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heartforedjehu
8/9/2008 11:56 am |
I am so grateful for the conviction of the Holy Spirit. He lets me know if I'm doing something that grieves God or interferes with our fellowship. God is ever faithful to show me if I've done something wrong and helps me get back on track. He convicts and convinces me, but He never, ever condemns me. The Bible says: "For God so greatly loved and dearly prized the world that He [even] gave up His only begotten Son, so that whoever believes in (trusts in, clings to, relies on) Him shall not perish (come to destruction, be lost) but have eternal (everlasting) life. For God did not send the Son into the world in order to reject, to condemn, to pass sentence on the world- but that the world might find salvation and be made safe and sound through Him" (John 3:16-17, The Amplified Bible). God loves us even more than we love our own children, and in His love He disciplines us. I remember that disciplining our children can be very hard-- yet I knew the consequences of "no consequences" is a cruel and hard road. God has the same concern for us, but He is patient. He tells us again and again what we ought to do. He may tell us 20 different ways, trying to get our attention. Our God is so patient Saints. He will continue to woo us until we are ready to yield and become obedient. He waits as we are in his hands warmed and softened into the shape he wants us to be in. No worries, when we are his-we will yield. God Bless you dear Saints! "Therefore, when you are in Christ, you are a New Creation; the old has gone, the new is here and now!" - 2 Corinthians 5:17 - From one bride to another, God keep you, bless you, increase you, Rhonda  
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 8/9/2008 12:22 pm |
Good stuf Rhonda - abundant blessings to you and yours!! How can we NOT praise Him - Marilyn
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8/9/2008 1:10 pm |
Nice to read again about your "conviction" my dear sister! Do you remember my post: "Sealed by the Holy Spirit? Lots of blessings to you and all your family!! ... and to Marilyn too, of course!!  ... and to our "whole family"...  
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8/9/2008 1:29 pm |
I am just curious Rhonda. Is there a scripture that says the Holy Spirit convicts born again believers. Just curious because i know our Spirit man that is born again knows the difference between right and wrong. I know the Holy Spirit convicts the unsaved. There just isnt any evidence of what you are saying that I can find. Thats why I am asking.
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8/9/2008 1:46 pm |
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. You can ignore the Holy Spirit to the point you never feel convicted of anything, I know believers and non believers alike who seem to be totally dead to the promptings of the Holy Spirit across the board. What are they missing? What more might they miss? . . Continue to be faithful, deliverance is near, obedience must be seen, be an unconditional blessing as He continues to bless you. This time is short, serve Him well, serving all. Without exception. Know? Yes? ? .
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8/9/2008 1:56 pm |
CONVICTION: 1) A formal declaration that someone is guilty of a criminal offence... (VERB: CONVICT) 2) A firmly held belief or opinion... (VERB: CONVINCE) 2a) the quality of showing that one is firmly convinced of what one believes or says... OPINION: a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge... THE RIGHT WORD: When you give your opinion on something , you offer a conclusion or a judgment that, although it may be open to question, seems true and probable to you at the time. A view is an opinion that is affected by your personal feelings or biases, while a sentiment is a more or less settled opinion that may still be colored by emotion. A belief differs from an opinion or a view in that it is not necessarily the creation of the person who holds it; the emphasis here is on the mental acceptance of an idea, a proposition, or a doctrine and on the assurance of its truth. A conviction is a firmly held and unshakable belief whose truth is not doubted, while a persuasion (in this sense) is a strong belief that is unshakable because you want to believe that it's true rather than because there is evidence proving it so.
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8/9/2008 3:23 pm |
I was just listening to the newsboys song "spirit thing" a bit before reading this. "It's just a spirit thing, it's just a holy nudge, it's like a circuit judge in the brain. It's just a spirit thing, it's here to guard my heart, it's just a little hard to explain"
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 8/9/2008 6:11 pm |
Wonderful post Rhonda. Thank God for sending the gift of the indwelling Holy Spirit for mankind, if they will just accept the gift. If the world would only desire to have the indwelling Holy Spirit and then listen for the guidance the spirit gives them for all in life. Thanks, Rhonda and Blessings to you.
