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Question......... Matthew 7:21-23
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I think that these are the scariest verses in Bible.. It seems to me that it would be clear to a person if they are serving God or themselves, yet it seems like it will be a shock to these that Jesus is talking about here.. Maybe I'm reading too much into these verses, but I pray that none of us would be so deceived that we are clueless to who(Jesus) we serve!.. Banana and toothbrushes... Oh no not again... lol Life is too short so Lighten Up a bit... |
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8/14/2009 6:39 am |
I believe to really know someone you have to have a personal relationship with them. I think this is maybe what is being said here. Some claim to know Him but have no clue who He really is. They have the book knowledge but no heart knowledge. And it's all about the heart! God says man looks on the outward but He looks at the inside, the heart. He judges by what's in the heart. He told me one time that all that glitters is not gold. And I think it can work the opposite too. Just because someone looks like he's/she's not saved doesn't mean they're not. They could have the purest heart! And someone who acts or talks like they're saved and on the way to Heaven may have the blackest heart God has ever seen. Only God can see the heart! Love and Hugs   Lord, keep one hand on my shoulder and one hand over my mouth!
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8/14/2009 7:52 am |
Yendor, The real truth is that the modern Bible translations took the ZING out of those verses. It actually says in the King James Version that Jesus says "Depart from Me, ye that do INIQUITY" and iniquity means SIN and sin means transgression of the Law, transgression of the 10 Commandments. Now this is where "Grace alone" people will try and get into this thing where they will claim well we cant possibly keep the law anyway! But Jesus said of these two people, Lk:1:6: And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless. So that does away with THAT misconception. You see, Ive always said that they are the real legalists because they view God as being LEGALISTIC, so they think God created commandments we cant even keep because they view Him as sitting there watching our every move and waiting to catch us in an infraction so He can whop us over the head and condemn us. Truth is, God is looking for our LOVE AND LOYALTY. He wants our hearts, He wants what He has ALWAYS wanted... Micah:6:8: He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? God just wants us to desire to servie Him and keep His commandments because we love Him... to love God with all our heart, soul and mind. But these verses are THERE and God really means what He says. The standard hasnt been lowered just because Jesus died for our sins. The people in old testament times relied on the coming Savior and thats why they slew the lamb. They were saved by grace just as we are, but grace never gives license to sin.
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8/14/2009 10:50 am |
Hi Rod Are we walking the walk or just talking the talk. We must belong wholly to HIM. Hallelu!  Romans 14 verse 5 One person regards one day holier than other days, and another regards them all alike. 3 Each must be fully convinced in his own mind.
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8/14/2009 12:41 pm |
Clanging cymbals, clouds with no rain, wells with no water! White washed sepulchers! All clean on the outside with nothing but death and emptiness on the inside. All show; look at me! I know the bible frontwards and backwards, I've memorized the whole thing. Just ask me something and I'll tell you because I know it all. Prideful and haughty! They preach love, grace and forgiveness but have none for their brothers. They can talk the talk but don't walk the walk. They have book knowledge but no heart knowledge. All show but no heart! Thank you my brother for letting me vent. LOL I probably got way off the topic. Love and Hugs Lord, keep one hand on my shoulder and one hand over my mouth!
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8/14/2009 1:27 pm |
Oh one more thing. I'm on a roll, don't stop me now.  Jesus says freely you received, freely give. If you've ever received love, grace or forgiveness then you should, according to Jesus, give it out.....freely. I don't know about you but I've received way more love, grace and forgiveness than I deserve but He keeps giving it anyway.....freely. So rather someone deserves our love, grace or forgiveness or not is not our call......He says give! Okay I'm gone.....unless I think of something else. Love and Hugs I guess you could say I have a bee in my bonnet. LOL Lord, keep one hand on my shoulder and one hand over my mouth!
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 8/14/2009 2:55 pm |
I'm not sure how much humility is found on the blogs. That seems to be a different topic, but we have to be careful to not invalidate our relationship with God. Rebekka, as you say, you seem to be on a roll. Concerning whether we quality as being in relationship with God or not, I second what Claudia said, as follows: "Truth is, God is looking for our LOVE AND LOYALTY. He wants our hearts, He wants what He has ALWAYS wanted... Micah:6:8: He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?" If we continually resist what God is seeking to do in and through us, we might well fall short of a qualifying relationship. This is why it's important that we work out our salvation with fear and trembling. There's no room for mockery, and God forbid we place a stumbling block in another's path.
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8/14/2009 7:40 pm |
"but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven" so, what IS the will of our Father? If Jesus is going to say DEPART by the multitudes!, what part of Gods will are they forgetting? Evidentally the people who hear "depart" are doing pretty good things for others, etc.. scarey..
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8/14/2009 8:36 pm |
yendor2 replies on 8/14/2009 8:28 pm: Hi Longing... "work out our salvation".. as many different understandings to many people... Sometimes I think that this walk is too hard.. Praise God for His grace that makes up for my shortcomings!.. That's why we are to work out our salvation with God, not another man.
