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I am unable to post in Dennis'es blogs as he is set up to only accept comments from his friends. In other words people who generally do not disagree with him. I personally feel it's wrong to block people simply because they don't agree with your views. Now if someone is potty mouthed and causes problems, that's a different matter. In response to what has been said,By Dennis I will post my views here, and I won't bar others unless they become disrespectful. I agree with Sophie, Red, and Merlin, that the post by Dennis is no appology to Lisa, but is in fact another attack using religiously soaked judgements to justify even further attacks. A knowledgeable accuser of the brethern such as Dennis, or Kim, and others we know of are very skilled at finding fault with everybody else's beliefs except their own. In fact if set against each other, they can still find falicies. So who is wrong, and who is right? We are ALL wrong. Only God is right, and even His Word says so. Rom. 3:4b yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; verse 23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; The accusers of the brethern,(of which I was once among) refuse to understand the point that it is a sin in itself to judge one individual member of a denomenation based soley on that denomenation. Whatever is wrong, or right about a given group can NOT be used against one person. Rom. 14:4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand. verse 10 But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. verse 12 So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God. 13 Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way. 14 I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth any thing to be unclean, to him it is unclean. The accusers of the brethern are very quick to defend their positions by claiming they are speaking the truth in love, and use obscure references concerning 'correct doctrines' to justify their accusations. More outright lies, and they have still failed to address their own hipocroseies. Okay, Lisa identifies herself as Catholic, and having done so, the accusers pounce on her in unjustified judgement, by pointing out all the places they disagree with Catholic dogma, and therefore make Lisa guilty by association. The only problem is that Lisa didn't specificly state herself what she does, and does not believe and agree with. She has been found guilty of herosey by accusers who in fact have no idea what she personally believes. Here in America, a person is presumed innocent until proven guilty. Involvement in a given group is not proof of guilt. That would be like saying because someone used a gun to rob a bank, that all gun owners are bank robbers. Not in America. In this land, the person who is accused of a given crime must be convicted in court with direct evidence proving that very person commited the crime in question. Therefore, no one person of a given church can be judged as a heritic, even if the church itself is full of herosey. We as individuals are not soley responsible for what our church decrees. We are held accountable only for what WE do. What the greater group does is it's own matter. I don't know of anyone who agrees with 100% of their church's creeds. But there is enough for them to align with a given denomenation or church in order to fellowship with others with simular beliefs. If Dennis truely wanted to repent of his unkind words to Lisa, then he should just say so, and leave her church's beliefs and practices out of it. So what if he can prove this or that? It doesn't make Lisa this or that. There is much about the Catholic Church I would question, but I will not presume to direct such questions at it's members. It is not for me to judge. I can and will pray for specific issuses, and specific people. As for the judging, not me. That's God's job. God is God, and I'm not God. Neither is Dennis, or anyone else who accuses. Isaiah 66:2b; But to this one I will look, To him who is humble and contrite of spirit, and who trembles at My word. |
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5/5/2008 1:10 am |
Byron, well said, an excellent post, you said it much better than i could have, GBY Gods way is my way,...Clay
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5/5/2008 1:12 am |
But you are accusing Dennis of not having a genuine apology. Why are people here so judgmental? Its just awful, really. I mean its as if they WANT other people to be guilty of something. So now THIS thing about whether or not Dennis is truly sorry is apparently going to go on for a few weeks or so. I personally think it is absolutely stupid. And I dont even agree with Dennis most of the time, he has many times attacked MY CHURCH and my beliefs but nobody cared about THAT. I just wonder if you guys can in any way see any of the hypocrisy in all of this? When someone apologizes to you, its your duty to accept the apology, HOPE that it is genuine, leave the rest to God. It isnt your right or your ability to judge the person's motivations or feelings, or genuineness. These are just my thoughts, to me it seems as though people on here are just itching to have some sort of a fight about something, and if not that, then a fight about the former fight that went on. I personally have decided that from now on I am going to stay out of all this ridiculous squabbling that goes on here. To me it seems like a whole lot of mind manipulation going on here where one person is for the Catholics, another is against. Another is secretly for or against someone else and there is a whole lot innuendo going on all the time. In other words, people will take jabs at others but not really saying who or what group of others they are really trying to take a jab at. I think it is deplorable.
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5/5/2008 4:20 am |
I'm sorry but I have to agree with Claudia.. we cannot determine how sincere or otherwise others apologies. We are NOT God. We should stop playing God in things.
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5/5/2008 4:26 am |
But you are accusing Dennis of not having a genuine apology. Why are people here so judgmental? Its just awful, really. I mean its as if they WANT other people to be guilty of something. So now THIS thing about whether or not Dennis is truly sorry is apparently going to go on for a few weeks or so. I personally think it is absolutely stupid. And I dont even agree with Dennis most of the time, he has many times attacked MY CHURCH and my beliefs but nobody cared about THAT. I just wonder if you guys can in any way see any of the hypocrisy in all of this? When someone apologizes to you, its your duty to accept the apology, HOPE that it is genuine, leave the rest to God. It isnt your right or your ability to judge the person's motivations or feelings, or genuineness. These are just my thoughts, to me it seems as though people on here are just itching to have some sort of a fight about something, and if not that, then a fight about the former fight that went on. I personally have decided that from now on I am going to stay out of all this ridiculous squabbling that goes on here. To me it seems like a whole lot of mind manipulation going on here where one person is for the Catholics, another is against. Another is secretly for or against someone else and there is a whole lot innuendo going on all the time. In other words, people will take jabs at others but not really saying who or what group of others they are really trying to take a jab at. I think it is deplorable. When someone apologizes to you, its your duty to accept the apology, HOPE that it is genuine, leave the rest to God. It isnt your right or your ability to judge the person's motivations or feelings, or genuineness. ******************************************************************************************* I can't agree with you here Claudia! This kind of behavior may work well in the secular world, but NOT in the body of Christ! These ARE indeed YOUR THOUGHTS! I could just say I might "respect" your opinion, just as such, BUT let me DEEPEN it some more first! Indeed a central core worth of a thread for itself! When I have time! Actually there is a HUUUUGE difference between "apologizing", "excusing oneself", saying "I'm sorry" and the like, versus FORGIVENESS, BE FORGIVEN and REPENTANCE! Other apparent/similar synonyms that apply in the same "family" are also used, such as: remorse, regret; and, blame, reproach, reprimand, reprehend, censure, reprove, find fault with; and chastise, castigate, punish; and convince, persuade... Let's take a closer look at the REAL ROOT of the verb ελεγχω, -ομαι, ele(n)gcho, -omai, that is used with the intention of making the culpable be ashamed, admitting, being convinced of one's own guilt and acknowledge it. As when we "confess" our sins and we can meet God on a righteous ground and receive His grace, forgiveness and purification. Actually that's why Jesus in John 8: 46 can confidently answer to the typical "Pharisaic attitude": Which of you convinceth me of sin? On the other hand, it was one of the mission of the Spirit to convince (elengcho) the world of its sin, read: lead to the acknowledgment of sin. Therefore the goal is NOT TO ACCUSE, as the Pharisees did, but as I said earlier to forward that pure state of contrition for God to be able to forgive! (Here with an "open mind" one can relate it to the Catholic way of repentance and penitence!) You can compare and study the use of this verb in all these verses: Matt. 18:15 Luke 3:19 John 3:20; 8:9; 8:46; 16:8 1 Cor. 14:24 Eph. 5:11; 5:13 1 Tim. 5:20 2 Tim. 4:2 Tit. 1:9; 1:13; 2:15 Heb. 12:5 Jam. 2:9 Rev. 3:19 Indeed to study the Bible in this way gives certainly a glimpse of His Glory! Amen! BB ______________________ PS: Hi Byron!!!  
