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heartforedjehu
11/18/2008 7:11 am |
Hello Saints, I'm really not going political here, but just thought this information needed to be shared. Many of you most likely already know this but for those who don't, you may be interested. President Bush went to war with the explicit authority of the U.S. congress, which legitimized the Iraq war in terms of U.S. domestic law. Many Americans believe the US Congress is the ultimate authority and that its approval resolves all legal objections to the war. Yet the war is inherently illegal under international law, which the US helped to create. Something has to give here, these two notions cannot co-exist. Until 2003 both the theory and practice of international law was coming to accept that the use of force would be legitimate (legal) only under two conditions: first, if it is used as an act of self-defense, and second: if it is authorized by the UN security council. It did not happen. Hitherto, both the US and UK have been the main custodians of international law. Excerpts from "The New Asian Hemisphere". Go figure, this creates global cynicism and disillusionment. Now, we know that there is a spiritual enmity between much of the West and those who are descendants of Abraham through Ishmael in the middle east. This is clear to understand and we need only look at the ensample of the Bible story of Sarah, Hagar, Ishmael and Isaac. Yes, this enmity has been going on a long, long time. Yet the blunders we have made are not helping endear us to anyone, let alone the Muslim nations. Hence, the more we carry on, the more fear is generated because we have stirred up so much hatred. We have every right to be fearful. Not in the spiritual sense, only in the natural realm. God's plan is fully underway. Let us watch and listen for the voice of our shepherd. We are a nation within a nation. Not an Obamanation, not a Bushnation, but a Holy Nation! 1 Peter 2: 9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvelous light: 10: Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy. From one bride to another, God keep you, bless you, increase you, Rhonda  
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 11/18/2008 9:03 am |
"But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light; Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy." 1 Peter 2:9-10 - Pat -My Testimony ... Updated.
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11/18/2008 9:21 am |
... and certainly NOT an AbomiNation either!!!...  Point made dear sister!  
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11/18/2008 11:13 am |
I agree with your entire post except one small fact. The mandate given to President Bush to invade Iraq had tied to it several caveats. One of the caveats was before any invasion ALL diplomatic avenues of resolution must be explored. The primary reason proffered for the invasion was the presence of WMD in Iraq, contrary to UN dictate. No credible evidence has ever been produced to show WMD existed at the time in Iraq and no significant discovery of WMD after the invasion substantiates the non-existence of WMD. Not only did the Bush administration fail to explore all diplomatic avenues of resolution, they fabricated the existence of WMD. Both of these accusations have been copiously proven. Belief in God represents a hospital for sinners, not a museum for saints
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11/18/2008 2:22 pm |
Hummm, I am not going to debate here,, you bring up good points. My thinking is that if we wait for the UN to allow us to go to war, then we become subservent to them and lose our soverenty(did i spell that right?) anyway, as a former active duty Marine. "You go were your told to go and fight who your told to fight" Sadly though we went in the spirit of idealism, in that way of thinking it never works out. Thank you.
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11/18/2008 5:03 pm |
"But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light; Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy." 1 Peter 2:9-10 So good to see you! Amen. I should probably stay away from such political posts on such a site as this but sometimes I cannot resist. Blessings, Rhonda From one bride to another, God keep you, bless you, increase you, Rhonda
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11/18/2008 5:04 pm |
... and certainly NOT an AbomiNation either!!!... Point made dear sister! Good to see ya, my friend. Blessings, too. From one bride to another, God keep you, bless you, increase you, Rhonda
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11/18/2008 5:07 pm |
I agree with your entire post except one small fact. The mandate given to President Bush to invade Iraq had tied to it several caveats. One of the caveats was before any invasion ALL diplomatic avenues of resolution must be explored. The primary reason proffered for the invasion was the presence of WMD in Iraq, contrary to UN dictate. No credible evidence has ever been produced to show WMD existed at the time in Iraq and no significant discovery of WMD after the invasion substantiates the non-existence of WMD. Not only did the Bush administration fail to explore all diplomatic avenues of resolution, they fabricated the existence of WMD. Both of these accusations have been copiously proven. Welcome to my blog. You are right. Good addition to this post. I am sorry for going so political on a Christian website. Perhaps at times they are tied a bit. Blessings, Rhonda From one bride to another, God keep you, bless you, increase you, Rhonda
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11/18/2008 5:14 pm |
Hummm, I am not going to debate here,, you bring up good points. My thinking is that if we wait for the UN to allow us to go to war, then we become subservent to them and lose our soverenty(did i spell that right?) anyway, as a former active duty Marine. "You go were your told to go and fight who your told to fight" Sadly though we went in the spirit of idealism, in that way of thinking it never works out. Thank you. From one bride to another, God keep you, bless you, increase you, Rhonda
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11/18/2008 6:58 pm |
Heck I dunno girl, much of the political maneuvering in relation to global entities and UN mandates etc etc etc, well it's above my little brains level of comprehension, I don't even think they all understand it. But I do know God is in control, He raises up whom He will and brings down whom He chooses so I just tend to blindly believe He is in control. As far as WMD's go, it is a known fact that Saddam had them, he used them against Iran and the Kurds. I have read inside reports that sincerely believe they were transported out of the country ( possibly to Syria ) during the days of UN red tape before the war began, I just have a hard time discounting that possibility as being valid. Beyond that, and also believing that Babylon ( which is not the U.S. but the actual Babylon of Nebuchadnezzar ) is described as rising to power to experience it's complete destruction as prophesied to happen, will happen, so again I see God's hand at work in the whole scenario. But maybe I'm simple minded, I simply believe God will accomplish all that He said He would, suppose I don't have to comprehend it all in order for it to come to pass just as He said it would. Very interesting stuff though! Hi Rhonda! Big Hugs! GBY!
