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Do You Believe in Suing Others?
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6/16/2006 11:11 am |
Matthew 5:40 "And if anyone wants to sue you, and take your shirt, let him have your coat also." 'Hearing' what He is saying without Him saying it, I believe He is telling us this thing should not be done. Just my humble opinion.  Elizabeth
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6/16/2006 12:09 pm |
I believe in suing as a last resort. God has also entrusted us to take care of what we have and if in doing that were wronged, I feel a responsible thing to do is seek FAIR compensation for that issue. I'm not talking about suing for millions of dollars in "flake cases" but being reasonable, were still witnesses for Jesus how we do this.
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6/16/2006 2:11 pm |
1 Timothy 1:9-10 (Amplified Bible) states: Knowing and understanding this; that the Law is not enacted for the righteous (the upright and just, who are in right standing with God), but for the lawless and unruly, for the ungodly and sinful, for the irreverent and profane, for those who strike and beat and [even] murder fathers and strike and beat and [even] murder mothers, for man slayers. This scripture says the law is for the lawless. We have a right to bring them before the law because they know not or live by the law of God. However, 1 Corinthians 6:1 (Amplified Bible) states: Does any of you dare, when he has a matter of complaint against another [brother], to go to law before unrighteous men [men neither upright nor right with God, laying it before them] instead of before the saints (the people of God)? This scripture tell us it is wrong for a brother to take another brother to court. Then Jesus tells us in Matthew 18:15-17 how to handle a dispute with our brothers and sisters. Our only trouble is to know who your christian brothers and sisters are!
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6/16/2006 3:19 pm |
While I am not litigious by nature, I do feel that there are times when one has to sue to recover losses, damages, loss of wages and future wages, and possibly future or lifetime medical expenses--especially in medical malpractice cases. While there are many good physicians, I've also seen cases where physicians are GROSSLY negligent in the care and treatment of their patient. The patient ends up paralyzed or the newborn has lifetime brain damage. The same holds true for hospitals. If it involves a settlement of millions of dollars from time to time, so be it. The patient deserves every bit of it.
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6/16/2006 4:36 pm |
PERSONALLY I DO NOT BELIEVE IN TAKING WHAT BELONGS TO SOMEONE ELSE, THEREFORE I HAVE NEVER SUED ANYBODY OR ANY COMPANY. I RESPECT THE FACT THAT PEOPLE WORK HARD AND SMART, TO EARN WHAT THEY HAVE,AND I TOO LIKE TO WORK HARD AND SMART FOR WHAT I HAVE. THE ONLY WAY I WOULD SUE SOMEONE, WOULD BE IF THEIR ACTIONS MADE ME UNABLE TO PROVIDE FOR MYSELF AND MY FAMILY,LIKE IN THE CASE OF AN INJURY. OR IF THEY WERE CONSTANTLY HARASSING ME,FOR WHAT EVER REASON, DONT GET ME WRONG,I AM A TOUGH PERSON,AND I MEAN VERY TOUGH, BUT IN AN EXTREME CASE WERE THE HARASSMENT WAS TOO MUCH,THEN I COULD POSSIBLY SUE SOMEONE.
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6/16/2006 5:12 pm |
I don't think I would sue someone because of all the pain and suffering it would cause me going through the court systems as i couldn't cope with the stress of it all. And not only that, I would like to think I would let God handle what ever the situation was in His own way, in His own time.
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6/16/2006 5:28 pm |
I think it is a matter of conscience. I was in a car accident in 2003 which was not my fault at all. I prayed about it and decided not to sue my insurance company for injuries as God told me that He was going to "take care of me". I decided that as long as the insurance company was going to keep up their end of the bargain, I would not sue. Four months later, I started having a lot of back problems. They paid for a little. After 2 years, I was a mess. Unfortunately, I decided to go too late. The damage had been done both to my back and to my case. I have 3 herniated discs and several bulges which will require me to get chiropractic care for the rest of my life. Further minor damage to my neck may result in paralysis. God kept His promise. Through WAYFM in Ft Lauderdale, God put me in contact with a Christian chiropractor and a Christian attorney. I think it is wrong to sue just for the profit of it, but insurance companies don't always do what they are supposed to do unfortunately. If I don't sue them, I don't get treatment. If I don't get treatment, I can't function. If I can't function, I can't fulfill God's plan for my life. I know in my heart that I did the obedient thing and God is keeping His promise. The amount that we finally settled for will not pay for my treatment for the next 4 years let alone 40. So, words of wisdom learned the hard way......if you get in an auto accident, even if it is a little one, go get checked out. Let the doctor decide. It could make all the difference in the world later on when you need it.
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6/16/2006 6:15 pm |
I believe that the Bible states that Christians should not sue other Christians. We are given solutions to work out problems among ourselves. Those solutions work 100%. You have to be yielded and willing to solve the problem. If the person that has committed the wrong is not willing to solve the problem, we do have the law and I strongly feel we (Christians, included) should turn to the law. Freida Cherish all your happy moments: they make a fine cushion for old age.
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6/17/2006 12:56 am |
We are to go to an arbitrator and let the judge decide our case against another. That is the biblical way.
