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Why Don't We See More Miracles in the Church Today?  

reallysaved
(Jean Sanders)
6/16/2006 12:14 pm

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I think there may be a few reasons why we don't see more miracles in the Church today than we do:

1. People are not willing to pay the price for the anointing. Salvation is free. However, we need to be really surrendered to the Lord continually to be used greatly by Him, I think.

2. People don't care enough about others to see them set free from bondage or healed of their diseases to learn how to get God's power in their lives to do those things for people.

3. We are too wrapped up in our own lives to worry about what God wants us to be doing.

4. We don't understand that God wants to use all of us to minister to others. People tend to think, I believe, that God only uses a select few ministers to do things in His kingdom, not all Christians.

5. We don't have enough faith to believe God for miracles.

Do you agree with these reasons? Can you think of other reasons?

I pray that the Lord will restore His gifts to His church in this country. I pray that He will kick us out of our lukewarmness so that we are willing to do whatever it takes to have His anointing upon our lives. I pray that He will begin this work with me. Amen!
WorshippingOne
663 posts 

6/16/2006 1:43 pm

Jean, I agree with ALL of the things you've listed here. I don't know about you or other who may read this, but my heart cries for people who know just enough about Jesus to get to Heaven, but practically nothing about what it means to walk with Him in victory...let alone WORK with Him in behalf of others.

Personally, I have entered a new season and I am diligently and earnestly asking Him to teach me how to use my faith in behalf of others. My heart cries to see people set free.

I've already shared in other posts and a few comments about my friend, Tammy. Her birthday is next Wednesday, June 21st, and she'll be 32. I met her in Oct., 2002. For the past 23 plus years of her very young life, she has dealth with horrible health issues...from mmigraines, hypoglycemia, and other supposedly "manageable" symptoms to cancer where she almost completely lost her life at age 20. Since then, it's been a living nightmare for her.

It would take too long to go into detail about my relationship with her. But the bottom line is, I believe the Lord brought her into my life for me to pray and stand in the gap for her. She is born again! Thank God for that. And she loves God.

But, bless her heart, in my opinion, she's been "influenced" by well-meaning, but completely wrong religious teachings and such so that she struggles to even know whether or not God WANTS to heal her. Oh...how I have cried for this dear, precious woman. How it hurts my heart to think that she doesn't even know that God WANTS her to be well.

Anyway...a lot has happened and she's not even speaking to me anymore.

BUT GOD....Just like it says in Ephesians 2. I love it when He has other plans!

I'm praying and interceeding for her with specific scriptures from Ephesians and Colossion, plus Psalm 107:20. Night and day I am praying and speaking life over her. And I am DETERMINED to stick with it until I see her completely set free.

No, I'm not some wonderful saint. I just happen to have been given a very special love for this person, and it's in response to a prayer I prayed before I ever met her: "Lord, do in this earth through me ALL you want to do."

I pray the Lord will use this post, Jean, to stir people up to look beyond themselves to people who really do need all of us in the Body of Christ to flow in the grace He gives us...and expect for more and more of His power and His anointing to flow through us. Because the truth is, He loves us SO much, and He wants to do SO much more through us...if we'll only believe and seek His face and be obedient to do what He shows us to do.

It's time for the miracles. It really is! I believe it with all my heart. But it's not for the wimpy or the half-hearted. It's for those of us who are serious...and determined...and willing to roll-up our sleeves and fight the good fight of faith. And I don't know about you (or anyone who read this), but that's me.

Anyone hearing me out there?? (smile)

Brina2006
938 posts 

6/16/2006 2:02 pm

Hi Jean,

I think also some denominations teach that signs and wonders (miracles, deliverance, healings, etc.) went out with the 1st church and died with the original apostles...at least that's what I learned in my Signs and Wonders class (when I was studying through ORU at my church)...

