just allows you think you could actually run away from His eternal love for you,how cute is that! to me,thats just another example of His infinite love and wisdom!
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9/12/2009 7:44 am |
HI SUZANNE! it is great to hear from you again! well,my good old friend,if that is your view,then may God bless you and keep you with it! i guess,The Father just allows you think you could actually run away from His eternal love for you,how cute is that! to me,thats just another example of His infinite love and wisdom! it should have read "The Father just allows you to think you could actually run away" sorry for the mistake
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9/12/2009 8:18 am |
Like the man said, "Plain and simple" 
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9/12/2009 1:21 pm |
Like the man said, "Plain and simple" great minds think alike!
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9/27/2009 6:20 am |
Contrary to what many people here believe, the doctrine of "once saved always saved" is not an idea that came from Jesus, nor was it an idea that was taught by the early Church, or any of the 12 Apostles. You see, God has given everyone free will, and many times the scriptures do in fact talk about those who had found salvation, but then turned away from it. This heretical *and yes it is a heresy people* that one can never loose eternal salvation and can never do anything to warrant eternal damnation is absurd. As long as an individual has free will (which clearly all Christians believe we have one) anyone at anytime can choose the path to perdition through the act of disobedience to God. Once again this is a case of Christians trying to have their cake and eat it too. When you you try to use the scriptures that state "IT IS FINISHED" You are clearly perverting the words of our Savior to better fit your own private interpretation (an interpretation not held by the early Christians I might add) to create a false Christianity that Christ does not even support, not any of his disciples. Yes it's true that Christs act of dying on the cross work was "finished" but the act of saving souls was not merely finished in one day. You see, through the work of the Church he established, which continually goes out to try to carry on his mission of leading souls to Christ, clearly not all of Christs work is "finished". For example, there are certain prophecies and judgement that Jesus will make on mankind, clearly the work of Jesus Christ is not "finished". Once again were getting things mixed up and taking things out of context.
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9/28/2009 1:26 pm |
Great question ! After studing this Topic for some 28 yrs God has shed Light on the answer The question is what is Salvation ? How does 1 attain it? Well its very Simple The Author of Salvation is Yahweh Himself! Salvation cant be produced from man !So if you think that in & of urself can Bring Salvation you have already fallen out of touch with recieving Salvation from the ONE who offers it Freely Also Salvation means: Deliverance! My question for anyone is have you been Delivered ? & Delivered from what ? Well Gods Salvation is for mans sinful nature thats automatically in him once born into this world !Man needs to be DELIVERED [ Salvation ] from there Sinful Nature! & guess what folks only can the COMPLETE WORK done by Yahweh Himself on that tree called Calvery can bring a person this Salvation !Read acts 4:12 Ok back to the question  can a person Lose there Salvation? Answer is Yes& No ! A person who thinks by simply believing in the Person of Jesus Christ recieves Salvation is far from the Truth to recieve Gods Salvation ! satan & his devils Believe in Jesus Christ & they KNOW who HE is ! They my friends will NEVER recieve Gods Salvation ! So is the same with people that THINK just by believing in JESUS is how 1 recieves Salvation ! Jesus first words were: REPENT for the Kingdom of God is @ hand ! If you really want to recieve the Free gift of Salvation that God Himself offers to the world a person needs to REPENT first! I know & im also CONVINCED that if the SEED of God is in YOU you can NEVER lose this Salvation that GOD has given YOU God isnt going to re-nig on HIS PROMISE !Heres a few things id like to throw out there as to CHECK your own SELF out as to see if GODS HOLY SPIRIT is truly in you: Do you LOVE all?1st John 4:11&12&vs 20 also Read Luke 6:32-35 Ok have you consider the cost of being 1 of Christs Disciples Luke 14:26-35 2nd Cor. 5:14&15 Are you crucifying the Flesh? Gal.5:24 Romans 6:6 &12-14 If YOU live a life of Iniquity I would asking myself have i ever really recieved SALVATION from GOD . You see Gods Salvation brings Deliverence! Gods Salvation sets a person FREE from the powers of SIN & DEATH ! So can a person lose there Salvation ? My question would be has the Person ever Recieved True Salvation? Gods Salvation is Seccure for those who have Recieved it ! Blessings to you all  In Christs Love Mark !