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8/14/2009 9:03 pm |
Rebekka said it all! You go girl. To Him be the glory.
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8/14/2009 9:16 pm |
Oh one more thing. I'm on a roll, don't stop me now. Jesus says freely you received, freely give. If you've ever received love, grace or forgiveness then you should, according to Jesus, give it out.....freely. I don't know about you but I've received way more love, grace and forgiveness than I deserve but He keeps giving it anyway.....freely. So rather someone deserves our love, grace or forgiveness or not is not our call......He says give! Okay I'm gone.....unless I think of something else. Love and Hugs I guess you could say I have a bee in my bonnet. LOL You preach it girl!  Romans 14 verse 5 One person regards one day holier than other days, and another regards them all alike. 3 Each must be fully convinced in his own mind.
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8/15/2009 3:41 am |
Yendor, You said "Thanks Claudia... and I agree with you that grace dosen't give us a license to sin.. yet without grace we are chained to our sin...." I absolutely AGREE WITH YOU! Thats really a great way to put it, I think. Its the grace of God, His love, His mercy, His forgiveness and even His power, which is ONLY given out of mercy and grace, that we CAN ever overcome ANY sin. And honestly, it seems that when Im THINKING about God's love for me and Jesus dying for me, undeserved by me, that I am inspired to even WANT to overcome sin. IN FACT, the Bible says, 2Cor:3:18: But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord. see how it says that by BEHOLDING God we ourselves are changed into the same image? Its not by trying to force ourselves to 'be good' or by doing good out of some sense of 'obligation' ... its by beholding the love of God for us, we ourselves become changed into the same image. ...and it can be a really slow process, because God has SO MUCH to teach us, things to unlearn and things to learn. Isaiah 1:17: Learn to do well
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8/28/2009 6:56 am |
Clanging cymbals, clouds with no rain, wells with no water! White washed sepulchers! All clean on the outside with nothing but death and emptiness on the inside. All show; look at me! I know the bible frontwards and backwards, I've memorized the whole thing. Just ask me something and I'll tell you because I know it all. Prideful and haughty! They preach love, grace and forgiveness but have none for their brothers. They can talk the talk but don't walk the walk. They have book knowledge but no heart knowledge. All show but no heart! Thank you my brother for letting me vent. LOL I probably got way off the topic. Love and Hugs Healing people? Helping the poor? Many wonderous things in HIS NAME? These are the ones He called workers of iniquity. WHY? Since you believe it takes MORE than following those things --- WHAT IS JESUS EVEN TALKING ABOUT when it comes to being MORE RIGHTEOUS THAN THEM OTHER FOLKS? What MORE could a CHRISTIAN possibly be DOING if they are already working MIRACLES IN JESUS NAME??? Yer idea just doesn't address the REAL PROBLEM since what you posted has nothing to DO with what Jesus was teaching. IF IT IS INIQUITY TO DO THE MIRACLES AND WONDERS AND WORKS--- WHAT IS JESUS TELLING YOU ABOUT THE ENTIRE THING- and WHERE IT WENT WRONG? Makes my backside tired when sinner people bang other sinners for doing the EXACT SAME CRAP THEY THEMSELVES DO. Jesus pointed to the CURE- and told ya that CHRISTIANITY WAS GUNNA MAKE YA SICK ALL OVER AGAIN. SO WHO HERE IS A CHRISTIAN? Let's see yet another SHOW OF HANDS. WHAT WORKS ARE YA DOING FOR GOD AND WHY? Best be looking at where JESUS pointed ya- cuz ya ain't EVER gunna get there as a CHRISTIAN.  He really DID say so. Must be something ELSE He wanted ya to know eh? Wonder WHAT... Addendum to "losing my faith"...
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8/28/2009 7:00 am |
Oh one more thing. I'm on a roll, don't stop me now. Jesus says freely you received, freely give. If you've ever received love, grace or forgiveness then you should, according to Jesus, give it out.....freely. I don't know about you but I've received way more love, grace and forgiveness than I deserve but He keeps giving it anyway.....freely. So rather someone deserves our love, grace or forgiveness or not is not our call......He says give! Okay I'm gone.....unless I think of something else. Love and Hugs I guess you could say I have a bee in my bonnet. LOL Addendum to "losing my faith"...