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5/5/2008 4:57 am |
WHY DO PEOPLE FEED DENNIS... HE is a man-eating shark... If people IGNORED HIM... and REFUSED to read his blogs... HE would get tired and go play somewhere else.....
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5/5/2008 5:37 am |
Brister Bate, I thought what Dennis did was to say he was sorry then try to explain why he did what he did or said what he said. I see no reason why to try to analyze it further and to try determining whether or whether not he really meant it, was sincere, etc. And I do not see why you say my ideas on this are "secular". I just see it as that: 1. Dennis made an Apology 2. Nobody here is a Priest put here to absolve anyone else's sins Jesus said "And if he trespass against thee seven times in a day, and seven times in a day turn again to thee, saying, I repent; thou shalt forgive him" Lk:17:4. I dont see anything there about me trying to decide whether his repentance is genuine or not.
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5/5/2008 5:47 am |
Claudia.. I really don't care to read what Dennis has to say EVER... as He is simply RUDE and OBNOXIOUS... I don't read comments of those WHO THINK THEY KNOW EVERYTHING... You are ANOTHER one who just CASTS out OPINIONS that are judgemental and IGNORANT... so I don't usually read what you post either... Life is TOO short to be caught up with people who have NO RESPECT for others..... I was following this blog.. but do not desire to argue so ... I will move on.... Being a Christian does not mean we have to participate in the rudeness of others ..... this is BLOG land.. we can PICK and CHOOSE what we read and who we RESPECT as being CHRIST-LIKE... the rest I just stay away from.... that is called CHOICE...
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5/5/2008 5:49 am |
Guys, Im going to try not getting involved in these type of things anymore. But please just consider this. Remember that the object that Jesus had was to save, not to destroy. Okay? and I do realize people can make you mad and sad and everything else and its hard to forgive one another sometimes but please do try to okay? and try to think the best of everyone, though its difficult. I mayself have had alot of trouble trying to think the best of a couple of people here but you know what? Its better to admit that I have a problem with that and ask God to fix it then to try to justify myself in my sins. If everybody would seek to humble themselves instead of everyone else then everything would get better. Try also to take into account that because we cant really be in person with people here that that makes it difficult to really "read" a person. All we see is typing. And Im not holy or righteous myself by any means, I certainly have all the same problems myself. God Bless.
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5/5/2008 5:52 am |
Seasons of Life3, No actually, Dennis is a human being that Jesus hung on the cross, suffered and died for. And if there is even a glimmer of a chance that he is coming around to being more "loving" -as you all think he needs to be, then all of you ought to be rejoicing about it, not trying to pounce upon him and shoot him down right? Can you imagine? People get onto him day after day, its not as if he cant see your comments. Its not as if he doesnt have feelings. He sees it, then he decides he will try and extend a hand out and everyone slaps him to the ground and says "Well Im sorry but that just wasnt an apology up to MY particular standards!" Lk:15: 7 I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance.
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5/5/2008 5:55 am |
SeasonsofLife3, Be careful that in always beholding what you THINK is evil in another, that you dont become changed into that image yourself. There is an awful lot of vitriol coming from you, in case you didnt realize it. I have tried to be nice to you but its getting more difficult each time 
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 5/5/2008 6:08 am |
Good Post Byron!
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5/5/2008 6:31 am |
Brister Bate, I thought what Dennis did was to say he was sorry then try to explain why he did what he did or said what he said. I see no reason why to try to analyze it further and to try determining whether or whether not he really meant it, was sincere, etc. And I do not see why you say my ideas on this are "secular". I just see it as that: 1. Dennis made an Apology 2. Nobody here is a Priest put here to absolve anyone else's sins Jesus said "And if he trespass against thee seven times in a day, and seven times in a day turn again to thee, saying, I repent; thou shalt forgive him" Lk:17:4. I dont see anything there about me trying to decide whether his repentance is genuine or not. I didn't mention anyone in particular. I'm not playing God either and I don't agree with anyone that JUSTIFY and TWISTS what it is said ON PURPOSE. On this that picky am I!! Do your comparative study of the mentioned verses if you care or leave it. You might have meant genuine or non genuine apology!!! BUT THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS NON-GENUINE REPENTANCE!! PERIOD! This is starting to become a Babel-situation, and I've started the first page today in my blog!
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5/5/2008 6:50 am |
Hmmmmm.....what to say and how to say it......hmmmmm!! Byron, you are correct about one thing about me......I do not open my mouth as too what I do or do not believe about my own faith! Very true.....no one knows......assumptions to know this of me is foolish! And I will not debate doctrine it is not my calling to do so here on the blogs! Although, I will agree with something from time to time but that's about it!! Now as far as Dennis is concerned........if there is any situation between the two of us it should be between us......but Dennis decided to make a public apology and look how things turned out!!! Look here how things are turning out! What good does it do? Instead of just perhaps two people being at odds.......it's turning into many siding with Dennis or siding with me!!! I don't want that!!! People to assume my feelings toward Dennis is wrong!!! In all fairness.....anyone how defends me makes a strike against Dennis and by the same token anyone who defends Dennis makes a strike against me!! It's a lose-lose situation not just for Dennis, myself, but everyone who comments because someone is gonna disagree and you can see the domino effect!!! And it just shouldn't be!!! Keeping things between two people is best......otherwise it just adds such unnecessary heavy burdens to struggle through. Byron, I don't know what good it would do if I asked you to delete this post so I will take pretty much what I've said here and put it into my own post! Thank you for you kind heart.....thank you for the beauty of your intentions. I'm not an argumentative or fighting person. I'm a quite person who loves people, peace, and harmony among others. My faith did not make me......God made me and I follow Him!
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5/5/2008 6:56 am |
Brister, But if HE in his own conscience, and thats what we are talking about here, HIS conscience, not mine or yours... doesnt think that there is anything WRONG with pointing out what is wrong in a person's Denomination or in his Theology... then whats there for him to repent of? Unless I just misunderstand you. I AGREE, biblically there IS such a thing as a false repentance. But that has to start with a person KNOWING they are doing something wrong. if Dennis thinks he did this and that WRONG thing but the rest of it that he did, he thinks is THE RIGHT THING... and he apologizes for the WRONG thing he thinks he did.. but not for what he thinks is something that ISNT wrong... then how can everyone sit around saying he isnt truly repentant?