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9/28/2009 1:39 pm |
Catholic ? Have you EVER read that if YOU BELONG to GOD that you DONT belong to urself anymore? Catholic who is the AUTHOR & FINISHER of the FAITH that GOD Hmself gave to YOU ? Catholic if a PERSON loses there Salvation it means that they were NEVER Sealed unto the DAY of Redeemption as Gods word CLEARLY teaches for those who are BOUGHT by GOD Himself ! Keep studing Catholic & may the LORD do Great things through YOU to bring HIS NAME Honor & Glory ! In Christs Love : Mark
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9/28/2009 9:05 pm |
We don't have complete free will,God allows us to have some free will but to beleive your better than others because of your doing is wrong,you can't freely choose what race you will be or what gender you will be,do bad people really want to live like that if they had a choice?do homosexuals want to live that way if they had a choice to be straight?As a matter of scriptual fact we don't have the free will to choose the Lord Jesus Christ as our Savior as He chooses us.The Lord draws to Himself those that belong to Him,we can't put the glory to ourselves as if we can earn salvation.God knows the beginning to the end and some are born into salvation and nothing,not even satan can change it,how we know if we belong to the Lord is easy,we love God with all our heart and soul and always put Him first,we love all people including those that hate us,we do good works naturally not to earn salvation but because we care about others.The scriptures are clear only to true followers.But those living in a sinful nature of self-pride and greed{having more than you need while others starve to death} can't understand. "John10:14"I am the good Shepperd,i know my sheep and MY SHEEP KNOW ME"John6:37-39"All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will certainly not cast out. This is the will of Him who sent Me, that of all that He has given Me I lose nothing, but raise it up on the last day"John15:16""YOU DID NOT CHOOSE ME BUT I CHOSE YOU, and appointed you that you would go and bear fruit, and that your fruit would remain, so that whatever you ask of the Father in My name He may give to you"
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9/29/2009 6:52 pm |
Contrary to what many people here believe, the doctrine of "once saved always saved" is not an idea that came from Jesus, nor was it an idea that was taught by the early Church, or any of the 12 Apostles. You see, God has given everyone free will, and many times the scriptures do in fact talk about those who had found salvation, but then turned away from it. This heretical *and yes it is a heresy people* that one can never loose eternal salvation and can never do anything to warrant eternal damnation is absurd. As long as an individual has free will (which clearly all Christians believe we have one) anyone at anytime can choose the path to perdition through the act of disobedience to God. Once again this is a case of Christians trying to have their cake and eat it too. When you you try to use the scriptures that state "IT IS FINISHED" You are clearly perverting the words of our Savior to better fit your own private interpretation (an interpretation not held by the early Christians I might add) to create a false Christianity that Christ does not even support, not any of his disciples. Yes it's true that Christs act of dying on the cross work was "finished" but the act of saving souls was not merely finished in one day. You see, through the work of the Church he established, which continually goes out to try to carry on his mission of leading souls to Christ, clearly not all of Christs work is "finished". For example, there are certain prophecies and judgement that Jesus will make on mankind, clearly the work of Jesus Christ is not "finished". Once again were getting things mixed up and taking things out of context. in other words,you have fallen for a false belief. we must always keep our focus on Christ,not on a man made religion.
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9/30/2009 7:12 am |
Catholic ? Have you EVER read that if YOU BELONG to GOD that you DONT belong to urself anymore? Catholic who is the AUTHOR & FINISHER of the FAITH that GOD Hmself gave to YOU ? Catholic if a PERSON loses there Salvation it means that they were NEVER Sealed unto the DAY of Redeemption as Gods word CLEARLY teaches for those who are BOUGHT by GOD Himself ! Keep studing Catholic & may the LORD do Great things through YOU to bring HIS NAME Honor & Glory ! In Christs Love : Mark
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9/30/2009 7:19 am |
We don't have complete free will,God allows us to have some free will but to beleive your better than others because of your doing is wrong,you can't freely choose what race you will be or what gender you will be,do bad people really want to live like that if they had a choice?do homosexuals want to live that way if they had a choice to be straight?As a matter of scriptual fact we don't have the free will to choose the Lord Jesus Christ as our Savior as He chooses us.The Lord draws to Himself those that belong to Him,we can't put the glory to ourselves as if we can earn salvation.God knows the beginning to the end and some are born into salvation and nothing,not even satan can change it,how we know if we belong to the Lord is easy,we love God with all our heart and soul and always put Him first,we love all people including those that hate us,we do good works naturally not to earn salvation but because we care about others.The scriptures are clear only to true followers.But those living in a sinful nature of self-pride and greed{having more than you need while others starve to death} can't understand. "John10:14"I am the good Shepperd,i know my sheep and MY SHEEP KNOW ME"John6:37-39"All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will certainly not cast out. This is the will of Him who sent Me, that of all that He has given Me I lose nothing, but raise it up on the last day"John15:16""YOU DID NOT CHOOSE ME BUT I CHOSE YOU, and appointed you that you would go and bear fruit, and that your fruit would remain, so that whatever you ask of the Father in My name He may give to you" amen,and amen! although i will add that homosexuality is a demonic possession,and even though a homosexual is not sure God had chosen them,they should still seek liberation from that demon. and who knows,maybe that jesture of faith can provoke the mercy of God to even save that person of course God would have known all along that that person was already destined for salvation anyway!
