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3/12/2007 5:29 am
Last Read: 5/5/2008 9:42 pm
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Okay everyone, Enough is enough!! Our online community is being attacked by a covert, sinister, malicious evil spirit the Bible calls "Accuser of the Brethren!"
Rev 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
Accuser of the Brethren is a demon. It is real, it influences fellow Christian believers and recently it is hitting us hard. So what exactly is Accuser of the Brethren?
It is a demon that uses religiousness as a means to divide the body of Christ. It is most effectively used to slander spiritual leadership, and create strife over doctrinal issues.
Does that sound a little like what's been going on here? How about a blog where a spiritual leader named Joel Olsteen is being discredited? What about blogs identifying the 7th Day Adventists as a cult?
What doctrinal differences somebody thinks they have with this leader Joel Olsteen is being handled Un-Biblically, with malice and evil. Spiritual leaders are to be respected,
1Ti 5:17 Let the elders that rule well be counted worthy of double honour, especially they who labour in the word and doctrine. Rom 13:1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. Rom 13:2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
Contrary to popular opinion and what NIV says, this is NOT in reference to civil leadership, but spiritual leadership. If it was civil leaders then those places that forbid preaching the Word would HAVE to be honored as the Bible says.
Spiritual leaders should NEVER ever publicly and openly criticized. Even if the doctrine is wrong, it is not for us to judge. The Bible says how to handle that as well.
1Ti 5:1 Rebuke not an elder, but intreat him as a father;
Mat 18:15 Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. Mat 18:16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
Has those who think Pastor Olsteen is wrong bothered to contact him personally? Have they prayed for him to repent of wrong doctrine? I think not, but instead has made a point to announce his alleged shortcomings to the church. This should not be tolerated by any of us. When we see it we need to impress upon that brother or sister that the matter is being handled wrongly, and by doing so makes them more guilty then the leader they have accused.
Rom 16:17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. Rom 16:18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.
I don't wish to debate this issue. The Word of God addresses it quite clearly. Those who are making accusations against spiritual leaders need to stop doing so right now, and repent of the sin. Then, pray for the leader who is believed to have fallen.
The other means by which the demon, "Accuser of the Brethren," works is by causing division in the body over doctrinal issues. I see today several blogs accusing the 7th Day Adventists of being a cult. We use doctrines such as the trinity, or what day is the Sabbath to justify our positions. You know what? Every one of you who want to accuse a group that believes differently then you do are outright hypocrites.
Your very own doctrines can be just as easily dismantled by using the Bible as those you attack. Those who think they are more spiritual then the church down the street, or that believes something other then they do, are self-righteous and only fooling themselves. Worst of all they are letting the devil deceive them into leading the body of Christ into divisions.
So what if somebody thinks the Sabbath should be a particular day? and so what if someone thinks that someone else is denying the deity of Christ?
That is not your problem, but theirs.
Rom 14:1 Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations.
Rom 14:4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand. Rom 14:5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
Mat 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged. Mat 7:2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
Boy, I would not want to be in the position on judgment day that some of you are putting yourselves in. If you think somebody or some group is wrong, pray for them, and if they don't repent, it's not your problem but their's.
Again, I don't want to debate this issue and I won't. The Word of God has been given. You can heed to it, or ignore it. Either way I'll be praying for you that you don't have to stand judgment over the way you have judged.
And as fair warning, I will without hesitation ban anyone from my blog who wants to argue.
And don't even try to give me the bunk about exposing sin. That is another issue entirely.
Finally, I would ask those who have made blogs with accusations against the Brethern to please delete your accusing blogs, and pray for those you believe are not walking correctly. Which includes even me. Especially me. God Bless you All.
Isaiah 66:2b; But to this one I will look, To him who is humble and contrite of spirit, and who trembles at My word.
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3/12/2007 8:13 am |
Rev 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
Good message Byron. I may not agree with you 100% in all of this but I see allot of common ground here and can accept that any day. Be at peace my brother.
Hisglory77 replies on 3/12/2007 1:53 pm: Hi Roberta;
There's nothing wrong with us having disagrements with each other. My point here is when it becomes division in the body of Christ, and you seemed to have gotten that point, which is the most important part.
I'm learning a lot of new (to me) and neat stuff about unity, and in order to engage our enemy successfully in spiritual warfare unity is essentual. We need to put aside our small bickerings over minor issues and stand together as the body of Christ and resist the devil together, so that he flees from all of us.