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5/5/2008 7:47 am |
I'm sorry but I have to agree with Claudia.. we cannot determine how sincere or otherwise others apologies. We are NOT God. We should stop playing God in things. Here essentially is the 'apology.' You belong to an evil and stupid group. I apologize if YOU misunderstand what I have just said.
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5/5/2008 7:59 am |
Hmmmmm.....what to say and how to say it......hmmmmm!! Byron, you are correct about one thing about me......I do not open my mouth as too what I do or do not believe about my own faith! Very true.....no one knows......assumptions to know this of me is foolish! And I will not debate doctrine it is not my calling to do so here on the blogs! Although, I will agree with something from time to time but that's about it!! Now as far as Dennis is concerned........if there is any situation between the two of us it should be between us......but Dennis decided to make a public apology and look how things turned out!!! Look here how things are turning out! What good does it do? Instead of just perhaps two people being at odds.......it's turning into many siding with Dennis or siding with me!!! I don't want that!!! People to assume my feelings toward Dennis is wrong!!! In all fairness.....anyone how defends me makes a strike against Dennis and by the same token anyone who defends Dennis makes a strike against me!! It's a lose-lose situation not just for Dennis, myself, but everyone who comments because someone is gonna disagree and you can see the domino effect!!! And it just shouldn't be!!! Keeping things between two people is best......otherwise it just adds such unnecessary heavy burdens to struggle through. Byron, I don't know what good it would do if I asked you to delete this post so I will take pretty much what I've said here and put it into my own post! Thank you for you kind heart.....thank you for the beauty of your intentions. I'm not an argumentative or fighting person. I'm a quite person who loves people, peace, and harmony among others. My faith did not make me......God made me and I follow Him! With all due respect, it is not simply about you. Dennis has been pulling his crap for three years from what I hear. Often behind the scenes in an alter ego. Not wanting to show everyone the depth of his sickness. He is full of contempt for psychological counselors, pastors, environmentalists, political liberals, Catholics, SDA's, charisimatics, Canadians, French, non-Americans, American women, and everyone who disagrees with him. It's ridiculous! "Muslims worship the moon! Liberals are mentally ill. Medications are evil." A Christian commounity should not put up with that sort of mindless nonsense. I'm sure someone must have defended Hitler's right to free speech at one time.
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5/5/2008 8:01 am |
Frazz, Here essentially is the 'apology.' You belong to an evil and stupid group. I apologize if YOU misunderstand what I have just said. --------------------------- People who know me know that I am strong willed and i also stick to my guns. You will not find me apologizing for much. One of the reasons is that I believe truth matters above all things whether it be friendships or whatever. I want to apologize to Lisa and other Catholics that think I come off as arrogant and insensitive towards their belief system. Much of what I have posted has been material that I am in complete agreement with. It is not placed out there to hurt anyone, but to educate them. That is the only way a person can be free from things that are not true. As a believer, I have had to look at things that were in the very root of my belief system and decide if they had any credence at all. Over the years many things have been implemented into Christianity; doctrine-wise that do not hold water when closely scrutinized. That is why, we must, as Christians use the word of God as our guide. That alone is the inspired word of God. I have taken articles showing that what is taught in the Catholic religion is in huge contrast to what the Bible itself says. Yes they are long, but truth is found in them. Lisa I will not intrude on your blogs anymore. I never meant to hurt your freelings. I personally wish that the truth would inspire you to ask questions. It did me about 7 years ago and the truth was painful at first, but very liberating as time went on. Things that did not make sense, now do. All because I took the time to want to look some things up. What I found was earth shaking for me...then a Charismatic Assembly of God believer for 30 years. The more I found out about their teachings, the more my life was remade. Here is one example. They, in the church's writing believe that a person must speak in tongues in order to be saved. Where they came up with that, I have no idea. Lisa that is one of the reasons that I put up the blog on the last 1600 years of the catholic Church and how it eveolved. The things they added, the things people said. There is importance in truth. Life is all about Jesus. He is the all in all. You know, the Holy Spirit is part of the Trinity, part of God. Yet the Holy Spirit never points to himself. He only points to Jesus Christ. Why would anyone place such an emphasis on Mary, if God himself only points towards Jesus? Think on that. Think on why it took 1200 years to implement "confession" as a need. There are many things like that that do not add up. So is it mean to point out that things do not line up? My faith is found in the scriptures which were God inspired. Catholics were not the only ones canonizing the scriptures. The Protestants were doing the same thing. Anyway, I am sorry, not for what I said; but that you are offended. But think on this, the Gospel always has offended people and always will.
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5/5/2008 8:04 am |
If DENNIS thinks the doctrines of the Catholic Church are wrong, then DENNIS can say so. None of you are CONSCIENCE for Dennis or for anyone else. THATS the problem.
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5/5/2008 8:06 am |
And let me tell you something else. When the Sunday Laws are passed, as according to Bible Prophecy, THAT is going to be the real root of the problem is, Christians thinking that they have the right to be as CONSCIENCE for everybody else, a sort of a "Unity" "Group Think". If the guy thinks doctrine is wrong and he wants to say so, guess what? YOU ARE NOT GOD!
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5/5/2008 8:16 am |
Ugh! This is just sickening, I dont want to even talk about it anymore.
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5/5/2008 9:13 am |
Frazz, Here essentially is the 'apology.' You belong to an evil and stupid group. I apologize if YOU misunderstand what I have just said. However, I (again - as much as it pains me to say) AINT God, and neither are you or anyone else. Who else convicts like God? Who elses heart can be moved by anyone unless its by God? words are words.. People are stubborn, I know full well I haven't meant EVERY apology I've made.
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5/5/2008 9:37 am |
Claudia.. I really don't care to read what Dennis has to say EVER... as He is simply RUDE and OBNOXIOUS... I don't read comments of those WHO THINK THEY KNOW EVERYTHING... You are ANOTHER one who just CASTS out OPINIONS that are judgemental and IGNORANT... so I don't usually read what you post either... Life is TOO short to be caught up with people who have NO RESPECT for others..... I was following this blog.. but do not desire to argue so ... I will move on.... Being a Christian does not mean we have to participate in the rudeness of others ..... this is BLOG land.. we can PICK and CHOOSE what we read and who we RESPECT as being CHRIST-LIKE... the rest I just stay away from.... that is called CHOICE... Gods way is my way,...Clay
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5/5/2008 10:14 am |
Oh come on Claudia wake up. Dennis does not need to be defended by anyone. He has a very vicious tongue of his own and you know it. Every time you defend what Dennis has done here you are hurting Lisa. Take a step back and look to see what ridiculous things you are saying it might surprise you. Dennis did not simply copy and paste as you all might believe his stupid explanation in his apology. His actions were devious and out of conotrol. He deliberately meant to harm someone and many others with his biting words. There was no Christian works behind anything he posted in his apology or many other blogs he posts. You all know it. You're not blind or brainwashed. His apology is pathetic. And I see it as another attempt to hurt Lisa. That's sick! He does not care about Lisa. You all can see that. Well I care about Lisa. Why does Dennis care about what religion Lisa is anyway? Why would it bother anyone? So if it's a Christian thing to do, keep on hating Lisa for her religion. Well I can love her and her religion. Oh, by the way, Claudia if you can decipher what Ellen White has to say then you full well know what Dennis has to say in his pathetic fake apology.