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8/9/2008 7:00 pm |
We may call it by different names - conviction, nudging, guidance, still small voice - I don't care what ya call it, I'm just glad the Lord cares enough about me to direct my ways Susan aka Red God gives the very best to those who leave the choices to Him. Now to him who is able to do immeasurably more than all we ask or imagine...to Him be the glory. Eph 3:20 Find me at my screen name, blogspot and the usual ending. See ya there! Where I For Everything There is a Season Halloween Pics from Work
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8/10/2008 9:23 am |
I am just curious Rhonda. Is there a scripture that says the Holy Spirit convicts born again believers. Just curious because i know our Spirit man that is born again knows the difference between right and wrong. I know the Holy Spirit convicts the unsaved. There just isnt any evidence of what you are saying that I can find. Thats why I am asking. The Holy Spirit is not in the unsaved. Not until they receive. I agree with this: "But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness to him: neither can he know the, for they are spiritually discerned." I Cor. 2:14 The Holy Spirit only convicts (convinces) a person of sin who has been born again. A person cannot believe until the see spiritually (John 3:3). Only the Spirit can use the law as a school master to bring one to Christ. The grace God that the Spirit uses on the elect is an irresistible grace which works effectually in God's plan to saves sinners through the righteousness of Christ. The sinner who is given spiritual life is now able to willingly seek God, understand the things of God, believe God, and repent of sin. This is a process that once started, God does not stop. The Spirit does not TRY to save anyone but the Spirit effectually, irresistibly, victoriously, calls the sheep of God to meet their Shepherd by the means of the gospel of grace. An unsaved spiritually dead sinner can only be convicted (convinced) by the law through their own conscience (Romans 2:14-15). The natural man is ignorant of the righteousness of God and as a result he is going about to establish a righteousness of his own (Romans 10:1-4). He has made a covenant with death. At his BEST he is altogether vanity (Psalm 39:5). He has no fear of God before his eyes. They have no ability to believe God or come to Him. They are not willing to do so either. The natural man receives not conviction, nor faith, nor repentance from the Spirit because these are spiritual gifts given to people with spiritual life. The Spirit does not convince, convict, persuade, woo, draw, or call the non elect sinner. If there is any work of the Spirit in the non elect that is effectual it is in the sending "them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie" (II Thes 2:11). Thank you Dennis for stopping by. Blessings to you. From one bride to another, God keep you, bless you, increase you, Rhonda
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8/10/2008 9:26 am |
Good stuf Rhonda - abundant blessings to you and yours!! God Bless you soooo much. Hope you are enjoying your time! I know you are. From one bride to another, God keep you, bless you, increase you, Rhonda
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8/10/2008 9:27 am |
Nice to read again about your "conviction" my dear sister! Do you remember my post: "Sealed by the Holy Spirit? Lots of blessings to you and all your family!! ... and to Marilyn too, of course!! ... and to our "whole family"... From one bride to another, God keep you, bless you, increase you, Rhonda
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8/10/2008 9:32 am |
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. You can ignore the Holy Spirit to the point you never feel convicted of anything, I know believers and non believers alike who seem to be totally dead to the promptings of the Holy Spirit across the board. What are they missing? What more might they miss? . . Continue to be faithful, deliverance is near, obedience must be seen, be an unconditional blessing as He continues to bless you. This time is short, serve Him well, serving all. Without exception. Know? Yes? ? .