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11/18/2008 9:32 pm |
Heck I dunno girl, much of the political maneuvering in relation to global entities and UN mandates etc etc etc, well it's above my little brains level of comprehension, I don't even think they all understand it. But I do know God is in control, He raises up whom He will and brings down whom He chooses so I just tend to blindly believe He is in control. As far as WMD's go, it is a known fact that Saddam had them, he used them against Iran and the Kurds. I have read inside reports that sincerely believe they were transported out of the country ( possibly to Syria ) during the days of UN red tape before the war began, I just have a hard time discounting that possibility as being valid. Beyond that, and also believing that Babylon ( which is not the U.S. but the actual Babylon of Nebuchadnezzar ) is described as rising to power to experience it's complete destruction as prophesied to happen, will happen, so again I see God's hand at work in the whole scenario. But maybe I'm simple minded, I simply believe God will accomplish all that He said He would, suppose I don't have to comprehend it all in order for it to come to pass just as He said it would. Very interesting stuff though! Hi Rhonda! Big Hugs! GBY! Love your comment. You know, I think I better quit reading so much of this stuff which is interesting, but a real brain twister. To us (children of the King) the only thing that truly matters is standing in Christ Jesus and remaining firmly there. I do not want to get distracted, yet I am suddenly interested in this subject matter. Generally, there is a reason the Lord has for me-- even in my interests. I will pray about this line of study. The brain strain-  Love and blessings brother in Jesus. RhondaFrom one bride to another, God keep you, bless you, increase you, Rhonda
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11/18/2008 10:09 pm |
Hi Rocky, Love your comment. You know, I think I better quit reading so much of this stuff which is interesting, but a real brain twister. To us (children of the King) the only thing that truly matters is standing in Christ Jesus and remaining firmly there. I do not want to get distracted, yet I am suddenly interested in this subject matter. Generally, there is a reason the Lord has for me-- even in my interests. I will pray about this line of study. The brain strain- Love and blessings brother in Jesus. RhondaHe has the whole world in His hands, He has the whole world in His hands...We sang that song as a child, but ya know, I still believe it. God Bless you with a double portion, you are so very precious!
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11/19/2008 6:42 am |
lol, not even saying that sis, the area of study your in definitely is of interest, just admitting I can't claim to be up to snuff in all of it. I believe you are absolutely correct that there is a reason and purpose God has in it for ya, He uses everything to accomplish His purpose in our lives, the renown Romans 8:28 verse comes to mind with emphasis on "all things". I think more than anything I was kind of adding to my brother Skariffs response there about all the who's and whys he suggests are the reasons for how and why things happened as they did. I just believe the who is God and the whys are to accomplish His purpose as He sets the stage for the end time events we now see coming together before our eyes. It may appear on the surface that certain world leading figures are responsible for events unfolding as they have though I suggest that in actuality they are nothing more than puppets who's strings are being pulled by the Master puppeteer Himself. I believe Saddam had to be taken out of power, God has another agenda with other players in mind, we can cast blame or credit on Bush or anyone else we choose for the re positioning of world powers but when all is said and done it is all God's brainchild for His own sovereign purposes. He has the whole world in His hands, He has the whole world in His hands...We sang that song as a child, but ya know, I still believe it. God Bless you with a double portion, you are so very precious! That is a wonderful assurance we have and knowing that he does have it all under control gives me much faith. Well, as far as this area of study, I will go a bit further with it, and I sure don't think I am up to snuff either, but, I have have gained some new insights regarding these last days. This post was not a Bush bash if it seemed so, it was more a view of America from a different perspective. Well, Saddam was most assuredly a terror to even his own people and there was rejoicing when he went down (if I recall) but now it is a different world. Things are changing fast! I am glad you reason together with me on this topic. I have been pleased that noone got upset and it has been a good thread. Glad we are friends. Have a blessed day. RhondaFrom one bride to another, God keep you, bless you, increase you, Rhonda
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