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5/5/2008 10:45 am |
This is between you all and God. If you feel that Public Humiliation is the way to go then thats your privilege. But Im with David... 1Chron:21:13: And David said unto Gad, I am in a great strait: let me fall now into the hand of the LORD; for very great are his mercies: but let me not fall into the hand of man. Im very glad God is my Judge and not any of you.
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5/5/2008 10:59 am |
Oh come on Claudia wake up. Dennis does not need to be defended by anyone. He has a very vicious tongue of his own and you know it. Every time you defend what Dennis has done here you are hurting Lisa. Take a step back and look to see what ridiculous things you are saying it might surprise you. Dennis did not simply copy and paste as you all might believe his stupid explanation in his apology. His actions were devious and out of conotrol. He deliberately meant to harm someone and many others with his biting words. There was no Christian works behind anything he posted in his apology or many other blogs he posts. You all know it. You're not blind or brainwashed. His apology is pathetic. And I see it as another attempt to hurt Lisa. That's sick! He does not care about Lisa. You all can see that. Well I care about Lisa. Why does Dennis care about what religion Lisa is anyway? Why would it bother anyone? So if it's a Christian thing to do, keep on hating Lisa for her religion. Well I can love her and her religion. Oh, by the way, Claudia if you can decipher what Ellen White has to say then you full well know what Dennis has to say in his pathetic fake apology. And so I am just attemtping to get all these people to see what really lies at the bottom of all of this. It is NOT love, for if it was, it would be given to EVERYONE, not your personal favorites. God loves EVERYONE. Understand? I do not harbor even the slightest hatred for either Lisa OR her Religion. I DO believe some of the Catholic Beliefs are wrong but to be honest, if you dont see that SOMEBODY has to be right on some doctrines and SOMEBODY has to be wrong, they ALL cannot be right, then I truly dont know what to say to you. You have NO RIGHT trying to pass judgment upon me or anybody else. I try my BEST here to keep from making any personal attacks upon anyone. Although some, including Blanche, make PERSONAL attacks on me. I try to ignore that the best I can. I put up with ALOT of garbage. I guess to be honest, I am sick of all of this. The HYPROCRISY of it all, mostly. at any rate, I will leave you all to fight amongst yourselves and sit in judgment upon Dennis. I myself feel that I can judge NO MAN. If you feel capable and that its your privilege to do that then that is your problem. Personally, I believe MY BIBLE tells me that those who are saved will IN THE FUTURE sit in judgment upon all, -as in that we will have the privilege of actually having "the Books" opened to us so that we will know exactly what people truly actually did. TILL THEN, I am sorry, but I do not know these things. And Im not going to pretend that I do.
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5/5/2008 11:14 am |
Murphy, I just realized you probably dont know what I mean by "the Books" being opened... Eccl.12:14: For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil. Rv:20: 1: And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. 2: And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, 3: And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season. 4: And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5: But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 6: Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
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5/5/2008 11:27 am |
I am very tired of this idea that someone is trying to hurt Lisa. I have to put up with BOTH Dennis AND WalkingMan and others tearing up on MY Church, the Seventh Day Adventist Church and I do not hear ANYONE, including you defending me or worrying even one bit if they are hurting ME. And so I am just attemtping to get all these people to see what really lies at the bottom of all of this. It is NOT love, for if it was, it would be given to EVERYONE, not your personal favorites. God loves EVERYONE. Understand? I do not harbor even the slightest hatred for either Lisa OR her Religion. I DO believe some of the Catholic Beliefs are wrong but to be honest, if you dont see that SOMEBODY has to be right on some doctrines and SOMEBODY has to be wrong, they ALL cannot be right, then I truly dont know what to say to you. You have NO RIGHT trying to pass judgment upon me or anybody else. I try my BEST here to keep from making any personal attacks upon anyone. Although some, including Blanche, make PERSONAL attacks on me. I try to ignore that the best I can. I put up with ALOT of garbage. I guess to be honest, I am sick of all of this. The HYPROCRISY of it all, mostly. at any rate, I will leave you all to fight amongst yourselves and sit in judgment upon Dennis. I myself feel that I can judge NO MAN. If you feel capable and that its your privilege to do that then that is your problem. Personally, I believe MY BIBLE tells me that those who are saved will IN THE FUTURE sit in judgment upon all, -as in that we will have the privilege of actually having "the Books" opened to us so that we will know exactly what people truly actually did. TILL THEN, I am sorry, but I do not know these things. And Im not going to pretend that I do. And stop the BS about religion, because it's not about that, it never was, it's a personal thing Dennis is doing and you can see it. Everyone else can see it too. You are not brainwashed you know what is and what is not. And I know you do. You and Dennis and a few other people here I see have the same ability to twist and turn things. Well, you do not fool me. I've got your numbers. I see you all straight on. It's all black and white. No gray appears here. And stop crying the blues for yourself and your religion, it's a broken record already. Thinking people are playing favorites is merely a jealousy in your mind. You should know better. You stand up here and talk of your religion, you defend your doctrines. Lisa has never said one word about doctrines. And I don't think she's ever told anyone their religion or they themselves were a cult that they were heretics or any other ancient biblical wording you all can dig up about each others religions. She has always reflected her love of God and that seems to be all I've ever seen from her. Once again I see you jump behind your religious talk which is so wrong Claudia---you commented on this blog at least 10 times if not more and you claim you try not to make personal attacks. Re-read what you say--it points fingers----and you judge. If I say Claudia I apologize for hurting your feelings but for nothing that I've said here will you forgive me? I wonder did I or did I not just apologize.