Meow ? . You always make such good points. So true. These promptings can be ignored and then it seems it is easier to ignore. I have been there. I have ignored God. Least I didn't get swallowed by a whale! God Bless you so much! From one bride to another, God keep you, bless you, increase you, Rhonda
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8/10/2008 9:45 am |
I was just listening to the newsboys song "spirit thing" a bit before reading this. "It's just a spirit thing, it's just a holy nudge, it's like a circuit judge in the brain. It's just a spirit thing, it's here to guard my heart, it's just a little hard to explain" Like explaining love-not easy to do, but undeniably powerful! Sometimes there will not be exact scriptures that speak to things. There is the natural man with (hopefully) a conscience-and there is the born again believer. We stay on the narrow path by way of Holy Spirit direction and the word of God. Always love to see you here! From one bride to another, God keep you, bless you, increase you, Rhonda
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8/10/2008 9:47 am |
Wonderful post Rhonda. Thank God for sending the gift of the indwelling Holy Spirit for mankind, if they will just accept the gift. If the world would only desire to have the indwelling Holy Spirit and then listen for the guidance the spirit gives them for all in life. Thanks, Rhonda and Blessings to you. Amen! Praise God! I think of you often and ask blessings on all you do. From one bride to another, God keep you, bless you, increase you, Rhonda
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8/10/2008 9:49 am |
We may call it by different names - conviction, nudging, guidance, still small voice - I don't care what ya call it, I'm just glad the Lord cares enough about me to direct my ways From one bride to another, God keep you, bless you, increase you, Rhonda
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8/10/2008 9:52 am |
CONVICTION: 1) A formal declaration that someone is guilty of a criminal offence... (VERB: CONVICT) 2) A firmly held belief or opinion... (VERB: CONVINCE) 2a) the quality of showing that one is firmly convinced of what one believes or says... OPINION: a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge... THE RIGHT WORD: When you give your opinion on something , you offer a conclusion or a judgment that, although it may be open to question, seems true and probable to you at the time. A view is an opinion that is affected by your personal feelings or biases, while a sentiment is a more or less settled opinion that may still be colored by emotion. A belief differs from an opinion or a view in that it is not necessarily the creation of the person who holds it; the emphasis here is on the mental acceptance of an idea, a proposition, or a doctrine and on the assurance of its truth. A conviction is a firmly held and unshakable belief whose truth is not doubted, while a persuasion (in this sense) is a strong belief that is unshakable because you want to believe that it's true rather than because there is evidence proving it so. From one bride to another, God keep you, bless you, increase you, Rhonda
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8/10/2008 10:43 am |
Thank you BB. Sometimes it is good to clarify. BTW Love this pic of you. All is well? Hope so. Really do you like the pic, Rhonda? Hahahaa, it was Lisa's idea long ago, otherwise I wouldn't have used it!! See, women have different tastes than men... But if the both of them were willing to cooperate and accept one another they could really do great things together! Everything's fine here Rhonda!
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8/10/2008 3:05 pm |
Yeah, misunderstanding is usually at the bottom of miscommunication and disagreement. Really do you like the pic, Rhonda? Hahahaa, it was Lisa's idea long ago, otherwise I wouldn't have used it!! See, women have different tastes than men... But if the both of them were willing to cooperate and accept one another they could really do great things together! Everything's fine here Rhonda! From one bride to another, God keep you, bless you, increase you, Rhonda
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8/11/2008 2:46 pm |
Hi Rhonda, Yet again I Loved it.You have such powerful posts Sister.Thank you.These are things i need t know. Peace be with you, Wendy   Show me the way Sweet JESUS.Lead and i Will follow.
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8/14/2008 11:29 pm |
CONVICTION: 1) A formal declaration that someone is guilty of a criminal offence... (VERB: CONVICT) 2) A firmly held belief or opinion... (VERB: CONVINCE) 2a) the quality of showing that one is firmly convinced of what one believes or says... OPINION: a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge... THE RIGHT WORD: When you give your opinion on something , you offer a conclusion or a judgment that, although it may be open to question, seems true and probable to you at the time. A view is an opinion that is affected by your personal feelings or biases, while a sentiment is a more or less settled opinion that may still be colored by emotion. A belief differs from an opinion or a view in that it is not necessarily the creation of the person who holds it; the emphasis here is on the mental acceptance of an idea, a proposition, or a doctrine and on the assurance of its truth. A conviction is a firmly held and unshakable belief whose truth is not doubted, while a persuasion (in this sense) is a strong belief that is unshakable because you want to believe that it's true rather than because there is evidence proving it so. Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) - Cite This Source - Share This con-vict Audio Help /v., adj. kenˈvikt; n. ˈkanvikt/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[v., adj. kuhn-vikt; n. kon-vikt] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation -verb (used with object) 1. to prove or declare guilty of an offense, esp. after a legal trial: to convict a prisoner of a felony. 2. to impress with a sense of guilt. -noun 3. a person proved or declared guilty of an offense. 4. a person serving a prison sentence. -adjective 5. Archaic. convicted. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [Origin: 1350-1400; (v.) ME convicten < L convictus ptp. of convincere, equiv. to con- con- + vic- var. s. of vincere to overcome + -tus ptp. suffix (see convince); (n., adj.) ME convict, ptp. of convicten (or directly < L )] -Related forms con-vict-a-ble, con-vict-i-ble, adjective con-vic-tive, adjective con-vic-tive-y, adverb Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) Based on the Random House Unabridged Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2006. Eph 2:10 We are his workmanship (poiema, or poem, or work of art) created in Christ Jesus. God is an artist and you are His masterpiece!