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10/3/2009 8:35 pm |
excellent brother,very well said! amen,and amen! although i will add that homosexuality is a demonic possession,and even though a homosexual is not sure God had chosen them,they should still seek liberation from that demon. and who knows,maybe that jesture of faith can provoke the mercy of God to even save that person of course God would have known all along that that person was already destined for salvation anyway!
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10/4/2009 8:38 am |
Well there is no scripture that teaches homosexuality is demonic possession,if there is can you tell me where in the Bible i can read it? Yes homosexuals know they love God with all their heart and soul and they were chosen by God,if they weren't sure why would they try to obey the ways of God? why not just agree with Christians they should realize they hate God and are going to hell and just live sinful lives? why don't most Christians seek liberation from demonic possession of greed{having more than you need while children starve to death}self-pride,love of the world{worldly possessions that keep the mind away from God}being hypocrites(the sin that angered the Lord the most}I do like what you ended your post with"of course God would have known all along that that person was already destined for salvation anyway!" but the smiley face suggests you may of been committing the sin of telling a lie? I don't know how i missed the scriptures that teach homosexuality is demonic possession!It has nothing to do with wrong upbringing,not having a strong role model,being raped as a child,feeling rejected and hated by your father etc,its because of the devil!Please let me know the scriptures,all of them that teach"homosexuality is a demonic possession,and even though a homosexual is not sure God had chosen them" thanks! people are not born homosexuals. let me give you a scripture. "satan came to kill,steal,and destroy" the very nature of satan is to steal, there are scriptures that refer to demons of a "foul" nature possessing a person,or "unclean", now if you think homosexuality is clean,then your problem is more in the area of being "deceived" you must first realize you were deceived before you can even realize you were robbed. homosexuality robs a person of their "identity",they eventually think they are of a different gender,therefor you know the enemy is at work. this is why i believe this is a sin that can involve demonic possession,or maybe just demonic oppression. for example,micheal jackson,was possessed by a demon. i know this because his identity was stolen,not in the area of "gender" only,but also in the area of "race" . he was deceived by the enemy,he refused to acknowledge that he was of African American decent,he tried to make himself a Caucasian. here is more proof of demonic possession,satan at his greatest advantage"the theft of ones identity" when ever you see that,it is no longer just disobedience,it is no longer just being deceived,there is now evidence of satanic possession,and or oppression.
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10/5/2009 4:09 pm |
Well there is no scripture that teaches homosexuality is demonic possession,if there is can you tell me where in the Bible i can read it? Yes homosexuals know they love God with all their heart and soul and they were chosen by God,if they weren't sure why would they try to obey the ways of God? why not just agree with Christians they should realize they hate God and are going to hell and just live sinful lives? why don't most Christians seek liberation from demonic possession of greed{having more than you need while children starve to death}self-pride,love of the world{worldly possessions that keep the mind away from God}being hypocrites(the sin that angered the Lord the most}I do like what you ended your post with"of course God would have known all along that that person was already destined for salvation anyway!" but the smiley face suggests you may of been committing the sin of telling a lie? I don't know how i missed the scriptures that teach homosexuality is demonic possession!It has nothing to do with wrong upbringing,not having a strong role model,being raped as a child,feeling rejected and hated by your father etc,its because of the devil!Please let me know the scriptures,all of them that teach"homosexuality is a demonic possession,and even though a homosexual is not sure God had chosen them" thanks! i think it is because i used a celebrities name,oh well,who knows. any way........ to make a long story short,homosexuality is wrong,and that is that!!!! and yes,it is an "unclean",or "foul" spirit.(wich means it does involve demonic possesion) and if you dont like my comments,thats just fine,but i will not be going back and forth with you,on my bloggy. so take your ideas somewhere else,cause i aint in the mood to be arguing. i dont feel like thinking anymore today,i was at school all day,and now i have to study at home,so argue with your self in the mirror or somethin,please,thankyou,and thankyou,and please,and may the good Lord take a liking to ya!! adios!