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 6/17/2006 7:57 pm |
Certain issues between Christians should be dealt with between them ONLY, if possible. And being commanded to seek to do this indicates that with God it will be possible. However, people and situations are not always easy or simple. One verse says, 'There is safety in MANY counselors'. And another says, 'IF any of you lacks Wisdom, you should ask YHWH for it -- DOUBTING NOTHING -- and it will be given, generously, and without making you feel stupid for asking'. (My own partial paraphrase.) James 1: 5. At some point it may involve one or two other IMPARTIAL Christians. And at some point, it could even be brought before the whole congregation. This pattern is stated to be in reference to one brother 'sinning against' another. There are other issues, however, that are NOT sin, per se. They might be accidents or other issues or disputes that are not against Scripture or sinning against the person. These issues may also be dealt with between them only, if possible. But if not, it may be brought before choice people within The Church. The principle that at some point it may involve one or two other IMPARTIAL Christians may or may not be appropriate, as this is not SIN AGAINST but an issue that requires resolution or agreement. Further, bringing such before the whole congregation would most likely NOT be advisable. Attorneys / Lawyers often advise a person in a dispute to discuss it with NO ONE outside dispute or certain circle of affected or potentially individuals. They may advise to tell no one at all. This would be difficult, but it may be advisable, depending on the situation. And as this is not a sin against, and by implication is probably not a CRIMINAL act under consideration, then it does NOT need to be publicized or gossiped about. There is a time to publicize, but that should be done with Good counsel, Faith, Wisdom, by the right voice, and with the right timing. Bringing an issue or dispute before certain choice individuals at an assembly, of course, presumed that there was One Church, one group of leaders, etc., not a myriad of assemblies who may or may not be impartial. Agreeing on a Christian arbitrator or arbitrators might be difficult. Follow the Spirit here, as you don't want the wrong persons to be making the decisions! Paul says that instead of going in front of unbelievers, and making Christians -- thus Christianity and Christ -- look bad or unLoving or unbrotherly toward one another, the person who is 'defrauded' could choose instead to just suffer it! Then he makes it clear that it appears foolish or inept that there would be no Christians among them who were able to decide in a dispute! and would look bad if they instead turned to non-Christian judges to decide! Doing that, therefore, is strongly advised against -- for His Name's sake. One verse says that if there is a dispute between you and someone, while you're on the way (maybe even walking and talking), YOU are to pursue peace with this person, and REALLY try to resolve it OUT of court or out of another's hands. A reason? It is very possible that the one judging might decide that it is YOU who was or is in the wrong (whether true or not), and you might end up in jail or prison or heavily fined yourself! This clearly means Don't be naive, assuming that the justice system will work this time, and will be ruled in your favor--even if advised by an attorney that it will. (MANY times they are wrong.) Don't put your faith in the justice system, or people in this way. And cautiously pursue a right course of action as led to by YHWH, not by supposed 'righteous indignation'. All the ways of people may be right in their own sight, but YHWH searches the hearts and minds! Further, while dispute resolution, or even suing, IS Scriptural in certain cases, where it APPEARS to NOT be wise or permitted, there may still be exceptions -- like some person trying DELIBERATELY to take advantage of Christians who won't sue! And this does occur. YHWH knows who they are, and would very likely want to reveal such a wicked plot! (And protect others too.) These people need to be taught a lesson by YHWH, not by us -- and maybe in front of all -- and may be made to lose in a resolution or suit. Suing is an important part of the justice system, as long as it's not used too quickly, at the wrong times, overused, or abused. Wow. That's a lot. But it's not unclear or muddy, mostly, which course of action to take. Though people WILL need Wisdom, if they don't already have it. AND, not only past Wisdom from YHWH, but present, for He COULD ask one or both to make personal or organizational sacrifices in the situation. To obey is better than sacrifice. Don't be a false martyr, or just put yourself or your constituents down. Do consider others as 'more important' / 'better' than yourselves (whichever translation makes more sense). Do pursue peace with all, as much as it is within your 'power' / 'ability'. Do LOVE your brother or sister fervently, with a pure heart, a Good, clear conscience, and a sincere Faith. And whatever you do, do it in Messiah's Name for the Glory of the Father YHWH. Walk by Faith. And, Walk in the Spirit. HalleluYah! Praise Yah! (Posted without rereading.) © Embarking on a new journey If you want to get to know me, or my Blog.  wpx1 ©
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6/17/2006 8:13 pm |
Matthew 5:40 above is an interesting verse, but it is more of How to pursue peace when someone thinks they have a reason to come after you. And though I can see how it seems that He's saying not to sue, it really is not; it really says nothing about what you should do in the case where you could be suing another, because that's not the direction or situation it is addressing. Verses 21-26 deal with the attitudes we are and are NOT to have toward one another, and with when a 'brother has something against you'. You are commanded to RECONCILE -- guilty or not -- then go do your Spiritual thing toward YHWH that you were going to do. We are not allowed to let our brother hold a grudge without doing what we can to pursue Peace -- even Jesus/Iesou/Yahshua -- in the situation. If you right now KNOW a Christian (or possibly even a family member or relative or... pray about those) who 'has something against you', right or wrong, pray, be led, and then RECONCILE! THIS is how Peace is made. Peace does not just come on its own, or by dropping matters, and hoping that it will blow off, it comes by someone reconciling -- people doing it within themselves, and people doing it with people who have something against them. Those who have something against you may be in the wrong, but they probably don't think so. You don't think THEY will be the ones to change their minds, and come to you, do you?!? Reconcile -- it is part of your calling to Love. 'Pursue Peace with all, and Holiness, without which NO ONE will see the LORD.' Hebrews 12:14 © Embarking on a new journey If you want to get to know me, or my Blog. wpx1 ©
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