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8/15/2008 12:00 am |
CONVICTION: 1) A formal declaration that someone is guilty of a criminal offence... (VERB: CONVICT) 2) A firmly held belief or opinion... (VERB: CONVINCE) 2a) the quality of showing that one is firmly convinced of what one believes or says... OPINION: a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge... THE RIGHT WORD: When you give your opinion on something , you offer a conclusion or a judgment that, although it may be open to question, seems true and probable to you at the time. A view is an opinion that is affected by your personal feelings or biases, while a sentiment is a more or less settled opinion that may still be colored by emotion. A belief differs from an opinion or a view in that it is not necessarily the creation of the person who holds it; the emphasis here is on the mental acceptance of an idea, a proposition, or a doctrine and on the assurance of its truth. A conviction is a firmly held and unshakable belief whose truth is not doubted, while a persuasion (in this sense) is a strong belief that is unshakable because you want to believe that it's true rather than because there is evidence proving it so. One of the things I strive for is to so sensitive to the Spirit, that when I grieve Him, I know it instantly. Some horse trainers use something they call "neck reining". It is a type of training where the horse is trained to respond just the feel of the rein on his neck. Another good post!! Eph 2:10 We are his workmanship (poiema, or poem, or work of art) created in Christ Jesus. God is an artist and you are His masterpiece!
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8/15/2008 3:56 am |
Rhonda, this is for you. One of the things I strive for is to so sensitive to the Spirit, that when I grieve Him, I know it instantly. Some horse trainers use something they call "neck reining". It is a type of training where the horse is trained to respond just the feel of the rein on his neck. Another good post!! [I'm quoting you on this since it's shorter.] However, it's much, much better to be convinced of the HS (=persuaded of), that to be convicted by Him! Thus according to NT, it's better to profess the Good News (redemption), than the Bad News (damnation). Here's a little extra nuance from my Mac/Oxford: Although it is common to see convince and persuade used interchangeably, there are distinctions in meaning that careful writers and speakers try to preserve, Convince derives from a Latin word meaning 'conquer, overcome.' Persuade derives from a Latin word meaning 'advise, make appealing, sweeten.' One can convince or persuade someone with facts or arguments, but, in general, convincing is limited to the mind, while | persuasion results in action (just as | dissuasion results in nonaction) : | the prime minister convinced the council that delay was pointless; | the senator persuaded her colleagues to pass the legislation. Copyright © 2005 Apple Computer, Inc. That's why one can be CONVINCED OF someone's innocence, but no one can be CONVICTED OF being innocent LOL! - one can only be convicted of being guilty!  _____________________
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8/16/2008 4:52 am |
Amen! This is beautiful affirmation, Rhonda! I am so glad He is patient...He sure needs to be when it comes to this little saint!!  Penelope Captive of Hope 
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8/16/2008 6:06 am |
Amen! This is beautiful affirmation, Rhonda! I am so glad He is patient...He sure needs to be when it comes to this little saint!! From one bride to another, God keep you, bless you, increase you, Rhonda
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8/16/2008 6:13 am |
Hi Rhonda, Yet again I Loved it.You have such powerful posts Sister.Thank you.These are things i need t know. Peace be with you, Wendy From one bride to another, God keep you, bless you, increase you, Rhonda
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8/16/2008 6:15 am |
Rhonda, this is for you. One of the things I strive for is to so sensitive to the Spirit, that when I grieve Him, I know it instantly. Some horse trainers use something they call "neck reining". It is a type of training where the horse is trained to respond just the feel of the rein on his neck. Another good post!! From one bride to another, God keep you, bless you, increase you, Rhonda
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8/23/2008 7:26 pm |