WLIC,
Sabrina

Blessings in His awesome & precious name! - Sabrina

ProdicalSon1963

6/16/2006 2:13 pm

OPINION ALERT! OPINION ALERT! OPINION ALERT! OPINION ALERT!OPINION ALERT!

In my humble opinion when Jesus said "Because you have so little faith. I tell you the truth, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there' and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you" He was talking to the Apostles and it was never meant for the general public.

God testified that Jesus, the apostles, and prophets were speaking His word, through miracles (Mk. 16:20; Heb. 2:1-4). In this way, He confirmed His word (Heb. 2:3).

After God's word was confirmed, the need for miracles no longer existed. Hence, Paul tells us that miracles were temporary, telling us there's a better way to live than with miraculous power (1 Cor. 12:31).

Do miracles still occur? Sure they do, but their not the same as the wham bam miracles Jesus and the Apostles performed.

BeastMster
574 posts 

6/16/2006 3:16 pm

When You get saved....you have all the faith you will ever need. Our life is like a garden. In our Journey God takes us to different sections of the gardens and nurtures our faith for the needs in those areas.

I think a big problem is the basic structure of the church itself. I do not personally believe in a mouthpiece in a group. My mouthpice is the Holy Spirit. Not a man. People have taken gifts and made them into positions. Something I do not believe was ever intended.

Throw all of that in and you have mass imaturity because of leaning on people. I think its a simple answer.

Take some time and research just about any leader. They all are mistaken here and there and some are plain bad about it.

Ken, Jesus told us that we would do greater things than him. There is a reason that it is not happening.

ProdicalSon1963

6/16/2006 4:12 pm

    Quoting BeastMster:
    When You get saved....you have all the faith you will ever need. Our life is like a garden. In our Journey God takes us to different sections of the gardens and nurtures our faith for the needs in those areas.

    I think a big problem is the basic structure of the church itself. I do not personally believe in a mouthpiece in a group. My mouthpice is the Holy Spirit. Not a man. People have taken gifts and made them into positions. Something I do not believe was ever intended.

    Throw all of that in and you have mass imaturity because of leaning on people. I think its a simple answer.

    Take some time and research just about any leader. They all are mistaken here and there and some are plain bad about it.

    Ken, Jesus told us that we would do greater things than him. There is a reason that it is not happening.
Did He tell us or the Apostles? Your more scholarly than me on the subject, so point me to the passages.

By the way, what happened to the Beast! lol

You are so smart and I think you are reaching many more people now. Thank you for caring about the lady with "I'm so lonely" post. I see Him in you more and more!

BeastMster
574 posts 

6/16/2006 4:48 pm

Ken I am like You. I despise liars. I am kind of tired tonight but I will put up more info on the things you asked about before.

Think about this though

In the earluy church they met in homes almost every evening and all the people shared. They prayed together and encouraged each other. people over saw it yes. The more mature shared too. But they were not the dominate Kings we have in the Pulpits today. In those days the scriptures were at a minimum. The early church had no new testament and New Covenant understanding and that formed alot of how peeople acted. Look at the Corinthians and the problems in that church. Same as with the Galatians.

I do not see Churches ran as bussinesses in the original New Covenant Church. Someone made it that way and it was not God. Think about what I shared there and look into the time frame. Times have changed but God has not. The approach has changed but i am not really sure it is what God intended.

WorshippingOne
663 posts 

6/16/2006 5:15 pm

Ken, first, because I'm having to write this and you can't hear me speaking, my voice tone is very soft and non-confrontational. Just wanted to say that up front. (smile)

For whatever this is worth to you or anyone else who questions that the "wham bam" miracles CAN and STILL do happen today, I was reading in Kenneth E. Hagin's Faith Food (daily devotional) a couple of days ago. He told of a man--sorry, can't remember his name and I'm at my office and don't have the book with me--that was an Assembly of God minister. This man and five others with him witnessed another minister (from another denomination) literally speak, "In the name of Jesus," and reach out and pull a purplish cancerous growth off of a woman's face.