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13881 posts 3/12/2007 9:55 am |
Well Byron, We are often dealing with individuals here who have suffered the trauma of rejection and abuse not only as children but as adults. Now, while all of us may have suffered from this in one form or another, some have not been able to reconcile this. While we cannot undo their past for them, we can only set an example of positive love to them. It is hard, when one watches a bully picking on all the kids it tends to stir up passion. However, this is the underlying intent of the spirit. We can only be calm, pray for them, that they be set free from all they suffer. Btw, I agree with your post.
From one bride to another, God keep you, bless you, increase you, Rhonda   
Hisglory77 replies on 3/12/2007 1:57 pm: I know you're right Rhonda, and those are people who need our prayers a lot, but on the other side of this life, when we are held accountable for our every idle word, pleaing our trauma's and abusive childhoods is NOT going to hold water with our ultimate judge, The God who created us all. His son died and was raised so that we ALL can be healed from such things.
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13881 posts 3/12/2007 3:14 pm |
Byron, You are right, my brother. No doubt, there will be a heavy price to pay for those who cause disunity among the brethren. I do have pity on them, and can only say as Jesus said, Forgive them Father,they know not what they do. Surely, there will be space for repentance.
Glory and Honor and Thanks be to our God.
From one bride to another, God keep you, bless you, increase you, Rhonda  
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7905 posts 3/18/2007 5:59 am |
How did I miss this post? Oh it was on Monday which was the day from Hell last week at work!
There is a verse and for some reason, I just can't find it this morning. I am thinking it's OT that talks about not arguing over doctrine amongst ourselves. Oh man, I wish I could find it!!
Hisglory77 replies on 3/18/2007 1:00 pm: Would this be the one you're looking for?
1Ti 1:4 Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do. This is part of a larger context I think I will post as a reply in itself. |
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2907 posts 3/18/2007 2:07 pm |
Now before someone takes the Scripture I quoted in my response to 'Caff out of context, I'm going to expound on it within it's context. To start I will back up a verse.
1Ti 1:3 As I besought thee to abide still at Ephesus, when I went into Macedonia, that thou mightest charge some that they teach no other doctrine,
The doctrine of this verse is NOT in reference to mainline churches compared to 'cults.' It is the doctrine that Jesus gave.
Mat 22:36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law? Mat 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. Mat 22:38 This is the first and great commandment. Mat 22:39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. Mat 22:40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
Somehow I don't think that pursicuting non-mainline denomenations is walking in the love of God, but think about those who would judge the so called cults as you read the entire 1st Timothy record.
1Ti 1:3 As I besought thee to abide still at Ephesus, when I went into Macedonia, that thou mightest charge some that they teach no other doctrine, (the love of God) 1Ti 1:4 Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do. (such as minor differences in personal beliefs which has divided the body of Christ)1Ti 1:5 Now the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith unfeigned: (There's that love of God again)1Ti 1:6 From which some having swerved have turned aside unto vain jangling; (those who in judgement call some groups 'cults.') 1Ti 1 Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm. 1Ti 1:8 But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully; 1Ti 1:9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, 1Ti 1:10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;
Yet those who are judging will still not get this. The sound doctine has nothing to do with mainline churches compared to 'cults,' but walking in love, which is the doctrine that Jesus gave us.
Strangely, the real cultists are NOT those who are judged as cultists, but those who would judge the cultists, thus dividing the body of Christ.
Isaiah 66:2b; But to this one I will look, To him who is humble and contrite of spirit, and who trembles at My word.
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7905 posts 3/18/2007 3:39 pm |
Yes the verse in titus is the one that came to mind! Thanks and God bless you!
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2907 posts 3/18/2007 7:28 pm |
Quoting Overcaffeinated: Yes the verse in titus is the one that came to mind! Thanks and God bless you!
Yes, I know that one too. Too bad I didn't think to use that one instead, because the English Standard Version really sets it well, and especially in the next couple verses.
tit 3:9 But avoid foolish controversies, genealogies, dissensions, and quarrels about the law, for they are unprofitable and worthless. tit 3:10 As for a person who stirs up division, after warning him once and then twice, have nothing more to do with him, tit 3:11 knowing that such a person is warped and sinful; he is self-condemned. ESV
I just had a thought on this. But I'm going to stop and pray over it first. Glad I did that, the answer is no, it wouldn't do any good and only subject me to the same kind of dissensions that are going on.
Isaiah 66:2b; But to this one I will look, To him who is humble and contrite of spirit, and who trembles at My word.
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