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What Does The Bible Say About Self-Stimulation ? |
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7/1/2007 10:08 pm |
Loki-did you ban one of my comments on here, or was it BC??? It said- Your comment has been denied due to the following reason: Banned Topics (hate/weapons/under age). Feel free to submit a new comment My comment did NOT have weapons/under age. I do NOT consider it Hate defending myself as NOT being as Independence calls it "repressed". Nor do I consider it Hate saying that it takes more Disipline CHOOSING to practice Self Control, than to resort to instant gratification. So I am wondering WHY it was banned, and WHO banned it?
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7/1/2007 9:58 pm |
However: this question brings up another topic of discussion: the difference between "fornication" and "adultery". Is there a difference, other than one being with a married person? Or are they synonyms (anyone got a thesaurus handy?)? Next question: how do I get back to this "room" after I leave? Shy fornication is having sex when you are not married adultery is having sex with someone who is not your spouse therefore I believe self stimulation is fornication if you are single I have this in my blog-Is self stimulation/masterbation a form of fornication? But since everybody is too convicted- nobody is responding or voting. I guess they think IF they don't respond or vote, they can continue in the act of self stimulation and not feel guilty. But not for long, cause God saw and knows who viewed my blog, and is avoiding it. I don't make the rules
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6/25/2007 3:06 pm |
However: this question brings up another topic of discussion: the difference between "fornication" and "adultery". Is there a difference, other than one being with a married person? Or are they synonyms (anyone got a thesaurus handy?)? Next question: how do I get back to this "room" after I leave? Shy
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6/25/2007 2:59 pm |
Spice-- thanks for catching my typo: I was wrong in the way I wrote that comment: "self stimulation" is wrong in God's eyes, I think. To post a response to your current querry: Yes. Masturbation is fornication. No one masturbates without an image of another in their mind. Period. (If you don't believe me, try it some time...second thought, don't!) Jesus has said, "If we lust in our heart, it is sin, and the "man" has committed adultery". In God's eyes, what's good for the goose is good for the gander: he doesn't discriminate. Shy
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6/22/2007 12:28 pm |
You had 328 viewers and ONLY 27 voters!!! Since it is NOT working, I will manually type it. Is self stimulation/masterbation a form of fornication?
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6/22/2007 12:21 pm |
Sorry-it didn't work...I'll try again. IF it doesn't work, just delete this comment, and I'll try again. I am still sort of confused between blogs/posts [post post]
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6/22/2007 12:13 pm |
Thanks,spiceangel15212, No one seemed to want to discuss it at Bible meetings{whoa!}and I had this discussion with a few close friends.I also agree with you,as in everything we need to take it to the Lord and He will give you the will and strength to deliver you from the lusts of the flesh.Sometimes I wonder about people on here! Loki, would you please visit my poll-[blog Is] Today, I have posted new information on this subject, that I found in the Oxford companion to the Bible. I would like your input on it. Also, I have viewed several of your posts, and consider you someone of character, that I would like to add in my Friends Network. However, I updated my profile, and can't send an invite for 2 days. IF you would like to join, feel free to send me the invite, and I will accept. Continue to go against the flow, for your reward will be great!
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6/21/2007 8:01 pm |
Loki-I'm glad at least some people are posting on here. I made my poll one week and a half before you started this poll, and only one person voted in the poll, and no one commented. It kind of frustrated me-I can only imagine how it makes God feel to know that so many people viewed my poll, but avoided it altogether...I also put the same poll in the group "The Translators". A few people on there responded. I commend you for also bringing up the issue.
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6/20/2007 8:40 pm |
Sex was God's invention, He created our bodies with the ability and need to have sex. Christians should not be ashamed. I'm not going to get into weather is a sin to self-satisfy or not, that's your problem if you are sooo represed and can find fault, sin, wickedeness and beat yourself over and over about this, go ahead!!!!, i say this with christian love!, God bless you!.  God created sex for creating life and for pleasure for MARRIED COUPLES. I think it is wrong to call someone repressed because they choose to live a Spiritual life, and DISCIPLINE their flesh. Anyone can give in to INSTANT GRATIFICATION, but self control is a fruit of the Spirit. No one ever said that Holyness would be easy, but it is worth it...and pleasing to God.
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6/20/2007 10:04 am |
Hi, Loki: there is an answer in Scripture about "is it ok to self stimulate". Somewhere in Dueteronomy and another instance I can't recall but will look up if you would like. God took the life of one man (I don't recall the Scripture) because he would not fulfill the law God had given and go in to his brother's wife (after his brother's death). God has said, "It is better to cast thy seed into the belly of a whore than upon the ground." His reasoning? I think it has to do with life: we have been commanded to be plentiful upon the earth. In my thinking, this verse goes for men and women, though I have no Scriptural backing for the feminine gender so it is probably more of an issue for women than men. Therefore, pray for wisdom as well as relief. Love- most excellent question. Jim Thats funny, I always thought that it would be more of an issue for men, since they are supposedly more visual than most women.