He testified that there were three medical doctors in the place who checked her and said that her face was as clear as a baby's. It was an instanteous miracle.

No, I cannot prove any of this. But Kenneth E. Hagin, who has now gone on to be with the Lord, is one of the more well-known ministers of our era as far as his integrity, and to me, his love walk. This man absolutely walked with the Lord and I have NO reason to believe he would make this up.

Here's another testimony from someone I know firsthand. My former pastor, Jeff Spencer, a rather radical and "out there" kind of guy--hey, he even looks like you and kinda acts like you in a way, Ken!)-- told of when he was ministering in a very back woods kind of place in the hills of West Virginia. While there, a woman came to the meetings he was having and told him she was going the next day to the doctor to have a growth removed. He asked her, "Can you feel it right now?" And she said, "Yes! Absolutely" (I guess it was under her blouse or where it would be in appropriate for her to show it to him.)

He did the same thing. He called on the name of Jesus and it disintegrated right on the spot!

I have to admit. When he shared the testimony of this happening, it was difficult for me to fathom it happening. But I know him...well! And no way would he be lying about it.

Miracles DO happen. I received one myself as I've already testified to earlier when God miraculously healed my back. It happened instanteously.

Ken, I'm not jumping on you. I'm just addressing your "argument" whereby you are saying there's no need for miracles now that the Word was confirmed by the early Apostles. In my most humble opinion, my dear brother, there is just as much of a need for miracles today as there ever was...because people are hurting just like they were in the day of the Apostles. In other words, I'll just never buy the argument that the ONLY reason miracles were performed in the early church was so that the New Testament could be written and record them all.

No, I truly believe it is what Jean and BeastMaster and others of us are saying. It's not because the Lord doesn't WANT to perform the miracles or because that age or dispensation has passed away; the failure is on our part. He's never been the problem. It's us! (smile)

saved_for_life
(Donald Dugan)

6/16/2006 5:20 pm

Very interesting that you should bring this topic up. I just sent an e-mail to someone yesterday on this.
I have some friends who do mission work overseas when they get the chance and are very involved in supporting others. Miracles are happening, just not in the U.S.
I think that society has us so brainwashed into thinking that to be a success you have to do this and do that. There is so much about you, that we have a hard time truly surrendering all to God.
Overseas people have nothing, When they find Christ they give him everything and are able to receive miracles.
Makes sense to me. I like to beleive that God still does miracles if we just let Him.
To hear the stories these guys have told me is awesome. People walking 20 miles to go to church, sitting on a dirt floor, knowing that if they profess Christ their family will disown them and doing it anyway. Would we truly suffer in His name. I hope I would

adorable2eyes
(Freida N)
308 posts 

6/16/2006 6:11 pm

Hi reallysaved,

Good question. Good answers.

Freida

Cherish all your happy moments: they make a fine cushion for old age.

StreetsofGold03
415 posts 

6/16/2006 8:40 pm

I agree with all the reasons you stated. I think it also has alot to do with how we view God, who we think God really is. Or I think more appropriate to say who we KNOW God to be. And I think that it also has to do with how we view ourselves in relation to how we view Him.
I want to be in that group that pays the price and shows the world one miracle at a time who my God REALLY is. Oh by faith and His grace I am gonna be one(of many to come.) Stacey

gismo2
1836 posts 

6/16/2006 9:15 pm

Don't we?!!! Actually, I'm very happy to say that there are many miracles happening in the church today!

God bless,
G

“Faith makes a Christian. Life proves a Christian. Trial confirms a Christian. Death crowns a Christian.” Annonymous

joanarlene

6/18/2006 12:13 pm

Hello reallysaved, I agree with everything you said, totally.
What many of us don't realize is that our very existence is to worship God and serve Him to the best of our ability,with the gifts that He has created in us,to fulfill His purpose.
God Bless You,
joanarlenejoanarlene

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