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5/5/2008 11:40 am |
Wow; what an interesting varaity of views presented, and I lack the time just now to respond to much of anything. Even though there is some disagreement and debate, so far it appears that everyone is being respectful of each other, and that's the main thing I want to see. I'll say just a few things for now. Lisa; You have a Christ like quality that shows even you're being opposed. Not many people would turn around and defend someone who has so viciously attacked them. I did see your request to delete this post, and I do understand you not wanting to be the subject of contention, which is honorable, but do you honestly think that my deleting this post will make the contentions go away? No they won't, but I would like to think that what you will read here on my blogs are voices of reason. I won't permit crap about slamming someone else's beliefs to make their points. I can't speak on behalf of other blogs, but some of them would rather continue the arguement over who is a cult. The arguement here is was Dennis truely offering an appology to you? I will stay with "no" simply because an appology is an act of repentence, and Dennis is not repenting of his hurtful words. He is justifying his words, and trying to make you repent of your beliefs, even though he has no idea what they are. He is regarding an appology as a repentance and or denial of his beliefs, and that's not the case either. He can hold whatever views he wants. He can disagree with whatever church he wants. How he words his disagreements is what hurts people like you. Claudia; You have some very good and valid points, and not the least of which is in regards to when the sabbath is, or should be. I won't argue such points because doctrinally from the Bible, you are correct. However, I feel that worshiping God ONLY on one day of the week is putting him in a box, and letting him out only when it is convienent. I worship God every day. I currently attend worship services on most Thursdays, sometimes Fridays, both Saturdays and Sundays almost without fail. I love going to worship, so for me, the day of the week doesn't matter. What does matter is trying to work the rest of my schedule around the times I choose to worship. Now as for defending your beliefs, no I didn't defend you against Dennis, because for one, I can't post on his blogs, and two, I seldom would anyway, because much of what he has to say isn't worth responding to. However I did defend you as a person with rights to your beliefs very strongly on Jean's blog, getting the boot from her and losing her friendship because I did so. But you seemed to have forgotten about that. I had considered Jean a valuable friend who I lost because I choose to defend you. To this day Jean still will not address me, and to this day, you have never thanked me. Not that I want or expect you to, but your saying that nobody cared about you, or defended you is simply not true. Did I judge Dennis here in my blogs? Very good and valid question. Perhaps I did, although I prefer to think of it as calling him out on it, which may well be a simple manipulation of words, but it is something I would hope is done to me when I am in the wrong, so it's a judgement standard I can live with being used on me. Paul; I think you hit the thing dead on and summed it up very well. I agree that basicly Dennis was saying, "I'm sorry that your religious beliefs are a herosey," and you don't get a lot closer then that. Brister Bate; Very good word study you presented. I think it's well explained. _Frazzie; You can see his poor excuse for an appology on his blog. My question is why make it so public? He should have contacted Lisa more privately if he were truely repentent. But he didn't because he wants to be seen of men as something he is not. I'm out of time now and gotta go. Isaiah 66:2b; But to this one I will look, To him who is humble and contrite of spirit, and who trembles at My word.
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5/5/2008 11:45 am |
Hey, you know what.....no one even knows the real facts behind the reason Dennis apologized to ME. So........unless you know everything that went on between Dennis and myself.....or what is in Dennis' head, his motives or mine you all should just  Sorry, Byron to be so loud, but I truly have a very soft voice and think I needed to be heard!!!
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5/5/2008 12:02 pm |
Hisglory, I honestly do not recall anything about you defending me in any way. Not that Im questioning that but I just do not remember. I dont know if I read it and if so, cannot recall it. You completely misunderstand about the Sabbath, of course you worship God every day, that isnt the issue but that is an entirely different subject which I will be addressing shortly on my own blog. I have no idea why you'd lose Jean's friendship but primarily thats what Im talking about. WHY? We all should love each other REGARDLESS. ...that is my point.
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5/5/2008 12:04 pm |
At any rate, Ive been saying I need to stop responding to these type of things and I am going to now. Its just stupid of me I guess to keep on defending people one after another, even my "enemies". And Im not going to do it anymore. I wont get involved. I will stick to my own Blog from now on. Keep to myself. Good luck, everyone.
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5/5/2008 12:06 pm |
You defend Dennis but you do not defend Lisa. In so doing, you are judging Lisa--you cannot deny that. By you taking sides with Dennis you judge that Dennis is better than Lisa or anyone else here. And stop the BS about religion, because it's not about that, it never was, it's a personal thing Dennis is doing and you can see it. Everyone else can see it too. You are not brainwashed you know what is and what is not. And I know you do. You and Dennis and a few other people here I see have the same ability to twist and turn things. Well, you do not fool me. I've got your numbers. I see you all straight on. It's all black and white. No gray appears here. And stop crying the blues for yourself and your religion, it's a broken record already. Thinking people are playing favorites is merely a jealousy in your mind. You should know better. You stand up here and talk of your religion, you defend your doctrines. Lisa has never said one word about doctrines. And I don't think she's ever told anyone their religion or they themselves were a cult that they were heretics or any other ancient biblical wording you all can dig up about each others religions. She has always reflected her love of God and that seems to be all I've ever seen from her. Once again I see you jump behind your religious talk which is so wrong Claudia---you commented on this blog at least 10 times if not more and you claim you try not to make personal attacks. Re-read what you say--it points fingers----and you judge. If I say Claudia I apologize for hurting your feelings but for nothing that I've said here will you forgive me? I wonder did I or did I not just apologize. I just do not care anymore. bye. Its like talking to a wall here.
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5/5/2008 12:11 pm |
Hey Byron, this comment is better! You can delete the other one! Thanks! i think it also causes that 'horizontal strecthing' problem! What is an apology? What is repentance? What is the body of Christ? Who is His Church? What is it BIG CHURCH for a place? What is the Word of God? Who is the Son of God? Who is the Holy Spirit? What is respect? What is FAITH What is being washed from one's sins? What is Loving God? What is being free? What is a sinful man and a renewed on? What is loving your neighbors? Who are your enemies? What is salvation? What is loving one another? ... What is? What is? What is? Who are you? What does it means are YOU? I don't care about you! I don't care about your doctrine! i don't care about ANYTHING than just what INTERESTS ME! What I consider right, what I consider worthy, what I get out of other's condemnation makes me BLESSED, INVINCIBLE, ETERNAL RIGHTEOUS, ONE AND ALL WITH EVERYTHING, MOVING GOD FROM HIS PLACE AND SIT ON HIS PLACE TO JUDGE YOU, YOU, YOU SINNER, SCAM, GARBAGE, IDIOT, STUPID, HERETIC, UNGODLY, LOVELESS, PROUD... add, add, add... ............................ ............................ ............................ ALL are sinners, EXCEPT ME! Because I know... notice "I" know! The truth has been revealed to ME, TO ME ALONE!!! I'M HERE TO CUT YOUR HEADS OFF, ONE BY ONE, IF YOU DON"T FOLLOW ME AND LISTEN TO ME, AND "B O W" AND BEND YOUR KNEES TO MY REVELATIONS, BECAUSE I KNOW BETTER THAN YOU!!! SINNERS, SINNERS, YOUR DOCTRINE IS FALSE, MINE IS RIGHT! THAT'S WHY I HATE YOU ALL, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU, GARBAGE, I DON'T CARE ABOUT YOU, I CARE ABOUT ME, ONLY ME!!! Hey, anyone would like to to add a comment? I apologize if I offended anyone, but that was NOT my intention!! I've worked this out so long that I know what I'm saying! SINNER, SINNER, SINNER!!! SCAM, SHAME ON YOU, FOLLOWING A FALSE RELIGION after ALL I have discovered and pondered!! It took me YEARS until I got to that point!!! LISTEN TO ME, I don't mean you NO HARM, I would really like to LOVE YOU, but I can't do that until YOU UNDERSTAND what I MEAN! HOW COULD I??? It wouldn't be against Jesus!!! Don't you know HE IS EVERYTHING THAT COUNTS? __________________ Oh, please! let me go to make my dinner! Humans have to eat too!! Forgive me "father" cause I've sinned!  ________