Hey Dennis, The Holy Spirit is not in the unsaved. Not until they receive. I agree with this: "But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness to him: neither can he know the, for they are spiritually discerned." I Cor. 2:14 The Holy Spirit only convicts (convinces) a person of sin who has been born again. A person cannot believe until the see spiritually (John 3:3). Only the Spirit can use the law as a school master to bring one to Christ. The grace God that the Spirit uses on the elect is an irresistible grace which works effectually in God's plan to saves sinners through the righteousness of Christ. The sinner who is given spiritual life is now able to willingly seek God, understand the things of God, believe God, and repent of sin. This is a process that once started, God does not stop. The Spirit does not TRY to save anyone but the Spirit effectually, irresistibly, victoriously, calls the sheep of God to meet their Shepherd by the means of the gospel of grace. An unsaved spiritually dead sinner can only be convicted (convinced) by the law through their own conscience (Romans 2:14-15). The natural man is ignorant of the righteousness of God and as a result he is going about to establish a righteousness of his own (Romans 10:1-4). He has made a covenant with death. At his BEST he is altogether vanity (Psalm 39:5). He has no fear of God before his eyes. They have no ability to believe God or come to Him. They are not willing to do so either. The natural man receives not conviction, nor faith, nor repentance from the Spirit because these are spiritual gifts given to people with spiritual life. The Spirit does not convince, convict, persuade, woo, draw, or call the non elect sinner. If there is any work of the Spirit in the non elect that is effectual it is in the sending "them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie" (II Thes 2:11). Thank you Dennis for stopping by. Blessings to you. Hey, this could be our first argument! LOL. Well, I don't want to argue all the Calvinist stuff as it would take a book to do so, but I saw a certain person here previously take issue with using the word "convict", and thought I'd chime in. Yes, if we mean convict in the sense of found guilty of a crime, it can seem like the word condemn. However, I think that the word "sentence" is closer to the word condemn than convict is. But on to other matters of note. I think that one of the Scriptures in question is where it says the Spirit "convicts/reproves the world of sin, righteousness, and judgment" (Jn. 16: 8 ). Some emphasize the word "world" there. And one person here maybe took a jump of logic and thought that since it said world, then it meant ONLY those who aren't Christians. While that may at times be implied or meant in Scripture, when the word world is used, sometimes it simply means world, including either Christians or non-, or both. (And more, following.) In any case, notice that it does say that He convicts the world, which probably does not mean Christians only. So then the statement "The Holy Spirit only convicts (convinces) a person of sin who has been born again" is probably not correct. (More below.) I take the word world there to potentially include anyone, with probably some emphasis toward non-Christians (vss. 9-11 ), but not necessarily excluding Christians or Christians-to-be (vs. 7 ). Again, sometimes world can mean non-Christian (Jn. 17: 9 ), or unGodly or whatever, as in worldly (Titus 2: 12 ); maybe even Earthly or Earthy but not meaning "worldly" (e.g., Heb. 9: 1; and others ); while at other times I think the word world includes Christians OR non-Christian OR both (e.g., John 3: 16 ); while at other times, it means PLANET! LOL. (E.G., Heb. 1:2; 11: 3.) The context may not always be ultra-clear; so I think it's a Good thing to not use such as a basis for some big doctrine. Another, related verse along those lines: "But if all prophesy, and there come in one that believeth not, or {one} unlearned, he is convinced/convicted of all, he is judged of all". --1Cor. 14: 24 KJV/NASB, ESV, and others. One would think that it is the Holy Spirit, external here to the one who does not believe, Who inspires such prophecy. In any case, something or Someone somehow tells the Christians that they have sinned -- unless one is teaching that Christians cannot sin! Would this be the Christian's own spirit or the Holy Spirit, or both? I would think it could either, or both. Regardless, if a Christian did sin, wouldn't God maybe "say" something at some point? I think so. What that "saying something" is called -- conviction, convincing, the Holy Spirit grieving, rebuking, admonishing, chastening, etc. -- doesn't seem like that big a deal to me unless one is trying to distinguish exactly how He would communicate such with His children, which most people probably aren't trying to do when they say it. Call it what you will, still elohim may INDICATE to a Christian somehow that he or she has sinned, or is about to sin; and as far as I can tell, that's pretty much all that is meant by most people who say they were "convicted" by the Holy Spirit. In 20-some years, that's all I ever meant (whether referring to myself or another ). LOL. © Feel free to come see my Blog. And Enjoy! If you want to meet me or just get to know me. Hallelu-Yah! Praise Yah! wpx1 ©
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8/23/2008 7:31 pm |
Btw, my list of verses for world was not intended to be complete/exhaustive. © Feel free to come see my Blog. And Enjoy! If you want to meet me or just get to know me. Hallelu-Yah! Praise Yah! wpx1 ©
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8/24/2008 4:46 am |
Thank you Gary. Blessing all over you this day.  But now... Let's gird up our loins and kick up our heels... ... whatever it means!! LOL!
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8/24/2008 11:57 am |
Great! I love it! My love to you and Ed. The Cross ( a poem) Lord, keep one hand on my shoulder and one hand over my mouth!
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