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6/17/2007 7:32 pm |
Hi, Loki: there is an answer in Scripture about "is it ok to self stimulate". Somewhere in Dueteronomy and another instance I can't recall but will look up if you would like. God took the life of one man (I don't recall the Scripture) because he would not fulfill the law God had given and go in to his brother's wife (after his brother's death). God has said, "It is better to cast thy seed into the belly of a whore than upon the ground." His reasoning? I think it has to do with life: we have been commanded to be plentiful upon the earth. In my thinking, this verse goes for men and women, though I have no Scriptural backing for the feminine gender so it is probably more of an issue for women than men. Therefore, pray for wisdom as well as relief. Love- most excellent question. Jim
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6/16/2007 10:18 am |
Very good perspectives here, and especially from the last two. I so much agree and feel the particulars is a matter of privacy which I will discuss with she to whom I will marry. We are not to judge or condem others, but sometimes we have to start by not judging or condeming ourselves. We each know our own need, and we also know where or when it goes beyond holiness. Isaiah 66:2b; But to this one I will look, To him who is humble and contrite of spirit, and who trembles at My word.
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6/16/2007 7:03 am |
Sex was God's invention, He created our bodies with the ability and need to have sex. Christians should not be ashamed. I'm not going to get into weather is a sin to self-satisfy or not, that's your problem if you are sooo represed and can find fault, sin, wickedeness and beat yourself over and over about this, go ahead!!!!, i say this with christian love!, God bless you!. Life is an adventure.
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6/16/2007 12:20 am |
This matter comes up very frequently, and misinformed people consistantly bring up two sections to condem self-gratifacation, both of which are badly taken out of context. But before I get to that a disclaimer to avoid misunderstanding. Just because I show a misuse of Biblical context does NOT mean I am speaking in support of the issue. I simply support using and understanding the Bible correctly. HolyMagi eluded to one of the two sections which regarded Onan spilling his seed in the sand instead of fulfilling his brotherly duty to marry and impregnate his brother's widow. The misconceiption is that Onan did not perform intercourse, but instead masterbated, but that is NOT what happened. The Bible plainly states he had intercourse with Tamar, BUT he withdrew and spilled his seed in the sand, instead of remaining penetrated to impregnate his new wife. This is a well known method of birth control known as the 'Withdraw Method,' and has nothing to do with self fulfillment. The other badly misunderstood section is in Matthew 5:28; where Jesus says to look at a woman with lust is the same as having had adultry with her. This passage is misconstrued to say that a man's normal $exual fantiseys are sin, and therefore the self gratifying that would go with it is also sin. But again that subject has nothing to do with this Scripture. The Greek word in this verse for 'woman' is 'gune' which without exception specificly means a married woman. The Greek word used for 'lust' here is 'epithumeō' which is not related to $ex, but of aquiring property, and prestige that properly belongs to someone else. Of all the occurances of this Greek word, Matt. 5:28; is the only place that is translated in such a way as to imply $ex. In essance our Lord was saying that any man who desired to take another man's wife away from him, that desire is the same as if he had committed adultry with her. A very different matter then it's accepted but improper usage that a man who masterbates while having $exual fantiseys about a woman is sin. One more time for the record. I am not claiming that such an act is not sin, but I am saying that these two records do not support such claims. There are other sections that deal with these matters, just not the two that are most commonly and in error shoved down people's throats. Isaiah 66:2b; But to this one I will look, To him who is humble and contrite of spirit, and who trembles at My word.
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6/15/2007 10:24 pm |
Sorry Holy Magi-I have to disagree on this one... "Then find someone get married and have relations and stop feeling so guilty." Suppose God does NOT want you to be married ever? Finding someone to marry does NOT always solve the problem...I married a born again Christian man too soon, that I loved, to avoid having intercourse, because we were being tempted. This was a BIG mistake. "Nor are you hurting anyone if you slip! It comes down to this... If you sin (or think you sin) confess your sin TO GOD (only God) and he will forgive you and cleanse you of all unrighteousness." If we sin through masterbation, it is hurting us-we are the temple of God-right? Is it not considered fornication when you have sex with BEFORE marriage-even with yourself? And when we confess our sins, we need to have repentance, which means we must turn from that sin. I'm just as human as the rest of you, but it takes practice to Discipline your flesh. The longer you go, the easier it gets. By the way, I already have a post about this. At first it was called-Masterbation, and I changed it to-Is this too controversial or personal. People viewed it, but would not post or even vote on the issue.
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6/15/2007 8:01 pm |
great advice holymagi!, i agree. Life is an adventure.
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