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5/5/2008 6:15 pm |
NO this is what he said, and you are always trying to demonize him. Just like you do to me. --------------------------- People who know me know that I am strong willed and i also stick to my guns. You will not find me apologizing for much. One of the reasons is that I believe truth matters above all things whether it be friendships or whatever. I want to apologize to Lisa and other Catholics that think I come off as arrogant and insensitive towards their belief system. Much of what I have posted has been material that I am in complete agreement with. It is not placed out there to hurt anyone, but to educate them. That is the only way a person can be free from things that are not true. As a believer, I have had to look at things that were in the very root of my belief system and decide if they had any credence at all. Over the years many things have been implemented into Christianity; doctrine-wise that do not hold water when closely scrutinized. That is why, we must, as Christians use the word of God as our guide. That alone is the inspired word of God. I have taken articles showing that what is taught in the Catholic religion is in huge contrast to what the Bible itself says. Yes they are long, but truth is found in them. Lisa I will not intrude on your blogs anymore. I never meant to hurt your freelings. I personally wish that the truth would inspire you to ask questions. It did me about 7 years ago and the truth was painful at first, but very liberating as time went on. Things that did not make sense, now do. All because I took the time to want to look some things up. What I found was earth shaking for me...then a Charismatic Assembly of God believer for 30 years. The more I found out about their teachings, the more my life was remade. Here is one example. They, in the church's writing believe that a person must speak in tongues in order to be saved. Where they came up with that, I have no idea. Lisa that is one of the reasons that I put up the blog on the last 1600 years of the catholic Church and how it eveolved. The things they added, the things people said. There is importance in truth. Life is all about Jesus. He is the all in all. You know, the Holy Spirit is part of the Trinity, part of God. Yet the Holy Spirit never points to himself. He only points to Jesus Christ. Why would anyone place such an emphasis on Mary, if God himself only points towards Jesus? Think on that. Think on why it took 1200 years to implement "confession" as a need. There are many things like that that do not add up. So is it mean to point out that things do not line up? My faith is found in the scriptures which were God inspired. Catholics were not the only ones canonizing the scriptures. The Protestants were doing the same thing. Anyway, I am sorry, not for what I said; but that you are offended. But think on this, the Gospel always has offended people and always will. "I want to apologize to Lisa and other Catholics that think I come off as arrogant and insensitive towards their belief system." HE NEVER SAYS HE IS ARROGANT AND INSENSTIIVE. "Lisa I will not intrude on your blogs anymore. I never meant to hurt your feelings." MUCH BETTER... "So is it mean to point out that things do not line up ?" I WOULD AGREE WITH WHAT HE SAYS HERE, BUT THE TRUTH IS HE WENT OVERBOARD IN PUSHING THEIR FACE IN IT! MOVING AWAY FROM APOLOGY MODE... Anyway, I am sorry, not for what I said; but that you are offended. AND IT ENDS WITH A SLAM DUNK! APOLOGY REJECTED! Summary of statement, I apologize you misunderstand me. Tough cookies, but please chew on them, Lisa. I suggest you do a study on the meaning of apology, Claudia...
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5/5/2008 6:17 pm |
And let me tell you something else. When the Sunday Laws are passed, as according to Bible Prophecy, THAT is going to be the real root of the problem is, Christians thinking that they have the right to be as CONSCIENCE for everybody else, a sort of a "Unity" "Group Think". If the guy thinks doctrine is wrong and he wants to say so, guess what? YOU ARE NOT GOD!
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5/5/2008 10:28 pm |
Hisglory, I honestly do not recall anything about you defending me in any way. Not that Im questioning that but I just do not remember. I dont know if I read it and if so, cannot recall it. You completely misunderstand about the Sabbath, of course you worship God every day, that isnt the issue but that is an entirely different subject which I will be addressing shortly on my own blog. I have no idea why you'd lose Jean's friendship but primarily thats what Im talking about. WHY? We all should love each other REGARDLESS. ...that is my point. I shall refresh you a little. It was in March of last year when several people posted blogs condenming your church. Jean, Dennis, Kim, and Steve (godlycook) were all posting against SDA at the same time. I started by posting my own blog Accuser of the Brethern but the attacks continued. You were likely too busy arguing with all the accusers to have seen my post. My confrontation with Jean was mostly done via E-mail, but it started with a comment I posted in her blog, which I copied into Kim's blog, and godlycook's blog about how it is wrong to go around condemning other churches. I stated about how we need to fellowship and pray together, and stand in unity against the real enemy, Satan. I also made remarks about defending Dennis then with the accusations he was making at the time. Kim didn't respond. Steve replied along the lines of he saw no reason to fellowship with members of a cult. Jean came more unglued, and I took the discussion to E-mail, which ended in her asking me to leave her alone and not comment on her blogs anymore. Then she banned me. That was the last direct corispondence I had with Jean. I mentioned it in one of your blogs once before when you becried about how no one was defending you. I wasn't defending you because I agreed with you, for I only agree on Saturday was the Bible defined Sabbath. The rest I have no desire to discuss because doctrinally I disagree with SDA, and agree with the conclusions the accusers came to. However, I did not agree with their presentation, or method thereof, and that was the issue I had with them. I see no reason to exclude fellowshiping with folks of other churches soley because I don't embrace what they believe. Your beliefs are your business, and to tell you that you are wrong is not my place. To do so would make me a judgemental hipocrite, and I'm more mature then that. I can agree to disagree, and appreciate you for your diversity. And now, I'm applying the same with Lisa. In truth, I agree with very little of what comes out of the Catholic Church. I personally feel many of their beliefs utterly conterdict the Bible, but I won't confront a Catholic any more then I would you. Her beliefs are her's, and I won't challenge them. Again to do so places me in a position of judgement, and I will not go there. I can,have, and will fellowship with Lisa without discussing differences in our beliefs. I am aware of the hot button topics, and I stay away from them, just like I do with you. Instead I prefer to look for her positive atributes, just like I do with you, and just like with you, she has a lot of them. This is something I've been learning to do, and it's not always easy, for I still love a good arguement, and I could get an enormus amount of excitement, exceleration, and satisfaction from slam dunking the arrogant Christian Pharisee's with their own hipcroseys, BUT that doesn't glorify God, or edify the fellow believers I would argue with. The time to make it about me is past. Now it's time to make it about Jesus. Isaiah 66:2b; But to this one I will look, To him who is humble and contrite of spirit, and who trembles at My word.
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5/6/2008 4:48 pm |
Frazz, Here essentially is the 'apology.' You belong to an evil and stupid group. I apologize if YOU misunderstand what I have just said. NO this is what he said, and you are always trying to demonize him. Just like you do to me. --------------------------- People who know me know that I am strong willed and i also stick to my guns. You will not find me apologizing for much. One of the reasons is that I believe truth matters above all things whether it be friendships or whatever. ... Anyway, I am sorry, not for what I said; but that you are offended. But think on this, the Gospel always has offended people and always will. My reponse to Shouldknow: Maybe w_m was incorrect on his 2nd sentence but he dang well was correct on the 3rd one. Look above with what I quoted you saying Tropical_Man saying. It's almost word for word.
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5/6/2008 5:40 pm |
And let me tell you something else. When the Sunday Laws are passed, as according to Bible Prophecy, THAT is going to be the real root of the problem is, Christians thinking that they have the right to be as CONSCIENCE for everybody else, a sort of a "Unity" "Group Think". If the guy thinks doctrine is wrong and he wants to say so, guess what? YOU ARE NOT GOD! Peace?