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10/5/2009 7:57 pm |
I just asked for the scriptures that homosexuals are demon possessed,if you can't present it don't say it.I agree homosexuality is sin.Well it dosen't take much for a person to show what they really are."and yes,it is an "unclean",or "foul" spirit.(wich means it does involve demonic possesion)" where is the scripture???? you go to school because of your desire for rich's and worldly position,why not try studying the Bible so you don't become a stumbling block,study history,culture of that time and the Bible will become more clear.
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10/6/2009 7:37 am |
I just asked for the scriptures that homosexuals are demon possessed,if you can't present it don't say it.I agree homosexuality is sin.Well it dosen't take much for a person to show what they really are."and yes,it is an "unclean",or "foul" spirit.(wich means it does involve demonic possesion)" where is the scripture???? you go to school because of your desire for rich's and worldly position,why not try studying the Bible so you don't become a stumbling block,study history,culture of that time and the Bible will become more clear. let it go,you agree it is wrong,if a foul spirit does not convince you,then the disobedience factor should!! wrong is wrong,period!!!!
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10/6/2009 12:16 pm |
ok,that post finally showed up,its the one dated 10/04/09 at 10:38am. i hope it helps you,stophate2!
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10/6/2009 7:18 pm |
are you saying that someone can be born a homosexual????? people are not born homosexuals. let me give you a scripture. "satan came to kill,steal,and destroy" the very nature of satan is to steal, there are scriptures that refer to demons of a "foul" nature possessing a person,or "unclean", now if you think homosexuality is clean,then your problem is more in the area of being "deceived" you must first realize you were deceived before you can even realize you were robbed. homosexuality robs a person of their "identity",they eventually think they are of a different gender,therefor you know the enemy is at work. this is why i believe this is a sin that can involve demonic possession,or maybe just demonic oppression. for example,micheal jackson,was possessed by a demon. i know this because his identity was stolen,not in the area of "gender" only,but also in the area of "race" . he was deceived by the enemy,he refused to acknowledge that he was of African American decent,he tried to make himself a Caucasian. here is more proof of demonic possession,satan at his greatest advantage"the theft of ones identity" when ever you see that,it is no longer just disobedience,it is no longer just being deceived,there is now evidence of satanic possession,and or oppression.
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10/6/2009 7:40 pm |
you do not have to agree that it is demonic possesion,but you do agree that it is sin,so then what is your problem?? let it go,you agree it is wrong,if a foul spirit does not convince you,then the disobedience factor should!! wrong is wrong,period!!!!
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10/7/2009 6:05 am |
I always said it was sin that must be overcome in the Lord Jesus Christ.You ask what my problem is? There are many studies for a long time that tell us under what circumstances a person can become gay,my former post touched on the most likely.Now a straight is unlikely to have gay sex,unless their bi-sexual,or as Romans1 teaches us because of shutting God out and being involved in ritual gay sex to the creature/gods,this is one example why history and culture of that time is important in understanding scripture,Paul wrote that letter to only the roman church.No gay person has been healed by laying on of hands to remove demonic possession,it is not taught in scripture as demon possession,teaching a lie can do much harm.The only way to heal is to admit its sin and stop,such as celibacy,and allow the Lord to heal completely this deep-rooted sin in His time.The fact a active gay loves God and accepts the Lord Jesus Christ as Savior is proof that that person is a believer,follower and saved.Unless what the apostle John taught was a lie. but for a gay,to not be possedsed by a demon,i will agree with you on that,after all,anything is possible. because disobedience is truly an act of the will,defiance to God. so,it does not neccessarily have to involve possesion. having said that,if the person is unable to be liberated from this sin,or if their will is fighting this sin,then i would say there would have to be a case of demonic possesion,and childhood problems,emotional hurt,and feeling rejected as a child,all of that is no excuse for being gay,that is just a scape goat.
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10/7/2009 10:51 pm |
Can one gain salvation by their own doing? Salvation belongs to the one who gives it. Why listen to me? John 10:28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand
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10/8/2009 9:10 pm |
a gossiper can also be possesed with a spirit of gossip,i agree with that. but for a gay,to not be possedsed by a demon,i will agree with you on that,after all,anything is possible. because disobedience is truly an act of the will,defiance to God. so,it does not neccessarily have to involve possesion. having said that,if the person is unable to be liberated from this sin,or if their will is fighting this sin,then i would say there would have to be a case of demonic possesion,and childhood problems,emotional hurt,and feeling rejected as a child,all of that is no excuse for being gay,that is just a scape goat. "childhood problems,emotional hurt,and feeling rejected as a child,all of that is no excuse for being gay,that is just a scape goat" yes they use that as an excuse to stay gay because they like it so much,get real! with your self proclaimed faith you could drive the demon out and heal them,why not start a ministry like that? you could then be doing God's work instead of just being a stumbling block..no offense intended.