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8/28/2009 7:13 am |
I'm not sure how much humility is found on the blogs. That seems to be a different topic, but we have to be careful to not invalidate our relationship with God. Rebekka, as you say, you seem to be on a roll. Concerning whether we quality as being in relationship with God or not, I second what Claudia said, as follows: "Truth is, God is looking for our LOVE AND LOYALTY. He wants our hearts, He wants what He has ALWAYS wanted... Micah:6:8: He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?" If we continually resist what God is seeking to do in and through us, we might well fall short of a qualifying relationship. This is why it's important that we work out our salvation with fear and trembling. There's no room for mockery, and God forbid we place a stumbling block in another's path. "There's no room for mockery, and God forbid we place a stumbling block in another's path." Wrong. There's plenty of room for mockery when yer showing someone how STUPID they are being. Ya have to wake them UP to the fact that they are wrong and NOT willing to stand in the light of TRUTH somehow. As for the "stumbling block idea---" Wrong yet again. When they are running headlong down the wrong pathway and headed for destruction- what better idea is there to STOP THEM than put them face down in the mud and no longer running headlong to destruction? If ya would STOP with the BS long enough to UNDERSTAND JESUS- ya would KNOW why yer so wrong. But then again- yer trying to be all holy and "right with God" that ya can't even define "right with God" even. Lemme ask ya- ... --- ... Do ya THINK yer right with God so's ya can even try to tell OTHERS what a "stumbling block" even is? Or are ya "still working out yer salvation in fear and trembling" when yer SUPPOSEDLY ALREADY SAVED? People like YOU make me wanna PUKE yer so double minded--- I almost get DIZZY even trying to follow the BS ya teach. Jesus way was SIMPLE. Yers is so complex and sinful even SATAN would be laughing at the STUPIDITY ya believe in. Addendum to "losing my faith"...
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8/28/2009 9:21 am |
It says that zion would be given a stumbling block and a rock of offense. It also says the Laws are like that too.. And it also says that "whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed." Isnt that a good thing? Wouldnt that be kind of like God keeping us too? Well, i was thinking about something else too... that prophet that was going to do a baddy... his donkey stumbled (or was stopped by an angel) and the prophet couldnt go do what he was planning LOL
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8/28/2009 3:45 pm |
"Out of context" and not at all what He was showing them to be DOING. Has ya EVER understood why those things can't be "freely given" even if ya have recieved them (supposedly )? He was talking about something else with that "freely given" thingie. Wanna name the REAL focus of the statement? Can ya figger it out? Go for it!  Okay G., I'm kinda seeing what you are saying, I think. Forgiveness? 7X70 Love? Do we love those that hate God? I struggle with that one. Does He hate? It says He does. Grace? Not sure that meaning of that word is correctly defined but from my understanding....I CAN'T give it.To Him be the glory.
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8/28/2009 4:33 pm |
I really don't get it!... Elizabeth was venting her frustration she didn't direct it at anyone personally.. I understood it and even feel her same frustration here in the blogs.. and I'm really not sure what Longing said that was so wrong either.. I would think that showing someone how STUPID they are would be very damaging in trying to get them to believe/understand what you want to show them!.. Gordy I like you.. i really do.. but I don't get you!.. you seem to be angry in the blogs most of the time.. Why?.. maybe it is more frustration then anger, i'm not sure.. You say that if people would "UNDERSTAND JESUS- ya would KNOW why yer so wrong." i say Gordy help us, help me!.. because you see Gordy I believe that what I have is real.. I won't pretend and say that I know everything, but I do know what I have/experience, and if its not true then there is something supernatural deceiving me!.. I'm not angry with you Gordy, I'm just growing weary of this place.. God is so much more then we imagine.. His Love.. His grace.. His mercy.. His strength.. etc.. etc.. Funny how different people get different things form Gods word.. When I read the Gospels.. I see love.. love.. love.. maybe we just understand the things we want or need personally!.. Banana and toothbrushes... Oh no not again... lol Life is too short so Lighten Up a bit...
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8/29/2009 7:57 am |
Yendor...I really don't know and just trying to figure it out. May never do that, huh. Like I said about struggling with the love part. I've been told that I shouldn't love others who are not loving God. I can't do that with my kids at school. In fact, it is the love that we give them that HELPS them. God working through us. Jesus responded in different ways to those who hated him. He had anger towards the Pharisees that kept his people in bondage. God has righteous hate...is it possible that our hate can be righteous as well? I don't think that we should remain without emotions and let people trample us but at the same time...what to accept and not to accept...what to give and not to give. I'm confused about that. Please tell me what you think grace means to you. When I look at how it is referenced through the entire Bible, I start to get a different picture. BUT not sure about that either. I'm dumb as a tick about God yendor and have many areas that are not solid. If people were honest with themselves then they would admit that they only know a tiny, tiny piece of what God is about. Jesus said no one knows Him but the son. So, then we have to understand what Jesus was about to even begin to comprehend the Father. That in itself is HUGE. And we will only KNOW what God deems us worthy of knowing. The rest is PURE speculation. To Him be the glory.
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8/29/2009 8:36 pm |
HEY!!!!! I wrote like an entire two paragraphs on a little itty bitty phone and it's not here.  It's hit and miss on that thing. Anyway, Jer told me that we are to HATE everyone that is not with God. So that would include my kids and mother as they are not saved, right? I can't hate them. He said something that I can't remember now to explain that but to me it's black and white with no grey. Either you are saying that I should hate everyone who is not with God or not. I thought that to but when I search the word grace on biblegateway and read the scriptures, it doesn't look like that. Try it and see what you think. I was reading Acts tonight...Stephen, a man full of God's grace and power..... I'll put up a blog and ask people what they think, come visit. To Him be the glory.
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