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5/7/2008 8:07 am |
Merlin, When Jesus said something correct and someone else was offended by it, do you think Jesus was sorry for what he said or do you think He was sorry that they were offended? Mt:15:12: Then came his disciples, and said unto him, Knowest thou that the Pharisees were offended, after they heard this saying?
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5/7/2008 8:33 am |
I blocked you because you are an unreasonable person that lacks the ability to comphrehend statements. You are a liberal and have little absolutes. So all is relative. I dont think you can understand what an apology is. If I had been wrong in what I said about the unChristian cult that Catholicism is, then I would have apologized for that. Nothing I said was wrong. I based it all on the scriptures that catholicism contradicts. But the Word of God, in its context is the final answer. So Byron. I had nothing to apologize in regards to that. Nothing. I did not go to any Catholics blog and beat on them. I put posts up displaying exactly what the errors are. I went to other peoples' posts and I concurred with them. Lisa put up a blog that in my opion is unfair. Its like a little baby that says if you dont do things my way I am gonna take my ball and leave. Thats what she did. That is the same as trying to control what other people write about. We arent trying to control what she writes about. I hope you can comphrehend what I did say just now. Because my apology was for her feelings being hurt. That is sincere. I put info out there so people could see just how wrong it really is. Most Catholics do not even know what the writings of the catholic Church teach. I would never apologize for telling the truth. I see you place this up here in a way to be a populace figure. Byron you are an insecure man who begs for attention. I am out, wont be back. Just wanted to address your ignorance in understanding an apology.I did apologize that her feelings were hurt. Thats it. Hopefully it will make her think how far off base catholicism is. it is just as bad as Mormonism
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5/7/2008 12:22 pm |
I blocked you because you are an unreasonable person that lacks the ability to comphrehend statements. You are a liberal and have little absolutes. So all is relative. I dont think you can understand what an apology is. If I had been wrong in what I said about the unChristian cult that Catholicism is, then I would have apologized for that. Nothing I said was wrong. I based it all on the scriptures that catholicism contradicts. But the Word of God, in its context is the final answer. So Byron. I had nothing to apologize in regards to that. Nothing. I did not go to any Catholics blog and beat on them. I put posts up displaying exactly what the errors are. I went to other peoples' posts and I concurred with them. Lisa put up a blog that in my opion is unfair. Its like a little baby that says if you dont do things my way I am gonna take my ball and leave. Thats what she did. That is the same as trying to control what other people write about. We arent trying to control what she writes about. I hope you can comphrehend what I did say just now. Because my apology was for her feelings being hurt. That is sincere. I put info out there so people could see just how wrong it really is. Most Catholics do not even know what the writings of the catholic Church teach. I would never apologize for telling the truth. I see you place this up here in a way to be a populace figure. Byron you are an insecure man who begs for attention. I am out, wont be back. Just wanted to address your ignorance in understanding an apology.I did apologize that her feelings were hurt. Thats it. Hopefully it will make her think how far off base catholicism is. it is just as bad as Mormonism WHY couldn't it be YOU and YOUR COHORT that preach a False Jesus and are trying to mislead and deceive others??? COULD YOU PROVE IT ??? Or do you need help from "the so-called experts"??? Do you remember what Jesus said to the Devil, when he was tempting him, that it WAS written???
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5/7/2008 2:12 pm |
Merlin, When Jesus said something correct and someone else was offended by it, do you think Jesus was sorry for what he said or do you think He was sorry that they were offended? Mt:15:12: Then came his disciples, and said unto him, Knowest thou that the Pharisees were offended, after they heard this saying? c) He wasn't sorry they were offended and he wasn't sorry he said what they became offended at. He did feel grieved (not sorry) that they reacted this way but He also knew they would.
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5/7/2008 7:38 pm |
WHY couldn't it be YOU and YOUR COHORT that preach a False Jesus and are trying to mislead and deceive others??? COULD YOU PROVE IT ??? Or do you need help from "the so-called experts"??? Do you remember what Jesus said to the Devil, when he was tempting him, that it WAS written??? We are what we believe we are. C. S. Lewis
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5/8/2008 12:20 am |
I blocked you because you are an unreasonable person that lacks the ability to comphrehend statements. You are a liberal and have little absolutes. So all is relative. I dont think you can understand what an apology is. If I had been wrong in what I said about the unChristian cult that Catholicism is, then I would have apologized for that. Nothing I said was wrong. I based it all on the scriptures that catholicism contradicts. But the Word of God, in its context is the final answer. So Byron. I had nothing to apologize in regards to that. Nothing. I did not go to any Catholics blog and beat on them. I put posts up displaying exactly what the errors are. I went to other peoples' posts and I concurred with them. Lisa put up a blog that in my opion is unfair. Its like a little baby that says if you dont do things my way I am gonna take my ball and leave. Thats what she did. That is the same as trying to control what other people write about. We arent trying to control what she writes about. I hope you can comphrehend what I did say just now. Because my apology was for her feelings being hurt. That is sincere. I put info out there so people could see just how wrong it really is. Most Catholics do not even know what the writings of the catholic Church teach. I would never apologize for telling the truth. I see you place this up here in a way to be a populace figure. Byron you are an insecure man who begs for attention. I am out, wont be back. Just wanted to address your ignorance in understanding an apology.I did apologize that her feelings were hurt. Thats it. Hopefully it will make her think how far off base catholicism is. it is just as bad as Mormonism Thanks for stopping by my blog. I have to commend you for having the courage to actually post here. Having once been an accuser of the brethren, I do understand their way of thinking, and your reply here is pretty close to textbook reaction. You started out with accusatory insults, the very things you are yourself, except of coarse you can't see them because you are preoccupied with everyone else's downfalls. Let's see now, unreasonable? That would be someone who refuses to change their stance, no matter how many people prove them wrong, or how wrong they are. Which is not me. When provided solid evidence which is confirmed, I always change my stance. Even if questionable, I at least will look at it. You, on the other hand will continue to argue. Lacks the ability to comprehend statements? That would be understanding the real issues, and even in your reply you clearly don't, when you continue to cut down the Catholic Church. I clearly defined the issue as whether or not your public statement to Lisa was an apology. It was made crystal clear that it is wrong to persecute Lisa over her church's beliefs, and especially when Lisa herself never affirmed or denied her personal beliefs in regard to the Catholics, yet even after all that, you still did so. Which shows a very big inability to comprehend statements on your part. Liberals have nothing to do with this matter, so I'm not going to dignify that, and I got no idea how you could say I have little absolutes. From my very first post here I have spoke of the Bible as being The Word of God, and one can't be more absolute then that. You claimed I don't know what an apology is, yet I defined it at least a half dozen times in this blog post alone. But again, all this is the methodology of an accuser of the brethren. All you have said about me is actually true of yourself, except for the liberal thing, and perhaps the absolutes. You go to great lengths to prove the Catholics are wrong. Here's the newsflash. Nobody who got upset over it is upset about if the Catholics are wrong, what was upsetting was THAT you said the Catholics are wrong. I don't agree with the Catholics myself, but I don't go around telling everyone where, how, and why I believe they are wrong. That is judgment, in it's least common denominator, and violates the first amendment to the U. S. Constitution, and is why you are in hot water over this. Then you called me an insecure man who begs for attention. When I read this to my girlfriend, she almost laughed herself to tears. Who makes their blogs so that only friends, or those who agree may post? Who will post a whole bunch of new blogs in a matter of a few minutes? Everyone wants to have a popular or active blog, but seldom are my blogs ever among them. I think this is only the forth or fifth time I've had anything make the list of most active blogs,(this one right now is in 10th place, and won't likely make it much higher) and only one ever went all the way to the top, and that one I deleted at the very pinnacle of it's activeness because it was making a negative stir here in Blogland. So, who is insecure? who begs for attention? and who is trying to produce more active blogs? The issue never was and still isn't in what you presented, but THAT you presented it, and did so in an obstinate, insensitive, and arrogant manner. Then instead of apologizing for your rudeness, you used your rudeness to add insult to injury. Rather then express concerns for how far off base someone else's religion is, you should be concerned with how un-Christlike your conduct is. You don't inspire anyone to look at the possibility that they may be wrong, you just infuriate them with your rudeness, and in-compassionate insults. What would Jesus say? John 8:10 When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee? 11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more. Isaiah 66:2b; But to this one I will look, To him who is humble and contrite of spirit, and who trembles at My word.