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10/9/2009 6:01 am |
Can one gain salvation by their own doing? Salvation belongs to the one who gives it. Why listen to me? John 10:28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand
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10/9/2009 6:10 am |
The Lord taught so much about greed,love of the world,being wealthy as sin that will keep us out of the kingdom of God,and most Christians are guilty of having more than we need,so all Christians would be possessed by demons? Are you not possessed by demons? do you have the faith to obey the Lord in all things?Do Christians try to overcome greed{having more than you need to survive}you said "childhood problems,emotional hurt,and feeling rejected as a child,all of that is no excuse for being gay,that is just a scape goat" yes they use that as an excuse to stay gay because they like it so much,get real! with your self proclaimed faith you could drive the demon out and heal them,why not start a ministry like that? you could then be doing God's work instead of just being a stumbling block..no offense intended. well you arent the first,and you wont be the last! it appears to me that you have two things that you need to do: one,to get mad and TWO,TO GET OVER IT!!! because thats the way it is,if you dont like it,than i suggest you find some other blog that will be more sympathetic to your wishy,washy beliefs! i dont see the need for us to discuss this any further.
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10/10/2009 7:10 pm |
Your right i don't know what you beleive,all i know is your a proven hypocrite that can't handle it when your sinful lifestyle is questioned,your a typical part time Christian,you don't have the ability to discuss,only cast stones.... so continue to enjoy the pleasures of the world
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10/11/2009 9:10 am |
Your right i don't know what you beleive,all i know is your a proven hypocrite that can't handle it when your sinful lifestyle is questioned,your a typical part time Christian,you don't have the ability to discuss,only cast stones.... so continue to enjoy the pleasures of the world you come to my blog telling me how you like homosexuals, and that you think that homosexuals are just the best folks ever. now how does that make me a bad person????? i just told you that homosexuality is a sin,and that it involves demonic possession,now if you don't want to repent,or you don't want your friend to repent,how does that make me your enemy??? i am just the messenger!!! maybe you should find a different website that relates more to you??? this is a christian website,that deals with christian folk,with christian subjects.now if you reject christian theology that relates to the subject of homosexuality,than perhaps you should go to another website that embraces your ideas. now,if you recall,i told you at the very beginning of this conversation,that i really didn't have the time to go through this nonsense with you. if you continue with this subject,i am going to have to ban you from my blog. i have alot of studying to do with this computer course i just started.i log on to big church to speak to my friends on this site, i don't come to this site to waste my time with people who are trying to change the bible,this to me is a huge waste of time. again,the next time you post about this subject i will have to ban you from my blog.
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10/12/2009 12:07 am |
I have repented 3 years ago,and i work for the Lord in bringing other lost gays to repentence so your remarks make no sense,its never been about me,i will confront people with hate that don't understand the teachings of the Lord Jesus Christ,i understand your worldly pursuits are of utmost importance.You changed the Bible with demonic nonsense that you can't provide scripture for,you added your hateful ides into the scriptures.I do notice you don't provide scripture but your brainwashed ideals,i have opened my heart to love all people as the Lord taught,i also never said you were a bad person,i said your a hypocrite because you live a sinful lifestyle yet cast stones of hate and ignorance.Then again its probably your demons causing you to be a stumbling block.Ban me if you want,typical responce of part-time christians,have you ever wanted to be a follower of the Lord? Many things you accused me of are lies.
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10/13/2009 5:29 pm |
I have repented 3 years ago,and i work for the Lord in bringing other lost gays to repentence so your remarks make no sense,its never been about me,i will confront people with hate that don't understand the teachings of the Lord Jesus Christ,i understand your worldly pursuits are of utmost importance.You changed the Bible with demonic nonsense that you can't provide scripture for,you added your hateful ides into the scriptures.I do notice you don't provide scripture but your brainwashed ideals,i have opened my heart to love all people as the Lord taught,i also never said you were a bad person,i said your a hypocrite because you live a sinful lifestyle yet cast stones of hate and ignorance.Then again its probably your demons causing you to be a stumbling block.Ban me if you want,typical responce of part-time christians,have you ever wanted to be a follower of the Lord? Many things you accused me of are lies. God bless you,and may you have many more victories in the future as well!
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10/13/2009 9:02 pm |
ok,brother. God bless you,and may you have many more victories in the future as well!
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10/14/2009 10:14 am |
The victories are not mine as I'm a tool used by the Lord Jesus Christ to bring the lost to Him by teaching the truth,being a friend and caring,healing can only be possible in the Lord.But i know what you mean and thats nice...God bless you as well brother.
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