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5/8/2008 1:50 am |
COHORT? Who might that be? Cause I sure aint nobody's cohort.
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5/8/2008 1:51 am |
Answer: c) He wasn't sorry they were offended and he wasn't sorry he said what they became offended at. He did feel grieved (not sorry) that they reacted this way but He also knew they would. well okayyyyyyyyyyyy. I agree with you.
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5/8/2008 1:59 am |
Hi Dennis; Thanks for stopping by my blog. I have to commend you for having the courage to actually post here. Having once been an accuser of the brethren, I do understand their way of thinking, and your reply here is pretty close to textbook reaction. You started out with accusatory insults, the very things you are yourself, except of coarse you can't see them because you are preoccupied with everyone else's downfalls. Let's see now, unreasonable? That would be someone who refuses to change their stance, no matter how many people prove them wrong, or how wrong they are. Which is not me. When provided solid evidence which is confirmed, I always change my stance. Even if questionable, I at least will look at it. You, on the other hand will continue to argue. Lacks the ability to comprehend statements? That would be understanding the real issues, and even in your reply you clearly don't, when you continue to cut down the Catholic Church. I clearly defined the issue as whether or not your public statement to Lisa was an apology. It was made crystal clear that it is wrong to persecute Lisa over her church's beliefs, and especially when Lisa herself never affirmed or denied her personal beliefs in regard to the Catholics, yet even after all that, you still did so. Which shows a very big inability to comprehend statements on your part. Liberals have nothing to do with this matter, so I'm not going to dignify that, and I got no idea how you could say I have little absolutes. From my very first post here I have spoke of the Bible as being The Word of God, and one can't be more absolute then that. You claimed I don't know what an apology is, yet I defined it at least a half dozen times in this blog post alone. But again, all this is the methodology of an accuser of the brethren. All you have said about me is actually true of yourself, except for the liberal thing, and perhaps the absolutes. You go to great lengths to prove the Catholics are wrong. Here's the newsflash. Nobody who got upset over it is upset about if the Catholics are wrong, what was upsetting was THAT you said the Catholics are wrong. I don't agree with the Catholics myself, but I don't go around telling everyone where, how, and why I believe they are wrong. That is judgment, in it's least common denominator, and violates the first amendment to the U. S. Constitution, and is why you are in hot water over this. Then you called me an insecure man who begs for attention. When I read this to my girlfriend, she almost laughed herself to tears. Who makes their blogs so that only friends, or those who agree may post? Who will post a whole bunch of new blogs in a matter of a few minutes? Everyone wants to have a popular or active blog, but seldom are my blogs ever among them. I think this is only the forth or fifth time I've had anything make the list of most active blogs,(this one right now is in 10th place, and won't likely make it much higher) and only one ever went all the way to the top, and that one I deleted at the very pinnacle of it's activeness because it was making a negative stir here in Blogland. So, who is insecure? who begs for attention? and who is trying to produce more active blogs? The issue never was and still isn't in what you presented, but THAT you presented it, and did so in an obstinate, insensitive, and arrogant manner. Then instead of apologizing for your rudeness, you used your rudeness to add insult to injury. Rather then express concerns for how far off base someone else's religion is, you should be concerned with how un-Christlike your conduct is. You don't inspire anyone to look at the possibility that they may be wrong, you just infuriate them with your rudeness, and in-compassionate insults. What would Jesus say? John 8:10 When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee? 11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more. When you said this part (the part in red) "The issue never was and still isn't in what you presented, but THAT you presented it, and did so in an obstinate, insensitive, and arrogant manner. Then instead of apologizing for your rudeness, you used your rudeness to add insult to injury. Rather then express concerns for how far off base someone else's religion is, you should be concerned with how un-Christlike your conduct is. You don't inspire anyone to look at the possibility that they may be wrong, you just infuriate them with your rudeness, and in-compassionate insults. What would Jesus say?" Now see, I can agree with THAT. I often think about how I need to use more tact and etc and so forth. I am lacking that, I freely admit and have said that. BUT I think that THAT is what you guys shouldve said to Dennis in the first place. Not that Im trying to be critical but it would REALLY bother me if I apologized to someone and then everyone did some kind of survey type thing to see who thought my apology was genuine. Thats just not right. Apologizing for something he didnt realize he needed to apologize for.. THATS more like it. And, thats a cute Santa/Banana/Toothbrush picture of you you put up by the way, it made me chuckle. I will make an extra effort because of this particular post of yours, and have been trying to anyway, to say things in a more tactful, considerate way. and Im truly sorry about the Jean/reallysaved situation. I hope that will be resolved and I really do THANK you now for defending my right to believe as I do. maybe if you just tried sending a little email to her or something, that might change things.. or saying something to her in posts.
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5/8/2008 8:25 am |
COHORT? Who might that be? Not even a "friend"? Indeed to stare at a computer screen all day along (and alone) can turn one "square"!!! Then please guys, let's consider ourselves warned!!!
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5/8/2008 10:38 am |
wouldnt staring at a computer screen all day turn you rectangular instead of square?
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5/8/2008 8:18 pm |
Merlin, well okayyyyyyyyyyyy. I agree with you.  <<< j/k...heh 
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5/8/2008 8:19 pm |
wouldnt staring at a computer screen all day turn you rectangular instead of square? ...i never thought of it that way before.
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5/8/2008 10:03 pm |
dont be offended by hypocrisy people jesus refers to the wheat and the tares growing up along side of us an inside of us...so lets all just get humble and use these times to allow God to give us deeper humility dont gt offended by tares in me or you or dennis or whatever iron sharpens iron...and toughness is a quality required we need the dennises of the church,,,and he needs us to soften him he is a brash peter with a watchmans gift that is accurate...watchman usually get rejected a lot....but pray that his character (ie much needed h | ||
